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Behringer ECM-8000, disasssembly?

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Soundhaspriority

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Jan 7, 2007, 7:19:54 PM1/7/07
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I've just finished modding some MXL-603's, and the mike preamps of a Tascam
FW-1082, and have some parts left over, so I thought I'd open up the
Behringers to see what can be done.

Can these mikes be easily taken apart? There are three screws around the
XLR, but I don't want to pull on that if wires will break.

Bob Morein
Dresher, PA
(215) 646-4894


Les Cargill

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Jan 7, 2007, 8:15:14 PM1/7/07
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Soundhaspriority wrote:

> I've just finished modding some MXL-603's, and the mike preamps of a Tascam
> FW-1082, and have some parts left over, so I thought I'd open up the
> Behringers to see what can be done.
>
> Can these mikes be easily taken apart? There are three screws around the
> XLR, but I don't want to pull on that if wires will break.
>

The ones I have will not easily disassemble. You can pull about half a
little circuit card with a transformer on it before the wires fight back.


> Bob Morein
> Dresher, PA
> (215) 646-4894
>
>

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Les Cargill

Arny Krueger

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Jan 8, 2007, 2:08:43 PM1/8/07
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"Les Cargill" <lcar...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Soundhaspriority wrote:
>
>> I've just finished modding some MXL-603's, and the mike
>> preamps of a Tascam FW-1082, and have some parts left
>> over, so I thought I'd open up the Behringers to see
>> what can be done. Can these mikes be easily taken apart? There are three
>> screws around the XLR, but I don't want to pull on that
>> if wires will break.
>
> The ones I have will not easily disassemble. You can pull
> about half a little circuit card with a transformer on it
> before the wires fight back.

That's my experience.

There is a brass fitting that holds the capsule, that is press-fitted to the
body of the mic. Slide it off and you can disconnect the wires. Then you can
remove the circuit card. Yup, not pretty.


Soundhaspriority

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Jan 8, 2007, 2:13:50 PM1/8/07
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"Arny Krueger" <ar...@hotpop.com> wrote in message
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The brass fitting, is that the entire 1/3" diameter tube,, or just the tip?
Did you work it by twisting or a straight pull?

Arny Krueger

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Jan 8, 2007, 3:43:48 PM1/8/07
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"Soundhaspriority" <now...@nowhere.org> wrote in message
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It's been about 2 years since I did this last, so when I wrote the post I
was a bit fuzzy about the details. However, after some reflection, I believe
that it was the tube that came free. Both the tube and the tip are brass.

I seem to recall that I tried both twisting and pulling, but that pulling
was the effective move. I ended up scuffing the plating on the tube. But, I
also ended up with an operational mic when I put things back together.
Purpose of the exercise was curiosity.


Geoff

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Jan 8, 2007, 3:58:24 PM1/8/07
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Mind you, doing anything to the mic will render any supposed 'calibration'
irrelevent.

geoff


Don Pearce

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Jan 8, 2007, 4:05:38 PM1/8/07
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On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:58:24 +1300, "Geoff" <ge...@nospam-paf.co.nz>
wrote:

Probably much easier and more productive to buy a few Panasonic
electret capsules instead, and play with those.

d

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Soundhaspriority

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Jan 8, 2007, 6:33:11 PM1/8/07
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"Don Pearce" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:58:24 +1300, "Geoff" <ge...@nospam-paf.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
[snip]

>
> Probably much easier and more productive to buy a few Panasonic
> electret capsules instead, and play with those.
>
> d
>
I'm looking at the Audix TR-40 as a fully engineered replacement. Any
opinion?

Scott Dorsey

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Jan 8, 2007, 6:48:29 PM1/8/07
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Soundhaspriority <now...@nowhere.org> wrote:
>"Don Pearce" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:58:24 +1300, "Geoff" <ge...@nospam-paf.co.nz>
>> wrote:
>[snip]
>>
>> Probably much easier and more productive to buy a few Panasonic
>> electret capsules instead, and play with those.
>>
>I'm looking at the Audix TR-40 as a fully engineered replacement. Any
>opinion?

Audix, Avenson, and Earthworks all make similar microphones based around
the same series of Japanese capsules that the capsule Behringer used was
copied from.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Soundhaspriority

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Jan 8, 2007, 7:12:48 PM1/8/07
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"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
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I thought that perhaps Earthworks made their own.
With respect to the others, you mean the Panasonic capsules? With prices
that top out around $3 ?

Scott Dorsey

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Jan 8, 2007, 7:51:51 PM1/8/07
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Soundhaspriority <now...@nowhere.org> wrote:
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>I thought that perhaps Earthworks made their own.
>With respect to the others, you mean the Panasonic capsules? With prices
>that top out around $3 ?

Some of them use the three-terminal Panasonic types, which are closer to
$20. These use a conventional FET with an external bias resistor rather
than the FET-IC used in the $3 ones.

Richard Crowley

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Jan 8, 2007, 7:59:49 PM1/8/07
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"Soundhaspriority" wrote ...
> "Don Pearce" wrote...

>> Probably much easier and more productive to buy a few Panasonic
>> electret capsules instead, and play with those.
>>
> I'm looking at the Audix TR-40 as a fully engineered replacement. Any
> opinion?

One would hope that at that price the Audix would have a significantly
lower self-noise than the equivalent Behringer. IIRC, that is the main
shortcoming of the Behr ECM8000.

Audix specs self-noise at 26dB (17dB A-weighted) but, of course,
Behringer does not specify that number at all (assuming it would
be credible if they did.)


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