Kid A
geek
1st listen: Nobody will like this.
2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
3rd listen: wow.
Sigh, the bar has been raised.
m.
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Jennifer
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Before you buy.
Michael Erwin
>wow.
>
>1st listen: Nobody will like this.
>2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
>3rd listen: wow.
>
>Sigh, the bar has been raised.
I had almost the exact same experience. Radiohead have simply solidified
their place as the best band in the world at the moment. They will remain
so for the forseeable future, or as long as they care to release records, in
my view.
Regards,
Michael Erwin
Matt Dixon
geek wrote:
> wow.
>
> 1st listen: Nobody will like this.
> 2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
> 3rd listen: wow.
>
> Sigh, the bar has been raised.
>
> m.
>
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> mi...@maldima.com
Seems like the people here are smarter than the people on the Radiohead
ng. I'd say half the things I read about Kid A there are negative!
They truly are the best rock band in the world right now, imo.
Danny Z
I was dissappointed at first, but after a few listens it really grows on
you.
It definitly takes you on a trip.
Can't wait to see them play in Toronto in a couple of weeks.
Danny Z
BlueTilt Studio
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kevin...@my-deja.com
> > 1st listen: Nobody will like this.
> > 2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
> > 3rd listen: wow.
> >
> > Sigh, the bar has been raised.
> >
> > m.
> >
Mike, very keen observation. I heard "The National Anthem" on the
local Chapel Hill, NC UNC student station, WXYC, and although almost
home, I had to drive around to listen to the whole thing. Wow is
right. I'll be ingesting Kid A(+) for a long time.
- Kevin Darbro
(insert obligatory url here)
--
"To be and not to be, that is the answer."
-->gie<--
>
>1st listen: Nobody will like this.
>2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
>3rd listen: wow.
>
>Sigh, the bar has been raised.
Same experience here....
I had to record a Radiohead concert for Radio just a week before the album
came out, and at first I thought they were gonna loose a lot of fans... but
after hearing it over and over they amazed me again.... This is f@cking
brilliant.... and so was the live show!
Go check it out!
BananaHead
>
> 1st listen: Nobody will like this.
> 2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
> 3rd listen: wow.
>
> Sigh, the bar has been raised.
>
>
> --
> mi...@maldima.com
>
Ya. Just about any record that is really good you won't particularly
like the first time you hear it. If you DID there would have been no
purpose in even making the record in the first place... cause it would
just be a familiar remake. First time I heard "Achtung Baby" I thought
it was kinda a hunk of junk, first time I heard the "Joshua Tree" I
though it was dull, and first time I heard "OK Computer" I didn't
notice the multitude of textures going on below the surface.
Orleans bound
> wow.
>
> 1st listen: Nobody will like this.
> 2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
> 3rd listen: wow.
>
> Sigh, the bar has been raised.
>
> m.
>
> --
> mi...@maldima.com
Radiohead and U2 make me like music.
Sound Designer
wrote:
> I agree completely; it definitely grows on you! Simply amazing....
> Jennifer
>
> In article <_NLC5.101289$47.12...@news.bc.tac.net>,
> "geek" <mi...@maldima.com> wrote:
> > wow.
> >
> > 1st listen: Nobody will like this.
> > 2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
> > 3rd listen: wow.
> >
> > Sigh, the bar has been raised.
> >
> > m.
> >
> > --
> > mi...@maldima.com
> >
> >
>
>
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> Before you buy.
At first I was sad - - then out of the clear blue I understood they were
brilliant. I actually remember the moment - - I am not sure of the
lyrics, but something about pouring fire on the animals - - I knew then
that Radiohead were smarter than the majority of their fans. I hope I
can keep up. :)
Jake Langston
wrote:
>At first I was sad - - then out of the clear blue I understood they were
>brilliant. I actually remember the moment - - I am not sure of the
>lyrics, but something about pouring fire on the animals - - I knew then
>that Radiohead were smarter than the majority of their fans. I hope I
>can keep up. :)
Call me insane if ya want... I think Radiohead is the best band ever
in there genre, and perhaps overall. I must admit, I like OK
Computer better than Kid A, and I've been listening to Kid A for about
three weeks straight - probably four or five times a day. It's quite
awesome, but OKC was a hard act to follow. As usual, I've overly
impressed with the producing on this album. Nigel, along with the
rest of the band, is absolutely brilliant.
BananaHead
Check out that bass sound on track 3 (I think it's #3 at least).
Balls! There are some Brian Eno solo project type tones on this record
also.
Neve 8068
the album and was amazed. And it also helped that I was loaded to chill out
with the disc more.-Mark
Prodmac
it. These guys are so brilliant. The album features lots of electronic
driven sounds but in a way more skilled musical approach than a dj would
have done.
I just love the album.
Mart
Kevin F Rose
(emotionally perfect and fresh)and autotune wasn't incorporated to fix
the vocals into sterile non-human dreck. Damn, will it be OK to allow
performance over perfection in the future?
--
Kevin F. Rose
"No the metronome is not slowing down"
David Carmean
>wow.
>
>1st listen: Nobody will like this.
>2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
>3rd listen: wow.
>
>Sigh, the bar has been raised.
Dig it. A lot.
But with all the reports of mispressings, many of us over in
alt.music.radiohead are trying to figure out what's up with the last
track, Motion Picture Soundtrack? The song as it's been heard live
runs to about 3:16, and then there's a little over a minute of
silence. At about 4:18, to about 4:31, a strange set of tones fades
in and then out, with a rather asymmetrical waveform. Then fades into
some "blippy" musical stuff, then back to silence again at about 5:09,
until the track ends at 6:59.
Does everybody else see this?
geek
print the "promo" pics that the band submitted. Pretty kooky stuff.
m.
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2.I haven't been able to connect emotionally to Kid A anywhere near the
way I did with OK Computer
3. Altough the production quality is excellent, the textures aren't
there in the way OK Computer was. The almost complete lack of guitar
and very little vocal lends me to think that they are either burnt out,
toured too much and tried to meet dealines, or intellectualized their
songwriting to the point of destroying anything remotely catchy or not
experimental.
BananaHead
Don't worry, they have a new album coming soon for the pop dorks. But
they couldn't be suck asses and do OK Comp part two ya know? They are
Radiohead not Britney Spears.
In the mean time listen again, there are some great things of interest
on there.
BananaHead
> But with all the reports of mispressings,
Well the black printing on my CD is just crap. I thought maybe they
did it on purpose, but it looks a bit too much like shit.
> many of us over in
> alt.music.radiohead are trying to figure out what's up with the last
> track, Motion Picture Soundtrack? The song as it's been heard live
> runs to about 3:16, and then there's a little over a minute of
> silence. At about 4:18, to about 4:31, a strange set of tones fades
> in and then out, with a rather asymmetrical waveform. Then fades into
> some "blippy" musical stuff, then back to silence again at about 5:09,
> until the track ends at 6:59.
>
> Does everybody else see this?
Yes, it's your standard secret track. Not much point to it, it's just
there. Also there is the secret 2nd book under the black tray. And
the book printing on clear paper is a pretty cool design idea.
-BH
This is the new wave Abandon ship
>I love the fact that some of the vocals sound like scratch tracks
>(emotionally perfect and fresh)and autotune wasn't incorporated to fix
>the vocals into sterile non-human dreck. Damn, will it be OK to allow
>performance over perfection in the future?
>--
>Kevin F. Rose
>"No the metronome is not slowing down"
>
>
I love the CD but I definitly hear a little autotune hear and there. It gives
me that feeling of being locked into tuning. I think it sounds much better
though then your usual idiot putting on the Chromatic functiopn on autotune and
leaving it on.
Jesse Cannon
REmove "pton" from my adreess for mail.
Paul D.
>Call me insane if ya want... I think Radiohead is the best band ever
>in there genre, and perhaps overall. I must admit, I like OK
>Computer better than Kid A, and I've been listening to Kid A for about
>three weeks straight - probably four or five times a day. It's quite
>awesome, but OKC was a hard act to follow.
It's quite a lot tamer.. They played Warrington a couple of weeks
back and their renditions of some of the tracks from Kid A were TONS
more raw.. like night and day difference. I prefer OK Computer too,
but both records are excellent!
S i g n a l . . . . .
Jake Langston
wrote:
>Don't worry, they have a new album coming soon for the pop dorks. But
>they couldn't be suck asses and do OK Comp part two ya know? They are
>Radiohead not Britney Spears.
>
>In the mean time listen again, there are some great things of interest
>on there.
I agree totally. I actually listened to Kid A with some 7506's this
morning (first time I've heard it with headphones). It nearly makes
me want to just lay my instruments down and give up, but them I remind
myself these fellas are in their 30's and they've been together since
high school. :)
In relation to their upcoming "pop" release, the much loved "Knives
Out" is supposedly going to be on it which leads me to think it's
going to be a bit more mainstream. Well... As mainstream as
Radiohead would ever dare to get.
JLangston
Nick
>morning (first time I've heard it with headphones). It nearly makes
>me want to just lay my instruments down and give up, but them I remind
>myself these fellas are in their 30's and they've been together since
>high school. :)
>
>In relation to their upcoming "pop" release, the much loved "Knives
>Out" is supposedly going to be on it which leads me to think it's
>going to be a bit more mainstream. Well... As mainstream as
>Radiohead would ever dare to get.
I'm still unsure about this latest release. I know its very clever and
it works well as a record, but I just don't find it as inspiring as
their previous affairs. As a guitarist I used to love some of the tones
and the feeling that they used to squeeze out of their instruments,
especially bits like the pure rage/tension on My Iron Lung and some of
the frantic playing of Electioneering.
Their previous albums don't sound as well engineered as this album is
though; I find myself disagreeing with some of Nigel G's decisions,
especially relating to the drum levels and possibly the dominance of the
keyboards in some of the tracks where they seem to remove some of the
energy from the other parts - I guess he made a conscious decision with
the band to be 'awkward' with the production, though it doesn't make the
record that hard to listen to, I _personally_ prefer to have a little
percussion and rhythm where the keys don't have the attack as they do in
the first track.
Ohh - and the vocal doesn't have the same variations as the previous two
adventures - it seems he over uses his 'singing whilst drowing on
oxygen' voice a little too much?
Listening to it on a hi-end hifi (upsampled to DSD (with dCS purcell
upsampler) using arcam alpha 9 and alpha 10 cd players and amps with
some accoustic energy speakers) it sounds a lot less glossy than most
records - granted, it doesn't sound as bad as 'the bends', but it still
lacks that high sheen that most cd's have - I guess its just not been
butchered as badly by the pre-mastering guys! Some of the instruments
seem to suff as well for possibly having, dare I say, lofi effects put
on them, lowing the quality of them.
Its growing on me still - just its not a 'in my car' cd really, more of
a 'chill out at home at night' cd. Bit of a shock I guess!
Nick.
<** and no, i don't work at hotmale - use your noggin! **>
brandon
Nick <lambc...@hotmale.com> wrote:
> it sounds a lot less glossy than most
> records - granted, it doesn't sound as bad as 'the bends', but it >
> still lacks that high sheen that most cd's have
Nick,
I've got young ears and a cheap CD player going into Event 20/20bas.
Does "the Bends" really sound bad? Asking for your opinion of course.
I was using that record as a reference for something that I thought
sounded good.
Brandon
nick
a degree with the guitars and the type of record it is - it sounds great
in my car, but when you listen to it on a high end system compared to
say, something arbitrary, I dunno, Sheryl Crow (not a huge fan I tell
you, but some of her tracks are really well recorded!) it sounds very
dull - I guess its because it has the high end rolled of quite a bit -
the bass isn't as tight as some modern material. I guess that its a good
record of its era - the whole stone roses thing going on then with the
guitars and the 'rock' engineering.
it depends whether you listen to music or listen for the music - I love
the album but when my ears get tired then I get slightly annoyed at it!
At the end of the day, have a listen to other *notable* recording
achievements - I won't name drop any for fear of missing someone out -
but the Sheryl Crow stuff (certain songs) does make me stop in awe on a
really good speaker system.
This is the new wave Abandon ship
warness of say the new fiona apple record. I also dont think they
intentiaonally made the new record akward the fact is if you have listened to
the people that influenced those sounds(Aphex Twin, Mouse on Mars and many
other IDM artists) you would ythink otherwise. If youre not use to hearind IDM
your gonna thinkj its crazy but honestly the only thing i found shocking weas
the emotional power they put into a very IDM record which is a genre that
usually just sounds like tricks with plug ins.
geek
that you hear on the last song could have been easily eliminated in the recording process. It's not like the got to the mixing stage
and went "Oh shit! How are we going to fix that?". I'm also sure that any "unpleasant" elements _were_ removed from the recording. I
find the same types of "organic" touches in recordings made by Brendan O'Brien. He leaves things in that suck you in to the
recording, help you "feel" the session. Knowing what some of the Radiohead selected instruments actually sound like, I also know
that there are a lot of shitty things about recording an Ondes Martenot that don't appear in the recording. To even imagine that
they "lit some incense, rolled up a big fatty and just let the vibe happen, man" would be ridiculous. Of course the don't have to
worry about being perfectionists in regard to their sound! They've got Nigel Godrich for that. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure a lot of
stuff on Kid A just "happened" but I think a lot of is a little more deliberate than they'd have the listener believe.
m.
On listen 20 something and liking it more and more.
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> > it sounds a lot less glossy than most
> > records - granted, it doesn't sound as bad as 'the bends', but it still
> > lacks that high sheen that most cd's have
>
> I read an interview in which a band member said that after Bends and OKC,
> they felt good about not having to be perfectionists in regard to sound.
> I think this organic quality is obvious in their choice of "outdated"
> synths from the '20s through the '70s. Perhaps you saw Jonny Greenwood
> playing a Ondes Martenot on Saturday Night Live? Or you noticed the organ
> pedals moving on the last track of Kid A. To me, this gives more depth to
> the quality of the songs. They're not about clinical reproduction, but
> about moments in time, captured emotions, & unfamiliar sounds that carry
> you out of the daily routine.
>
> Another thread discussed the future of rock and roll. This is the past
> present and future. It's not the instruments per se, or the song
> structure, or the recording. All are important, but ultimately, the
> artists share something we connect with.
Eleven...@yahoo.com
(one person wrote):
> > >
> > > 1st listen: Nobody will like this.
> > > 2nd listen: Everybody will love this.
> > > 3rd listen: wow.
> > >
> > > Sigh, the bar has been raised.
(another person wrote):
> At first I was sad - - then out of the clear blue I understood they
were
> brilliant. I actually remember the moment - - I am not sure of the
> lyrics, but something about pouring fire on the animals - - I knew
then
> that Radiohead were smarter than the majority of their fans. I hope I
> can keep up. :)
I don't know what to make of comments like this, but really, I don't
know that I would underestimate Radiohead (or other band's) fan base.
"Kid A" is selling well -- not that this means anything in terms of the
discussion here -- and there is a really strong buzz out on the streets.
A lot of music fans are speaking very highly about it. They're on a
major label, Capitol Records, so it's not like "Kid A" is some sort of
secret club. It's all over the radio, it's in all the stores -- even
Tower and Sam Goody's and The Wherehouse and all those other stores that
only seem to stock the Top 200.
A lot of music fans, including Radiohead's music fans, frequent
independent music stores that cater to experimental, electronic,
avant-garde, and independent releases that may sell in smaller
quantities, but are no less interesting. I just don't know that I would
make blanket statements about Radiohead's music listeners like this
personally, ya know?
Thanks for listening.
P.S. I like the release a lot!
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> it sounds a lot less glossy than most
> records - granted, it doesn't sound as bad as 'the bends', but it still
> lacks that high sheen that most cd's have
I read an interview in which a band member said that after Bends and OKC,
they felt good about not having to be perfectionists in regard to sound.
I think this organic quality is obvious in their choice of "outdated"
synths from the '20s through the '70s. Perhaps you saw Jonny Greenwood
playing a Ondes Martenot on Saturday Night Live? Or you noticed the organ
pedals moving on the last track of Kid A. To me, this gives more depth to
the quality of the songs. They're not about clinical reproduction, but
about moments in time, captured emotions, & unfamiliar sounds that carry
you out of the daily routine.
Another thread discussed the future of rock and roll. This is the past
present and future. It's not the instruments per se, or the song
structure, or the recording. All are important, but ultimately, the
artists share something we connect with.
Lyle Caldwell
are those awful people?" while I thought it was pretty cool.
It ain't rock and roll though.
--
Lyle Caldwell
Psionic Media, Inc
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This is the new wave Abandon ship
>synths from the '20s through the '70s.
Whats funny isd most of the synth sounds on that record are done on a soft
synth. Id be shot if I told which one. Some are real synths but almost all of
song is a soft synth.
du...@my-deja.com
WOW ALL this talk is making me anxious. I havent heard it yet but i am a
huge Radiohead fan...first time I heard Planet Telex I freaked
out....havent been the same since. I am gonna have to pay full price for
a change instead of waiting to buy used....i just about gave up on those
guys...I hope this record was worth the wait.
Dusk
Ericb
Kid A. I'm a 40 year old diehard music lover , musician, and Radiohead
fan, and very much wish they had a release along the same lines stylewise
of Pablo Honey, the Bends, and OK COmputer. If I wanted to listen to
electronic noise, I'd dig out my old Robert Fripp and Brian Eno albums! As
for Kid A, I do like the few songs with vocals , especially "Optimistic"
but don't care for the electronic sound fx stuff at all.
ERIC
Ilia Bisnovatyi
>of Pablo Honey, the Bends, and OK COmputer. If I wanted to listen to
>electronic noise, I'd dig out my old Robert Fripp and Brian Eno albums!
But Kid A is different. Different sounds, different song aesthetic.
>As for Kid A, I do like the few songs with vocals , especially
>"Optimistic" but don't care for the electronic sound fx stuff at all.
Funny, I thought it was the weakest song on the album.
Perhaps they should have made it into a single and not included it into
the album. Then we both would be happy.
- ilia