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Why we hate Peavey- the real reason

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Lyle Caldwell

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Nov 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/13/99
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The logos. The ugliest logos in existance. See, you can't overlook this
important stuff.

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Lyle Caldwell

Psionic Music
Composer, Producer, Arranger
cald...@bellsouth.net

"Gimme some money" - David St. Hubbins

Miklin Halstead

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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Lyle Caldwell wrote:

> The logos. The ugliest logos in existance. See, you can't overlook this
> important stuff.
>

Yeah, but they're a great backup weapon in a bar fight. Probably why Peavey
does relatively well in country music.

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David Light

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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On Sat, 13 Nov 1999 16:50:52 -0600, "Lyle Caldwell"
<cald...@bellsouth.net> wrote:

>The logos. The ugliest logos in existance. See, you can't overlook this
>important stuff.

I think what turned me off to peavey the most was the first time I
took one of their guitar amps apart to work on it. I removed the 4
screws from the front and back to slide the chassis out of the box.
Instead of finding a chassis to slide out the front and back simply
fell onto the table. All the electronics mounted to the front and
back with a cluster of wires running between wood screwed into a
chipboard box.
I hear they do things better now, but...

Chris G.

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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I just wanted to add that I've been using a Peavey Stereo Chorus 212 amp
(solidstate stereo amp with digital reverb, delay, and chorus) for some time
now before which it was used by the guitarist in one of my old bands for
many years.
That amp has been through hell and back! It has had all manners of
beverages spilled on it, has been subjected to ENORMOUS volume levels where
the speakers appeared ready to fly out (I remember that guitarist attempting
to use it as a bass amp on one occasion) and has been thrown around in
various cars, vans, pickup trucks, down a flight of rickety steps in back of
a club, and in general has gotten the hell beaten out of it. The result: It
works perfectly except for the piece of shit footswitch and one broken knob
although the shaft is still turnable. The cabinet covering is also
extremely tough with no tears. It only has stains from where my Chihuahua
pissed on it.

It also is one of the best sounding solid state amps for clean sounds in my
opinion and I've seen quite a few highly talented blues, country, and rock
musicians playing out of this same model of amp over the years with
excellent stage sounds. The distortion is that ol' 80's super-sat
distortion which also I think is pretty unique sounding and good for that
80's metal sound, or with chorus added, for a unique processed growling
sorta sound like what is heard on most of the songs on the "Bloody Kisses"
Type-O-Negative album.

But on the other hand you also get alot of horror stories about Peavey gear.
It seems like their stuff is kinda hit and miss. I seem to see around a
50/50 ratio of horror stories and "built like a rock" stories when it comes
to Peavey gear.
The same thing with Crate equipment.
I haven't used their older stuff, but so far from what I've used and from
what several friends use, their stuff seems to be about as reliable as any
other similar priced equipment. As in most things, you get what you pay
for. All in all I find Peavey equipment usually to be a fairly good
bargain for the budget minded musician. A few items like their "Classic"
series of guitar tube amps are in my opinion EXCELLENT bargains!

Chris G.


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VelcroSky

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Nov 14, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/14/99
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I've had a Peavey Delta Blues amp for a little over a year now. I love the
sound of it. The clean channel anyways, I rely on other processing for my
distortion. The main problem I have found, is that there is nothing protecting
the tubes in the back...found this the hard way when during transport I managed
to smash all of them. there goes a fast 100 bucks


Robert Schmitt
"What's this button do?"

Joe Egan

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Nov 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/15/99
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>Not just the logos, ugly design often seems to be a Peavey feature.
>Their guitars were actually pretty good but I couldn't stand to look
>at (or own) one.

Did you ever see their Drums??!!

Like many things Peavey, the design was innovative, but had all the aesthetic
appeal of a Howler monkey's distended red anus. Ahh, well... diff'rent strokes
for diff'rent folks.


Joe Egan
Eclipse Recording
Hinesburg, VT

Kevin G Tracy

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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You got that right! I like Peavey gear for what it is and the price but usual
remove that Butt ugly logo. I saw a band in a Hoboken club last week use a
Peavey guitar head
that had A backlit glowing ugly Peavey logo on front! YUCK!

Kevin Tracy

Lyle Caldwell wrote:

> The logos. The ugliest logos in existance. See, you can't overlook this
> important stuff.
>

Carlo Hoskins

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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>I like Peavey gear for what it is and the price but usual
>remove that Butt ugly logo.

The first thing that went when I got my Classic 30 was the emblem. The second
thing to go was that shitty-sounding speaker. Put in a 25W Celestion
Greenback, and now I have a righteous amp.

Don't be afraid,

Carlo Hoskins
I'd rather be recording.

Phil Cibley

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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> > The logos. The ugliest logos in existance.
Obviously you haven't seen a Tampa Bay Devil Rays uniform!
Phil Cibley

Cliff Cunningham

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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"Chris G." <chri...@txdirect.net> wrote:
> It also is one of the best sounding solid state amps for clean sounds
in my
> opinion and I've seen quite a few highly talented blues, country, and
rock
> musicians playing out of this same model of amp over the years with
> excellent stage sounds.

Yeah, the steel players love(d?) 'em exactly for that reason. When I
was kid (during the 80's country music explosion) I would help my pa
haul his rig around for casuals (I couldn't get into the bars). I
always got to carry in the Peavey cause he didn't trust me with the
Blackface Deluxe or the reverb tank AND because he knew that not too
much could happen if I dropped it!

You know what I hated the most about those amps? The knobs...and you
thought the logos were bad.

-C

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The Amusing Erik Z

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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which logo are you talking about? Peavey has several different ones. I've got
a 5150 head and it's got a small simple. I used to have an old special, kind of
like a the model before the bandit, and it had that horid thing with the Y all
stuck out like it was emblem for some 80's rock band.
They're both pretty ugly. At least with the 5150 that's really the only thing
that stands out.

Erik Zukauskas
Producer/Engineer
http://members.aol.com/taez555

"when you die and go to heaven and you go up to god and say "hey there" and he
says "hey there" back, this is what you'll smell on his breath" side of a
Mike's Hard Lemonade Box

Lyle Caldwell

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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Both are ugly, the old one in a pointy-guitar kinda way, and the new one
exhibits a general absence of aesthetics.

--
Lyle Caldwell

Psionic Music
Composer, Producer, Arranger
cald...@bellsouth.net

"Gimme some money" - David St. Hubbins


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Ralph & Diane Barone

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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In article <19991122150754...@ng-fd1.aol.com>,
loho...@aol.com (Carlo Hoskins) wrote:

No, no. The first thing to go was that tacky pseudo-tweed and the second
was the emblem. Unfortunately, I couldn't find any purple paisley Tolex...

Chris G.

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Nov 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/25/99
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What you mean pointy guitars are passe? (sheepishly looking at my Washburn
Dime 333 and Guild Flying V). Now if only the Peavey logo on my Stereo
212 amp was backlit. Oh well, I'm gonna trade it back anyways for my Dean
Markley RM-80SR halfstack I originally traded for the Peavey.

Chris G.


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Cgcolemuse

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Nov 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/27/99
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All of the above- the Peavey dislike is (for me) a formative year thang,and one
that all the counseling in the world won't eradicate.... oh the stories I could
tell..... the F800B blowing smoke out in the early 70's.... the salesman
telling me if JBL or EV were better, then Peavey would use them instead of
CTS.... the giant knobs on the PA-9 mixers... better go, flashback coming!

Nancy Chandler-Pittman

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Dec 2, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/2/99
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WARNING! The following should be done only if you ARE CERTAIN that the
victim has a sense of humor, or at least runs slower than you.

I was doing second stage at a week-long convention last summer. The guys
doing the A stage are great folks with really really nice gear. The monitor
console was a Beautiful, nary-a-scratch Yamaha M3000 40 channel. Just for
fun, I grabbed an old, dirty, cracked Peavey Logo (the '80s metal styled
one, off a 115 International) out of the bottom of my junk case (well, ok,
ALL my cases are junk cases) and slipped it on the monitor board, right over
the Yamaha logo. The monitor guy thought it was funny, so we decided to
leave it on til the company owner saw it.
...4 days later.
...He was not amused.
...He still tenses up when I get near any of his gear.(Hi Ernie!)

Dave

> Lyle Caldwell wrote:
>
> > The logos. The ugliest logos in existance. See, you can't overlook
this
> > important stuff.
> >

> > --
> > Lyle Caldwell
> >
> > Psionic Music
> > Composer, Producer, Arranger
> > cald...@bellsouth.net
> >

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