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Henry C-G

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Jul 15, 2003, 8:13:57 PM7/15/03
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Can someone please phonetically spell out "lavalier" as in the mic?
Everyone I know pronounces it a different way: some say it like a french
word, while others pronounce it as an English word, and it's driving me
crazy!

-Henry C-G


ChuxGarage

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Jul 15, 2003, 8:25:51 PM7/15/03
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>Can someone please phonetically spell out "lavalier" as in the mic?

Lava-leer

Jim Kollens

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Jul 15, 2003, 8:32:37 PM7/15/03
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Henry: << Can someone please phonetically spell out "lavalier" as in the mic?

Everyone I know pronounces it a different way: some say it like a french
word, while others pronounce it as an English word, and it's driving me
crazy! >>

n-e-w-m-a-n (sorry, couldn't help that). I dunno, I pronounce it:
lah'-vah-leer' with the main accent on the final syllable (or do you say
sih-lah'-bill?).

tirrell payton

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Jul 15, 2003, 8:42:58 PM7/15/03
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la va lee yay
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William Sommerwerck

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Jul 15, 2003, 8:50:54 PM7/15/03
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soap + lewd look

Ron Charles

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Jul 15, 2003, 8:52:04 PM7/15/03
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lav-a-leer


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area242

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Jul 15, 2003, 9:02:28 PM7/15/03
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I concure...LAVA-LEER
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area242

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Jul 15, 2003, 9:03:55 PM7/15/03
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or:

Clip-On-Mike (phonetic...I know it's mic...so don't start)
:-P

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Engineer

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Jul 16, 2003, 12:42:12 AM7/16/03
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It's "la - va - lee - ay", from the french.

Cheers,

Roger
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Roger Jones, P.Eng.
Thornhill, Ontario,
Canada.

"Friends don't let friends vote Liberal"

Jim Kollens

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Jul 15, 2003, 10:38:33 PM7/15/03
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Roger Jones: << Friends don't let friends vote Liberal >>

Grrrrrrrrrrrr! Wuff! Wuff!

P.S. You ought to move down here to the States, you'd really like it! It's
great! Nobody even thinks down here!

Eric Griffin

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Jul 15, 2003, 10:58:20 PM7/15/03
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Yeah, but here in the Midwestern US, we speak Amurrican. :)

"la-va-LEER", rhyming with "Cavalier," which is not pronounced
"kah-vah-lee-eh."

--Eric

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George Gleason

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Jul 15, 2003, 10:59:45 PM7/15/03
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"Henry C-G" <HenryCGnos...@covad.net> wrote in message
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> Can someone please phonetically spell out "lavalier" as in the mic?

lav-a-leer
George


bja...@users.iwaynet.net

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Jul 16, 2003, 12:24:04 AM7/16/03
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area242 <are...@removeyahoo.com> wrote:
> or:

> Clip-On-Mike (phonetic...I know it's mic...so don't start)
> :-P

>> > > Can someone please phonetically spell out "lavalier" as in the mic?


>> > > Everyone I know pronounces it a different way: some say it like a
>> > > french word, while others pronounce it as an English word, and
>> > > it's driving me crazy!

Whassamatta? Nobody here own a dictionary? It's not a French
word, it's an English word. It is pronounced lav A leer. With
the accent on the "a". And BZZZZZT WRONG! Is NOT a "clip-on-mic".
A Lavalier is a pendant with a chain worn around the neck. Jewelry,
dig? Hence a "lavalier mic" is a chain that goes around the neck
and the microphone is the pendant. In this crowd that is an SM57 of
course!

You guys need to get out more.

Benj
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Mark T. Wieczorek

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Jul 16, 2003, 12:43:30 AM7/16/03
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"Eric Griffin" <e-tg...@comcast.net> wrote in
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> "la-va-LEER", rhyming with "Cavalier," which is not pronounced
> "kah-vah-lee-eh."

That's the best one I've heard yet. Like Cavalier. That's how my college
professors pronounced it. Lah Vuh Leer.

Regards,
Mark

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Johnston West

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Jul 16, 2003, 4:38:25 AM7/16/03
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jimko...@aol.com (Jim Kollens) wrote in message news:<20030715223833...@mb-m12.aol.com>...

> Roger Jones: << Friends don't let friends vote Liberal >>


Ha Ha! ....... that's a mis-print fuhrer sure!

As is this ..... http://www.coxar.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/

<< Friends don't let friends vote conservative >>

J_West

William Sommerwerck

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Jul 16, 2003, 4:55:48 AM7/16/03
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> Whassamatta? Nobody here own a dictionary? It's not
> a French word, it's an English word. It is pronounced
> lav A leer. With the accent on the "a".

Your definition exactly matches the Encarta definition, which indicates that the
principal stress is on the last syllable, not the first.

If Encarta is correct, the word is indeed French, derived from Louise de la
Valiere's name.

nuke

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Jul 16, 2003, 6:23:56 AM7/16/03
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According to my dictionary, la•va•lier lä-vuh-'lir

-Henry C-G >><BR><BR>
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JMo2864946

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Jul 16, 2003, 7:20:52 AM7/16/03
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" Lay bee a eeuhr " -George W.Bush

Erwin Timmerman

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Jul 16, 2003, 9:43:32 AM7/16/03
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Henry C-G wrote:

Since there seems no general concensus I suggest an entirely new
pronunciation:

Lava-liar, someone who lies about lava.

:-)

Erwin Timmerman

Eric Toline

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Jul 16, 2003, 9:59:23 AM7/16/03
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FWIW: Regardless of the correct pronunciation, film & video sound mixers
refer to them as lavs.

Eric

Claude Corbeil

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Jul 16, 2003, 10:35:02 AM7/16/03
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I concur entirely. A "lavallière" is a sort of neck tie named after miss
Louise de La Vallière, Sun King's mistress who was often seen wearing it.
The "lavalière" or "lavalière tie" was very popular amongst French artists,
writers and musicians at the end of XIX century. The pronounciation à la
française is la-val-yay. Someone here suggested a pronounciation like
"cavalier", witch makes a lot of sense.

Claude Corbeil

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William Balmer

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Jul 16, 2003, 11:06:00 AM7/16/03
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"Henry C-G" <HenryCGnos...@covad.net> wrote in message
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Like many other words it is French in origin but has been Americanized (at
least in the US, other places differ, including Canada, in which French is
more pervasive), thus LAV-uh-LEER. I live in Illinois, which used to be
EE-en-WAH. And Detroit was Day-TWAH. So regardless of how you say it, you
are no more right or wrong than the next guy. You're just showing your
background/up-bringing/preference. Sorry, but even in language there are
shades of grey (or is that gray?). Get used to it, or do as some others do
and call them body mikes (which DOES eliminate the previously discussed
lavalier/lapel mic confusion).

Bill Balmer

Richard Crowley

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Jul 16, 2003, 11:10:16 AM7/16/03
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"Henry C-G" wrote ...

"lä-v&-'lir, or "la-v&-'lir

If you go to www.m-w.com you can hear the word pronounced
(and see the pronunciation guide for the weird symbols.)

It is true that the original lavaliere mic was the size of half a
hot-dog and hung around the neck with a cloth cord. But now
that they are the size of the tip of your little finger, easier to
just clip (or pin) on the user. But the original name remains
(much like many other examples in the English language.)

Michael Drainer

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Jul 16, 2003, 12:05:46 PM7/16/03
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I just perfer LAV


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Charles Thomas

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Jul 16, 2003, 1:21:35 PM7/16/03
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In article <Eu1Ra.89574$TJ.47...@twister.austin.rr.com>,
"area242" <are...@REMOVEyahoo.com> wrote:

> I concure...LAVA-LEER

Yeah, but is the "a" in "lav" like the "a" in "have"

or is it like the "o" in "mob"?

I say the first is more common...

"lav" rhymes with "have" a-leer.

But some use lah-va-leer.

CT

P Stamler

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Jul 16, 2003, 2:45:34 PM7/16/03
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And Westbrook Pegler, in one of his libelous articles about Quentin Reynolds,
used "lavaliere" as a euphemism for "penis". Just thought you'd like to know.

Peace,
Paul
"Make Lav Not War"

Steve O'Neill

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Jul 16, 2003, 5:44:52 PM7/16/03
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The feminine form, then, ending in e would make the r pronounced, rather than
ending in eh. So the Americanized spelling has clarified the pronunciation.

Mike Rivers

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Jul 16, 2003, 9:29:11 PM7/16/03
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Since it isn't really a French word any more, I think we have to
accept the common "Lav-uh-leer"

Now how do you pronounce Lavigne, as in April? Same as "Levine?"


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Lorin David Schultz

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Jul 17, 2003, 3:53:40 AM7/17/03
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"Mike Rivers" <mri...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message
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>
> Now how do you pronounce Lavigne, as in April? Same as "Levine?"


It's actually "Avril," not April, and her last name is pronounced
"brat."

But seriously, it's what you said 'cept the first syllable is Lah rather
than Leh.

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...never figured on all this freakin' wire!"
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Mike Rivers

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Jul 17, 2003, 9:19:55 AM7/17/03
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In article <8CsRa.1372$46.2...@news2.telusplanet.net> LSch...@ctv.ca writes:

> It's actually "Avril," not April, and her last name is pronounced
> "brat."

Some people have great imagination when making up names. She's
probably really Alice Levine, from Joizey.

L David Matheny

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Jul 17, 2003, 11:22:03 AM7/17/03
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"Mike Rivers" <mri...@d-and-d.com> wrote in message news:znr1058447316k@trad...

>
> In article <8CsRa.1372$46.2...@news2.telusplanet.net> LSch...@ctv.ca writes:
>
> > It's actually "Avril," not April, and her last name is pronounced
> > "brat."
>
> Some people have great imagination when making up names.
> She's probably really Alice Levine, from Joizey.
>
Avril was probably born in the U.S.A., but I think Lavigne is French.
And if she says it's pronounced La-VEEN, who can say otherwise?


NewYorkDave

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Jul 18, 2003, 9:38:54 AM7/18/03
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The little clip-on mics we use in television are properly called
"lapel mics", but nearly everyone has taken to calling them "lavs" or
lavalieres. I don't think a real lavaliere mic has been seen on
television since the '50s or '60s. When I think of a real lav, I think
of Buddy Holly on Ed Sullivan.

Michael Drainer

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:26:43 AM7/18/03
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It just amazes me a simple little trivial question such as this can cause a
tread to go on for days!

"Henry C-G" <HenryCGnos...@covad.net> wrote in message
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> Can someone please phonetically spell out "lavalier" as in the mic?
> Everyone I know pronounces it a different way: some say it like a french
> word, while others pronounce it as an English word, and it's driving me
> crazy!
>

> -Henry C-G
>
>
>


Scott Dorsey

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:42:34 AM7/18/03
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C&H Surplus has real EV 637 lav mikes in stock! In the original packaging,
although the XLR connector has been weirdly wired for some government
contract job.

They are like huge pendants hanging around your neck. I am using one
this week on a fake documentary film about UFOs. They look and sound
just perfect for the job.

I think you can see a 637 in some of the "TV footage" sections in Woody
Allen's _Take the Money and Run_ but there are also some others done with
RCA pendant mikes.
--scott
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Charles Tomaras

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Jul 18, 2003, 10:46:46 PM7/18/03
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"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> C&H Surplus has real EV 637 lav mikes in stock! In the original
packaging,
> although the XLR connector has been weirdly wired for some government
> contract job.

Scott,

I can't find them on the C&H Surplus online store. Do you have a link to a
page where they are listed on thier site? How much did you pay?

Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA


Scott Dorsey

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Jul 19, 2003, 12:45:30 PM7/19/03
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Charles Tomaras <tom...@tomaras.com> wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
>> C&H Surplus has real EV 637 lav mikes in stock! In the original
>packaging,
>> although the XLR connector has been weirdly wired for some government
>> contract job.
>
>I can't find them on the C&H Surplus online store. Do you have a link to a
>page where they are listed on thier site? How much did you pay?

No, but they are in the paper catalogue. I think I paid $20 each.
Give them a phone call.

Charles Tomaras

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"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
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> Charles Tomaras <tom...@tomaras.com> wrote:
> >"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
> >> C&H Surplus has real EV 637 lav mikes in stock! In the original
> >packaging,
> >> although the XLR connector has been weirdly wired for some government
> >> contract job.
> >
> >I can't find them on the C&H Surplus online store. Do you have a link to
a
> >page where they are listed on thier site? How much did you pay?
>
> No, but they are in the paper catalogue. I think I paid $20 each.
> Give them a phone call.
> --scott

Are they packaged as new? Might be a nice gag-like Christmas gift this year
for my sound friends who will be reading this and now know what they are
getting.


Scott Dorsey

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Jul 19, 2003, 10:00:34 PM7/19/03
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Charles Tomaras <tom...@tomaras.com> wrote:
>"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
>news:bfbsja$9jr$1...@panix2.panix.com...
>> Charles Tomaras <tom...@tomaras.com> wrote:
>> >"Scott Dorsey" <klu...@panix.com> wrote in message
>> >> C&H Surplus has real EV 637 lav mikes in stock! In the original
>> >packaging,
>> >> although the XLR connector has been weirdly wired for some government
>> >> contract job.
>> >
>> >I can't find them on the C&H Surplus online store. Do you have a link to
>a
>> >page where they are listed on thier site? How much did you pay?
>>
>> No, but they are in the paper catalogue. I think I paid $20 each.
>> Give them a phone call.
>
>Are they packaged as new? Might be a nice gag-like Christmas gift this year
>for my sound friends who will be reading this and now know what they are

They are packaged in sealed brown plastic envelopes with government
inspection stickers on them, like a lot of surplus components.
No nifty EV boxes.

Sugarite

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Jul 23, 2003, 6:07:32 PM7/23/03
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I pronounce lavalier the english way, LAH-va-LEER, same as cavalier.

> Now how do you pronounce Lavigne, as in April? Same as "Levine?"

Avril Lavigne is clearly a french name, with accents on the second syllables
of both names, "ah-VRIL la-VINN" I'm from 20 minutes outside her hometown,
I guess that's a qualifying characteristic... Myself I prefer Aspirin
Lavigney.


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