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imbald

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Jan 7, 2001, 10:52:48 AM1/7/01
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can anyone tell me what drum is used alot of times in the beginig intro to
reggae songs? is it a snare tuned high or is a special type of drum used in
this style of music.


Harvey Gerst

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Jan 7, 2001, 1:04:57 PM1/7/01
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"imbald" <imb...@optonline.net> wrote:

Usually a piccolo snare, tightened to the point where the head is about to pop.

Harvey Gerst
Indian Trail Recording Studio
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Mark Plancke

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Jan 7, 2001, 2:09:43 PM1/7/01
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"imbald" <imb...@optonline.net> wrote:

A snare with the snares turned off, tuned mid to high range. Sounds
more like a timbale than a snare. Also track the entire group live
through an MCI board and multi if you want an authentic reggae sound.
<g>

Mark Plancke
SOUNDTECH RECORDING STUDIOS
Windsor, Ontario, Canada
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Scott Dorsey

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Jan 7, 2001, 2:15:11 PM1/7/01
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Mark Plancke <NewsG...@SoundtechRecording.com> wrote:
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>A snare with the snares turned off, tuned mid to high range. Sounds
>more like a timbale than a snare. Also track the entire group live
>through an MCI board and multi if you want an authentic reggae sound.

I thought you had to use a Tascam Model 10, and about a million generations
of 4-track 1/4" tape?
--scott
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jpste...@my-deja.com

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Jan 7, 2001, 2:55:34 PM1/7/01
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In article
<EC10E129927A9419.31382308...@lp.airnews.net>,

Harvey Gerst <har...@ITRstudio.com> wrote:
> "imbald" <imb...@optonline.net> wrote:
>
> >can anyone tell me what drum is used alot of times in the beginig
intro to
> >reggae songs? is it a snare tuned high or is a special type of drum
used in
> >this style of music.
>
> Usually a piccolo snare, tightened to the point where the head is
about to pop.

Also, to my ears, it also sounds like resonant filtering might be used
a fair amount of the time. But maybe that's more dub than reggae.

jp


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William Vits

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Jan 7, 2001, 3:38:26 PM1/7/01
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Either a piccolo snare or perhaps a timbale (single headed metal shell tuned
high)?

Bill Vits
GR Symphony

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Myles Boisen

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Jan 7, 2001, 3:52:11 PM1/7/01
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Real reggae drummers use some of the crappiest drum kits I have ever seen.
Mismatched kits with heads that are usually totally dead, broken hardware etc.
But you know what? These guys groove like crazy, and it once you put a bunch of
spring reverb on the drums, the deadness and lack of tone don't matter. The
snare is usually tuned up pretty high, and either the snares are off or (more
commonly, I believe) the drum is so dead that you just don't hear much in the
ways of highs or snare rattle. Also, some drummers will use a timbale in place
of a rack or floor tom.

Another component of the authentic old school drum sound is printing the drums
as hot as possible to tape, and then going through a few 1/4" tape generations.

Myles Boisen
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regg...@my-deja.com

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Jan 7, 2001, 4:39:26 PM1/7/01
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In article <6t466.194757$hD4.50...@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com>,


Most of the suggestions posted are correct...dead heads (usually old
clear pinstripe or evans type hydraulic heads) and boxy sounding toms
are the norm, that is if your going for that old school Lee Scratch
Perry dub sound. But to answer your question I believe you are
referring to a timbale...Tuned up really high and commonly placed where
the floor tom would be. As for a Bob Marley and the Wailers tone his
(Carlton Barrett)snare was a vintage Ludwig 5-1/2 X 14 with a coated
head tuned up til the snare began to choke itself...This gave a timbale
like effect when struck on the edges of the head (slightly ringy but
controlled) with the advantages of having a loud and snappy cross rim
shot...The tighter the head the snappier the rim shot sound. The spring
verbs really do liven up the deadness of the drums.

Peace,
Bop

Tonebarge

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Jan 7, 2001, 6:50:50 PM1/7/01
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The acts I've worked with have all used a Timbale for that sound.
Tight. Irie mon!

TB

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Bob Olhsson

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Jan 7, 2001, 7:22:22 PM1/7/01
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In article <kofh5toflgcgr73o6...@4ax.com>, Mark Plancke
<Ma...@Soundtechrecording.com> wrote:

>A snare with the snares turned off, tuned mid to high range. Sounds
>more like a timbale than a snare.

The best I've seen was a timbale in addition to a snare.

The drummer had been flown in for the session from Jamaica and just an
overhead and kick mike sounded exactly like a LOT of Jamaican Reggae
records. This guy was utterly amazing with a totally bizarre drum
setup. I wish I knew his name.

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Jay Kahrs

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Jan 7, 2001, 10:31:18 PM1/7/01
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>>A snare with the snares turned off, tuned mid to high range. Sounds
>>more like a timbale than a snare.
>
>The best I've seen was a timbale in addition to a snare.
>
>The drummer had been flown in for the session from Jamaica and just an
>overhead and kick mike sounded exactly like a LOT of Jamaican Reggae
>records. This guy was utterly amazing with a totally bizarre drum
>setup. I wish I knew his name.

One of my friends (and first call session guy) plays full-time in a Jimmy
Buffet tribute band. He has a 5x13" snare that's cranked to the point where the
heads about to pop from looking at it. He also carries a little 6" mini-timbale
that he has next to his rack tom. Very hip and very loud. Sometimes he also
brings a "fake" timbale. It's an old 5x14" metal snare with no bottom head for
yet another variation on a theme.
---
-Jay Kahrs
Mad Moose Recording Inc.
(formerly BrownSound Studios)
Livingston, NJ (we're moving!!!)
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Bert

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Jan 7, 2001, 7:36:05 PM1/7/01
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Good responses from all.

Another couple of pointers...

The intro rolls are usually played from middle to edge, starting as a
straight roll, ending in an almost rimshot (for that clankey ring). With
plenty of gusto.

The snare damping is usually a handkerchief laid on the head, adjusted
during the performance!

As for the skins, a kick drum head of gaffa (sorry, duct tape), plastic bags
and more gaffa (ontop of the remains of the original) is not unusual!

But the sounds......Yeah! Spring reverbs on 11!

Hey, could somebody program a "modelling spring reverb" (complete with
distortion)? I'd love one.


This is the new wave Abandon ship

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Jan 8, 2001, 3:31:25 AM1/8/01
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I just did a cool dub record coming out on hellcat this year and we used a
piccollo snare. The drummer for this session was the real deal. It was tuned
high as hell. As far as micing Id say lose the room mics and definitly try to
get a lot of snare in the overheads. That was pretty crucial to the sound.
Jesse Cannon
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