Best Headphones for Recording
:::: ThA wiZZardø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤
vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
The current top headphone of my artist's is a set of Yamaha RH5M ($19.98).
Whatcha think?
Tha Wizzard
John Wheeler
Some really nice headphones are the AKG 240s - but they're not really cheap
(around $100) - but you can sure spend more for really good ones. You
definitely get what you pay for in cans though. I've found that lower grade
headphones tend to give me ear fatigue really quickly. You might, however,
try the Kenwood KPM 310 model if you want features for cheap; they're about
$35, play really loud, have as much bottom as you're going to get for under
$100 and have a built in volume control about a third of the way down the
cable. Fostex also makes some decent cheap cans you might check out.
A lot also depends on what sort of headphone amp you're driving them with.
The only cheap one I've used that sounds worth a crap is the Furman model, and
even it ain't exactly "cheap" (around $300 6-channels).
Cheers,
John Wheeler
William Sommerwerck
> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
> vocalists who like it LOUD.
It's a shame they aren't made any more, but the Sony MDR-CD6 'phones had
the unusual combination of _very_ high sensitivity and extremely high
power-handling capability. I could stand right behind the conductor of a
full symphony orchestra with these 'phones drowning out the direct sound
of the instruments.
Rob Bolling
it when you give them what they want. As far as the low end, they're balanced,
so you'd have to rely on some eq in the phone amp. Price $120-140...and worth
every penny IMHO.
:::: ThA wiZZardø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ wrote:
> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
Garthrr
<joha...@bellsouth.net> writes:
>:::: ThA wiZZardø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ wrote:
>
>> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
>> vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
>>
>> 01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
>> 02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
>> 03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
>> 04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
>> 05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
>>
Sennheiser HD 265. These dont have all the qualities you are looking for but
they have the important stuff. They provide good iso, go very loud, have hyped
low end and are more efficient than AKG 240's. They are expensive, $185 street
price.
Garth
"I think the fact that music can come up a wire is a miracle."
Ed Cherney
John Wheeler
You're right, the Sennheisers are wonderful - my personal cans of choice. I
didn't mention them due to the cat's price point.
Cheers,
John Wheeler
Nashville, TN
Ty Ford
>Garthrr wrote:
>
>> In article <35AC23AA...@bellsouth.net>, John Wheeler
>> <joha...@bellsouth.net> writes:
>>
>> >
>> >> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for
recording
>> >> vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
>> >>
>> >> 01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
>> >> 02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
>> >> 03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
>> >> 04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
>> >> 05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
>> >>
>>
>> Sennheiser HD 265. These dont have all the qualities you are looking for but
>> they have the important stuff. They provide good iso, go very loud, have
hyped
>> low end and are more efficient than AKG 240's. They are expensive, $185
street
>> price.
>>
>> Garth
>>
The hyped low end makes them pretty unusable. Any candidates for phones that
are uncolored?
Regards,
Ty Ford
Ty's commercial and narration demos are available at www.jaguNET.com/~tford. He
has also just uploaded an upgraded list of mic preamp reviews, production music
and SFX library companies.
William Sommerwerck
> Some really nice headphones are the AKG 240s - but they're not really cheap
> (around $100) - but you can sure spend more for really good ones.
I have listened to many headphones over the years. I have never heard an
AKG that wasn't either highly colored, or distorted, or both. The
original $1000 K1000 was a sonic disaster. (I have not heard the
"improved" version.)
William Sommerwerck
> Sennheiser HD 265. These dont have all the qualities you are looking for but
> they have the important stuff. They provide good iso, go very loud, have hyped
> low end and are more efficient than AKG 240's. They are expensive, $185 street
> price.
You might also listen to the Sennheiser HD 455. They're only $80 and
pretty efficient, but they are "open-air." They are probably the best
headphones under $100.
Rob Bolling
"closed" they are. If you turn up the volume, it will bleed. Closed will
bleed less than open, but they will bleed. Try ear budds with a sonic
protector, like for sport shooting.
:::: ThA wiZZardø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ wrote:
> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
> vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
>
> 01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
> 02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
> 03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
> 04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
> 05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
>
Brad Upchurch
there chose the sony's.. They have a number of advantages over the AKG's:
Much, much much higher gain (the AKG's are the most inefficient headphones I have
ever used)
40mm drivers
less coloration
much lighter design
far more comfortable for hours of recording (they actually fit your ears, not some
round crap design)
less leakage
longer cable w/gold plated 1/4" and 1/8", detachable (no soldering required!)
collapsable
cheaper! ($99) =)
> Some really nice headphones are the AKG 240s - but they're not really cheap
> (around $100) - but you can sure spend more for really good ones. You
> definitely get what you pay for in cans though. I've found that lower grade
> headphones tend to give me ear fatigue really quickly. You might, however,
> try the Kenwood KPM 310 model if you want features for cheap; they're about
> $35, play really loud, have as much bottom as you're going to get for under
> $100 and have a built in volume control about a third of the way down the
> cable. Fostex also makes some decent cheap cans you might check out.
>
> A lot also depends on what sort of headphone amp you're driving them with.
> The only cheap one I've used that sounds worth a crap is the Furman model, and
>
> even it ain't exactly "cheap" (around $300 6-channels).
>
> Cheers,
> John Wheeler
>
Fred Langer
William Sommerwerck <will...@nwlink.com> wrote:
> John Wheeler wrote:
>
> > Some really nice headphones are the AKG 240s - but they're not really cheap
> > (around $100) - but you can sure spend more for really good ones.
>
> AKG that wasn't either highly colored, or distorted, or both. The
> original $1000 K1000 was a sonic disaster. (I have not heard the
> "improved" version.)
>
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the people
> there chose the sony's.. They have a number of advantages over the
AKG's:
And I A/B'd my newly bought 7506's with my trusty HD560's, and immediately
regretted the purchase.
I got the 7506's because a lot of people talked well about them, but IMHO
they are inferior.
Far to pronounced mid/high-mid, and a severe lack of low end. Besides they
aren't even comfortable to wear... *s*
Even my AKG270's sound better to me, and they are also the ones I tend to
use for artist foldback.
Leakage is the only parameter where I would rate the 7506's as better...
Just my 0.02$...
Regards,
Mikael Thieme
Scott Dorsey
>
>And I A/B'd my newly bought 7506's with my trusty HD560's, and immediately
>regretted the purchase.
>I got the 7506's because a lot of people talked well about them, but IMHO
>they are inferior.
>Far to pronounced mid/high-mid, and a severe lack of low end. Besides they
>aren't even comfortable to wear... *s*
>Even my AKG270's sound better to me, and they are also the ones I tend to
>use for artist foldback.
>
>Leakage is the only parameter where I would rate the 7506's as better...
The original fellow wanted headphones for tracking. In this case, the leakage
is absolutely critical, and that exaggerated top end makes it easier for the
vocalist to hear what's going on. Admittedly it's not accurate, admittedly
it causes fatigue for long-term listening, but for the job, it's a good tool.
The Grados SR-60 sounds a lot better for less money, but I sure wouldn't
ever recommend it for tracking work.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Les Cargill
>
> I'll stand behind my Fostex T40's. They are a power hog, but they can handle
> it when you give them what they want. As far as the low end, they're balanced,
> so you'd have to rely on some eq in the phone amp. Price $120-140...and worth
> every penny IMHO.
>
>
> > I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
> > vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
> >
> > 01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
> > 02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
> > 03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
> > 04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
> > 05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
> >
> > The current top headphone of my artist's is a set of Yamaha RH5M ($19.98).
> >
> > Whatcha think?
> > Tha Wizzard
Since we're talking cheap:
I found a set of Koss TD/65 at Best Buy for
about $25.00. They have very hyped bass, but are pleasant
listening and tracking phones. Hardly accurate, but still
not bad sounding phones. Closed ear, but very light and comfortable.
They *are* mechanically fragile - there's a circuit board hooked
to the drivers which lost a trace in a fall.
Being at Best Buy, you can try before buying. Well worth $25.00.
--
Les Cargill - lcar...@worldnet.att.net
Chris Gieseke
>
> Arkadelphi wrote:
> >
> > <<Sennheiser HD 265 headphones>>
> >
> > another vote for the 265 for musicians out cutting, but not for engineer
> > reference...the low end is too hyped to mix with, but drummers and bass players
> > love them. For those who enjoy the absured, try Sony MDR CD 3000's if you can
> > find and afford them.
> >
> > Stuart
>
> What would be good headphones for engineer reference?
>
> Mario
>
> --
> To reply delete the "multios."-bit.
Check out the Radio Shack Pro-25 headphones. I got a pair a couple of
weeks ago after alot of recommendations on this newsgroup, and I must
say they are outstanding reference headphones. They are open air so
they are not good for tracking but for referencing music they are very
detailed and allow you to hear problems in the lower bass frequencies
that often near field monitors wont pick up. I like to eq bass guitar
and kick drum tracks using these headphones. I also often sometimes hear
little noises and things I never noticed through my nearfields which was
very interesting. I got mine on sale for only $20. Not bad at all.
Even at the regular price they are well worth it.
Bring a tape or CD of your mixes and check them out at a local Radio
Shack store (if there is one in your area or country).
Chris G.
Garthrr
writes:
>The hyped low end makes them (HD 265) pretty unusable. Any candidates for
phones that
>are uncolored?
>
>Regards,
>Ty Ford
Unusable for mixing certainly but I wouldnt say "unusable".
For some clients, especially blues bands, there is never enough low end and
those folks seem to love the HD 265. They are way bassy phones but some people
want that.
I have been satisfied for years with my AKG 240's although the leakage is
sometimes a problem if you are putting a loud click in the phones or something
of that nature.
Arkadelphi
Mithat Konar
wrote:
> The Grados SR-60 sounds a lot better for less money, but I sure wouldn't
> ever recommend it for tracking work.
And if they are anything like the SR-225, they hurt like hell after a
fairly short time (protestations to the contrary from the manufacturer
notwithstanding). I like the way the SR-225 sounds, but I can't stand to
wear them for more than half an hour.
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cai...@earthlink.net
":::: ThA wiZZardø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤" <XTra...@usa.net> wrote:
> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
> vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
>
> 01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
> 02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
> 03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
> 04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
> 05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
>
> The current top headphone of my artist's is a set of Yamaha RH5M ($19.98).
>
> Whatcha think?
> Tha Wizzard
>
Well, I use both the AKG 240's and the Fostex T-20's. The AKG's seem to be a
bit more open -eared than the T-20's and I find that everyone I work with
from voice over's to Drummers like the sound of the Fostex T-20's. There are
no headphones that I know of that have a volume control on the headphones,
that's what a headphone box is for. Both Models sell around $100 and I'm sure
they'll be better than your Yamaha's.
--Dan Towers
cai...@earthlink.net
cai...@earthlink.net
William Sommerwerck <will...@nwlink.com> wrote:
> John Wheeler wrote:
>
> > Some really nice headphones are the AKG 240s - but they're not really cheap
> > (around $100) - but you can sure spend more for really good ones.
>
> I have listened to many headphones over the years. I have never heard an
> AKG that wasn't either highly colored, or distorted, or both. The
> original $1000 K1000 was a sonic disaster. (I have not heard the
> "improved" version.)
>
I'm tellin' ya...Fostex T-20's are the way to go.
Scott Dorsey
>In article <kludgeEw...@netcom.com>, klu...@netcom.com (Scott Dorsey)
>wrote:
>
>> The Grados SR-60 sounds a lot better for less money, but I sure wouldn't
>> ever recommend it for tracking work.
>
>And if they are anything like the SR-225, they hurt like hell after a
>fairly short time (protestations to the contrary from the manufacturer
>notwithstanding). I like the way the SR-225 sounds, but I can't stand to
>wear them for more than half an hour.
Grab the band and stretch it out with your hands. It will take a lot of
force, and you might worry that you're damaging it, but it will make things
much more comfortable.
--scott
"It's like wearing a fifty pound earring"
-- Hallie, on the Westrex intercom
M. Beyer
What would be good headphones for engineer reference?
Benjamin A. Maas
Arkadelphi wrote in message
<199807160449...@ladder01.news.aol.com>...
><<Sennheiser HD 265 headphones>>
>
>another vote for the 265 for musicians out cutting, but not for engineer
>reference...the low end is too hyped to mix with, but drummers and bass
players
>love them. For those who enjoy the absured, try Sony MDR CD 3000's if you
can
>find and afford them.
>
>Stuart
I second the recommendation for the CD 3000. I found a pair at J&R in New
York for the small fee of about $550 (if memory serves me correct...).
Expensive, but the most comfortable, smooth, efficient, unhyped, airy
sounding phones I have ever heard. In the field, however, I usually bring
my Sony 7506s because the sound good and cost much less and I don't need to
worry about some moron accidentally destroying the 3000s.....
Benjamin Maas
Rick Novak
not too expensive. I prefer the T-40's to the T-20's only because they're
close-backed and bleed a bit less. They sound and cost about the same and are
my choice for cutting rhythm sections. They're louder, less fragile, and less
trebly/fatiguing than the AKG's.
However, the 240's rule for vocals because the singer's pitch will be better,
maybe because of the hyped highs? I wish AKG would make an identical
close-back version. Haven't tried the Sennheiser 250's or the Sonys everyone's
talking about. Are these close-backed and how do they sound compared to the
AKG 240's. I think flatter would be worse since the 240's seem to have the
perfect EQ curve for vox.
Cheers, R.N.
Arkadelphi
>
> Mario>>
The SonyCD 3000's are what I use, but the work only cause I'm learning them,
and you can do that with most of the phones that have been discussed
Stuart
cai...@earthlink.net
>
> I second the recommendation for the CD 3000. I found a pair at J&R in New
> York for the small fee of about $550 (if memory serves me correct...).
> Expensive, but the most comfortable, smooth, efficient, unhyped, airy
> sounding phones I have ever heard. In the field, however, I usually bring
> my Sony 7506s because the sound good and cost much less and I don't need to
> worry about some moron accidentally destroying the 3000s.....
>
> Benjamin Maas
>
>
But what are we talking about? I don't want to spend $550 on headphones and
have some idiot head-banging and sending them to the floor and then stepping
on them before he relizes they've come off....
gusk
Take it from me there is no cheap option I tried and tried to get somthing
cheap that would hold up in volume but there is not such thing. The Best cans
are Beyer DT200's and DT 250's. The 250's are padded, enclosed, sound great
and have replaceable everything and are rated at 100db. But the 200's are
better for drummers and can be driven louder are are rated in Watts not
milliwatts (big difference). The oher thing to look at is you headphone amp.
Depending on the Ohms of the cans and the amp could start to break up a lot
earlier.
Trust me Beyers are the ones. but they are $$.
Cheers
Gus
Arkadelphi
I got my CD 3000 at a Sony outlet for $235, but it cost me $220 to have one
side replaced after i let a drummer use them.....my own fault. So yes, these
are outside the performance and $$ norm, but they are good.
Stuart
rjs...@calcube.com
>
> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
> vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
>
> 01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
> 02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
> 03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
> 04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
> 05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
>
> The current top headphone of my artist's is a set of Yamaha RH5M ($19.98).
>
> Whatcha think?
> Tha Wizzard
Well TAZZ (unencrypted?),
Whatcha think?;) For about as many responses as you've received
regarding "cans", you've gotten almost as many different suggestions. In
the case of this vocalist, it sure sounds like clamping a set of
Auratone cubes to his head and having him sit on a subwoofer ought'a do
the trick. My feeling is that if the vocalist consistently likes it
LOUD, any headphone will do since their hearing is probably shot anyway.
Besides, you can always dup a second copy of the mix and hype it for
them later.
On a more serious note, headphones are a *very* personal choice due to
their binaural reproduction. With monitors, both ears hear both speakers
(stereophonic), but obviously this is not the case with 'phones. This
really exaggerates the case of aural sensitivity and cognition since no
two individuals hear (or think) alike, and there can even be a L/R
imbalance of sensitivity for *an* individual. IOW, no matter what anyone
suggests, you're going to have to 'see/hear for yourself', or better
yet, take your vocalist on a headphone shopping spree and you'll be
guaranteed to get the perfect set.....................................
until morning. Best of luck.
--
Robert J. Salvi, Ambiance Acoustics
California Cube Loudspeaker System
http://www.calcube.com
San Diego, CA USA
619-485-7514
Rick Dior
>
> Arkadelphi wrote:
> >
> >
> > another vote for the 265 for musicians out cutting, but not for engineer
> > reference...the low end is too hyped to mix with, but drummers and bass players
> > love them. For those who enjoy the absured, try Sony MDR CD 3000's if you can
> > find and afford them.
> >
> > Stuart
>
>
> Mario
>
> To reply delete the "multios."-bit.
I like to use 3 diff. phones for checking mixes & location recording.
The Sennheiser HD600's (Dynamic Phones -about $350) and the Stax
Lamdas(Electrostatics and about $1700.00) are great for checking for
unwanted noise, especially on classical location recordings. The AKG
240s are the old standby but do yourself a favor and purchase a good
headphone amplifier as the phone out on most gear is not very good and
the 240's are 600ohm phones(it takes more to drive them to hotter
levels).
Rick Dior
Erin & Dedric Terry
design - large diaphragm), very clear and flat response (listed at 20 to
27k). I think I last saw them for around $200. Just my opinion - there
may be other preferrable models depending on your application.
Dedric
Key of D Productions
Ty Ford
Thanks Dedric,
My OLD K240 used to sound this way. I sent one pair back to AKG for a repair
and they did me the "favor" of replacing the drivers. WAY too much bottom.
I'll havre to try the 500 to see if they've returned to flatness.
Regards,
Ty Ford
Ty's commercial and narration demos are available at www.jaguNET.com/~tford. He
has also just uploaded an upgraded list of mic preamp reviews, production music
and SFX library companies.
Crease
very flat response, great low end, and allow for good spatial
perception of reverbs etc. I find them very good for monitoring and
haven't had any ear fatique problems with them. $300 list, but you
can get them for $199.
Crease
To e-mail me, replace "NOSPAM" with "crease".
deejay
>
> I find I'm constantly searching for the "perfect" set of cans for recording
> vocalists who like it LOUD. My ideal headphones would feature:
>
> 01. Closed ear (to totally eliminate leakage)
> 02. Super hyped low-end (helps the vocalist to "feel it")
> 03. Detachable cable connected only at one end (to minimize distraction)
> 04. Low price (in case they need to be replaced)
> 05. Adjustable volume per ear (to let them balance levels as needed)
>
> The current top headphone of my artist's is a set of Yamaha RH5M ($19.98).
>
> Whatcha think?
> Tha Wizzard
Pamela Hughes
gusk wrote:
> Hi
>
> Take it from me there is no cheap option I tried and tried to get somthing
> cheap that would hold up in volume but there is not such thing. The Best cans
> are Beyer DT200's and DT 250's. The 250's are padded, enclosed, sound great
> and have replaceable everything and are rated at 100db. But the 200's are
> better for drummers and can be driven louder are are rated in Watts not
> milliwatts (big difference). The oher thing to look at is you headphone amp.
> Depending on the Ohms of the cans and the amp could start to break up a lot
> earlier.
>
Haven't seen the DT250's but I'm looking for a good set of cans. Mostly for
monitoring vocals and accoustic guitar as well as general HiFi listening. Don't
want enhanced bass, just a nice accurate response (a slightly warm mid-range for
vocals might be acceptable) and comfort. Budget about $300.00 tops. So far I've
been looking at:
Grado SR325
Sennheiser HD580
AKG K270
AKG K500
AKG K240M or DF
Beyer DT990
Beyer DT770
Audio Technica M40
Koss a/250
Sony MDR F1
Sony MDR CD1700
Yamaha XXR H40M
Can anyone tell me how any of these compare to each other and help me pare down
the list? Or, suggest something else that I should consider (besides Grado
RS-1's, can't afford them)
Thanks,
Thomas Lee
William Sommerwerck
> Haven't seen the DT250's but I'm looking for a good set of cans. Mostly for
> monitoring vocals and accoustic guitar as well as general HiFi listening. Don't
> want enhanced bass, just a nice accurate response (a slightly warm mid-range for
> vocals might be acceptable) and comfort. Budget about $300.00 tops. So far I've
> been looking at:
> Grado SR325
> Sennheiser HD580
> AKG K270
> AKG K500
> AKG K240M or DF
> Beyer DT990
From direct experience...
AKG headphones are either distorted, highly colored, or both. I've never
heard one I liked, at any price. Buy with extreme caution.
The Beyer DT990 is good, but I think the Sennheiser HD580 is more
transparent and has a somewhat wider bandwidth.
Grado headphones have a subjectively flat response, but they're overly
"forward" in the midrange (for my taste). They're rather "clunky," too.
The Sennheiser HD 580 is one of the great headphones. If you want
accuracy, these deliver. They're very, very comfortable. They're less
efficient than most phones, though, and they don't seal. But you'll love
them when you're just listening to music.
I might also add that they're easy to repair, and Sennheiser doesn't
gouge. (A complete set of parts costs as much as the list price of the
phones.) They should be at the top of your short list.
Anonymous
Definitely go with the Beyer headphones (DT770), but the Audio Technicas
are a cheaper alternative...
Pamela Hughes
William Sommerwerck wrote:
> Grado headphones have a subjectively flat response, but they're overly
> "forward" in the midrange (for my taste). They're rather "clunky," too.
>
> The Sennheiser HD 580 is one of the great headphones. If you want
> accuracy, these deliver. They're very, very comfortable. They're less
> efficient than most phones, though, and they don't seal. But you'll love
> them when you're just listening to music.
>
Thanks for the sugggestion. Was rather leaning toward the HD580's but they looked so
strange I wasn't sure they'd be comfortable. Non sealing isn't so important since I
only make cheap demo tapes for an itinerant songwriter friend and I usuall set her up
in a different room so leakage really isn't a problem. Hadn't heard anyone mention
the Beyer or the Grado 325 before, but then they're not exactly common in my neck of
the woods either.--
Roger W. Norman
of the East Coast Jazz Festival in February with no ear fatigue at all. I
don't know that I'd recommend them for talent in a studio as they are too
expensive (about $185 street), but in this case they were perfect. My
normal studio cans (engineering, that is) are Beyer DT770s, and I use
anything from AT ATH3As to Fostex T-20s for the talent running off Oz Audio
QMix's.
Roger W. Norman
SirMusic Studio
RNo...@CSI.com
Ty Ford wrote:
>The hyped low end makes them pretty unusable. Any candidates for phones
Pamela Hughes
Chris wrote:
> >>> The Sennheiser HD 580 is one of the great headphones. If you want
> > > accuracy, these deliver. They're very, very comfortable.
>
> > Was rather leaning toward the HD580's but they looked so
> > strange I wasn't sure they'd be comfortable.
>
> Do they look stranger than your ears?
Most definitely! I'm just familiar with the old padded band things with the
metal adjuster bars and such. Never tried one of those carbon fiber barettes
before so I thought I'd better ask before dumpting a bunch of cash on something
I couldn't stand having clamped to me head for 4 hours at a stretch.
> If William says they're very, very comfortable, the Beyer DT 990 are very,
> very, very comfortable. To be specific: a little lighter (I think) and less
> "clamp".
>
Was looking at the Beyer's too... wow, some of those things have quite a
bandwidth on them! 5 to 30k or something like that. If I need a second set
of phones, I'll have to give them a try.
Thanx,
snarfdude
>The Sennheiser HD 580 is one of the great headphones. If you want
>efficient than most phones, though, and they don't seal. But you'll love
>them when you're just listening to music.
I greatly agree.....I live in a apartment...and I was someone who was
taught to respect others...unlike some of my neighbors, so, when I was
doing the radio thing, about 11 years ago, I bought a pair of
sennheiser HD 414 SL's.....they are my main speaker system on my home
system (which is more of a two track radio studio...on a "how cheap
can I do it" budget...and I have a pair of 410's for my amp hooked to
my computer...the disadvantage with them is that they have a 600 ohm
impedience..which you need a fair bit of power to drive them decently,
and they are open air..which can cause feedback..though i haven't had
much of a problem when I turn on a mic, but they are beautiful for
sound, and very easy to wear for general listening, are also rugged,
and lots of the parts are user replaceable......I assume that other
sennheiser models are equally as good.....I wouldn't use anything
else!!!
SD!
Chris
> > accuracy, these deliver. They're very, very comfortable.
> Was rather leaning toward the HD580's but they looked so
> strange I wasn't sure they'd be comfortable.
Do they look stranger than your ears?
If William says they're very, very comfortable, the Beyer DT 990 are very,
very, very comfortable. To be specific: a little lighter (I think) and less
"clamp".
Chris
William Sommerwerck
It's importanat to remember that people's heads vary in shape. You need
to try on a pair of 'phones to see whether they are comfortable on
_your_ head.