SSL EQ (brown/black/G???)
Mike Hartung
with history on this? Which ones are the favorites and why?
Thanks
Mike
Graham Hinton
Mike Hartung <mhar...@chello.no> wrote:
>What are the differences and characteristics of the different Eqs. Anyone
>with history on this? Which ones are the favorites and why?
Brown is the original 82E02, some people love it others hate it. It is a
reciprocal EQ, ie the cut and boost curves are mirror image.
Black is normally the 82E132 "P(ultec)" EQ. It is not the same as a
Pultec, but the boost widens and the cut narrows so it is non-reciprocal
and cannot be un-EQed exactly.
Orange is the "G-series" EQ retrofit which is an improved reciprocal.
Yellow was just to wind up Colin Sanders who hated yellow knob caps.
There are variations in the cut/boost circuitry, early ones were criticised
for jumping out of the detent or falling into it so the characteristic was
altered to make that more gentle. All of the cards may be changed.
There is a huge amount of waffle written about EQs, mainly it is just an
operator preference.
Steve Rhodes
black 'G-EQ'. (Both are called Black to confuse you even more)
The E-EQ has switches for bell/shell in the HF/LF, whereas the G-EQ has
switches for 'multiply and division by 3' for the HMF/LMF frequency section
instead.
I've compared them next to each other and found the E-EQ eats the G for
breakfast. I could not find a single application where the G sounded
superior.
The G sounded always flat and lifeless compared to the G.
I've matched the frequencies and Q shapes on an analyser and still something
sounded never right with the G in my opinion.
I'm just in the process of getting my G+ SSL desk re-fitted with E-EQ's. It
had G built in when I bought it. It's a decision I didn't take lightly,
because it's a lot of work and money.
The end of the day it's a matter of taste and I'm sure there are people who
prefer the G's over the E's. All I'm trying to say: The difference is huge!
It's not just an operational difference in frequency selection as I thought
first.
all the best,
Steve
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BlacklineMusic
>breakfast
The very first mix I did on an SSL was an E series with E eqs. I got a great
mix out of it and really liked the eq for the rock tracks. The second time I
used an SSL was on a G series with the G eqs. The mix came out much less
ballsy. I couldn't get stuff to work in the mix with those damn G eqs. Those
G eqs are crap compared to the Es. Agreed.
Fletcher
> >I've compared them next to each other and found the E-EQ eats the G for
> >breakfast
>
I've found the 'G' series EQ to do rather nicely on both Bass and many vocals...
especially female vocals... for any kind of "surgical" work... more than just
adding a little 'air' or 'thunder' they're pretty fuckin' useless... but can
indeed be a rather interesting texture in the right application... or so I've
found.
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"this is not a problem"
Steve Rhodes
I'm really struggling at the moment to come to a decision with my desk.
It's fitted with all G-EQ's, but I have the option from the dealer to
replace them with E-EQ's.
At ther moment I only have one channel fitted with 'E' to do some testing.
On drums and male vocals (mine) the 'E' is hard to beat. With the 'G' I have
to work very hard to get a result, but it's never quiet as good and
full/natural sounding as the 'E'.
With the 'G' I have to switch the HMF x3 and LMF /3 most of the time to get
a halfway decent sound thereby losing all the mid frequencies....
The 'G' shelf is almost useless IMHO. It sounded NEVER pleasant to me.
I found myself reaching for the 'E' with 'bell' pressed on the HF/LF most of
the time.
Anybody wants to swap some 'E' cards for 'G's? I already have 20 E-cards and
need 12 more.
My G-cards are almost brand new (3 years old).
I think I'll leave 16channels of 'G' in the desk and replace 32 with 'E's.
Sounds like a safe bet.
Steve
RME London, UK
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