Lexicon Reflex vs. the MPX-100???

[Wave Maker]

I used a Lexicon Reflex a couple years ago, and was very impressed! On
a recording, I could't tell the difference between the Reflex and a
PCM-70, but I understand the Reflex dosen't have the tweakability.
Anyway... the reverbs are excellent.

So how does this new Lexicon MPX-100 compare to the Reflex?? Any
opinions would be really appreicated! Is one more natural than the
other? Does the Reflex offer anything over the MPX-100?

Thank alot!

BILLW...@webtv.net

[Lloyd206]

Bill,
I have both. I vastly prefer the reflex for reverbs, but prefer even more my
LXP1 .(which I've just sent to audio upgrades in L.A.) Both the reflex and the
LXP1 are almost (but not all ) reverbs, whereas the MXP100 has a lot of
different effects like detune flange chorus etc. I will probably use the MXP100
more when I need other effects, but so far I've been a little disappointed in
it. (I should add that I expected to be dissapointed in it as I was looking for
reverb and didn't think that they were going to give away the store for $200-I
was right, but they still have some pride!)
Good luck,
R.L,nyc.

[Irwin Shur]

Actually, a Reflex can be tweaked to death if you like...just not from the
front panel. You can do some basic tweaking from the front panel, and a
lot of very in depth stuff via MIDI. I think in fact that it is much more
programmable than the MPX-100.

I can't comment on sound since I've never heard the MPX-100, but I really
like my Reflex.

Wave Maker wrote:

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[Mike Rivers]

In article <17047-36...@newsd-144.iap.bryant.webtv.net> BILLW...@webtv.net writes:

> I used a Lexicon Reflex a couple years ago, and was very impressed! On
> a recording, I could't tell the difference between the Reflex and a
> PCM-70, but I understand the Reflex dosen't have the tweakability.

That's a big advantage to a novice user. You can't mess it up too
badly.

> So how does this new Lexicon MPX-100 compare to the Reflex??

A few more programs, a bit more tweakability, a little less money.
All in all a very good buy. But some day you WILL be able to tell the
difference between it and a Lexicon PCM-999 or whatever they're up to
by then.

--
I'm really Mike Rivers (mri...@d-and-d.com)

[Paul Jenner]

Well, mr. Lloyd.

Good to hear that you like your reflex so much. I've got one myself and
i think it's a helluva reverb.
I already discovered that the mpx 100 isn't as tweakable as the reflex,
could be a reason for me NOT to buy the mpx .. But i do my tweaking of
reverbs (not much interested in anything else ...) by using the APM,
advanced programming mode. Are you suggesting that you can reach even
more parameters via midi ?

I believe the reverbs are excellent, but i'm still having trouble
"losing" reverb in the mix. But i guess that has more to do with the
shortcomings on my mixer (no parametric mid eq's) than with the reflex ?

BTW:

Could you suggest a setting for a reverb that sounds HUGE (like a very,
very large hall) without drowning the entire mix ?

Did you, in some way, manage to get rid of the terrible hiss coming from
the reflex when it isn't fed with some sort of signal ? A gate perhaps ?

See you,

Paul.

A splendid time is guaranteed for all ...

(Please remove "rennejluap" from my e-mail adress when replying.)

[BrownSnd14]

>Actually, a Reflex can be tweaked to death if you like...just not from the
>front panel. You can do some basic tweaking from the front panel, and a
>lot of very in depth stuff via MIDI.

You can get to every paramater from the front panel. There's a combination
button press involved and it's still pretty criptic. I usually just scroll
through the presets untill I find something I like and then adjust the decay to
fit the song. Ya know... I do the same thing on 480's... hmmm...

-Jay Kahrs
Brown Sound Studios
Morris Plains, NJ

[George Reiswig]

But I take it from these posts that the two units are comparable in terms
of their reverb *quality?* Is that right?

GR

BrownSnd14 <brown...@aol.com> wrote in article
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[Paul Jenner]

That's what me too wants to know. I think the better tweakability of the
verbs on the reflex is a big advantage.

Paul.
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[Tom Kochie]

I have both the Reflex and the MPX-100, I am still getting used to the MPX-100
but still lean towards the Reflex for the reverbs. They seem to fit better in a
mix.
That's not to say the MPX-100 won't I just haven't been able to get the same
mixes "out of the box" as I do with the Reflex. Some tweaking may be required.

If I had to make a choice between one over the other I'd probably go with the
mpx-100, more sounds, cheaper, reverb sonic quality is comprable to the Reflex.
But that's just me, your requirements may differ...

Tom

[M. Manthei]

George;
That's a pretty tough comparison - and different people rate "quality"
differently. For some people, just the fact that "both are Lexicon and
don't produce hiss like Alesis" is enough to say they are comparable in
quality. But each have a different "sound", and most people will prefer
one over the other. The Reflex is darker overall than the MPX100... to
me. Whether that's quality or not is too personal a question. Some
interpret this darker sound as a "richness" or "lush and deep". I've
heard criticism of the cheaper Lexicon units that claimed the "dark" sound
was to hide noise in high frequencies so there are at least 2 sides to that.
However, while listening to music, the important thing is how it sound, not
what technique got you there.

They are driven by two entirely different chips.
The MPX 100 is the "Lexi-Chip" at the heart, the Reflex has an older 16bit
version.
I think the MPX100 does a better job of room simulations. (due to many
factors...or so I've been told) The chip is only one factor. The quality of
the mathematical algorithms is another, etc..

If you could get a chance to listen to both, you might just find out which
one suits you best, which is a better question than the elusive "better
quality". I hope you can. It's more fun that way.

Mike

George Reiswig wrote in message
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>But I take it from these posts that the two units are comparable in terms
>of their reverb *quality?* Is that right?
>
>GR
>
>BrownSnd14 <brown...@aol.com> wrote in article
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[Bill Edstrom]

I own a Reflex and continue to use it as my favorite unit. The reflex IS
very tweakable... just not via the front panel. Through midi you have access
to many more settings than the front panel. So unless you use a control
surgace or some software, some of the power is not available.

The Reflex is not a stereo unit. The L and R channels are summed going into
the processor. I see that on the MPX100 there is separate processing for the
L and R channels. The MPX seems to be more of a preset/and variation type
unit. The Reflex is actually very programmable.

Bill Edstrom

Wave Maker wrote in message
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I used a Lexicon Reflex a couple years ago, and was very impressed! On
a recording, I could't tell the difference between the Reflex and a
PCM-70, but I understand the Reflex dosen't have the tweakability.