How do I change speed of whole song in Pro Tools?
NotReallyMe
turn to adjust the pitch (which would also speed up or slow down the
song). If I recall it worked in 1 cent increments. I used it quite a
bit.
Is there something equivalent in Pro Tools LE ?
I know that v7.4 has elastic audio, but I don't want to process any of
the sound, I just want to make the whole song a little quicker and the
incremental pitch change is ok.
Thanks
Richard Kuschel
AFAIK, you can't do it that easily. What happens on the XT20 is that
the sample rate is changed to provide the pitch change, and this works
fine as long as your output is analog. if you use a digital output,
the unit being recorded to links to the sample rate and your change is
negated.
There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
the mixed files.
When you use this plug-in,your original files is rewritten and saved
as a new file.
NotReallyMe
>
> AFAIK, you can't do it that easily. What happens on the XT20 is that
> the sample rate is changed to provide the pitch change, and this works
> fine as long as your output is analog. if you use a digital output,
> the unit being recorded to links to the sample rate and your change is
> negated.
>
> There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> the mixed files.
>
> When you use this plug-in,your original files is rewritten and saved
> as a new file.
Thanks Richard. I found the pitch plug-in you mentioned, but I'm
reluctant to have the files re-written 'cuz I'm thinking that the
edits and fades, automation will be burned in stone after the re-
write.
I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
things.
Scott Dorsey
>
>Thanks Richard. I found the pitch plug-in you mentioned, but I'm
>reluctant to have the files re-written 'cuz I'm thinking that the
>edits and fades, automation will be burned in stone after the re-
>write.
Make a backup. Make a full backup EVERY time you make a major change to
anything, and label the backup with the date and some information about the
change you are going to make.
>I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
>changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
>cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
>things.
I believe you select all, and then use the tempo change.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
rboy
> > There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> > the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> > will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> > the mixed files.
>
> > When you use this plug-in,your original files is rewritten and saved
> > as a new file.
>
> Thanks Richard. I found the pitch plug-in you mentioned, but I'm
> reluctant to have the files re-written 'cuz I'm thinking that the
> edits and fades, automation will be burned in stone after the re-
> write.
The file isn't rewritten over, it's just that it puts the new file in
its place on the track. Your original files are untouched unless you
have selected "overwrite" in the plugin menu, which it doesn't default
to. For your purposes it should be at "continuous"
If there are fades and edits you want to not have to recreate, simply
make a new track and option drag files over to that track and they'll
still be there after you do the pitch change,
> > There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> > the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> > will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> > the mixed files.
>
That's not quite right. The check box just toggles the time
compensation. Also, that's the old plug in that Digi left in for
compatibility. More recent versions (less recent than current ones
with Elastic Time) have the improved version in the newer Time Shift
Audio Suite plug. It has more options as well. That's the one you
want. Choose the setting that fits your needs and see if the sound
suits you. You can alter the pitch and compensate the time in
different ratios.
Richard Kuschel
>
> > > There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
> > > the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the effect
> > > will be the same except that your pitch/speed change will stay with
> > > the mixed files.
>
> That's not quite right. The check box just toggles the time
> compensation. Also, that's the old plug in that Digi left in for
> compatibility. More recent versions (less recent than current ones
> with Elastic Time) have the improved version in the newer Time Shift
> Audio Suite plug. It has more options as well. That's the one you
> want. Choose the setting that fits your needs and see if the sound
> suits you. You can alter the pitch and compensate the time in
> different ratios.
You're right. My statement wasn't clear.
What I meant to say was:
There is a pitch change plug-in in ProTools LE audio suite (comes with
the program and if you don't check the time correction box, the
effect
will be the same AS IT WOULD BE ON THE XT20 except that your pitch/
speed change will stay with
the mixed files.
I'm not shouting, I just put the caps in for clarity.
my LE is 6.4
The real beauty of ProTools is that unless you specifically overwrite
or delete a file, the original file still exists and can be retrieved
and reused at any time.
WillStG
You might bounce your mix to two tracks, and play with the tempo
of the bounced mix.
Will Miho
NY TV/Audio Post/Music/Live Sound Guy
"The large print giveth and the small print taketh away..." Tom Waits
NotReallyMe
will be done in the pro studio with all the plug-in goodies and
various outboard effects. I'm just doing the vocals in my home studio
and would like some of the songs to have a little more zip by
increasing the BPM of the entire song.
Each song contains approx 30 tracks so naturally all of the tracks
have to go with the new tempo and still maintain all the previous
edits. There are 3 or 4 songs (out of 11 for the album) that I would
prefer a faster tempo from start to finish.
To be honest, it was my decision when the original studio tracking
session took place... I just recorded several of the songs TOO SLOW.
The band and the engineer did a fantastic job, but now as I add the
vocals I want them to cook a little faster - if only for the sizzle
factor the provides the listener with an extra spark of energy to make
the song(s) more memorable.
Hmmm... you might be onto something there though Will, Maybe I'll
record my vocal / Piano parts at the current speed and put some fire
under 'em when it gets to two track.
Is hopping it up at mastering time too late I wonder?
ST
WillStG
> Each song contains approx 30 tracks so naturally all of the tracks
> have to go with the new tempo and still maintain all the previous
> edits. There are 3 or 4 songs (out of 11 for the album) that I would
> prefer a faster tempo from start to finish.
Well - I would create a backup of those songs first. Then it
might be a good idea to bounce each track to itself and replace, so
you remove the issue of any offline effects processing you are
attempting not being contiguous across the tracks ( this where you are
having problems no, offline effects that end where you have an edit
splice or a gap in your tracks? If so having contiguous files should
help.. )
And if your Protools plugins won't do what you need, you might try
try the "Warp to picture" feature in Nuendo or Cubase; having
contiguous file makes export to other DAW platforms drop and drag.
Name the files well though,
>
> To be honest, it was my decision when the original studio tracking
> session took place... I just recorded several of the songs TOO SLOW.
> The band and the engineer did a fantastic job, but now as I add the
> vocals I want them to cook a little faster - if only for the sizzle
> factor the provides the listener with an extra spark of energy to make
> the song(s) more memorable.
>
> Hmmm... you might be onto something there though Will, Maybe I'll
> record my vocal / Piano parts at the current speed and put some fire
> under 'em when it gets to two track.
>
> Is hopping it up at mastering time too late I wonder?
I don't think so, it's not unusual although it does make your
vocals sound a bit different. You have to decide how much is an
acceptable compromise, but it's not so obvious if the amount of pitch
shift is small - or if you have a decent plug in that changes speed
without affecting pitch..
david correia
klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
> >I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
> >changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
> >cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
> >things.
>
> I believe you select all, and then use the tempo change.
> --scott
> --
> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Scott, I don't think he's talking about 30 tracks of MIDI data but
actual audio files.
You can speed it up or slow it down with a Sync I/O box, but that's PT
TDM not LE.
Maybe that fancy studio you're going to has one.
David Correia
www.Celebrationsound.com
Scott Dorsey
>
>Scott, I don't think he's talking about 30 tracks of MIDI data but
>actual audio files.
>
>You can speed it up or slow it down with a Sync I/O box, but that's PT
>TDM not LE.
>
>Maybe that fancy studio you're going to has one.
No, I'm talking about the time-stretching function that resamples the data,
rather than actually doing a real rate shift in hardware.
geoff
> In article <g2gkgk$hrh$1...@panix2.panix.com>,
> klu...@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:
>
>>> I keep tinkering with the Tempo change dialog box but no luck in
>>> changing the whole song yet. Dang, this digital stuff is sooooooo
>>> cool and yet sometimes so frustrating for doing just the simplest
>>> things.
>>
>> I believe you select all, and then use the tempo change.
>> --scott
>> --
>> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
>
>
>
> Scott, I don't think he's talking about 30 tracks of MIDI data but
> actual audio files.
>
> You can speed it up or slow it down with a Sync I/O box, but that's PT
> TDM not LE.
In Acid just type the new tempo in the tempo box. Surely PT can do
something like that ?
geoff