need a better monitor!!
Camelot
then don't sound good in the car. This has happened time and time again and
I'm wondering what the solution might be. I can eventually get it right,
but not before heading back and forth maybe five times, and I get tired of
having to always head out to the car to double check results. Is there
anything else I can do indoors to double check the mix quality-- a different
pair of headphones, a recommended boombox, etc etc?
My cars both use Ford/ Sable systems with standard speaker orientation.
Each car is four door, one is a stationwagon (Taurus) and the other Sable
car. They both respond slightly differently with the Taurus significantly
emphasizing highs over bass and the Sable more balanced, but often mixes are
much harsher than in the headphones until they are right! Just wondering if
there was something I could do indoors so I wouldn't have to keep running
between cars to check mixes.
Thank you.
Don Pearce
Study the mixes that sound good in the car until you understand what
makes them sound that way. Change things one at a time until you
identify what it is that makes the difference, then make all your
mixes that way.
But you must understand that trying out mixes on various kinds of
music system is part of the job.
d
Scott Dorsey
>I creates mixes that sound fine in the headphones (I use Sony MDR-V6's) but
>then don't sound good in the car. This has happened time and time again and
>I'm wondering what the solution might be. I can eventually get it right,
>but not before heading back and forth maybe five times, and I get tired of
>having to always head out to the car to double check results. Is there
>anything else I can do indoors to double check the mix quality-- a different
>pair of headphones, a recommended boombox, etc etc?
This, in short, is why you can't really mix on headphones.
The headphones have very different imaging than speakers, and they tend to
make everything much more forward. On top of that the V6es are very peaky
on the top which tends to make the sound even more forward. If you set a
mix up so it's balanced on those, it won't be balanced on speakers.
You need to mix on a good set of monitors.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Laurence Payne
You're not mixing ONLY on headphones I hope?
One good trick is to turn your monitor speakers up medium loud and go
to the next room. Balance problems often leap out at you.
Part of the process is to try the mix on different systems - your
"good" monitors, a boombox, domestic hi-fi, car system.... But
after "time and time again" you should be learning what balance on
your monitors translates into a portable mix.
Sean Conolly
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> On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 06:34:02 -0500, "Camelot" <no...@none.net> wrote:
> One good trick is to turn your monitor speakers up medium loud and go
> to the next room. Balance problems often leap out at you.
A variation on that is to turn the volume down, way down, and make sure you
can still hear all of the parts clearly.
Sean
Badmuts
> having to always head out to the car to double check results. Is there
> anything else I can do indoors to double check the mix quality
Check your mix on small speakers, not headphones. Maybe NS10m's or Auratones
are good speakers for you - but just use them for checking your mixes, not
for doing all your mixing work on them (unless you are so experienced that
you know the behaviour of these speakers inside and out). If you're on a
budget, try laptop builtin speakers or the least crappy pc speakers you can
find.
I have an FM transmitter in my studio, great for checking mixes on the car
stereo or a boombox without having to burn a cd first.
I also have done actual mastering or tweaking of mixes in the car, mixing on
a laptop with its output connected to the aux input of my car radio.
Camelot
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Bingo! Great idea. I can't tell you how many CD's I waste because they
sound crappy on the cars. What sort of FM transmitter do you have? The
only thing I wonder about is the transmitters audio frequency response, or
isn't this really a factor in this application?
Camelot
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