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Symetrix 528E vs dbx 286A

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Leo Andrews

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Feb 27, 2011, 5:30:45 PM2/27/11
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Hi everyone,

It's been a few years since I was last on the newsgroup!

I've got a question for you all. My voice channel currently consists of
an AT 4033 microphone plugged in to a dbx 284A processor. Largely
speaking it's pretty good but I was thinking of upgrading to the
Symetrix 528E.

Price-wise it's a big jump but what does everyone think of it? I've read
reports that the 528E is not a lot better than the dbx box I already
have. I find that hard to believe. Apparently the old 528 had better
pre-amps than the newer 528E.

Has anyone had experience of either of this voice processors? I'd be
interested to hear your thoughts

Leo.

Ty Ford

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Feb 27, 2011, 7:55:37 PM2/27/11
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2011 17:30:45 -0500, Leo Andrews wrote
(in article <pgAap.50243$Ga7....@newsfe16.ams2>):

get the dbx 286a

Regards,

TY FORD


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Scott Dorsey

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Feb 28, 2011, 2:15:58 PM2/28/11
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Leo Andrews <leo.andrews@NOSPAM> wrote:
>
>I've got a question for you all. My voice channel currently consists of
>an AT 4033 microphone plugged in to a dbx 284A processor. Largely
>speaking it's pretty good but I was thinking of upgrading to the
>Symetrix 528E.

Call BSW, ask them to loan you a 528E for a week to audition it. Give it
a try on your voice and see what you like.

>Price-wise it's a big jump but what does everyone think of it? I've read
>reports that the 528E is not a lot better than the dbx box I already
>have. I find that hard to believe.

Why? Personally, I am not a fan of all-in-one boxes but as all-in-one boxes
go, all of these are reasonable if you aren't trying to do something crazy
and aggressive.

> Apparently the old 528 had better
>pre-amps than the newer 528E.

Symetrix fell victim to the same problem the rest of the industry did... AD
discontinued the SSM2015 and SSM2016 mike preamp chips, in favor of the
SSM2017 which didn't sound as good. That's the bad part.

The good part is that THAT makes a pin-compatible upgrade for the SSM2017
which sounds great. Eight solder joints and you're good to go.

>Has anyone had experience of either of this voice processors? I'd be
>interested to hear your thoughts

I don't have any serious experience with any of the all-in-one devices
other than the old 528. It was fine. I doubt it's any more fine than the
dbx, but try the 528E and decide for yourself.
--scott
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RD Jones

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Mar 1, 2011, 12:21:14 AM3/1/11
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On Feb 27, 4:30 pm, Leo Andrews <leo.andrews@NOSPAM> wrote:
> Price-wise it's a big jump but what does everyone think of it? I've read
> reports that the 528E is not a lot better than the dbx box I already
> have. I find that hard to believe. Apparently the old 528 had better
> pre-amps than the newer 528E.
>
> Has anyone had experience of either of this voice processors? I'd be
> interested to hear your thoughts

I'd have no hesitation to recommend the "old 528",
not being that familiar with the 528E.
I'd also say that the Rane VP12 is comparable to the 528.
They're both discontinued though.

rd

hank alrich

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Mar 1, 2011, 2:56:23 AM3/1/11
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RD Jones <ann...@juno.com> wrote:

From a different angle, given the power of DAW EQ and dynamics control,
why not track into 24/whatever, leaving "too much", (i.e., circa 20 to
12 dB) of headroom and season to taste while mixing?

If one seeks to have a badass chain built of old-school kit, like an
API/Neve/Great River mic pre and EQ into a real LA-2, why screw around
with a mediocre, if decent for the money, chain when the digital realm
can slay the results of mediocre analog?

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Leo Andrews

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Mar 20, 2011, 10:10:04 AM3/20/11
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> From a different angle, given the power of DAW EQ and dynamics control,
> why not track into 24/whatever, leaving "too much", (i.e., circa 20 to
> 12 dB) of headroom and season to taste while mixing?
>
A good approaching for studio/performance recording but unsuitable for
live presentation in a radio broadcast situation.

We'll still with the dbx I reckon!

Ty Ford

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Mar 21, 2011, 4:35:18 PM3/21/11
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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 10:10:04 -0400, Leo Andrews wrote
(in article <4Vnhp.194906$ud6....@newsfe19.ams2>):

good choice.

Regards,

Ty Ford

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