Allied Radio Corporation
KJR
question/inquiry to:
Moved into a home recently which contained a 1960's equivalent of today's
rack system inside a massive, custom-built cabinet. Previous owner left
behind, inside this cabinet two 15 inch three-way speakers, with the name
plate inscribed as below:
15IN-16Ohm-50Watt-3 Way
KN615-HC HiFi Speaker
A Product of Allied Radio Corporation
Chicago, IL
I looked for a good hour on several search engines looking for "Allied Radio
Corporation". Came up empty handed.
Anyone know if Allied was bought by someone else? How can I obtain the
original specs for these speakers? Thanks for your help.
Kevin
wb
still an Allied Electronics though I don't think they ever manufactured
anything.
"KJR" <kja...@interactive.net> wrote in message
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Jerry
components and equipment. The equipment ranged from amateur radio gear to
stereo systems to test instruments. They also had a brand of their own: Knight
Kit which also included ham gear, stereo, and other stuff that could be bought
assembled or in kit form. I'm not sure, but over the years and through various
mergers what was Allied Radio is now Allied Electronics. You will probably need
to open the cabinet to determine what company made the drivers.
Jerry
Dave Platt
wb <wbutz@hotmail dot com> wrote:
>Radio Shack used to be "Allied Radio Shack". Check their archives. There is
>still an Allied Electronics though I don't think they ever manufactured
>anything.
I do remember Allied, from back in the mid-1960s. Allied, and a
competing company called Lafayette sold electronics components and
test equipment, audio stuff, ham-radio, TV, etc. direct to the
consumer, through both mail-order and retail stores. Both of these
companies were well-known when Radio Shack was just barely getting
started in retail.
Both are gone now. As WB correctly notes, Allied was bought up by
Radio Shack, and as far as I know nothing of it remains as a separate
company identity. Lafayette just went under, as far as I know - I
don't know of any heritage it has these days.
You might possibly find a ham-radio or other electronics enthusiast
who still has a copy of an old Allied catalog floating around, with
more specs than what you find on the plate. If you want really
details specs, you're probably going to have to go the disassemble /
measure / test route, and derive your own.
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Kalman Rubinson
> 15IN-16Ohm-50Watt-3 Way
> KN615-HC HiFi Speaker
> A Product of Allied Radio Corporation
> Chicago, IL
I have several old Allied Radio catalogs. I'll check them in the morning.
Kal
Damon Hill
<socags5...@corp.supernews.com>:
>In article <8m1gpr$m9v$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
>wb <wbutz@hotmail dot com> wrote:
>
>>Radio Shack used to be "Allied Radio Shack". Check their archives.
>>There is still an Allied Electronics though I don't think they ever
>>manufactured anything.
I have a year 2000 Allied Electronics catalog sitting here next to me,
for electronics parts, but they got out of the kit business many years
ago. Allied/Knight, Heathkit, Dynaco, Eico, Lafayette, and others. The
high point of the year for me was saving up enough money to go to the
Heathkit store in Atlanta and take home a new piece of test equipment or
audio gear to build.
Them was the days...
--Damon, who turned 50 the other day and wonders where the years went
Kalman Rubinson
> I apologize in advance if this is the wrong newsgroup to pose this
> question/inquiry to:
> Moved into a home recently which contained a 1960's equivalent of today's
> rack system inside a massive, custom-built cabinet. Previous owner left
> behind, inside this cabinet two 15 inch three-way speakers, with the name
> plate inscribed as below:
> 15IN-16Ohm-50Watt-3 Way
> KN615-HC HiFi Speaker
> A Product of Allied Radio Corporation
> Chicago, IL
My Allied catalogs only go back through the 70's so I could not find this.
Memory says that it was one of the Knight systems (KN?) which were pretty
decent for their time. If the cone surrounds are intact, they may be
quite serviceable.
Kal
Robert Severin
catalog:
Free-Air rsonance Frequecy: 25 cps. Frequency response: 30 to 20,000 cps.
Crossover frequency: Mechanical at 2000 cps; Electrical at 3500 cps. Power
capacity: 50 watts (can be used with stereo amplifiers with output of up to
80 watts per channel.) Magnet weight: woofer, over 4 1/2 lbs; tweeter, 6.8
oz. Magnet material: Ring type ceramic. Flux density: 14.500 gauss. Voice
coil (Edgewound), Woofer, 2 1/2" copper-ribbon; tweeter: 1"
aluminum-ribbon. Rated EIA sensitivity: 53db. Nominal impedance: 16 phms.
Speaker mounting depth: 8 1/4". Weight (Actual) 28 lbs
Price: $69.95
It was Allied's finest 15" speaker.
This is probably more than you want but hope it helps.
Conrad Field
KJR wrote:
> I apologize in advance if this is the wrong newsgroup to pose this
> question/inquiry to:
>
> Moved into a home recently which contained a 1960's equivalent of today's
> rack system inside a massive, custom-built cabinet. Previous owner left
> behind, inside this cabinet two 15 inch three-way speakers, with the name
> plate inscribed as below:
>
> 15IN-16Ohm-50Watt-3 Way
> KN615-HC HiFi Speaker
> A Product of Allied Radio Corporation
> Chicago, IL
>
Gregory T. Buchar
memory serves me, I believe Allied merged with Radio Shack in the early 70's.
That's why the name "Allied Radio Shack". Shortly after, Tandy bought Allied
Radio Shack and dropped the Allied name. I believe Tandy is still the owner of
Radio Shack.
The Allied Electronics, that exists today might be related to Allied Radio
of past. However, they specialize in electronic components, such as I.C's,
resistors and capacitors.
All this is well and good. However, I don't really have an answer to your
question about the speaker specs.
GTB
Angelo Campanella
Try to find ANY such data on today's speakers and cabinets. All you
find is cost and sum-total amp power they can tolerate before they
blow up. Talk about 34 years of tech progress!!!
Ang. C.
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Robert Severin wrote in message ...
>Here are the specs on the Allied KN-615HC speaker taken from their
1966
>catalog:
>Free-Air resonance Frequency: 25 cps. Frequency response: 30 to
20,000 cps.
>Crossover frequency: Mechanical at 2000 cps; Electrical at 3500 cps.
Power
>capacity: 50 watts (can be used with stereo amplifiers with output of
up to
>80 watts per channel.) Magnet weight: woofer, over 4 1/2 lbs;
tweeter, 6.8
>oz. Magnet material: Ring type ceramic. Flux density: 14.500 gauss.
Voice
>coil (Edgewound), Woofer, 2 1/2" copper-ribbon; tweeter: 1"
>aluminum-ribbon. Rated EIA sensitivity: 53db. Nominal impedance: 16
ohms.
Bob Olhsson
<kja...@interactive.net> wrote:
>How can I obtain the
>original specs for these speakers?
The KN615-HC is described in Allied Radio's 1966 catalog as "our finest
15 inch speaker." Price was $69.95
Looks like it was a custom-branded Electro-Voice.
Free air resonance 25 cps.
Freq. resp: 20 to 20,000 cps. (right...)
Crossovers: Mechanical: 2000cps (whizzer cone), Electrical: 3500cps
Magnet weights: woofer over 4.5 lbs. Tweeter 6.8 oz.
Magnet type: ring-type ceramic
Flux density: 14,500 gauss
Voice coils:
Woofer: 2.5" copper ribbon
Tweeter: 1" aluminum ribbon
Rated EIA sensitivity: 53 dB.
Nominal impedance: 16 Ohms
Mounting depth 8.25"
Weight (actual) 28 lbs.
I'm not sure how useful these specs. are but it makes interesting
reading!
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George Beshara
The Knight KN615 HC is also listed in my 1964 Allied Radio catalog. The
specifications listed on the page are as follows:
Free-Air Resonant Frequency: 25 cps
Overall Frequency Response: 25 to 19,000 cps
Crossover Frequencies: Mechanical, 2000 cps. Electrical, 3500cps.
Power Capacity: 50 watts (may be used with stereo amplifiers of up to 80
watts per channel.
Magnet Weight: Woofer, 4-lb, 9-oz. Tweeter, 6.8 oz.
Magnet Material: high-quality ceramic.
Flux Density: 14,500 gauss.
Voice Coil: Woofer, 2 1/2" edgewound copper ribbon. Tweeter, 1" edgewound
aluminum ribbon.
Rated EIA Sensitivity: 53 db.
Rated Impedance: 16 ohms.
Speaker Mounting Depth: 9 1/8".
Allied also says "KNIGHT'S MOST POPULAR 15" HI-FI SPEAKER- NOW SELLING FOR
$20 LESS THAN LAST YEAR"
KJR wrote:
>
>
> I apologize in advance if this is the wrong newsgroup to pose this
> question/inquiry to:
>
> Moved into a home recently which contained a 1960's equivalent of
today's
> rack system inside a massive, custom-built cabinet. Previous owner left
> behind, inside this cabinet two 15 inch three-way speakers, with the name
> plate inscribed as below:
>
> 15IN-16Ohm-50Watt-3 Way
> KN615-HC HiFi Speaker
> A Product of Allied Radio Corporation
> Chicago, IL
>
> I looked for a good hour on several search engines looking for "Allied
Radio
> Corporation". Came up empty handed.
>
> Anyone know if Allied was bought by someone else? How can I obtain the
> original specs for these speakers? Thanks for your help.
>
> Kevin
>
>
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Dave Crooks
Allied Radio and it's distribution chain, Allied Radio Shack
were bought out by the Tandy Leather Company, and are now your
neighbourhood Radio Shack....
Good luck on getting an original schematic out of them though!
Dave
> KJR wrote:
> >
> >
> > I apologize in advance if this is the wrong newsgroup to pose this
> > question/inquiry to:
> >
> > Moved into a home recently which contained a 1960's equivalent of
> today's
> > rack system inside a massive, custom-built cabinet. Previous owner left
> > behind, inside this cabinet two 15 inch three-way speakers, with the name
> > plate inscribed as below:
> >
> > 15IN-16Ohm-50Watt-3 Way
> > KN615-HC HiFi Speaker
> > A Product of Allied Radio Corporation
> > Chicago, IL
> >
> > I looked for a good hour on several search engines looking for "Allied
> Radio
> > Corporation". Came up empty handed.
> >
> > Anyone know if Allied was bought by someone else? How can I obtain the
> > original specs for these speakers? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Kevin
>
Richard H. Hollis
Allied Radio Corporation also turned into Allied Electronics. They may
have the info you are looking for if Radio Shack does not.
Rich Hollis
Keith A. Lahteine
I don't think what you have is, worth very much, particularly . About the only real value may be to electronics historians or the, "Smithsonian" . Ha ha !
At this time, early sixties, both, "Radio Shack" and, possibly, "Allied", sold name brand as well as their own brand equipment . I can't recall, "Allied", having any innovative equipment back then . At the time, "Radio Shack", seems to have been a little wiser investing and expanding their market .
I can recall there being a large, "Radio Shack", across from, "B-U", in Boston where, amongst other things, I can remember buying two of the original, "A R", turntables along with various cartridges .
Boy, talk about memories !
Sincerely : Keith A. Lahteine
P.S. The competition of, "Allied", against, "Radio Shack", is similar to, "Montgomery Ward", against, "Sears" .
George Beshara wrote:
Kevin,
The Knight KN615 HC is also listed in my 1964 Allied Radio catalog. The
specifications listed on the page are as follows:
Free-Air Resonant Frequency: 25 cps
Overall Frequency Response: 25 to 19,000 cps
Crossover Frequencies: Mechanical, 2000 cps. Electrical, 3500cps.
Power Capacity: 50 watts (may be used with stereo amplifiers of up to 80
watts per channel.
Magnet Weight: Woofer, 4-lb, 9-oz. Tweeter, 6.8 oz.
Magnet Material: high-quality ceramic.
Flux Density: 14,500 gauss.
Voice Coil: Woofer, 2 1/2" edgewound copper ribbon. Tweeter, 1" edgewound
aluminum ribbon.
Rated EIA Sensitivity: 53 db.
Rated Impedance: 16 ohms.
Speaker Mounting Depth: 9 1/8".
Allied also says "KNIGHT'S MOST POPULAR 15" HI-FI SPEAKER- NOW SELLING FOR
$20 LESS THAN LAST YEAR"
KJR wrote:
>
>
> I apologize in advance if this is the wrong newsgroup to pose this
> question/inquiry to:
>
> Moved into a home recently which contained a 1960's equivalent of
today's
> rack system inside a massive, custom-built cabinet. Previous owner left
> behind, inside this cabinet two 15 inch three-way speakers, with the name
> plate inscribed as below:
>
> 15IN-16Ohm-50Watt-3 Way
> KN615-HC HiFi Speaker
> A Product of Allied Radio Corporation
> Chicago, IL
>
> I looked for a good hour on several search engines looking for "Allied
Radio
> Corporation". Came up empty handed.
>
> Anyone know if Allied was bought by someone else? How can I obtain the
> original specs for these speakers? Thanks for your help.
>
> Kevin
>
>
--
Arny Krueger
"Keith A. Lahteine" <klah...@audiobox.com> wrote in message
news:3A0ACF24...@audiobox.com...
> At this time, early sixties, both, "Radio Shack" and, possibly,
"Allied",
> sold name brand as well as their own brand equipment . I can't
recall,
> "Allied", having any innovative equipment back then .
I guess this hangs on what you think "innovative" means.
Both were early adopters in the CB and SS audio crazes. Allied's
"Knight Kits" covered a broad line of ham, test, and audio equipment.
They were roughly model-for-model competitive with Heathkits which
was a stand-alone business.
Allied generally had a broader line of house brand products than RS
in the early days.
Allied was first with house brand products since they went back to
the late 40's or early 50's as I recall. Radio Shack as I recall
started out as a surplus house in Boston, and moved to manufacturer
closeouts and imports. They were smaller players than Allied until
the late 50's or early 60's.
Tandy bought Radio Shack, pumped money in big time, and took
advantage of the franchising craze.
>At the time, "Radio Shack", seems to have been a little wiser
investing and expanding their market.
They clearly used franchising to expand the number of stores far more
rapidly. At one point I recollect that Allied had 3 stores while RS
already had 100's. But the 3 Allied stores were broad-line stores
while the RS stores were smaller and had a far narrower selection. Of
course this was not the modern way to do things!
.
> I can recall there being a large, "Radio Shack", across from,
"B-U", in
> Boston where, amongst other things, I can remember buying two of
the original,
> "A R", turntables along with various cartridges .
I bought my first AR turntable from the Lafayette Radio Associate
Store where I worked at the time. I had a "hard time" choosing
between the AR TT and the Garrard AT-6 which were both new at the
time and would have cost me about the same. This was among the first
AR TT's in town and had two motors, if you remember that far back.
Richard Wagner -Dagwood-
electronics web site. Send me the model numbers of units and I will see if I
have any info on them, as I have alot of schematics around here Sams photofacts
and tons of other stuff includimg some old allied info.
Richard
"Tigers Older brother DAG"
Bob Hendrickson & Patty Hill
These speakers were made by Electrovoice and they may still be able to
support them. I think EV is now part of Harmon/JBL family and their website
covers EV. I recently obtained a T-350 VC and they said they were still
operating their recone shop at the original EV Cecil St address in Buchannan
MI. I have had a pair of these Knight 615 HC in use since 1964 when I
bought them for $59 each. Had them re-coned as 8 ohms after I roasted one in
the 80s. These things have a very high efficiency which will make them seem
to be low in bass output. They were engineered in the tube era when a 50 W
amp was monster power. They were the EV15TRX which was discontinued not all
that long ago, but more or less survives in the EV speaker line as the Force
15. The T35 tweeters are very easily blown. I upgraded to the midrange horn
and T350 tweeter in the 70's. Just built an 18 db xover for mid-tweet cross
and pulled out the STR protector relays.
Best investment I ever made.
bh
"Richard Wagner -Dagwood-" <ruin...@aol.commenospam> wrote in message
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Arny Krueger
"Bob Hendrickson & Patty Hill" <henh...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in
message news:qYVX5.11858$Ia1.2...@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...
> Guys,
>
> These speakers were made by Electrovoice and they may still be able
to
> support them. I think EV is now part of Harmon/JBL family and their
website
> covers EV.
Telex bought out EV, not Harman
Electro-Voice is a division of Telex Communications, Inc.
9600 Aldrich Avenue South,
Minneapolis, MN 55420
Telex brand list:
http://www.telex.com/nav/srchbrand.htm
EV web site: http://www.electrovoice.com/
selenaf...@gmail.com
Bob F
> I came across a check from the company for thirty one cents is it worth anything now do you no or know how I can find out
>
and it bounces.