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Geoff...@my-dejanews.com

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Jul 30, 1998, 3:00:00 AM7/30/98
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Hi

Well, haven't there been a lot of rumors in the trade about this lovely
console since I made that original posting?!

The console, mentioned in my post a few weeks ago, and also being pushed by
Steve Thompson (who helped us locate the EMI Abbey Road and EMI Paris
consoles we sent back to the UK last year), has a tentative buyer, but, in
the meantime, is being shipped to our premises in Hollywood.

Any folk wishing to view this lovely console, please give me a call. In the
event the current deal doesn't complete there's still the opportunity to
purchase this fantastic console.

I will commission the console for the eventual buyer and provide full test
specification details. You won't find many other old Neve consoles in such
great shape!

Geoff Tanner
phoeni...@earthlink.net

phone 323 462 4373
fax 323 462 6137

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Zzyx123

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Aug 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/3/98
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Yeah there have been MANY rumours about it ?

We were quite interested in the console and when we heard one was for sale we
tried to find out where it was.

When we found out that Phoenix Audio were involved we lost a deal of interest,
but thought that we would still like more info and pricing on it as it may
still be within our buget.

We did a bit of poking around, as we were told that the console was for sale at
a staggering $175,000 !!!!!

We contacted AMS and after being passed from one guy and office to another we
found out that the console came from a studio in Tokyo and that it was
purchased for just $75,000 (converted from Yen ).

They dont seriously think that anyone will give them $175,000 for a console
they paid $75,000 for ? thats a profit of 100 grand !!

What a rip off.

We also wanted to find out more about this guy Tanner who does so much posting
and claims to be the worlds expert on Neve consoles, as he would have been the
one doing the work on the console.

Once again we spoke to AMS and had difficulty in finding anyone who had even
heard of him, one of the people we spoke to said that they (I quote) "... seem
to remember him being a failed wireman, and they gave him the job of doing
specials, as no one else wanted to mess around with odd ball bits..."

I tried contacting the office of Phoenix audio to find they do not have an
office, but use the phones of Grand Master studios in Los Angeles ??

Now you know why we have suddenly lost all interest in the console.

Marco Fellini

EveAnna Manley

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Aug 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/3/98
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phoeni...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> In article <199808031450...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
> zzy...@aol.com (Zzyx123) wrote:
>
> Hi Marco
>
> Gosh! What a diatribe from someone who I've never met or had any dealings
> with! Mind you, there is a familiar ring to some of your mistruths that I've
> read in other documents that a sad little bearded man in England has sent to
> our suppliers! They just laugh and send them on to us because they know him
> of old! Now he's got you to bark his little message for him, too wimpy to do
> it himself!
>
> Where do we start with this pile of nonsense?
>
> Well, I know that little man is pissed off because he wanted to buy the
> console himself and annoyed a lot of people in his vain efforts! The figures
> are fictitious, of course, just posted to do the maximum harm (or so he
> thinks, because, when you lie on the Internet, who do you think gets the
> shorter straw?) He's also pissed off because we won four other console
> contracts and have happy customers at the end of them.
>
> Does anybody really believe that "Marco" was able to phone AMS-Neve and get
> all this financial information from anyone there? Tut, Tut, Marco!
>
> And, I know a lot of folk at AMS-Neve and have many beers with them at the Cat
> and Fiddle on Sunset discussing the old times!
>
> Shit, I almost fell off my chair laughing at your "failed wireman" quote!
> Actually, I would fail as a wireman because my soldering sucks compared with
> the ace guys who wired up those old Neves! We employ some of them at our UK
> branch and they still joke about my soldering!
>
> Strange that failed wireman has his name in the "drawn by" and "checked by"
> sections of all those Neve circuit diagrams!
>
> And for the benefit of the last point, Marco, Yes, I do have office and tech
> space I rent from GrandMaster, but their phone number is 323 462 6136 and mine
> is 323 462 4373.
>
> Bless your little cotton socks, Marco, and bless the poor little sod who put
> you up to this!
>
> Geoff Tanner
> Phoeni...@earthlink.net
>
> PS We've sold the console and I'm handing it over to a VERY happy person
> Tuesday morning!
>
> X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X X
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Indeed. shoooooweeeeee it sure stinks in here. Mesmells a rat, a little
bearded rat? Pissoff "Fellini" you failed "man" you. That bogus address
zzy...@aol.com at Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.UK fools noone.
Go pick on little lying bearded creeps your own size.

I'll stick my neck out for a real man like Geoff Tanner any day.
--
Cheers, EveAnna Manley
Manley Laboratories, Inc. 13880 Magnolia Ave. Chino, CA. 91710
Tel: (909) 627-4256 Fax: (909) 628-2482
<http://www.manleylabs.com>

phoeni...@earthlink.net

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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Fletcher

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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Zzyx123 wrote:
>
> Yeah there have been MANY rumours about it ?
>
> We were quite interested in the console and when we heard one was for sale we
> tried to find out where it was.
>
> When we found out that Phoenix Audio were involved we lost a deal of interest,
> but thought that we would still like more info and pricing on it as it may
> still be within our buget.
>
> We did a bit of poking around, as we were told that the console was for sale at
> a staggering $175,000 !!!!!
>
> We contacted AMS and after being passed from one guy and office to another we
> found out that the console came from a studio in Tokyo and that it was
> purchased for just $75,000 (converted from Yen ).

Yeah but if you look at where the Yen sits at the current exchange rate
it's about $150K worth of Yen from this time three years ago...not a bad
deal if you ask me!!


>
> They dont seriously think that anyone will give them $175,000 for a console
> they paid $75,000 for ? thats a profit of 100 grand !!
>
> What a rip off.
>

May I recommend that you not purchase the desk if you think it's a rip
off. BTW, I don't remember you mentioning how you made your
money...obviously some folks make it buying and selling
equipment...which would mean that if a buyer is willing to buy, and a
seller is willing to sell, and they can agree on a price...then, it's
not a "rip off" its a deal.


> We also wanted to find out more about this guy Tanner who does so much posting
> and claims to be the worlds expert on Neve consoles, as he would have been the
> one doing the work on the console.
>
> Once again we spoke to AMS and had difficulty in finding anyone who had even
> heard of him, one of the people we spoke to said that they (I quote) "... seem
> to remember him being a failed wireman, and they gave him the job of doing
> specials, as no one else wanted to mess around with odd ball bits..."


And your experience would be what if you had to ask people at AMS for
information on a company that failed to exist except in name 20ish years
ago...me smells dead fish...like someone with a bogus return address
that got beat out on the purchase of this desk...whaddaya say old boy,
did you loose out?


>
> I tried contacting the office of Phoenix audio to find they do not have an
> office, but use the phones of Grand Master studios in Los Angeles ??
>
> Now you know why we have suddenly lost all interest in the console.
>
> Marco Fellini

Actually, that makes even less sense...you aren't interested in a
console because Pheonix subleases space from a recording studio? Where
the fuck did you come up with that bit of logic...personally, if I were
you (which thankfully I ain't) I'd worry less about phone numbers and
addresses and profit margins and more about not sounding like a bitter
old poofter.

--
Fletcher
Mercenary Audio
http://www.mercenary.com

art

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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Zzyx123 wrote:

> We were quite interested in the console and when we heard one was for sale we
> tried to find out where it was.
>

> When we found out that Audio were involved we lost a deal of interest,


> but thought that we would still like more info and pricing on it as it may
> still be within our buget.

> Now you know why we have suddenly lost all interest in the console.
>
> Marco Fellini

Allo...is this fake name of certain crook-ed LETTLE man who sneeked into
NAB by lying about faking name tag under another company name who deed
not want him there? Allo..
is this also LETTLE thief who said he too poor to buy leetle space at
NAB but can now afford BIG meexer?
Allo..ees this little CROOK who ran away from us when we see him trying
to hide STOLEN name tag at NAB Show?
Allo..maybe LETTLE man want to meet me and tell me he no CROOK?

Maybee I just send whole email to AMS and we all see what happen? Maybee
I just send
whole email to Uncle Rupert to show him who his "partner" eees? Hokay?

Art

GOnzO

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Aug 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/4/98
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Y'know, posts like this can't go unchallenged. I've worked on consoles
commissioned by Mr. Tanner. They rock!

As for you, Herr Fellini, you need a basic primer on law. It's o.k. to
post facts. It's even o.k. to post lies, with a caveat. Should Mr.
Tanner show ANY loss of business or financial damages due to your post
he would then have an actionable complaint. There isn't an attorney out
there who would not take the case on spec, especially if you have any
assetts to make it worth their while.

Should there be anyone out there who has changed their mind about
purchasing from Mr. Tanner because of your post I would request them to
post it here. Should that happen, Herr Fellini, I would be VERY
uncomfortable were I you.

Sleep long and have many bad dreams, Herr Fellini.

Kind regards,

GOnzO


Zzyx123 wrote:
>
> Yeah there have been MANY rumours about it ?
>

> We were quite interested in the console and when we heard one was for sale we
> tried to find out where it was.
>

> When we found out that Phoenix Audio were involved we lost a deal of interest,


> but thought that we would still like more info and pricing on it as it may
> still be within our buget.
>

> We did a bit of poking around, as we were told that the console was for sale at
> a staggering $175,000 !!!!!
>
> We contacted AMS and after being passed from one guy and office to another we
> found out that the console came from a studio in Tokyo and that it was
> purchased for just $75,000 (converted from Yen ).
>

> They dont seriously think that anyone will give them $175,000 for a console
> they paid $75,000 for ? thats a profit of 100 grand !!
>
> What a rip off.
>

> We also wanted to find out more about this guy Tanner who does so much posting
> and claims to be the worlds expert on Neve consoles, as he would have been the
> one doing the work on the console.
>
> Once again we spoke to AMS and had difficulty in finding anyone who had even
> heard of him, one of the people we spoke to said that they (I quote) "... seem
> to remember him being a failed wireman, and they gave him the job of doing
> specials, as no one else wanted to mess around with odd ball bits..."
>

> I tried contacting the office of Phoenix audio to find they do not have an
> office, but use the phones of Grand Master studios in Los Angeles ??
>

Seve Catanzaro

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>
> Should there be anyone out there who has changed their mind about
> purchasing from Mr. Tanner because of your post I would request them to
> post it here. Should that happen, Herr Fellini, I would be VERY
> uncomfortable were I you.
>

Well, in all truthfulness, I've been communicating with Geoff via e-mail
re: a purchase and, as I have only cursory experience with him, and since I
know less about Neves than I do about women, that post did give me a little
bit of pause.

Steve

manna-dallas

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Aug 7, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/7/98
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On 7 Aug 1998 16:16:02 GMT, "Seve Catanzaro" <cat...@sprintmail.com>
wrote:

I also am in the market for a new console and had talked with Mr
Tanner a couple of months ago, it also gave me reason for pause, I am
certainly not saying there is anything wrong with mr Tanner,it just
made me stop and think. If there is no truth to the negative things,
were I Mr Tanner I would seek legal relief, for his livelihood was
definetly damaged. I would urge others to be very very carefull when
lampooning someone, it won,tbe long before there is going to be an
expensive successfull lawsuit from somesone. Mike

phoeni...@earthlink.net

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Aug 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/8/98
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In article
<E51E972048A7FCE8.891E4DC5...@library-proxy.airnews.net
>, manna-...@airmail.net wrote:

>
> >Steve
> I also am in the market for a new console and had talked with Mr
> Tanner a couple of months ago, it also gave me reason for pause, I am
> certainly not saying there is anything wrong with mr Tanner,it just
> made me stop and think. If there is no truth to the negative things,
> were I Mr Tanner I would seek legal relief, for his livelihood was
> definetly damaged. I would urge others to be very very carefull when
> lampooning someone, it won,tbe long before there is going to be an
> expensive successfull lawsuit from somesone. Mike
>

Hi

Just for the record. . .

I made light of that phoney posting because the gentleman in question has
also been slandering/libelling me for at least the past three years and I am
well used to it! I have a substantial file put together of letters and faxes
that he foolishly sent to people thinking that he could turn them against me,
quite the reverse has occured and he has made himself look an even bigger
liar.

Rest assured that the posting was the straw that broke the camel's back and I
intend taking legal proceedings against him. The gentleman in question even
lies on his web site because he claims to have left Neve in 1976 yet I was
there from 1971 onwards and saw no sign of him! Enquiring with my friends who
were at Neve, pre 1971, we believe he left around 1970.

It is very sad that he should have degenerated to using tactics of this sort.
Phoenix Audio have good relations with Brent Averill, Mercenary Audio, and
other "Neve related" folk, and there's just no need for these bitter attacks.
I had assumed that, if I left him with another rope, he'd hang himself.
Obviously I was wrong!

Geoff Tanner
phoeni...@earthlink.net

manna-dallas

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Aug 8, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/8/98
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So that I may watch out for him exactly who and where is the demon in
question and what is his problem with you real or imagined? Mike

phoeni...@earthlink.net

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In article
<D5FAC4E2ABA05B46.717AB53A...@library-proxy.airnews.net
>, manna-...@airmail.net wrote:

> So that I may watch out for him exactly who and where is the demon in
> question and what is his problem with you real or imagined? Mike

Hi Mike

On reflection I believe I was a little light with my reply to that malicious
posting so, if you'll all excuse me, I'm going to go through it again!

Subject: Re: FS: Neve 8088 40CH Console
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Yeah there have been MANY rumours about it ?

a. For a start Marco, you have an English phoney mail address and spell
"rumours" the English way so we know from what country this was posted and
education you had. . .

We were quite interested in the console and when we heard one was for sale we
tried to find out where it was.

b. Well Marco, you can afford to buy a classic Neve console but your name
cannot be found with any net search engine I've tried! I welcome anyone else
to try and locate this ficticious name. What studio do you represent? What
records have you made? Where did you get the money to buy this console?

When we found out that Phoenix Audio were involved we lost a deal of interest,
but thought that we would still like more info and pricing on it as it may
still be within our buget.

c. The poor spelling is interesting because it indicates someone in such a
fit of pique he can't be bothered to spell check. . . such venom! I have
never dealt with this Marco guy so why this animosity?

We did a bit of poking around, as we were told that the console was for sale
at a staggering $175,000 !!!!!

d. True, that's refreshing!

We contacted AMS and after being passed from one guy and office to another we
found out that the console came from a studio in Tokyo and that it was
purchased for just $75,000 (converted from Yen ).

e. Most definitely not true, it was purchased for a great deal more than that
and had to be crated, shipped by air, customs import duty paid, etc. All
details Marco neglects to mention! I very much doubt (and welcome
confirmation) that "Marco" was able to obtain contractural financial
information of any kind from anyone at AMS-Neve.

They dont seriously think that anyone will give them $175,000 for a console
they paid $75,000 for ? thats a profit of 100 grand !!

f. The sums are correct, the data isn't.

What a rip off.

g. Then don't buy it you silly old sod! Why even send this post? Go buy
another console!

We also wanted to find out more about this guy Tanner who does so much posting
and claims to be the worlds expert on Neve consoles, as he would have been the
one doing the work on the console.

h. Good idea!

Once again we spoke to AMS and had difficulty in finding anyone who had even
heard of him, one of the people we spoke to said that they (I quote) "...
seem to remember him being a failed wireman, and they gave him the job of
doing specials, as no one else wanted to mess around with odd ball bits..."


i. Oh my Lord, this is the easiest one to refute. Phoenix Audio purchase both
parts and drawings from AMS-Neve and there are plenty of folk still there
from the "old days" who also know me. e.g. Robin Porter, Ian Law, Phil
Townsend, John Turner and John Hughes in the UK and Nigel Toates and Tony
Langley in the USA. There is so much vindictiveness in this one paragraph it
screams envy from someone who had a lesser role to play.

For the record, I have been an Electrical Design Draughtsman, I was then
promoted to Head of the Electrical Drawing Office (which also made me
Assistant Chief Draughtsman under Chief Draughtsman David Langford), after
that I been a custom design engineer in Sales Engineering and then, with the
launch of the two divisions (custom and standard production) I was made
Special Orders Manager to look after all the custom work that didn't fit
under a large console catagory. The largest console we made in this
department was the 36 ch 5316 for Scottish TV (now in the USA!). We also
designed and made automatic programme switchers and talkback systems
(including one system for ABC TV). The list is endless! Up to that point
spares had been handled by Sales but, because of my knowledge of the design
of the equipment and components used I was given the role as Spares Orders
Manager with an extra staff member to handle the work. That girl (Paulene
Cox, where are you?) is the only one of my staff I've not been able to locate
for my Christmas card list! Jackie Shepherd (now Millett) took over her
position as Spares Orders co-ordinator. I compiled the original program for
working out the Neve pricing system (based on rulings set by the accounts
department!) On top of all that, I was made Special Projects Manager to
organize the construction of equipment not related to Neve products. For
example, we designed and built a huge 20' long vision mixer for BBC TV
centre.

I left Neve in December 1985 but have been involved with them, in one way or
another, ever since.

Is that the story of a failed wireman? Do my stories indicate a past that one
would associate with a failed wireman? Would any of my friends at AMS-Neve, if
contacted, describe me as a failed wireman? I rather think not!

I tried contacting the office of Phoenix audio to find they do not have an
office, but use the phones of Grand Master studios in Los Angeles ??

j. Well this is nonsense. Phoenix Audio International LLC is registered in CA
and rents office and tech space from GrandMaster Recorders. Their phone
number is 323 462 6136 and ours is 323 462 4373. As I work in the same
building I answer their phone if I'm walking through and they are handling
other calls. . . is this really a big deal? I can certainly vouch for the
fact that Marco Fellinni has never phoned either number.

Now you know why we have suddenly lost all interest in the console.

Marco Fellini

k. Well "Marco" you ought to be shitting yourself right now because I'm after
you, big time! I have been in touch with both AOL and agencies who will try to
nail your real name, and when I get it positively identified you are in for a
law suit that will give me little money (I don't think you have any) but a lot
of satisfaction for nailing you for this despicable act.

l. As noted above, I'm still actively searching for Marco and would welcome
any help with this task. I have a suspicion who it is but won't point the
finger on this aspect until I have the evidence.

On the other hand I will reveal that the file of libellous faxes and letters
I have concerns Derek Stoddart of Shep Associates. As to whether his problem
with me is real or imagined, it's not for me to probe his mental state but
the reality is that we got the 8088 and he didn't, we have won console
upgrade contracts which he didn't, and I've forgotten more about Neve
consoles than he'll ever know. None of this explain his actions in sending
those faxes.

I leave it up to the reader's judgement to decide why anyone would want to try
to ruin another company's business in this fashion.

Let's draw this one to a close folks, I'll keep you all posted of progress!

art

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
to Seve Catanzaro
Seve Catanzaro wrote:
>
> Well, in all truthfulness, I've been communicating via e-mail

> re: a purchase and, as I have only cursory experience with him, and since I
> know less about Neves than I do about women, that post did give me a little
> bit of pause.
>

Hello Seve:

I do NOT own any Neves, Siemens or Telfunkens. BUT...having spoken with
MANY people, I can tell you that MY opinion is that the COWARD who hid
behind the
ficticious name is indeed an UNTRUSTWORTHY and DISHONEST man. He
recently
snuck into a show under false pretenses using our company name and
started
running away when we spotted him. Also, I have a letter from AMS NEVE
stating
that this person does NOT have the authorization to do what he claims
that
NEVE allows him to do. Really, Seve, do you really trust someone who
can't
even post under his real name? How would you feel if someone slandered
you
under a false name? We are a small community here at RAP. Some of us may
be
eccentric, some may be more commercially crass but we all have a code of
ethics
because its a small audio world. Why do you think some are despised and
mistrusted? Because they do disreputable and dishonest things like burn
others.

Art Yeap

art

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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manna-dallas wrote:

> >Steve
> I also am in the market for a new console and had talked with Mr
> Tanner a couple of months ago, it also gave me reason for pause, I am
> certainly not saying there is anything wrong with mr Tanner,it just
> made me stop and think. If there is no truth to the negative things,
> were I Mr Tanner I would seek legal relief, for his livelihood was
> definetly damaged. I would urge others to be very very carefull when
> lampooning someone, it won,tbe long before there is going to be an
> expensive successfull lawsuit from somesone. Mike

Mike:

I think you and I know that even if I were to call someone a bozoed,
lying
scumbo with the morals of a little weasel, it would be hard to prove any
damages in court. If we all sought legal relief for any little flea or
mite, we would be forever tangled up in court and not be earning our
keep. Unless your are an attorney bent on practising loss-leader law,
you would find libel suits pretty tough and wasteful. Look at the Mackie
case. Even a non-Mackie-only person like me would have ruled in their
favor, but.... Your comment about lampooning someone...its a free
country. If you can believe the cheap talk of a coward who would hide
behind a false address, then either you are easily swayed by liars or
you believe the Hitlerian comment that if you repeat the lie often
enough, people will believe. Why is it that so many immediately were
able to recognize the writer of the post? Because they are only one or
two disreputable enought in our whole industry to do that. That in
itself speaks VOLUMES!

Art Yeap

art

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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art wrote:
<snip>

> Hello Seve:

Okay, R.A.P. people...I emailed a rely (same as the post) to Seve
Catanzano whose
email is cat...@sprintmail.com. Well...guess what... MAIL RETURNED!
USERNAME INCORRECT! Is this sEve another faceless person who does not
exist? Are we the subject of being scammed and SPAMMED by cowards? C'mon
guys. Critisism is WELCOMED in this group. But if ya don't have the guts
to have a real name, then maybe you shouldnt have the dignity of having
an audience.

I hope I'm wrong about catman, but I smells a fish here...and its
getting too stinky for my nose. What's going on?

Art Yeap

Rick Novak

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Aug 10, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/10/98
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Art wrote: .......or you believe the Hitlerian comment that if you repeat the lie
often enough, people will believe........

Whoa, Art!
Hilter was spot on about this, obviously. Never underestimate the enemy.
Cheers, Rick.

phoeni...@earthlink.net

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Aug 11, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/11/98
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In article <35CF53...@itvc.com>,
a...@itvc.com wrote:
> art wrote:
> <snip>
>


Whoa, Whoa, hold it guys!

I have no problem with Steve and we are talking with him about building him a
small custom console using our class A building blocks. He's one of the good
guys!

His email stevenc...@sprintmail.com works fine with me, that other
address was probably an antispam measure.

A couple of ps's to my last posting. . .

1. How did Marco, as a buyer, know that he had to ring AMS-Neve for (alleged)
info about the console? To anyone, other than one of the several brokers after
the beast and perhaps privy to this info, this was not a particularly obvious
route to take!

2. Marco, with a chip on his shoulder the size of a 6" x 2", stated that I
considered myself to be THE expert on Neve consoles. On the contrary, Marco,
my 14 odd Neve years don't put me in that position and even Rupert left in
'75 after (by his own admission) having less and less to do with their design
through managerial burden. I have never claimed the excess that you cast upon
me but merely do my best to freely offer information that I may recall to
anyone who asks.

For the record, I believe the "real" Neve expert must be John Turner of
AMS-Neve! He was there before I started in '71 and is still there now. . . I
bet he could tell a few tales!

Stay in the toilet Marco, we are getting closer!

Geoff Tanner
phoeni...@earthlink.net

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Steve Butterworth

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Aug 12, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/12/98
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On Tue, 11 Aug 1998 02:15:54 GMT, phoeni...@earthlink.net wrote:

>For the record, I believe the "real" Neve expert must be John Turner of
>AMS-Neve! He was there before I started in '71 and is still there now. . . I
>bet he could tell a few tales!

Yup, that's some innings! Through all the technology changes, good
and bad products, management hassles, takeovers, buyouts, company
politics, redundancies, back stabbings and enough shit to start an
organic farm in the Sahara. To keep at a cool engineering role
through all that takes some credit. Taught us all a few things
besides.

All the more Voltage on Pin H is what I say!!

(Early internal Neve joke: If a module or amp wasn't working and John
was consulted the first question he would ask was 'What's the voltage
on pin H,' with a Yorkshire accent 'Haich', 'Have you checked the
Voltage on Pin H'. It often worked! Wonder if that's the first thing
you check if your AMS-Neve Digital console starts to make farting
noises? Hang on there Mr Paverotti whatz ye name, was that you, or
should I check the Voltage on Pin H)

By the way, what's going down here? Don't understand the rest of this
post. I just got back to England. Guess I missed something.
Overstayed on holiday for 2 months as I found a cool place to hang
out.


Steve Butterworth
P.A.S.T.
Isle of Ely
Cambridgeshire.
England.

Tel: ++ 44 (0)1353 669903
Fax: ++ 44 (0)1353 669903

st...@past.demon.co.uk

Mark E. Rennick

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Aug 15, 1998, 3:00:00 AM8/15/98
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Steve Butterworth wrote:

I also got in late on this but I have one thing to say:I purchased a Neve 80
series desk with very dubious
representations. I was pretty fucked!! I had ,through this group, the fortune to

meet a Geofrey Tanner and than my situation got very good
indeed and by the way continues to be. If you want to hear
what this man has done for me and my Neve please call me.
Eugen...@aol.com
Mooka
707 795 7011
Prairie Sun Recording

phoeni...@earthlink.net

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> Yeah there have been MANY rumours about it ?
>
> We were quite interested in the console and when we heard one was for sale we
> tried to find out where it was.
>
> When we found out that Phoenix Audio were involved we lost a deal of interest,
> but thought that we would still like more info and pricing on it as it may
> still be within our buget.
>
> We did a bit of poking around, as we were told that the console was for sale
at
> a staggering $175,000 !!!!!
>
> We contacted AMS and after being passed from one guy and office to another we
> found out that the console came from a studio in Tokyo and that it was
> purchased for just $75,000 (converted from Yen ).
>
> They dont seriously think that anyone will give them $175,000 for a console
> they paid $75,000 for ? thats a profit of 100 grand !!
>
> What a rip off.

>
> We also wanted to find out more about this guy Tanner who does so much posting
> and claims to be the worlds expert on Neve consoles, as he would have been the
> one doing the work on the console.
>
> Once again we spoke to AMS and had difficulty in finding anyone who had even
> heard of him, one of the people we spoke to said that they (I quote) "...
seem
> to remember him being a failed wireman, and they gave him the job of doing
> specials, as no one else wanted to mess around with odd ball bits..."
>
> I tried contacting the office of Phoenix audio to find they do not have an
> office, but use the phones of Grand Master studios in Los Angeles ??
>
> Now you know why we have suddenly lost all interest in the console.
>
> Marco Fellini
>
Hi "Marco"

Time's up!!!

I'm a great believer in free speech and the right of anyone to hold whatever
opinion they choose. This news group is a wonderful collection of thoughts,
opinions, ideas and facts but if we want honesty in this business we must
post facts that are true and not just malicious libel, sent by a coward from
a phony email address.

This posting was sent to hurt both myself and my business and also casts a
shadow over the staff at AMS-Neve with the false declaration of conversations
with them on the above matters. Fortunately I have many friends and contacts
in the USA and I thank them all, sincerely, for their help and support
concerning this posting. Especially the help that revealed the following:

"The email address zzy...@aol.com was set up as a free trial on 16th July
1998 by:

Derek Stoddard
65 Garden Walk
Royston, Herts SG8 7JE
England

The account was cancelled by Derek Stoddart on 13th August 1998 after using
approximately two hours of the fifty hours free trial had been utilised. The
account's current status is cancelled"

So there you have it. This information goes in the file with all the other
libelous faxes and letters.

May I respectfully suggest that, should any individual or company come across
or overhear any derogatory information given out by this "gentleman"
concerning either myself or our business, the information should be treated
with a considerable portion of disbelief!

Geoff Tanner

phoeni...@earthlink.net
Hollywood, USA

Phone 323 462 4373
Fax 323 462 6137

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