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JBL 4208 vs. Tannoy PBM-8 vs. Yamaha NS-10m vs. Alesis Monitor One

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Michael Fischer

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Mar 28, 1994, 11:26:24 AM3/28/94
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When price, quality, and flat response are simultaneously taken into
account, what is the _overall_ "best" choice in a SECOND pair of studio
monitors :

1) JBL 4208
2) Tannoy PBM-8
3) Yamaha NS-10m
4) Alesis Monitor One

Any suggestions/comments on any of these models?

Any other competing products worthy of mention?

Sincerely,

Michael Fischer

JKreines

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Mar 28, 1994, 9:24:07 PM3/28/94
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In article <fischer1-2...@via-annex3-19.cl.msu.edu>,
fisc...@student.msu.edu (Michael Fischer) writes:

Also consider comparing the Tannoy NFM-6... that's what I am considering
getting.

Lewis Melville

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Mar 29, 1994, 9:06:34 AM3/29/94
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Michael Fischer (fisc...@student.msu.edu) wrote:
: When price, quality, and flat response are simultaneously taken into

: account, what is the _overall_ "best" choice in a SECOND pair of studio
: monitors :

: 1) JBL 4208
: 2) Tannoy PBM-8
: 3) Yamaha NS-10m
: 4) Alesis Monitor One

: Any suggestions/comments on any of these models?

No two speakers ever sound the same, so flat response is a bit of
a nebulous quantity, although I suppose there is one brand out there that
is truly flat. NS10 are fairly standard, but a bit pricey. I got tired of
a slight distortion in the high end and purchased some Tannoy speakers
under the name Yorkville Sound and have been happy with these. They tend
to break up on the low end if one overpowers them. Both the Tannoy and the
Yamaha sound pretty boring, which is good, I think. On a professional
level, I most oftem see a set of NS10's lying around in every studio, and
rarely see the JBL 4208 or Alesis monitors.
: Any other competing products
worthy of mention?
Yorkville Sound ( made by Tannoy ) have two near field monitors
that are reasonably priced ( 200-300 in Canada ).
: Sincerely,

: Michael Fischer

a.stranger

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Mar 31, 1994, 1:29:48 AM3/31/94
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In article <fischer1-2...@via-annex3-19.cl.msu.edu> fisc...@student.msu.edu (Michael Fischer) writes:
>When price, quality, and flat response are simultaneously taken into
>account, what is the _overall_ "best" choice in a SECOND pair of studio
>monitors :
>
>1) JBL 4208
>2) Tannoy PBM-8
>3) Yamaha NS-10m
>4) Alesis Monitor One
>
>Any suggestions/comments on any of these models?

I have extensive experience with the Tannoys, some experience
with the Yamahas, and have heard the Alesis monitors. The Tannoys are
the only monitors of the three which I would even consider purchasing.
They sound *excellant*, especially in consideration of their low price,
and are as close to indestructible as anything in that price range is
likely to be. The Yamahas are fairly common, but *far* from flat. The
Alesis monitors are at best unremarkable, and seem to distort at high
volumes (well, it was either the Alesis monitors, the Alesis amp, or
the Alesis console -- I wasn't paying real close attention at that
moment).

-Craig Stuntz

--
_____ "I looked across the square and watched a tourist burning in blue fire;
|\ /| they had gasoline that burned in all colours by then. Look at them out
| O | there, all those little figures dissolving in light. Rather like
|/_\| fairyland, isn't it?" -Biosphere cst...@nova.eng.wayne.edu

Jim T. Rusby

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Mar 31, 1994, 1:36:09 PM3/31/94
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I've been using the JBL 4208 s and really cant complain. I tried the PBM
series and ran into a lack of highs in my mixes when played on other
systems (such as home stereos, walkmans, boomboxes and dictaphones).
These arent the best that can be purchased by any means, but for the
money I am satisfied. Most of my work is concert recording- jazz,
classical and such.

I have played my stuff on some high end studio monitors elsewhere and
found these monitors do tell me whats happening.

--
Jim Rusby jru...@darkwing.uoregon.edu

Bl00d

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Apr 1, 1994, 3:19:02 AM4/1/94
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In article <2n9cla$6...@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>, lmel...@uoguelph.ca (Lewis

Melville) writes:
: When price, quality, and flat response are simultaneously taken into
: account, what is the _overall_ "best" choice in a SECOND pair of studio
: monitors :

: 1) JBL 4208
: 2) Tannoy PBM-8
: 3) Yamaha NS-10m
: 4) Alesis Monitor One

First off, I'm a big Tannoy fan. I own 6.5's & JBL 4410's & 9 times out of 10
will monitor thru the Tannoys. The only reason for using NS10M's would be if
you were having a large number of engineers coming into your studio. Since
they are everywhere (like many other sources of annoying sound) they provide a
reference point (albeit a poor one). If this is not the case I recommend
6.5's. The only way is for you to run familiar program material thru them in
the environment in which they are to be used. Good luck in your search.

Thomas....@cs.cmu.edu

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Apr 4, 1994, 5:04:52 PM4/4/94
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Excerpts from netnews.rec.audio.pro: 31-Mar-94 Re: JBL 4208 vs. Tannoy
PBM.. Scott Dor...@grissom.lar (1127)

> >When price, quality, and flat response are simultaneously taken into
> >account, what is the _overall_ "best" choice in a SECOND pair of studio
> >monitors :
> >
> >1) JBL 4208
> >2) Tannoy PBM-8
> >3) Yamaha NS-10m
> >4) Alesis Monitor One
> >
> >Any suggestions/comments on any of these models?

I use JBL 4408's. I don't know how the 4208's compare, but I like my
44's. They can be a bit bassy at times, but I've not found it to cause
problems on my mixes. I got a great deal on them 6 years ago when I
bought them. I guess they don't make them anymore.

> The Yamaha is the worst piece of junk that I have ever heard in my life.
> They are an abomination of the highest order, and are responsible for
> shrill and offensive sound. I would not want one in the same state with
> me.

Boy, am I glad I'm not the only person who feels this way. I was beginning
to wonder, as so many people seem to really like their NS-10's. I hate
'em, and don't understand what the appeal is.

> --scott

--Tom

Scottzig

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Jun 1, 1994, 3:59:02 PM6/1/94
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>When price, quality, and flat response are simultaneously taken into
>account, what is the _overall_ "best" choice in a SECOND pair of
studio
>monitors :

>?1) JBL 4208


>2) Tannoy PBM-8
>3) Yamaha NS-10m
>4) Alesis Monitor One

>Any suggestions/comments on any of these models?

>Any other competing products worthy of mention?

>Sincerely,

>Michael Fischer

And the winner is....Westlakes!!!
They rule. I've used them all. Give 'em a try.

Scottzig

JeffL10651

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Jun 1, 1994, 11:17:02 PM6/1/94
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In article <2sipa6$2...@search01.news.aol.com>, scot...@aol.com
(Scottzig) writes: >>And the winner is....Westlakes!!!<<

Umm, when you consider that "price" was one of the criteria, I would
have to reccomend the Monitor Ones. I'm listening to them right now
(loud), and they are worth twice the price. Very flat, great bass
responce compared to the other monitors listed, and nice detailed
high end. Bring some CD's and listen to them.


Greg House

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Jun 3, 1994, 12:29:13 PM6/3/94
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In article <2sipa6$2...@search01.news.aol.com>, scot...@aol.com (Scottzig) writes:

I wasn't aware that Westlake offered anything even remotely
in the same price range as the monitors mentioned (< ~$450).
Have I missed something interesting in the low price ranges?

gh

Jatzen Boke

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Jun 2, 1994, 11:27:45 PM6/2/94
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Scottzig (scot...@aol.com) wrote:
: In article <fischer1-2...@via-annex3-19.cl.msu.edu>,
: fisc...@student.msu.edu (Michael Fischer) writes:

: >Sincerely,

: >Michael Fischer

: Scottzig

I agree Westlakes take the cake in terms of studio monitors, by far.!!

John

P. von Braunbehrens

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Jun 4, 1994, 4:34:38 PM6/4/94
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And stay away from anything ported, it's a real pain in the neck to
position in your studio (although I do love my pbm 8's)

PvB

JeffL10651
(jeffl...@aol.com)
wrote: : In article <2sipa6$2...@search01.news.aol.com>, scot...@aol.com


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Richard D Pierce

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Jun 4, 1994, 5:47:38 PM6/4/94
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In article <pbraunbC...@netcom.com> pbr...@netcom.com (P. von Braunbehrens) writes:
>And stay away from anything ported, it's a real pain in the neck to
>position in your studio (although I do love my pbm 8's)

Uh, do you care to enlighten us as to why this might be true? Unless it's
ported on the back, and thus cannot be pushed up against a wall, why
might you think this is an issue?
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Greg House

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Jun 6, 1994, 11:45:53 AM6/6/94
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In article <Cqw77...@world.std.com>, DPi...@world.std.com (Richard D Pierce) writes:
|>In article <pbraunbC...@netcom.com> pbr...@netcom.com (P. von Braunbehrens) writes:
|>>And stay away from anything ported, it's a real pain in the neck to
|>>position in your studio (although I do love my pbm 8's)
|>
|>Uh, do you care to enlighten us as to why this might be true? Unless it's
|>ported on the back, and thus cannot be pushed up against a wall, why
|>might you think this is an issue?
|>--

Presumably the poster was talking about rear ported. Both the Alesis Monitor
One's and the Tannoy PBM-8s mentioned are rear ported.

Greg

JKreines

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Jun 18, 1994, 2:09:02 AM6/18/94
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Anyone have an opinion on the new little Genelecs (1030As)?
Seriously considering a pair...


--Jeff Kreines

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