Koetsu cartridge-SCAM SCAM SCAM!!!!!!!
Bret L
separate Koetsu carts. The fact is, I've heard $100 common carts that
had better overall fidelity. What a fuckin' rip off these things are.
It just goes to prove what a bunch of rimmers a lot of audiophiles
are.
Boon
It's time to clean out your ears. You have no idea what sounds good
and what doesn't.
hophead
5808c8...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, vinylana...@live.com
says...
I don't know, perhaps Bratzi auditioned the cartridges on this
turntable:
Boon
> In article <71d9127e-3452-4cf1-a708-
> 5808c8625...@d21g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, vinylanachron...@live.com
> says...
>
>
>
> > On Nov 19, 11:11 pm, Bret L <ixtarbru...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I was at one of our local high end saloons and had a demo of three
> > > separate Koetsu carts. The fact is, I've heard $100 common carts that
> > > had better overall fidelity. What a fuckin' rip off these things are.
>
> > > It just goes to prove what a bunch of rimmers a lot of audiophiles
> > > are.
>
> > It's time to clean out your ears. You have no idea what sounds good
> > and what doesn't.
>
> I don't know, perhaps Bratzi auditioned the cartridges on this
> turntable:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/gizzypooh/1455866616/
I wouldn't be surprised.
Here are the facts:
Bratzi didn't hear a Koetsu at a local audio saloon. There are no
Koetsus dealers close to his trailer park. He tried to pull this crap
with Harbeth. He couldn't name the model or the "saloon" or the the
salesperson or even the associated equipment. When pressed, he started
talking about hearing a Harbeth years ago at "someone's house."
He's doing the same thing here. He knows I like Koetsu and I like
Harbeth, and this is just a classic troll. Bratzi doesn't visit local
audio stores to audition equipment. Those people can spot an anti-EHEE
doofus like him from a mile away, and they won't go to the trouble of
letting him hear a single thing.
It's kind of sad that this guy is so lonely that he has to resort to
pathetic, transparent trolls like this just so someone will
acknowledge his existence.
hophead
@c3g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, vinylana...@live.com says...
> He's doing the same thing here. He knows I like Koetsu and I like
> Harbeth, and this is just a classic troll.
I can believe that. I've never had a chance to listen to a Koetsu, but
I've never heard anything but great things from anyone who's had a
chance to listen to or own one.
I've also not had a chance to audition anything from Harbeth, but my
local hi-fi shop just started bringing in some of their speakers. I
don't know how much of the range they carry, but a friend who works
there (whose ears I trust) told me they were very impressive.
Boon
> In article <c07ed132-f503-49f1-90a6-9e2082989b89
>
> > He's doing the same thing here. He knows I like Koetsu and I like
> > Harbeth, and this is just a classic troll.
>
> I can believe that. I've never had a chance to listen to a Koetsu, but
> I've never heard anything but great things from anyone who's had a
> chance to listen to or own one.
>
> I've also not had a chance to audition anything from Harbeth, but my
> local hi-fi shop just started bringing in some of their speakers. I
> don't know how much of the range they carry, but a friend who works
> there (whose ears I trust) told me they were very impressive.
Harbeth and Koetsu both make world-class components. Anyone who thinks
either one sounds like crap is probably lying about their experiences.
MiNe 109
<0b3b31eb-0c2c-49aa...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
Boon <vinylana...@live.com> wrote:
> Harbeth and Koetsu both make world-class components. Anyone who thinks
> either one sounds like crap is probably lying about their experiences.
From the too-late-to-count category: I was in the UT music building
today and saw notices for open forums with DJ Spooky. One was yesterday,
the other today at noon.
Stephen
Bret L
>
> Here are the facts:
>
> Bratzi didn't hear a Koetsu at a local audio saloon. There are no
> Koetsus dealers close to his trailer park. He tried to pull this crap
> with Harbeth. He couldn't name the model or the "saloon" or the the
> salesperson or even the associated equipment. When pressed, he started
> talking about hearing a Harbeth years ago at "someone's house."
http://store.acousticsounds.com/a/5413/Koetsu
>
> He's doing the same thing here. He knows I like Koetsu and I like
> Harbeth, and this is just a classic troll. Bratzi doesn't visit local
> audio stores to audition equipment. Those people can spot an anti-EHEE
> doofus like him from a mile away, and they won't go to the trouble of
> letting him hear a single thing.
>
It's true, I did have to keep my opinions on the down low.
Boon
> In article
> <0b3b31eb-0c2c-49aa-8b92-db0a632b2...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
>
> Boon <vinylanachron...@live.com> wrote:
> > Harbeth and Koetsu both make world-class components. Anyone who thinks
> > either one sounds like crap is probably lying about their experiences.
>
> From the too-late-to-count category: I was in the UT music building
> today and saw notices for open forums with DJ Spooky. One was yesterday,
> the other today at noon.
Arrrggggh. Would have liked to have gone.
Boon
> > Here are the facts:
>
> > Bratzi didn't hear a Koetsu at a local audio saloon. There are no
> > Koetsus dealers close to his trailer park. He tried to pull this crap
> > with Harbeth. He couldn't name the model or the "saloon" or the the
> > salesperson or even the associated equipment. When pressed, he started
> > talking about hearing a Harbeth years ago at "someone's house."
>
> http://store.acousticsounds.com/a/5413/Koetsu
I'll ask Clark, a personal friend of mine, if anyone came in and
auditioned three Koetsus and then left in the last few days. What were
you wearing?
>
>
>
> > He's doing the same thing here. He knows I like Koetsu and I like
> > Harbeth, and this is just a classic troll. Bratzi doesn't visit local
> > audio stores to audition equipment. Those people can spot an anti-EHEE
> > doofus like him from a mile away, and they won't go to the trouble of
> > letting him hear a single thing.
>
> It's true, I did have to keep my opinions on the down low.
When you say ridiculous things like Koetsus don't sound as good as
$100 cartridge, you'll find that no one really cares about your
opinions.
MiNe 109
<ae2a7366-84d2-4e91...@a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
Boon <vinylana...@live.com> wrote:
It's possible the forums were only publicized by photocopies posted on
music building bulletin boards. OTOH, the recent $50 million gift may
have something to do with the new lcd displays above the corkboard.
Stephen
Shhhh! I'm Listening to Reason!
Bratzi says even more ridiculous things than that.
Boon
Yes, but he's usually just expressing his execrable opinions. What
he's done here is lie about a reputable company. What a douchebag.
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> What a douchebag.
"Douchebag" is the retro insult of the decade. It was big in the '70s, then
it went moribund in the '80s and '90s, and it's been regaining popularity
ever since December 8, 2000.
This bit of cultural trivia was brought to you over the protests of
A. Scalia and C. Thomas, supreme douchebags of the U.S.A.
MiNe 109
George M. Middius <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Boon said:
>
> > What a douchebag.
>
> "Douchebag" is the retro insult of the decade. It was big in the '70s, then
> it went moribund in the '80s and '90s, and it's been regaining popularity
> ever since December 8, 2000.
Letterman talked about the emergence of "douche" the other day, joking
that visiting France he was afraid to use the shower controls.
> This bit of cultural trivia was brought to you over the protests of
> A. Scalia and C. Thomas, supreme douchebags of the U.S.A.
Perhaps peaking here:
http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79tdouchebag.phtml
Stephen
George M. Middius
MiNe 109 said:
> > > What a douchebag.
> >
> > "Douchebag" is the retro insult of the decade. It was big in the '70s, then
> > it went moribund in the '80s and '90s, and it's been regaining popularity
> > ever since December 8, 2000.
>
> Letterman talked about the emergence of "douche" the other day, joking
> that visiting France he was afraid to use the shower controls.
You can always rely on Dave for dumb jokes.
> > This bit of cultural trivia was brought to you over the protests of
> > A. Scalia and C. Thomas, supreme douchebags of the U.S.A.
>
> Perhaps peaking here:
> http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79tdouchebag.phtml
Memories... That skit was kind of funny, despite how it reads now.
Remember when Andrew Douche Clay guested on SNL, and Nora Dunn flounced off
in a tizzy? Now that's some major-league douchery.
MiNe 109
George M. Middius <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote:
> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > > What a douchebag.
> > >
> > > "Douchebag" is the retro insult of the decade. It was big in the '70s,
> > > then
> > > it went moribund in the '80s and '90s, and it's been regaining popularity
> > > ever since December 8, 2000.
> >
> > Letterman talked about the emergence of "douche" the other day, joking
> > that visiting France he was afraid to use the shower controls.
>
> You can always rely on Dave for dumb jokes.
You have to go to the fake news for smart ones.
> > > This bit of cultural trivia was brought to you over the protests of
> > > A. Scalia and C. Thomas, supreme douchebags of the U.S.A.
> >
> > Perhaps peaking here:
> > http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79tdouchebag.phtml
>
> Memories... That skit was kind of funny, despite how it reads now.
>
> Remember when Andrew Douche Clay guested on SNL, and Nora Dunn flounced off
> in a tizzy? Now that's some major-league douchery.
And Victoria Jackson assured us what a sweet guy he really was. Whatever
happened to her? You'd think a chunky blonde who can do a handstand
would go far in this world.
Stephen
Jenn
MiNe 109 <smce...@POPaustin.rr.com> wrote:
That gift was already manifesting itself when I was there in March.
Gosh I love what that SofM does. Jerry Junkin has been very nice to me.
We opened our new theater this weekend with concerts on Friday and
Saturday. Simply amazing to get it. Exhaustion has set in...I'm being
a slug today.
Anyone interested in live theater sound and psychoacoustics should check
out the Meyer Sound Constellation system. We are thrilled with it so
far.
http://www.meyersound.com/products/lcs_series/constellation/
Boon
wrote:
> Boon said:
>
> > What a douchebag.
>
> "Douchebag" is the retro insult of the decade. It was big in the '70s, then
> it went moribund in the '80s and '90s, and it's been regaining popularity
> ever since December 8, 2000.
It seems to have regained popularity in tandem with the variation
"douchebaggery."
George M. Middius
MiNe 109 said:
> > Remember when Andrew Douche Clay guested on SNL, and Nora Dunn flounced off
> > in a tizzy? Now that's some major-league douchery.
>
> And Victoria Jackson assured us what a sweet guy he really was. Whatever
> happened to her? You'd think a chunky blonde who can do a handstand
> would go far in this world.
After Nixon went to China, the right-wing pundits started laying claim to the
new age of peace and cooperation. When Obama went, today's wingnuts bitched
and moaned. At least he didn't puke on a Chinese leader. Did Dumbya ever go
to Asia? Supposedly, he spent the latter six years of his term reinforcing
his "bubble".
MiNe 109
George M. Middius <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote:
> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > Remember when Andrew Douche Clay guested on SNL, and Nora Dunn flounced
> > > off
> > > in a tizzy? Now that's some major-league douchery.
> >
> > And Victoria Jackson assured us what a sweet guy he really was. Whatever
> > happened to her? You'd think a chunky blonde who can do a handstand
> > would go far in this world.
>
> After Nixon went to China, the right-wing pundits started laying claim to the
> new age of peace and cooperation.
On, I remember that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Tv3hrZmcEk
> When Obama went, today's wingnuts bitched
> and moaned. At least he didn't puke on a Chinese leader. Did Dumbya ever go
> to Asia? Supposedly, he spent the latter six years of his term reinforcing
> his "bubble".
Do the Olympics count?
Stephen
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> > > What a douchebag.
> >
> > "Douchebag" is the retro insult of the decade. It was big in the '70s, then
> > it went moribund in the '80s and '90s, and it's been regaining popularity
> > ever since December 8, 2000.
>
> It seems to have regained popularity in tandem with the variation
> "douchebaggery."
Agreed, LOt"S. Bratzi has a crush on you, I believe.
George M. Middius
MiNe 109 said:
> > Did Dumbya ever go to Asia? Supposedly, he spent
> > the latter six years of his term reinforcing his "bubble".
> Do the Olympics count?
Oh, right. Forgot about that. He probably didn't give the premier a
shoulder-rub like he did with Merkel.
Meanwhile, the Papists are rearing up in propagandistic indignation.
"Rhode Island's top Roman Catholic leader has asked
Rep. Patrick Kennedy to stop taking Communion over
his support for abortion rights."
<http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/22/kennedy.abortion/index.html>
Another branch of christian religionists got pretty close to the Oval Office
under Dumbya. I wonder if this business with Kennedy has anything to do with
Rome and the Anglicans.
MiNe 109
George M. Middius <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote:
> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > Did Dumbya ever go to Asia? Supposedly, he spent
> > > the latter six years of his term reinforcing his "bubble".
>
> > Do the Olympics count?
>
> Oh, right. Forgot about that. He probably didn't give the premier a
> shoulder-rub like he did with Merkel.
>
> Meanwhile,
Well Scottie'd!
> the Papists are rearing up in propagandistic indignation.
> "Rhode Island's top Roman Catholic leader has asked
> Rep. Patrick Kennedy to stop taking Communion over
> his support for abortion rights."
>
> <http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/22/kennedy.abortion/index.html>
>
> Another branch of christian religionists got pretty close to the Oval Office
> under Dumbya. I wonder if this business with Kennedy has anything to do with
> Rome and the Anglicans.
Probably not, as the other RC leaders aren't exactly falling in line
behind this guy.
Too bad reexamining their tax-exempt status is such a political
impossibility.
Stephen
Stephen
George M. Middius
MiNe 109 said:
> > > > Did Dumbya ever go to Asia? Supposedly, he spent
> > > > the latter six years of his term reinforcing his "bubble".
> >
> > > Do the Olympics count?
> >
> > Oh, right. Forgot about that. He probably didn't give the premier a
> > shoulder-rub like he did with Merkel.
No youtube link?
> > Meanwhile,
>
> Well Scottie'd!
If I knew what you meant, I'd probably be ashamed.
> > Another branch of christian religionists got pretty close to the Oval Office
> > under Dumbya. I wonder if this business with Kennedy has anything to do with
> > Rome and the Anglicans.
>
> Probably not, as the other RC leaders aren't exactly falling in line
> behind this guy.
Maybe the R.I. priest is hoping to be recruited by the baptists. You're not a
practicing baptist, are you?
> Too bad reexamining their tax-exempt status is such a political
> impossibility.
I suppose you can cite a law stating that religious groups can only be
tax-exempt if they're not political....
> Stephen
> Stephen
woof!
woof!
MiNe 109
George M. Middius <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote:
> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > > > Did Dumbya ever go to Asia? Supposedly, he spent
> > > > > the latter six years of his term reinforcing his "bubble".
> > >
> > > > Do the Olympics count?
> > >
> > > Oh, right. Forgot about that. He probably didn't give the premier a
> > > shoulder-rub like he did with Merkel.
>
> No youtube link?
It's there under "Bush-Merkel".
> > > Meanwhile,
> >
> > Well Scottie'd!
>
> If I knew what you meant, I'd probably be ashamed.
'Meanwhile' was his favorite linking word.
> > > Another branch of christian religionists got pretty close to the Oval
> > > Office
> > > under Dumbya. I wonder if this business with Kennedy has anything to do
> > > with
> > > Rome and the Anglicans.
> >
> > Probably not, as the other RC leaders aren't exactly falling in line
> > behind this guy.
>
> Maybe the R.I. priest is hoping to be recruited by the baptists. You're not a
> practicing baptist, are you?
Damn! I left my cigarettes at the bar. No.
Baptists aren't too keen on priesthood and transubstantiation, so I
doubt a priest would feel welcome. An ex-priest might enjoy giving up
his vow of poverty.
> > Too bad reexamining their tax-exempt status is such a political
> > impossibility.
>
> I suppose you can cite a law stating that religious groups can only be
> tax-exempt if they're not political....
501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code defines an exempt church as one
"which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the
publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on
behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."
Churches are entitled to their views, of course, including political
ones but can't endorse specific candidates.
> > Stephen
> > Stephen
>
> woof!
> woof!
George M. Middius
MiNe 109 said:
> > > > Meanwhile,
> > >
> > > Well Scottie'd!
> >
> > If I knew what you meant, I'd probably be ashamed.
>
> 'Meanwhile' was his favorite linking word.
Oops. I feel flea-ridden.
> > > > Another branch of christian religionists got pretty close to the Oval Office
> > > > under Dumbya. I wonder if this business with Kennedy has anything to do
> > > > with Rome and the Anglicans.
> > > Probably not, as the other RC leaders aren't exactly falling in line
> > > behind this guy.
> > Maybe the R.I. priest is hoping to be recruited by the baptists. You're not a
> > practicing baptist, are you?
>
> Damn! I left my cigarettes at the bar. No.
Wouldn't that sort of hypocrisy be puritan or presbyterian? I admit I'm no
expert on the nuances of christian hypocrisy.
> Baptists aren't too keen on priesthood and transubstantiation, so I
> doubt a priest would feel welcome. An ex-priest might enjoy giving up
> his vow of poverty.
How about his vow of celibacy?
> > > Too bad reexamining their tax-exempt status is such a political
> > > impossibility.
> >
> > I suppose you can cite a law stating that religious groups can only be
> > tax-exempt if they're not political....
>
> 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code defines an exempt church as one
> "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the
> publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on
> behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."
>
> Churches are entitled to their views, of course, including political
> ones but can't endorse specific candidates.
Well googled.
MiNe 109
George M. Middius <cmndr_...@comcast.net> wrote:
> MiNe 109 said:
>
> > > > > Meanwhile,
> > > >
> > > > Well Scottie'd!
> > >
> > > If I knew what you meant, I'd probably be ashamed.
> >
> > 'Meanwhile' was his favorite linking word.
>
> Oops. I feel flea-ridden.
>
> > > > > Another branch of christian religionists got pretty close to the Oval
> > > > > Office
> > > > > under Dumbya. I wonder if this business with Kennedy has anything to
> > > > > do
> > > > > with Rome and the Anglicans.
>
> > > > Probably not, as the other RC leaders aren't exactly falling in line
> > > > behind this guy.
>
> > > Maybe the R.I. priest is hoping to be recruited by the baptists. You're
> > > not a
> > > practicing baptist, are you?
> >
> > Damn! I left my cigarettes at the bar. No.
>
> Wouldn't that sort of hypocrisy be puritan or presbyterian? I admit I'm no
> expert on the nuances of christian hypocrisy.
The real Puritans disapproved of drunkenness, not of drinking.
Southern Baptists are big on Prohibition or at least their church
conference is, so going to the bar is inherently bad.
> > Baptists aren't too keen on priesthood and transubstantiation, so I
> > doubt a priest would feel welcome. An ex-priest might enjoy giving up
> > his vow of poverty.
>
> How about his vow of celibacy?
Better to marry than to burn.
> > > > Too bad reexamining their tax-exempt status is such a political
> > > > impossibility.
> > >
> > > I suppose you can cite a law stating that religious groups can only be
> > > tax-exempt if they're not political....
> >
> > 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code defines an exempt church as one
> > "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the
> > publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on
> > behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."
> >
> > Churches are entitled to their views, of course, including political
> > ones but can't endorse specific candidates.
>
> Well googled.
Some churches tried to challenge this a while back but I don't remember
if anything came of it.
Stephen
Bret L
V'n's'n'h now presumes to KNOW WHAT I AM REALLY THINKING and to tell
all and sundry that I really like Koetsu, I'm just shitting on it over
jealousy.
Very low output moving coil carts are totally dependent for their
performance on loading and matching, and that means on an individual
basis. 99% of the cocksuckers that buy these things can'r even solder,
much less be expected to do that kind of work. And the pharmacopeia of
goofy body materials Koetsu uses just throws an unnecessary variable
in there. Maybe in some ideal world great results can be wrested from
these things but 90% of people will get better results from regular
old plebian cartridges.
Bret L
>
> And Victoria Jackson assured us what a sweet guy he really was. Whatever
> happened to her? You'd think a chunky blonde who can do a handstand
> would go far in this world.
She was real religious as I recall. Probably dropped out because of
that.
Bret L
>
> > I suppose you can cite a law stating that religious groups can only be
> > tax-exempt if they're not political....
>
> 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code defines an exempt church as one
> "which does not participate in, or intervene in (including the
> publishing or distributing of statements), any political campaign on
> behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for public office."
>
> Churches are entitled to their views, of course, including political
> ones but can't endorse specific candidates.
If that were evenly and thoroughly enforced half the TV preachers and
damn near every black AME and Baptist church would be disexempted. All
black preachers tell their congregations how to vote and the blacks go
forth and do it, to the extent their ability to comprehend the ballot
allows. The IRS can't touch them with a 20 foot pole so they have to
back off the white fundies some as well.
Boon
And still you haven't been able to confirm any of the details on your
alleged visit to Acoustic Sounds. For quite some time you've been
calling audiophiles and high-end audio frauds, so it's especially
fitting that you're the one who turns out to be the real fraud.
And your continued insistence that audiophiles need to know how to
solder before they can join the hobby remains one of the most retarded
things I've ever heard.
George M. Middius
Boon said:
> And your continued insistence that audiophiles need to know how to
> solder before they can join the hobby remains one of the most retarded
> things I've ever heard.
I'll bet he soldered something in one of his ears a long time ago.
Boon
wrote:
That would explain a lot. When it comes to stereo equipment, Bret the
Audio Fraud's tastes are shitty and uninformed at best.
Bret L
You can't really be stupid enough to believe I'm going to walk into
Kassem's joint and say, "Hello, I'm Bret Ludwig, the guy from Usenet
that posts racially conscious anti-fundamentalist (he's a big fundie,
or did you not know?) and less-than-worshipful posts about 90% of what
you sell and also pisses off Jews, who are half the audiophiles out
there, can I hear this stuff?? Oh and can you take a photo with me so
I can send it to your buddy to prove I really drove the 200 miles to
get here??"
Well.....okay. Maybe you can.
Boon
No. You can tell me when you visited, and I can ask my friend Clark if
a guy came in and auditioned three Koetsus during that time. It's
pretty simple.
The longer you wait, the less likely Clark will remember. Everyone
here knows that's your strategy, and everyone here now knows you're a
fraud when it comes to audio. Even duh-Mikey, who does know about
audio design, agrees that you know nothing about this hobby. For a
long time I've maintained that most of your audio posts have been cut-
and-pasted from other sources.
That's why most people here ignore you. So then next time you cry that
no one here wants to talk about audio here because they didn't respond
to your so-called audio post, you'll know the real answer.
Bret L
I'll say it was in the last two weeks. I was one of three people that
came over. I am not going to say what I was wearing or any thing like
that. There may have been a Clark there, I think the guy introduced
himself by another name that as I recall started with S.
It's a nice facility and I don't want to be banned for one thing. For
another they are a working shop and I don't feel the need to bother
them as you seem inclined to do over a trivial pissing match that only
peripherally involves them. I personally don't like this product and
did not understand why it is considered good but some do and my saying
what I think on Usenet is a different matter altogether than bothering
them.
There are a lot of things Chad Kassema nd I will never agree on but
he is a businessman performing a service and has the right not to have
his people fucked with.. I was super respectful on his turf and see no
reason to participate in a pussy hair plucking affair.
Boon
Actually, you maligned one of their products on the Internet. You said
that it was a scam, so therefore you're calling Chad and Clark
charlatans. I know that Clark owns a Koetsu in his system and feels
that it's the best cartridge money can buy. He's one of the top
turntable set-up experts in the world, and I would like to think he's
far more trustworthy than autistic trailer-park trash who spams audio
groups with white supremacist nonsense.
I think Chad and Clark should know who you are. You should be banned
from their facility since you're such a low-class ingrate.
And I still don't believe that you heard a Koetsu at their facility or
any other facility. The biggest clue that you're a fraud is your
failure to mention specific models. You just see a brand name that you
don't like (or that I DO like) and your biases instantly come out.
You're about the biggest audio fraud I've ever seen.
Bret L
>
> Actually, you maligned one of their products on the Internet. You said
> that it was a scam, so therefore you're calling Chad and Clark
> charlatans. I know that Clark owns a Koetsu in his system and feels
> that it's the best cartridge money can buy. He's one of the top
> turntable set-up experts in the world, and I would like to think he's
> far more trustworthy than autistic trailer-park trash who spams audio
> groups with white supremacist nonsense.
>
> I think Chad and Clark should know who you are. You should be banned
> from their facility since you're such a low-class ingrate.
I'll bet you do, Brenda Starr. I''ll bet you do indeed.
Yes, I dislike Koetsu. If they like it it's their business. I didn't
attack their business as a business.
A good friend of mine is a car salesman. He sells Bowel Movement
Watery's. He knows what I think of them and I keep it out of the
conversation. Do I consider him a charlatan? No, I consider that he's
a salesman for a product that I happen to not like.
Boon
> > Actually, you maligned one of their products on the Internet. You said
> > that it was a scam, so therefore you're calling Chad and Clark
> > charlatans. I know that Clark owns a Koetsu in his system and feels
> > that it's the best cartridge money can buy. He's one of the top
> > turntable set-up experts in the world, and I would like to think he's
> > far more trustworthy than autistic trailer-park trash who spams audio
> > groups with white supremacist nonsense.
>
> > I think Chad and Clark should know who you are. You should be banned
> > from their facility since you're such a low-class ingrate.
>
> I'll bet you do, Brenda Starr. I''ll bet you do indeed.
>
> Yes, I dislike Koetsu. If they like it it's their business. I didn't
> attack their business as a business.
You haven't heard a Koetsu.
>
> A good friend of mine is a car salesman. He sells Bowel Movement
> Watery's. He knows what I think of them and I keep it out of the
> conversation. Do I consider him a charlatan? No, I consider that he's
> a salesman for a product that I happen to not like.
You probably don't like BMWs because you can't afford one.
Still, you haven't addressed the questions I asked. That's
confirmation that you lied about the Koetsus and the Harbeths and
everything else. Nice going, audio fraud.
Bret L
>
> You haven't heard a Koetsu.
>
>
>
> > A good friend of mine is a car salesman. He sells Bowel Movement
> > Watery's. He knows what I think of them and I keep it out of the
> > conversation. Do I consider him a charlatan? No, I consider that he's
> > a salesman for a product that I happen to not like.
>
> You probably don't like BMWs because you can't afford one.
>
> Still, you haven't addressed the questions I asked. That's
> confirmation that you lied about the Koetsus and the Harbeths and
> everything else. Nice going, audio fraud.
You just don't get it. I'm not going to cut my own balls off. If you
want to believe I didn't really hear a Koetsu or a Harbeth, you can
believe that. It isn't like they are THAT rare. I told you where the
dealer was, where he has them set up for all and sundry to hear, and
you continue on an nad hominem attack.
Let's face it, you are a professional high end shill, someone whose
job it is to maintain the facade that if it's really, really expensive
and has the imprimatur of The High End Establishment it has some
ineffable magic that only the anointed, the initiated, the really
cool, can perceive. Hans Christian Andersen wrote a story about a
couple of con men who ran a scam called "The Emperor's New Clothes".
It's much the same with much of high end audio today and the many
varieties of Koetsu cartridge each with their weird casing material
are as good an example as any that I know of. Much less expensive
products can actually perform much better. The Koetsu is at best
capable of decent performance and takes detailed set up to do it.
And as far as your buddy being the greatest turntable set up man
alive, who cares? Setup is a constantly evolving thing, it isn't about
what he can do but what he can instruct others to do, since playing
vinyl is something that requires its practitioners to do themselves.
Telling people otherwise is a huge disservice.
Boon
> > You haven't heard a Koetsu.
>
> > > A good friend of mine is a car salesman. He sells Bowel Movement
> > > Watery's. He knows what I think of them and I keep it out of the
> > > conversation. Do I consider him a charlatan? No, I consider that he's
> > > a salesman for a product that I happen to not like.
>
> > You probably don't like BMWs because you can't afford one.
>
> > Still, you haven't addressed the questions I asked. That's
> > confirmation that you lied about the Koetsus and the Harbeths and
> > everything else. Nice going, audio fraud.
>
> You just don't get it. I'm not going to cut my own balls off.
You're cutting your own balls off by making fraudulent claims about
products you've never heard. It's okay to say you don't like the sound
of a particular product. It's quite another to call it a scam. From
your audio posts it's clear that you have very unusual tastes in sound
that do not reflect the general population. If you weren't so
autistic, you'd realize that. When it comes to sound, you speak for no
one but yourself and your very strange tastes.
If you
> want to believe I didn't really hear a Koetsu or a Harbeth, you can
> believe that. It isn't like they are THAT rare. I told you where the
> dealer was, where he has them set up for all and sundry to hear, and
> you continue on an nad hominem attack.
Bullshit. You obfuscated until I pressured you. Then you went on line
and looked up the nearest Koetsu dealer. If you had gone to Acoustic
Sounds, you would have mentioned that in the original post.
>
> Let's face it, you are a professional high end shill, someone whose
> job it is to maintain the facade that if it's really, really expensive
> and has the imprimatur of The High End Establishment it has some
> ineffable magic that only the anointed, the initiated, the really
> cool, can perceive.
Um, no I'm not. I have no vested interest in the high-end. I'm just a
guy who has experience in getting good sound from these products.
You're a guy who uses oil pans to make crappy amps behind his trailer.
Hans Christian Andersen wrote a story about a
> couple of con men who ran a scam called "The Emperor's New Clothes".
> It's much the same with much of high end audio today
No, not really. The snake oil products disappear. The truly
outstanding products survive in the marketplace. Koetsus have been
around for many decades. So have Harbeths. I've never heard anyone
criticize either brand until you came along. Funny thing is, you've
absolutely no experience with either one. So you're a fraud. Period.
and the many
> varieties of Koetsu cartridge each with their weird casing material
> are as good an example as any that I know of.
The "casing material" are generally rare materials that add value to
the product. They are works of art that are also quite functional. I
know that trailer trash like you can't really appreciate fine art, so
don't even attempt a response.
Much less expensive
> products can actually perform much better.
Prove it.
The Koetsu is at best
> capable of decent performance and takes detailed set up to do it.
No it doesn't. I've owned three and it's very easy to extract great
performance from them. In fact, a Koetsu fits perfectly onto most Rega
arms. You don't even need a spacer.
>
> And as far as your buddy being the greatest turntable set up man
> alive, who cares? Setup is a constantly evolving thing, it isn't about
> what he can do but what he can instruct others to do, since playing
> vinyl is something that requires its practitioners to do themselves.
> Telling people otherwise is a huge disservice.
He holds clinics all the time. Could you be any more wrong in a single
post? This is why you're largely ignored on Usenet.