On 23/04/2020 8:07 pm, Big Bad Bob wrote:
> On 2020-04-05 14:49, mit...@NYU.com wrote:
>> It's Pascal's Wager, not Pachal's Wager, and it is nothing more than
>> saying it's better to err on the side of caution. Big whoop
>
> saved me the trouble of figuring out what that meant, thanks.
>
> Thing is, nations have done that with response to COVID-19 also, and
> MILLIONS LOST THEIR JOBS. Whereas, Sweden of all places, didn't do a
> "shut down" of ANY kind, and they're doing just fine...
**If you don't care that they've managed to dispose of a whole lot of
humans in the process. Facts are more prosaic in the light of day.
Sweden has managed to kill more of their citizens than their neighbours
who did lock down and their economy has done worse.
Then, of course, we have Australia and New Zealand. The deaths in both
nations has been extremely low and both nations are now running more or
less normally.
>
> So "err on the side of caution" is something BUREAUCRATS and "the
> unaffected" LOVE to foist upon THE REST OF US.
>
> I'd rather make my OWN choice thanks, and NOT have "some egghead" MAKE
> IT FOR ME.
**And what about the old an immuno-compramised? How about the medical
professionals? Should they die, just because you view COVID-19 a small
inconvenience? According to one source, that's 1,700 nurses in the US:
https://www.fiercehealthcare.com/practices/report-how-many-u-s-healthcare-workers-have-died-from-covid-19-contracted-job
>
>
> I have PERSONALLY been saying all along, and I *KNOW* I am right, that
> COVID-19 is more like a BAD COLD or BAD INFLUENZA, and we do NOT shut
> down for INFLUENZA.
**Except that COVID-19:
* Is MUCH more transmissable.
* Is NOT influenza.
* Has medium term (3 ~ 6 months) health impacts on some, otherwise
healthy, people that prevent them from contributing to society.
* Has unknown long term health effects on every sufferer.
Additionally, since COVID-19 restrictions were put in place in
Australia, the deaths from the annual influenza strains has fallen
dramatically. Win-win.
Additionally I'm sure I had it back in the
> December/January time frame when a co-worker came back from China and
> then had to go home sick with fever and cough, etc.. I had mild
> symptoms, a light fever, twice in fact (a week or so apart), and my
> adult kid had similar symptoms at about the same point.
**Go and find out. You may still have antibodies in your system which
can be detected.
>
> Studies from Standard suggest [and I believe it's VERY accurate] that
> the case rate of COVID-19 is 50 to 85 times *HIGHER* than is being
> reported. This basically mean that the demoniator of the calculation
> that determines the death rate is 50 to 85 times BIGGER. It also
> suggests California has some level of herd immunity ALREADY.
**Since there has been several cases of people acquiring COVID-19
multiple times, so-called herd immunity maybe a myth.
>
> And yet, here we are... "erring on the side of caution". OVER-caution.
> And MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR JOBS.
**A job is not much good if you're dead. It's really not that difficult.
Lock down hard for a few weeks = COVID-19 is gone. Australia. New
Zealand, Taiwan, etc have done it and their economies are rapidly
getting back into action. The US, the UK and others are suffering with a
medical system that is near collapse and they are running out of places
to bury their dead.