Remove applause in background?
Night Owl
Can anyone suggest a method of removing applause that overlaps the music?
I use CoolEdit, and can remove sections containing only applase of
course; but I do not know if there are settings in the Noise Reduction
function that will remove only the sound of the clapping.
This happens often in recordings of live performances.
Many thank for your advice.
Joan
Scott Dorsey
>
>Can anyone suggest a method of removing applause that overlaps the music?
Better mike placement.
>I use CoolEdit, and can remove sections containing only applase of
>course; but I do not know if there are settings in the Noise Reduction
>function that will remove only the sound of the clapping.
>
>This happens often in recordings of live performances.
No. All you can do is apply some limiting so that the level of the
applause is brought down to the level of the music. If you have a
limiter with an adjustable threshold, you can ride the threshold
with the music by ear, which is often a lot better than just leaving
it fixed.
Another thing you can sometimes do, if there are only a few claps you
want to be rid of (like when people start ^%$%^^$% applauding between
movements at classical concerts... usually before the last note has died
out), is just cut and paste over the claps. If you have a similar note
elsewhere or you have a long note that is longer than the clap, you can
paste over it.
But there's no magic bullet other than better miking.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Sorby
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> From an amateur...
>
> Can anyone suggest a method of removing applause that overlaps the music?
What is this 'applause' of which you speak?
;-)
--
Sorby
Night Owl
is slightly better. I will learn to live with it.
And if whoever recorded Mel Torme's live is reading this...BETTER MIKE
PLACEMENT PLEASE!
Joan
Scott Dorsey
>Thanks for the good advice. I did tone it down as you suggested and it
>is slightly better. I will learn to live with it.
>
>And if whoever recorded Mel Torme's live is reading this...BETTER MIKE
>PLACEMENT PLEASE!
It's deliberate! I kind of like it, actually. If you don't, get
_An Evening at Charlie's_, with Mel and George Shearing. Recorded
in a much smaller hall with a much more restrained audience. Plus
it has a great rendition of "I'm Hip."
Carey Carlan
> I use CoolEdit, and can remove sections containing only applase of
> course; but I do not know if there are settings in the Noise Reduction
> function that will remove only the sound of the clapping.
More often the applause overlap the reverberation, not the actual note. If
the last note direct sound ends before the clap, then you can cut and
replace the reverb with the synthetic stuff.
For the cleanest finish, identify where (a) the peak of the last note hits,
or (2) the direct sound stops. Depending on the character of that last
note, you can fade from the loud part or the end of the sound to the moment
that the first clap hits. That may be very short or it may have a good
fraction of a second. Leave plenty of silence to fill with reverb.
Then, and this is the harder part, create a reverb setting that sounds like
the hall and mix it with the trimmed cut. You have to match the duration
of the reverb, the volume, the frequency response, and the stereo spread to
get it right.
If I get a chance, I'll post a before/after set on my website later.
Don Worsham
The way I have delt with this sort of problem in the past is to locate
a suitable sample of applause from the project which has a clean
ending. It would help if the applause has a clean head as well. Key
is finding a sample that matches the sound ( level, EQ, presence) of
the out going applause as closely as possible. (might find it from
another section or from an out take) This match will made the fix very
easy.
Use this to bridge the edit by ending the applause over the incoming
edit.This might require fading down the outgoing audio.
This is known as "sweetening" in television terminology (my primary
area of speciality) and is quite common. When done correctly the "fix"
is transparent.
Good Luck!!!!
Ricky W. Hunt
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>
> Another thing you can sometimes do, if there are only a few claps you
> want to be rid of (like when people start ^%$%^^$% applauding between
> movements at classical concerts... usually before the last note has died
> out)
LOL. I was at a performance (local music show) where a friend noticed how
people clap like clockwork at certain places in the music. Of course the end
of a song is the most obvious but also when someone belts out a long
sustaining note or right where it goes "rockett's kick" style. He proposed
that clapping is "societal" and how people will go along with anything. He
proceeded to clap at the most odd times (like in the middle of a second
verse when absolutely nothing would warrant it) and sure the enough the
crowd would follow along like the proverbial lemming. He was just a "nobody"
in the audience too. It's not like he was one of those MC's on stage that
often goad this type of behavior.