Steve Perry Vocal Sound
Mike L.
especially the Escape and Frontiers albums) recorded his vocals? I am
particularly impressed with the way his vocal sound seems to be drenched
in reverb, yet it doesn't sound washed out. Anyone have any info on
this? Thanks in advance.
Mike
Mike L.
Mike L.
Mike
ryanm
"Mike L." <mu...@mediaone.net> wrote in message
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> Anyone here know what signal chain was used when Steve Perry (Journey-
> especially the Escape and Frontiers albums) recorded his vocals? I am
> particularly impressed with the way his vocal sound seems to be drenched
> in reverb, yet it doesn't sound washed out. Anyone have any info on
> this? Thanks in advance.
>
voice. Not reverb, but the range he sings in and the tone of his voice give
it a particularly "light" and "airy" quality, which, with just a small
amount of reverb could sound like it's drenched in reverb but remains crisp.
ryanm
EnsnareYou
The reverbs used were actual live chambers and a bit of EMT 250.
Mark Plancke
>Anyone here know what signal chain was used when Steve Perry (Journey-
>especially the Escape and Frontiers albums) recorded his vocals? I am
>particularly impressed with the way his vocal sound seems to be drenched
>in reverb, yet it doesn't sound washed out. Anyone have any info on
>this? Thanks in advance.
>
>Mike
I beileve that a Dolby A unit was part of his trebely sound. I think
that they played back the track through the Dolby A unit disabling
some part of the cicuit (the bass) and used the undecoded output of
it. Yuk.
Mark
SOUNDTECH RECORDING STUDIOS
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Tonebarge
switch box so that he can rapidly o-dub and then double eq's the vox
track. The reason the verb doesn't wash him out is that it is delayed
before the verb gets it. Fun guy to work with.
TB
"Mike L." wrote:
>
> Anyone here know what signal chain was used when Steve Perry (Journey-
> especially the Escape and Frontiers albums) recorded his vocals? I am
> particularly impressed with the way his vocal sound seems to be drenched
> in reverb, yet it doesn't sound washed out. Anyone have any info on
> this? Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike
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David Collins
"Rail Jon Rogut" <rai...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On "Oh Sherry", Niko used a 67, an API mic pre and an API 525 compressor (in
> the old Record One yellow API) -- the old Val Garay technique... big
> pullover windshield on the mic (with the hole opening at the front), and
> have the singer put their nose up to the hole. 3M79 and Agfa 468 at +3/185
> I'd expect.... Vocal reverb... more than likely the tube EMT 140.
>
> Cheers.
>
> Rail
And the Capitol chambers via Dolby A encoded phone lines.
DC
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Brian Tankersley
Steve Perry's vocals were awesome, IMO.
BT
Mark Plancke wrote:
> "Mike L." <mu...@mediaone.net> wrote:
>
> >Anyone here know what signal chain was used when Steve Perry (Journey-
> >especially the Escape and Frontiers albums) recorded his vocals? I am
> >particularly impressed with the way his vocal sound seems to be drenched
> >in reverb, yet it doesn't sound washed out. Anyone have any info on
> >this? Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Mike
>
Fletcher
> Anyone here know what signal chain was used when Steve Perry (Journey-
> especially the Escape and Frontiers albums) recorded his vocals? I am
> particularly impressed with the way his vocal sound seems to be drenched
> in reverb, yet it doesn't sound washed out. Anyone have any info on
> this? Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike
I didn't work the gig...but a few years ago Steve was out here working on
some stuff with Nuno Bettencourt [Extreme]...and insisted they find an API
525c compressor for his vocals. I never bothered to ask what they were
using for a mic.
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Fletcher
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Rail Jon Rogut
the old Record One yellow API) -- the old Val Garay technique... big
pullover windshield on the mic (with the hole opening at the front), and
have the singer put their nose up to the hole. 3M79 and Agfa 468 at +3/185
I'd expect.... Vocal reverb... more than likely the tube EMT 140.
Cheers.
Rail
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"Fletcher" <Flet...@mercenary.com> wrote in message
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ROMCHA
i don't hear much about them....
anyone know the difference between a 525 and a 525c??
Joseph DeMaio
different and the deesser actually does something on the c revision.
Joseph DeMaio
Shorefire Recording Studios
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Mike L.
Mike
Mike L.
Bob Vandiver
> Thanks to everyone for the info. You guys rock!
>
> Mike
You're welcome!
Bob
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Fletcher
"Mike L." wrote:
> Thanks to everybody for the info. You guys rock!
>
> Mike
Psssssst...most of that 'vocal' sound came out of Steve Perry's mouth...so unless
you're recording 'Steve Perry'...most of that information is pretty damn
irrelevant. Just thought I'd mention it.
Ernie43801
True.... True.....I played in a band with one of Steve's best friends and Steve
Perry (even with a bad chest cold) sounded absolutely incredible when he would
sit in with our group.
BTW he actually used the mics he endorsed (EV handheld condensors) BTW Steve
also said that in the studio he always insisted on a plate reverb. He also said
all the harmony vocal tracks on Journey's records are him.
Funny story..... one night (playing in a sleazy bar in Fresno, CA) Steve sang
every single song with us for about 2.5 hours. We would put a "cheat sheet" in
front of him and he sang every copy tune we knew and was incredible. There was
an old guy in the audience and he stood right in front of Steve for about 5
minutes, then old guy said "You gotta good voice.... I think you could make
it". Steve just said "Thank You" and shook his hand. Steve is a very down to
earth guy. He's blessed with great pipes.
Dan Bates
JJG ...
Jeff
Val Garay
as I had it built. ALL the mic pre's were Valley People/transformerless
preamps. I still have 15 of them in my rack. The reason was, when I was
building the console in Farmingdale, NY, they sent me the preamps to
try at the sound factory and they always sounded dark. Very much like
the ones at the SF. So I wanted something more open and that's when I
found those. There was never any api preamps in that console.
Also, the reverb was an EMT140 tube/mono plate (we had 2) with Cooper
Time Cubes on the front end producing 14ms of pre-delay.
Val Garay
Val Garay
as well as Ladanyi, Bolas, Bosworth, and the rest of the guys I taught
there and at the Sound Factory, you'll hear an inherent similarity
between them all.
PRESENCE and SIZE.
Peace,
Val Garay
ScotFraser
The Cooper produces a lot more than just a delay. <g> You must have had to do
some big time EQ to restore some decency to the returns.
Scott Fraser
Blind Joni
>between them all.
>PRESENCE and SIZE.
I agree and hear too little of it in newer recordings..for my taste.
John A. Chiara
SOS Recording Studio
Live Sound Inc.
Albany, NY
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518-449-1637
jgoo...@worldnet.att.net
I have 2 of your old 525's from Record One. I love those things. Ugly
color, though...How many 525's did you have?
Jeff
Val Garay
They sounded great!
Phil Brown
>They sounded great!
I will never forget the day we opened up a Cooper Time Cube. What a hoot.
Phil Brown
Neil Henderson
"Phil Brown" <philc...@aol.communged> wrote in message
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> >I don't know what Cooper Time Cubes you used but it took no eq.
>>They sounded great!
>
> I will never forget the day we opened up a Cooper Time Cube. What a hoot.
Why... not one flux capacitor, but TWO? :D
Seriously, why?
Neil Henderson
Phil Brown
If you've never opened one up I won't destroy the moment for you.
Phil Brown
EricK
Cooper Time Cubes, quite the technological masterpiece. They do have a
unique sound though.
--
Eric
Mike Rivers
In article <20041209224630...@mb-m20.aol.com> philc...@aol.communged writes:
> If you've never opened one up [Cooper Time Cube] I won't destroy
> the moment for you.
Oh, c'mon. Few people will ever have the opportunity for "the moment"
today. You won't spoil it if you describe what's on either end of the
coiled up garden hose.
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Scott Dorsey
>I don't know what Cooper Time Cubes you used but it took no eq.
>They sounded great!
At Master Sound, I remember using the Time Cube as predelay for the EMT,
and this being part of the standard configuration that everybody used. The
Time Cube was kind of hollow and midrangy, but once it got through the EMT
it didn't matter. And we weren't drenching everything in it either, so it
could be very unnatural by itself and still be reasonable and subtle in a
mix.
It is very fine to see you here, Mr. Garay. I hope you stick around... this
is weird sort of forum but it's a lot of fun once you get all of the political
debate killfiled.
--scott
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But not just ANY Sears garden hose.
It's a _particular_ model of Sears garden hose.
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Phil Brown
>But not just ANY Sears garden hose.
>It's a _particular_ model of Sears garden hose.
>--scott
Gold Star in Hollywood-of sainted memory-had perhaps the most famous echo
chamber of all time. It was an odd shape and tiled. Attempts were made over the
years to duplicate it but they never sounded the same. Doc Seigel said it was
the grout he used.
Phil Brown
Mike Rivers
> >> I will never forget the day we opened up a Cooper Time Cube. What a hoot.
> It's a Sears garden hose.
> But not just ANY Sears garden hose.
> It's a _particular_ model of Sears garden hose.
But being Sears, there will always be replacement parts (at least for
the garden hose part). Or at least Sears used to be like that, but
I'll bet they aren't any more.
Joe Sensor
> But being Sears, there will always be replacement parts (at least for
> the garden hose part). Or at least Sears used to be like that, but
> I'll bet they aren't any more.
I dunno, now that Sears is Kmart..
Lee
is that a real poncho or is that a sears poncho?