Lexicon MPX-1
Bob Windsor
application) or more of a "guitar" processor? Sorry, I have been unable
to demo one, or get a list of patches, hoping someone here has some on
hands experience with this unit. I am primarily looking for a "studio"
quality reverb unit, other effects are a bonus, just don't need another
guitar processor!
Thanks,
BW
Steve
Do you mean the MPX-100? If so, its primarily a studio type processor. I'm
pretty impressed with it, especially for the money. The reverb is quite
natural sounding and I find the controls easy to use.
Steve
BrianVnZnt
>Is this primarily a studio processor (effects geared toward this
>application) or more of a "guitar" processor?
It's an attempt by Lexicon to be too many things in which one includes guitar
effects box. I would place the reverbs in the *almost ok* category. I find some
interesting effects outside of the reverbs with my MPX-1.
Understand, I'm a bit biased since I have a PCM-70 and PCM-90 that I turn to
for reverb. I did some listening to the reverbs on the MPX-1 and then never
returned.
I would look elsewhere for *studio quality* reverb.
Brian
ben porvinsky
From: brian...@aol.com (BrianVnZnt)
>Bob Windsor wrote
>>
>>Is this primarily a studio processor (effects geared toward this
>>application) or more of a "guitar" processor?
>It's an attempt by Lexicon to be too many things in which one includes
>guitar
>effects box. I would place the reverbs in the *almost ok* category. I
>find some
>interesting effects outside of the reverbs with my MPX-1.
>
I'll jump in, cause 1 month ago, I got a MPX-1 after big comparisons
(SRV3030, PCM 80/90, MPX100).
It's got nicer reverbs than the Roland SRV and is not far from Lexi's
PCM90, IMO. Other than that you can do weird things like you wanna do
them. There are 2 routable LFOs, a 5 patch mod-matrix, random
generators, etc.. - really nice.
It's definitly not a standard guitar effects box (but there's a MPX1
derivate, that is...with distortion stuff and low-z input)
>Understand, I'm a bit biased since I have a PCM-70 and PCM-90 that I
>turn to
>for reverb. I did some listening to the reverbs on the MPX-1 and then
>never
>returned.
>
>I would look elsewhere for *studio quality* reverb.
>
>Brian
Ah no, I disagree. But you really have to edit those damn reverb
presets to get something great.
-bernd
Andres Gonzalez
from Lexicon told me that the MPX-1 has the same reverb processor (DSP)
and uses the EXACT same algorithms as the PCM-70. I wonder why they
sound different. The MPX-1 has 18-bit A/D and 20-bit D/A and 32 bit DSP.
What is the size of the converters on the PCM-70 and PCM-90?
Andres
BrianVnZnt <brian...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Bob Windsor wrote
>
> >Is this primarily a studio processor (effects geared toward this
> >application) or more of a "guitar" processor?
>
> It's an attempt by Lexicon to be too many things in which one includes
guitar
> effects box. I would place the reverbs in the *almost ok* category. I find
some
> interesting effects outside of the reverbs with my MPX-1.
>
Sam Trenholme
>application) or more of a "guitar" processor?
The MPX-1 is a project (?) studio processor.
The MPX-G2 is a guitar-oriented processor, with good reverb.
You should give the MPX-1 a listen, to see if the reverb is good enough
for your uses. I have not given one a good listen myself, but I get the
feeling that it is about as good as the PCM80s reverb, or one of the
reverbs on the PCM90 when the PCM90 is in "dual verb" mode.
More information here:
- Sam
--
"Reality is the most perfect vision of God's will" -- Orson Scott Card
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BrianVnZnt
>I'll jump in, cause 1 month ago, I got a MPX-1 after big comparisons
>(SRV3030, PCM 80/90, MPX100).
>It's got nicer reverbs than the Roland SRV and is not far from Lexi's
>PCM90, IMO. Other than that you can do weird things like you wanna do
>them
As I see it, there are two basic issues.
1) Taste. I like the other reverbs better. I bought my PCM-70 in the 80s and am
used to it. The new A/D converters and algorithms on the PCM-80 sounded ok, but
I, with my opinions and shit, just plain passed. Some algorithms on the 80
where touted as the same on the 70 and even though the 80 didn't carry the
noise the 70 does, it's representation of the 70 didn't SHWING my shlong.
>Ah no, I disagree. But you really have to edit those damn reverb
>presets to get something great.
( I will admit I haven't done a lot of reverb tweaking with my MPX-1. I just
fired it up and listened to the presets, then plinkered with pre-delay and mix,
I think, and was not impressed.)
2) Technology: The A/D converters are different and the chips in all of these
units are different. Some algorithms might be the same, but gentlemen, it's
different!
So, in my opinion, The MPX-1 concentrates on muli-effects and attempts to do
many things. I like those many things. The audio gentleman seeking opinions
obviously needs to listen to the units and do comparisons, and as well, do some
research about what reverb should fit the material he plans to engineer.
Perhaps we should ask? Regardless, it's not a unit I would recommend as *studio
quality* I guess I'd go with the PCM-90 as a blanket recommendation -- again,
not knowing what he's doing.
Now, most importantly, the forty niners suck and it's been difficult to watch
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light at the end of the tunnel has just arrived in the form of one Distressor,
one Avalon 737 and one Neuman TLM 103… sooo…I'm going away now…to the land,
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happy now...
Brian
Robert Watkins
Bob Windsor <bwin...@nrcan.gc.ca> wrote in message
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> Is this primarily a studio processor (effects geared toward this
BananaHead
for all reverb and one for effects. That was the basic concept. It
also has studio reverb and effect patches for many instruments (one of
which is guitar) but it's not meant as a guitar processor. It uses XLR
and all that. However, the main thing is the program-ability. You can
put the effects in any order and do just about anything you can think
up. NOT the same unit as the much more limited MPX-100. The reverb is
very good as far as fake reverb goes.
Anyhow as you may have noticed from my other posts I'm selling ALL
digital reverb and effects and only using organic reverb that does not
come from a chip. So obviously I don't use my MPX-1 anymore. If you
want it just email me what you think is a fair deal. I bought it March
1999 and it has since sat in my private mix room and been used on only
a few mixes. A perfect shape unit and I don't have a use for it.
-BH
In article <38473BA5...@nrcan.gc.ca>,
Bob Windsor <bwin...@nrcan.gc.ca> wrote:
> Is this primarily a studio processor (effects geared toward this
> application) or more of a "guitar" processor? Sorry, I have been
unable
> to demo one, or get a list of patches, hoping someone here has some on
> hands experience with this unit. I am primarily looking for
a "studio"
> quality reverb unit, other effects are a bonus, just don't need
another
> guitar processor!
>
> Thanks,
>
> BW
>
>
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Before you buy.
Brian Cassell
PCM60. Guarantee that's not the only change.
Andres Gonzalez wrote:
>
> At AES in NYC (not the most recent one but the previous one) an engineer
> from Lexicon told me that the MPX-1 has the same reverb processor (DSP)
> and uses the EXACT same algorithms as the PCM-70. I wonder why they
> sound different. The MPX-1 has 18-bit A/D and 20-bit D/A and 32 bit DSP.
> What is the size of the converters on the PCM-70 and PCM-90?
>
> Andres
>
> BrianVnZnt <brian...@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:19991203114038...@ng-fm1.aol.com...
> > Bob Windsor wrote
> >
> > >Is this primarily a studio processor (effects geared toward this
> > >application) or more of a "guitar" processor?
> >
Idim
>(SRV3030, PCM 80/90, MPX100).
>It's got nicer reverbs than the Roland SRV and is not far from Lexi's
>PCM90, IMO. >>
FYI, but perhaps more for those here with shallower pockets, Lexicon is
introducing a new box, the MPX500; digital i/o, internal power supply; list
price is, I believe, going to be $600, so, should be a 'lesser MPX-1' or a
better MPX100'.
I'll be interested in taking a listen.
Joe B
kl3in
> FYI, but perhaps more for those here with shallower pockets, Lexicon is
> introducing a new box, the MPX500; digital i/o, internal power supply; list
> price is, I believe, going to be $600, so, should be a 'lesser MPX-1' or a
> better MPX100'.
Unlike the others it's also 24 bit.
ben porvinsky
Yeah, the Roland SRV3030 is also 24 bit, but I prefer the reverb of the
MPX. So I conclude, 18bit in/20bit out makes better reverb.
-bernd
Joe Egan
the MPX1. You can find them for $650-700 and they sound great. There are
certain things I prefer the PCM 70 for, like the Rich Chamber and Large Plate
algorithms- long, dense reverbs. But the PCM 70 on the used market goes for
more than the MPX1 new. For general ambiance type reverbs I prefer the MPX1.
The MPX1 also has a lot of useful (and some quite useless) presets for lead
guitar goo and special FX.
Joe Egan
Eclipse Recording
Hinesburg, VT
"C'est un the dreamers of dreams coming up a wire is a miracle canna change the
law o'the rest are just brokers. Yadda yadda yadaa yadaa.."
-Steve Albini
Bob Windsor
probably won't take it back. Nice thing is , even if I buy a PCM? later,
I'll still be able to put this unit to good use, and for now, some of the
reverbs were, to my abused ears, "impressive."
Bob Windsor wrote:
> Is this primarily a studio processor (effects geared toward this
Rick Novak
Are you heavily tweaking the presets? I've been somewhat disappointed with
the preset reverbs in my MPX-1. I mean, the cathedral sounds like a cathedral and
the garage sounds like a garage, but they're not very useful in the context of a
typical pop song.
Any recommendations, tweaked or otherwise, for a general purpose vocal reverb
on the MPX-1? (I used to like preset #4.1 on the Lex 200 I wish I still owned.
:>)
Thanks, Rick Novak.
Joe Egan wrote:
> I have a PCM 70 and an MPX 1. If I was going to buy one of the two, I'd pick
> the MPX1. You can find them for $650-700 and they sound great. There are
> certain things I prefer the PCM 70 for, like the Rich Chamber and Large Plate
> algorithms- long, dense reverbs. But the PCM 70 on the used market goes for
> more than the MPX1 new. For general ambiance type reverbs I prefer the MPX1.
> The MPX1 also has a lot of useful (and some quite useless) presets for lead
> guitar goo and special FX.
> "C'est un the dreamers of dreams coming up a wire is a miracle canna change the
> law o'the rest are just brokers. Yadda yadda yadaa yadaa.."
> -Steve Albini
(Nice tag! :>)
Rob22222
tried it on a few singers, scrolling through reverbs and nobody's gone for it
yet. i'll choose my lxp1 or roland space echo every time.
wondering tho if anyones found a resource for custom presets for the sucker.
i'm staying open minded (while aiming for a tc m3000)
thanks