Will a US Mackie 1202VLZ-Pro work in Europe?
Mike
curious if I'll be able to take this mixer to Europe with me. Mackie
tech support said I'd need to buy a new mixer (kind of what I thought
they'd say) OR buy a transformer. I know some of the other mixers have
external power supplies so they can be used in Europe with a European
purchased power supply. If the Mackies don't work that way, I'm open
for suggestions for a mixer that would work in both the US and Europe.
Thanks,
Michael
James Matthews
Here in the UK, our mains are 230V 50Hz AC, with a three pin centre earth
plug.
It is possible to get a transformer that will convert this to the American
Standard. You can also get transformers that will convert mainland Europe
standard mains supply to USA standard. What mains supply do you have in the
USA, out of interest?
James
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EdGerhard
etc. Don't buy the cheap little plastic Radio Shack transformer!
Good luck,
Ed
Dan Popp
Fletcher
>
> I'm planning on purchasing the Mackie 1202VLZ-Pro here in the US and I'm
> curious if I'll be able to take this mixer to Europe with me. Mackie
> tech support said I'd need to buy a new mixer (kind of what I thought
> they'd say) OR buy a transformer. I know some of the other mixers have
> external power supplies so they can be used in Europe with a European
> purchased power supply. If the Mackies don't work that way, I'm open
> for suggestions for a mixer that would work in both the US and Europe.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
Dan Popp had the "A" answer...mine's a tad more pragmatic. It'll
probably cost you more to ship/import/and transformer your 1202VLZ than
it will to just buy one in Europe. We're not talking about a 48 input
API here...we're talking about a desk that basically could be traded for
a few of the really cool holographic Pokeman cards...
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Mike
that the good ones cost $500 - $1000!
Mike
> plug.
>
> It is possible to get a transformer that will convert this to the American
> Standard. You can also get transformers that will convert mainland Europe
> standard mains supply to USA standard. What mains supply do you have in the
> USA, out of interest?
We're at 110V and I think it's 60Hz AC but I'm not positive. I'm
planning on moving to France, where I believe it's 220V 50Hz. This
power stuff is so confusing!
Mike
Ok, I'll bite.. what do you suggest for an entry level mixer? Basically
I only need ONE mic-preamp but I know I should get a mixer that I can
grow into. I wanted the Rolls MX902 but it wasn't in stock
(zzounds.com).
Fletcher
>
> How much are they? I heard that the cheap ones will ruin your gear and
> that the good ones cost $500 - $1000!
>
Well....that would depend on your current draw...which should be
mentioned in the manual [that's the thing that kinda looks like a book
that was in the way when you took your new board out of the box...if you
can find it, there should be a whole section on power, right there in
the manual...really]...one big enough for a 1202VLZ should run you all
of $50 USD...+/- $15.00
Fletcher
>
>
> We're at 110V and I think it's 60Hz AC but I'm not positive. I'm
> planning on moving to France, where I believe it's 220V 50Hz. This
> power stuff is so confusing!
Well...from my experience working in France, alot of your power problems
will come from whether Francois gets a decent piece of ass from the wife
before he goes to work...no head, you maybe get 180volts...quicky lay,
210-220, real good hummer or a little kitchen table action, you're
lookin' at least 240, maybe even 250-260...
As for the 50/60Hz thing, unless your Mackie has AC motors in it, it's
not a problem.
James Matthews
as expensive in Europe as it is in the USA. You can get a 1604VLZ-Pro for
$879.00. In the UK, it's almost £900.00
£1 = $1.62
So in USA its $879 in UK its $1454
Ouch!
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> Dan Popp had the "A" answer...mine's a tad more pragmatic. It'll
> probably cost you more to ship/import/and transformer your 1202VLZ than
> it will to just buy one in Europe. We're not talking about a 48 input
> API here...we're talking about a desk that basically could be traded for
> a few of the really cool holographic Pokeman cards...
James Matthews
is that they have no underground wiring, it's all carried via pylons. If
you've been to France, you will notice this.
James
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>
>
> Well...from my experience working in France, alot of your power problems
> will come from whether Francois gets a decent piece of ass from the wife
> before he goes to work...no head, you maybe get 180volts...quicky lay,
> 210-220, real good hummer or a little kitchen table action, you're
> lookin' at least 240, maybe even 250-260...
>
> As for the 50/60Hz thing, unless your Mackie has AC motors in it, it's
> not a problem.
Joe Kotroczo
<ja...@compu-build.com>
wrote:
JM> Could be true, but take into account that audio equipment can be up to
JM> twice as expensive in Europe as it is in the USA. You can get a
JM> 1604VLZ-Pro for $879.00. In the UK, it's almost £900.00 £1 = $1.62
That's only true for equipment built in the USA. European equipment is
generally cheaper in Europe.
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Bill Roberts wroberts@grove.ufl.edu
James Matthews wrote:
>
> Could be true, but take into account that audio equipment can be up to twice
> as expensive in Europe as it is in the USA. You can get a 1604VLZ-Pro for
> $879.00. In the UK, it's almost £900.00
> £1 = $1.62
>
> So in USA its $879 in UK its $1454
Well, that may be the case, but I don't think it is
Mackie's fault...
The Direct Shop in Germany sells the 1604 VLZ Pro for $975.38
or £608.44, excluding German tax.
-- Bill
James Matthews
makes, all cheaper in US.
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Joe Kotroczo <kotr...@village.uunet.lu> wrote in message
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> In article <O2rc4.111$Xc.1873@wards>, "James Matthews"
> <ja...@compu-build.com>
> wrote:
>
> JM> Could be true, but take into account that audio equipment can be up
to
Bill Roberts wroberts@grove.ufl.edu
James Matthews wrote:
>
> I don't agree, look at Allen and Heath, Behringer, Soundcraft - all EU
> makes, all cheaper in US.
Perhaps the reason is VAT. If US prices had 40% or so tacked
on, in place of our having income and corporate taxes, our
prices would be higher too.
??
-- Bill
Joe Kotroczo
<ja...@compu-build.com> wrote:
JM> I don't agree, look at Allen and Heath, Behringer, Soundcraft - all EU
JM> makes, all cheaper in US.
Are they?
Let's see: the Behringer MX1604A for example (chosen randomly):
In the US it's $320 list, $280 street (taken from a random US online shop)
In Germany it's DM 429, which is $221 (with todays exchange rate)
deduct the 16% VAT from that, and you're at $186. That's $94, or 34%
cheaper.
Another example?
Soundcraft Spirit LX7 16ch:
US: $1900 list
Germany: DM 2300, which is $1184. Deduct 16% VAT: $995.
I invite you to prove me wrong. The website I chose for the US prices was
Markertek (it was the first one I found), the website I chose for German
prices was Musik Produktiv, which claims to be the biggest music store in
Europe.
>> JM> Could be true, but take into account that audio equipment can be
>> JM> up to twice as expensive in Europe as it is in the USA. You can
>> JM> get a 1604VLZ-Pro for $879.00. In the UK, it's almost £900.00 £1 =
>> JM> $1.62
Joe Kotroczo
wrob...@grove.ufl.edu" <wrob...@grove.ufl.edu> wrote:
>> I don't agree, look at Allen and Heath, Behringer, Soundcraft - all EU
>> makes, all cheaper in US.
BRw> Perhaps the reason is VAT. If US prices had 40% or so tacked
BRw> on, in place of our having income and corporate taxes, our
BRw> prices would be higher too.
BRw> ??
Thank God it's not 40%. (yet?) As far as I know, no EU country has more
than 20%-21% VAT.
But they are not replacing income and corporate taxes, we still have those.
Not to forget social insurance (or whatever this is called in english).
DavidP
Captain Analogue
Toni Mykkänen
> than 20%-21% VAT.
> But they are not replacing income and corporate taxes, we still have
those.
> Not to forget social insurance (or whatever this is called in english).
Here in Finland the VAT is 22%. That's after you pay upto 60% or so income
tax.
-- Toni