Another WE Asian cock in American hiney
Bret Ludwig
Item number: 6554473240
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Bidding has ended for this item at US $1,155.78.
Winning bid: US $1,155.78
Ended: Aug-21-05 07:58:46 PDT
Start time: Aug-18-05 07:58:46 PDT
History: 5 bids (US $799.00 starting bid)
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This is a 40's? Western Electric 618B (not sure of the difference from
the 618C). It tested okay with no "opens". This was from a working
23C Unit and it looks great too....take a close look are those
decals!!!! SEE ALL MY OTHER WESTERN ELECTRIC STUFF UP FOR AUCTION!!!!
S/H is $12 in USA and $19 to Canada....$34 insured air overseas. I
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Phil Witt
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I looked but I don't see any problem with this auction. Could you
elaborate?
Atsunori Tamagawa
>
> I looked but I don't see any problem with this auction.
Right, the guy wanted to pay that much. But why that small
input transformer can go that much is a mistery for me.
I found this shop in my home country selling a pair of 618B
transformer for a shocking value of 550,000yen($4,500 USD).
http://www.eifl.co.jp/index/transformer/stepuptrans.html
So I guess it is not so unreasonable that just one piece of
618B would go around $1,000. I mean, you can find a customer.
By the way, I occasionally wind small transformers myself.
But I always wanted to put them in cases like 618B just for
appearance. How do they make that cylindorical outer case
with the rounded edge at the top, which somehow gives me
misteriously luxury/cool/yet-wild feelings?
Atsunori
Andre
> Phil Witt wrote:
>
>>I looked but I don't see any problem with this auction.
%><
>
> By the way, I occasionally wind small transformers myself.
> But I always wanted to put them in cases like 618B just for
> appearance. How do they make that cylindorical outer case
> with the rounded edge at the top, which somehow gives me
> misteriously luxury/cool/yet-wild feelings?
>
> Atsunori
>
Take a look at this company.
http://www.haufe-uebertrager.de/html/metallbearbeitung.html
Many transformer manufactorers can do this but not all are
willing to sell the metalwork only.
Andre
Bret Ludwig
> >
> > By the way, I occasionally wind small transformers myself.
> > But I always wanted to put them in cases like 618B just for
> > appearance. How do they make that cylindorical outer case
> > with the rounded edge at the top, which somehow gives me
> > misteriously luxury/cool/yet-wild feelings?
> >
> > Atsunori
> >
>
> Take a look at this company.
> http://www.haufe-uebertrager.de/html/metallbearbeitung.html
>
> Many transformer manufactorers can do this but not all are
> willing to sell the metalwork only.
Most xfmr manufacturers bought cans and endbells from metalwork
suppliers, either from catalog stock or to the customer's (the xfmr
winder's) specs. WE was an exception in that they were not a normal
commercial manufacturer-they were in effect a quasi-state operation,
insamuch as WE was sole supplier to the Bell System, which by arbitrary
government fiat was sole supplier of phone service from the 1890's to
1984 in most of the United States.
These WE products are not sonically desirable for hiigh fidelity
use-the bandwidth of these transformers is less than the customary
hi-fi band, and MOST WE transformers are not particularly
electronically well designed. They were relatively well ruggedizrd and
environmentally protected vis-a-vis commercial products.
Disingenuous, and frankly dishonest in some cases, transformer vendors
and old gear whores have spread an enormous amount of misinformation
and disinformation regarding WE audio in the United States. Japanese
buyers are interested in it because of prestiege and status, which are
associated with its scarcity and the relationship of WE quality guru
W.Edwards Deming to Japanese industry. As with Mcintosh, most Japanese
buyers of this stuff don't listen to it much if at all.
I don't object to the Japanese buying this stuff, but I feel strongly
that Americans should receive the full value for it.
To answer the question of where to get transformer cans, a number of
vendors still exist and can be found in EEM or Thomas Register in the
US. The really hardcore DIYer could learn to sink dies-it can be
learned from books, retired doctors do more difficult metal work every
day as seen in modeler and home shop machinist magazines-buy a 50 ton
hydraulic press, and crank a few out. Probably beats watching this
year's crop of dismal remake movies.