AudioSlave/Chris Cornell Live sounds terrible
Mike
AudioSlave which has the ex singer of SoundGarden, Chris Cornell I
think it is. Boy this was the worst singing I had ever heard. Granted
he does a lot of screams on his records but this sounded like he was
being electrocuted live.
On top of that they were doing some effects treatment that made it
sound 10 times worse. Wonder who the live engineers were that were
butchering that stuff.
Alan Halverson
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> I heard some live audio feed on a local radio station of the band
> AudioSlave which has the ex singer of SoundGarden, Chris Cornell I
> think it is. Boy this was the worst singing I had ever heard. Granted
No question, he is consistently bad as a live singer. Check out his
performance in the movie 'Singles' - truly awful. I wonder what it takes to
get him to sing on key in the studio?
_Alan
Philipp Wachtel
> > AudioSlave which has the ex singer of SoundGarden, Chris Cornell I
> > think it is. Boy this was the worst singing I had ever heard. Granted
> <snip>
>
> No question, he is consistently bad as a live singer. Check out his
> performance in the movie 'Singles' - truly awful. I wonder what it takes
to
> get him to sing on key in the studio?
Maybe, plenty takes and good editing technician ;-) Michael Jackson is said
to record his vocal tracks about 90 (or even more) times for each song...
Well, we don´t know.... But I never liked Cornell´s voice anyway -
Soundgarden could´ve sounded a lot cooler with different singer.
Phil
Big
<philipp...@netcologne.de> wrote:
>Well, we don´t know.... But I never liked Cornell´s voice anyway -
>Soundgarden could´ve sounded a lot cooler with different singer.
Puzzling!!!
It's a very subjective thing, but I always liked Chris Cornell's
voice. I have the last 2 Soundgarden CDs and his solo effort
"Euphoria Morning" and I think it's all great. I also saw Soundgarden
on their last tour and it was an excellent show. I can't say I heard
the show referred to by the original poster, but it runs directly
counter to my opinion of Cornell. I will concede that he has a voice
and performing style that you will probably either love or hate.
I was really bummed when Soundgarden broke up. I was equally bummed
when I heard that he'd elected to join forces with the ex-Ragers, for
whom I have a great amount of disdain (for completely non-musical
reasons).
Just one man's $.02.
Mike
Mike
Truth is I loved SoundGarden and his Cornells work in the studio was
good. Don't know how many takes. I realize he does some of those balls
on screams but this just seemed to be non-stop and sounded someone was
killing tarzan.
Big
<snip>
>on screams but this just seemed to be non-stop and sounded someone was
>killing tarzan.
LOL - who knows man??? Maybe it was just an off night. Couldn't have
been any worse than Scott Stapp was it??? <g>
Mike
Kris Singh
I completely agree in every way with Mike. Chris Cornell is a love
'em or don't kind of voice. I think he is one of the great rock
singers of modern times. In fact, I think he is the most unique. He
sings with a lot more notes in his melodies then everyone else out
there. Hey, the Beatles stopped playing live because they couldn't
pull the records off live. Given, Audioslave is not the Beatles, but
his vocals are complex at times. In todays day in age, if you can do
it in the studio that well, I say, let it be.-Kris
John L Rice
"Philipp Wachtel" <philipp...@netcologne.de> wrote in message
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To each his own but I think Chris Cornell is one of 'the' greatest heavy
rock vocalists to emerge in the last fifteen years or so. I wish I could
sing like that. Not many can approach him.
John L Rice
Dru...@ImJohn.com
Sean McDonald
Alan Halverson wrote:
As a fan of the band, and the producer of super unknown, I had the luck to
meet Michael Beinhorn.
I told him that I really liked the record, blah, blah, blah. And that I heard
there was a pretty convoluted vocal chain.
He said yes there was, and then offered up that it was quite an adventure in
the studio with Chris Cornell.
Mostly because each pass was very different from the one before. He said it
got to the point where there were so many takes, in so many different
directions, that he went in one entire day by himself, and comped the tracks.
He didn't really say much about pitch.
Great record.
take care
Sean
transducr
> when I heard that he'd elected to join forces with the ex-Ragers, for
> whom I have a great amount of disdain (for completely non-musical
> reasons).
i'll second that.
Big
wrote:
>As a fan of the band, and the producer of super unknown, I had the luck to
>meet Michael Beinhorn.
You were the producer of Superunknown???
Mike
Steve
he got his head out of his ass and sounded great. Morello was awesome?
Steve
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JWelsh3374
> performance in the movie 'Singles' - truly awful. I wonder what it takes to
> get him to sing on key in the studio? >>
Uhhh...Pro Tools?
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Analogeezer
Just MHO, but I have heard this about him before. I think he sounds
fantastic in the studio but I get the impression he's one of those
110% singers that blows out his vocal chords right after getting that
perfect anguished vocal take.
I think he maybe writes stuff that he can't pull off live
consistently, nothing against him really, Plant and others have done
that for years.
You figure if you can't hit that stuff every take in the studio...then
take it out live with traveling, etc. and doing it 90+ minutes a
night, 4 -5 nights a week, that's a recipe for not pulling it off.
The only guy I have ever heard/seen that can sing balls to the walls
like that and still pull it off every night (into his 50's even!) is
Sammy Hagar, pretty amazing guy. When I was in a cover band I could do
a pretty credible Hagar, but for only one song...after that my voice
would be roached and it was time for a drum solo or something <g>
Speaking of cool voices that wound up getting shot by the strain,
anybody heard Brian Johnson (AC/DC) lately? Man that guy can barely
squeak anything out...Sammy H. excepted this kind of vocalizing is
really a young guy's game, humans were not meant to sing like that for
that long for a long career...
Analogeezer
Buster Mudd
>
> I think [Chris Cornell ]is one of the great rock
> singers of modern times. In fact, I think he is the most unique
>
...unless you've already heard Burton Cummings.
-b
Kris Singh
I agree completely. Listen, Cornell blows away bands like Creed and
Puddle Of Mudd in the studio. He has a character that is his own.
When you hear a Keith Richards lick you know it is him inside of 4
seconds. Chris Cornell is the same way with his voice. You can't
mess with that. He has written many hits in 4 different projects
now!!! How many artist go Platnium with four different
projects????!!!!??? Face a fact. He is extreemly gifted. No mic, eq
or effect can give you his growl. Live is not relevant. Is the show
fun??? Isn't that what matters?? What happened to enjoying a show
without criticing it???? Remember when you were 16 how amazing it all
was regardless. Remember, ITS ONLY ROCK N ROLL!!!-Kris
P.S. for those of you who don't remember, his four Platnium Certified
projects are...
1. Soundgarden
2. Temple Of The Dog
3. Chris Cornell(solo effort)
4. Audioslave
Big
wrote:
>or effect can give you his growl. Live is not relevant. Is the show
>fun??? Isn't that what matters?? What happened to enjoying a show
>without criticing it???? Remember when you were 16 how amazing it all
>was regardless. Remember, ITS ONLY ROCK N ROLL!!!-Kris
Kris,
I agree with you completely that Chris Cornell is an exceptional
singer, but I have to differ with your comment on enjoying a show
without "criticizing" it. I think you'll find that the people here
(myself included) will find it very difficult to enjoy a live show (or
recorded music for that matter) without some degree of critique. When
you are a musician/engineer, your ears are attuned to things that 99%
of the rest of the audience will never hear, or realize what it is if
they DO hear it.
Especially at live shows, I often find myself wishing I DIDN'T pick up
on many things that aren't right in the sound or the performance.
Mike
J.P.
engineer behind the Audioslave album, and he said he used an original C12
through a 1073 and an 1176, set to something like 8:1 with a fast attack to
tame the peaks, leaving the bulk of his vocal untouched. Who knows, i've heard
him live a few times and it was hit or miss. Love him on the records though,
Soundgarden, solo, and Audioslave.
J.P.
J...@Risusproductions.com
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Wave Distribution
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Fill X
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Kris Singh
I agree and I too suffer from the same problem. I was just trying to
point out that we as engineers, producers and artists are jaded. We
need to remember that. I like to try to leave the studio at the
studio the best I can. I do say, to the average listener, it is all
the same as the record anyway. Pitch is nothing without attitude, but
attitude is still attitude.... with or without pitch. Given, they are
both important, but attitude is the hard part to find. Pitch can't
take me anywhere, but a great attitude can draw me in. That's just my
opinion though.-Kris
Randall Stevens
Soundgarden was a unique band. I first heard the Outshined tune and
imediately had to learn the guitar part. Cornell's voice was very
unique as well. At first I didn't like or dislike his voice. It just
fit the sound of the band. His voice kind of grows on you. After about
a year or so, my interest level in Soundgarden dropped. I din't
follow them too much at all. A couple years later I saw them on an
SNL performance. It was HORRID! Cornell's voice was horrible, the
band seemed to be off. Not a very good show IMO. Of course, this may
not reflect all of their shows as some have said out here.
Thomas Bishop
Do you leave your ears at the studio too?
I point out things to my girlfriend all the time, whether on a CD or at a
show. If it's on a CD then I'll rewind to that part, explain exactly what
it is, and she still doesn't hear it. I guess it's a good thing career-wise
but not when you're trying to enjoy less than perfect music. (But who needs
less than perfect music anyway?)
Fill X
>but not when you're trying to enjoy less than perfect music. (But who needs
>less than perfect music anyway?)
i don't think any of the music i like is perfect.
Nathan Eldred
> Hey, the Beatles stopped playing live because they couldn't
> pull the records off live.
No, the Beatles stopped playing live because they were burnt out and
feared for their lives.
Nathan Eldred
http://www.atlasproaudio.com
Nil
news:b14184ab.03040...@posting.google.com:
> myname...@hotmail.com (Kris Singh) wrote :
>> Hey, the Beatles stopped playing live because they couldn't
>> pull the records off live.
>
> No, the Beatles stopped playing live because they were burnt out and
> feared for their lives.
I believe you both are right. Their new records didn't work very well
live. Have you ever heard their live versions of "Yesterday" and
"Paperback Writer"? Not good.
raven1
(transducr) wrote:
Funny; I was really bummed when Zack chose to leave Rage, and equally
bummed when I heard that they'd elected to join forces with Cornell,
for whom I have a great amount of disdain (for completely musical
reasons). To each their own.
tbo...@hotmail.com
".. When you hear a Keith Richards lick you know it is him inside of 4
seconds. Chris Cornell is the same way with his voice.. "
I always think it's Ozzy, especially something from Sabotage. Then,
I'm disappointed that it's not Ozzy.
But, you're right about Keith! And, a good singer. "Happy" could only
be Keith.
Remote
<psyched...@flashmail.com> wrote:
Rage Against the Machine was the best rock band *ever* because they actually raged against
the machine.
hth,
r
and sounded great doing it--probably having a lot to do with its being real.
Big
>> Funny; I was really bummed when Zack chose to leave Rage, and equally
>> bummed when I heard that they'd elected to join forces with Cornell,
>> for whom I have a great amount of disdain (for completely musical
>> reasons). To each their own.
>
>Rage Against the Machine was the best rock band *ever* because they actually raged against
>the machine.
>
>hth,
>r
>
>and sounded great doing it--probably having a lot to do with its being real.
Psssst......the billy goats are coming. Better get back under your
bridge!!!
HTH,
Mike
Justin Smith
class--all the while charging $35 for a T-shirt at their shows. If you
want real, buy any--no, every--Hot Water Music record and you'll
quickly retract your statement about who's the best rock band ever.
Justin Smith
johnbri...@gmail.com
> I heard some live audio feed on a local radio station of the band
> AudioSlave which has the ex singer of SoundGarden, Chris Cornell I
> think it is. Boy this was the worst singing I had ever heard. Granted
> he does a lot of screams on his records but this sounded like he was
> being electrocuted live.
>
>
> On top of that they were doing some effects treatment that made it
> sound 10 times worse. Wonder who the live engineers were that were
> butchering that stuff.
>
>
> Mike http://www.mmeproductions.com
Phil W
to look at the first line of your reply, which shows the original date
and time?
Anyway, both of you can be happy, since Chris Cornell will not sing ever
again.
For more information on this, do a web search containing the words
"Chris Cornell suicide"
thekma...@gmail.com
>some live audio feed on a local radio station
like dog vomit to you.
Trevor
> 2019-12-09 10:45 johnbri...@gmail.com:
>> On Monday, April 7, 2003 at 3:54:45 PM UTC-5, Mike wrote:
>
>> Not sure how old this post is, but you are the biggest Idiot on the
>> face of the Earth.. Worst Singing Ever.... total Dumbass
>
> Are you sure, can call others "total Dumbass", when you´re even not able
> to look at the first line of your reply, which shows the original date
> and time?
And replying to a 16 YO post is pretty dumbass.
thekma...@gmail.com
some serious personal issues.
John Williamson
> People who obsess over how "old" a thread or post is have
> some serious personal issues.
>
This sort of thing is why many people just block all posts from @gmail.com
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thekma...@gmail.com
Isn't it easy to just look for the original posting date, right at the top of the O.P.?
Either way I couldn't give a shart how old a thread is, as long as
knowledge is imparted and someone learns something they didn't
know prior to reading the thing.
Scott Dorsey
>People who obsess over how "old" a thread or post is have
>some serious personal issues.
any more, and the person discussed in the thread is no longer alive. On
top of which, the original audio being discussed has likely not been available
for many years, so there's really no way to figure out what the original poster
heard. So I would say that this is no longer a useful thread for discussion.
--scott
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