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Dirk Bruere

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Mar 20, 2006, 8:23:59 PM3/20/06
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Does anyone do a s/w 31 band EQ that will do room EQ automatically?

Dirk

Scott Dorsey

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Mar 20, 2006, 8:36:50 PM3/20/06
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Dirk Bruere <dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>Does anyone do a s/w 31 band EQ that will do room EQ automatically?

The notion of "automatic room EQ" is a horribly misguided one.

There are times when room EQ can be a good idea. But using a 31-band
equalizer and setting the faders to get flat response at one (or three)
points in the room is going to do more harm than good.

You cannot avoid using your ears.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Dirk Bruere

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Mar 20, 2006, 8:50:44 PM3/20/06
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Dirk Bruere <dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Does anyone do a s/w 31 band EQ that will do room EQ automatically?
>
>
> The notion of "automatic room EQ" is a horribly misguided one.
>
> There are times when room EQ can be a good idea. But using a 31-band
> equalizer and setting the faders to get flat response at one (or three)
> points in the room is going to do more harm than good.
>
> You cannot avoid using your ears.

True, but some people will pay for this feature at the point where they
are sitting.

Dirk

Chris Hornbeck

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Mar 20, 2006, 9:03:44 PM3/20/06
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:50:44 +0000, Dirk Bruere
<dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:

>True, but some people will pay for this feature at the point where they
>are sitting.

Well, must be Full Moon. No need to go out back and look up.

Chris Hornbeck

Kalman Rubinson

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Mar 20, 2006, 9:20:38 PM3/20/06
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On 20 Mar 2006 20:36:50 -0500, klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>You cannot avoid using your ears.

And yet hordes of people seem to do so.

Kal


Agent 86

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Mar 20, 2006, 8:32:02 PM3/20/06
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Dirk Bruere wrote:

> Does anyone do a s/w 31 band EQ that will do room EQ automatically?

Sorry to break the news to you. There's no electronic device that will do
room EQ period, automatically or otherwise.

Scott Dorsey

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Mar 20, 2006, 10:15:06 PM3/20/06
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If there's only one person in the room, the room is probably too small
to benefit from room EQ anyway. Room EQ is what you do for PA when you have
a big room and a small amount of time.

Ray Thomas

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Mar 21, 2006, 3:24:49 AM3/21/06
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Dirk,
Free download trial.....this software will do the analysis....after that you
do the finger work, and take the rap if its wrong for the room. I take it
you'll do this in the room before the audience arrives ......hmmm ?
http://www.siasoft.com/

Ray
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Dirk Bruere

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Mar 21, 2006, 6:13:04 AM3/21/06
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Scott Dorsey wrote:
> Dirk Bruere <dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Scott Dorsey wrote:
>>
>>>Dirk Bruere <dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Does anyone do a s/w 31 band EQ that will do room EQ automatically?
>>>
>>>The notion of "automatic room EQ" is a horribly misguided one.
>>>
>>>There are times when room EQ can be a good idea. But using a 31-band
>>>equalizer and setting the faders to get flat response at one (or three)
>>>points in the room is going to do more harm than good.
>>>
>>>You cannot avoid using your ears.
>>
>>True, but some people will pay for this feature at the point where they
>>are sitting.
>
>
> If there's only one person in the room, the room is probably too small
> to benefit from room EQ anyway. Room EQ is what you do for PA when you have
> a big room and a small amount of time.
> --scott

Or a big room with one very rich person in it who likes tweaking stuff.

Dirk

Dirk Bruere

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Mar 21, 2006, 6:18:00 AM3/21/06
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Thanks, but I'm already aware of such s/w and use it.
I was looking for something along the lines of this:
http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/products/product.aspx?ID=4&sid=320i273f
But without the speakers or $3000+ price tag

Dirk

Mike Rivers

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Mar 21, 2006, 8:15:46 AM3/21/06
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Dirk Bruere wrote:

> Or a big room with one very rich person in it who likes tweaking stuff.

I'll do it automaticaly for you, but you have to be both rich and
generous, and be willing to accept a "no guarantee" job.

I actually thinkk I recall an audiophile product that I saw at CES a
few years ago that did what you're looking for. You might brave the
rec.audio.highend (or however it's spelled) or a home theater
newsgroup. You might find more readers sympathetic to your quest.

Ty Ford

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Mar 21, 2006, 9:28:20 AM3/21/06
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On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:23:59 -0500, Dirk Bruere wrote
(in article <48934cF...@individual.net>):

> Does anyone do a s/w 31 band EQ that will do room EQ automatically?
>
> Dirk

only if you want automatically bad.

Regards,

Ty

-- Ty Ford's equipment reviews, audio samples, rates and other audiocentric
stuff are at www.tyford.com

Scott Dorsey

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Mar 21, 2006, 10:12:53 AM3/21/06
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Dirk Bruere <dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:
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>Or a big room with one very rich person in it who likes tweaking stuff.

You want that, give him an Agilent FFT analyzer, or the smaller Ono Sokki
and a parametric EQ. Let him have at it. He might even get it to sound
better (although that's unlikely), and he'll have a lot of fun in the
meantime.

Kalman Rubinson

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Mar 21, 2006, 10:29:55 AM3/21/06
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On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:18:00 +0000, Dirk Bruere
<dirk....@gmail.com> wrote:


>Thanks, but I'm already aware of such s/w and use it.
>I was looking for something along the lines of this:
>http://www.velodyne.com/velodyne/products/product.aspx?ID=4&sid=320i273f
>But without the speakers or $3000+ price tag

First, Velodyne sells the EQ separately as the SMS-1.
Second, the AutoEQ on these is significantly compromised compared with
their manual EQ procedure.
Third, EQ is restricted to the bass (and that's a good thing).

Kal

Scott Fraser

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Mar 22, 2006, 1:13:23 AM3/22/06
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<<Thanks, but I'm already aware of such s/w and use it. >>

Well, there's your answer then.

Scott Fraser

Skler

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Mar 25, 2006, 4:48:36 PM3/25/06
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Don't use "room EQ". It doesn't work and actually creates problems that
could translate into bad mixes.

I would recommend using near field monitors and learn how to implement
minimal acoustic treatment with optimal speaker and listener positioning.

Here are a couple of books offering a comprehensive yet practical look of
control room acoustics, with applications:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0070213828/qid=1143322943/sr=2-2/ref=pd_bbs
_b_2_2/002-2517943-2947212?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0071360972/qid=1143322943/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs
_b_2_1/002-2517943-2947212?s=books&v=glance&n=283155

Skler
Austin, Tejas


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