Paradigm CC-350 center channel any good?
ke...@icom.ca
I've currently got Paradigm Titans for the L/C/R channels
of the home theater system for AC-3 and Prologic.
I'm considering upgrading the center channel to the CC-350
for better quality sound. Is it any good?
I realize that the recommended center for the Titans is the CC-150
but I want to go with the CC-350 in case I upgrade the mains
in the future. I also realize that timbre matching is important
(but probably overrated according to some in SGHT).
My rationale is that I will probably get more satisfaction from a
decent, good quality center channel than from timbre matching a lesser
speaker.
My old Titans are rated at 88dB room sensitivity whereas the CC-350 is
rated at 90 dB. Does this mean that it will play louder given the same
power?
My system is a Yamaha 2090 with 100W to L/C/R.
Kevin Gillespie
I say go with it. I have the complete 5-channel Paradigm speaker system
(including the CC-300) and love it!
You can never overlook the importance of a good center speaker, especially
for 5-Channel sound.
The timbre match for your system is excellent, even with the Titans.
Actually, if you have a good quality Sub,
smaller main fronts aren't quite as important.
Kevin
Karen Kreutzfeld
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I totally agree. The mains really don't carry that much info anyways and I
really think you're much better off getting the cc350 vs. the 150 as long as
you don't mind the money.
In answer to your second question, yes, the center will play louder. What you
need to do is use a SPL meter with the receiver's(or a CD's)test tones and
bring down the level on the center to match the mains. Or you can just do it
by ear as I usually keep the center down a couple dB from equal level.
;)
ke...@icom.ca
ke...@icom.ca wrote:
>I'm considering upgrading the center channel to the CC-350
>for better quality sound. Is it any good?
What is considered a good price in Canada for the CC-350?
Anyone know what list price is and what the dealer gets it for?
Zsolt Major
Anything lower than 340 $CAN is a good price.
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ke...@icom.ca
die_junkmail...@sprint.ca (Zsolt Major) wrote:
>On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 02:49:47 GMT, ke...@icom.ca wrote:
>
>>ke...@icom.ca wrote:
>>
>>>I'm considering upgrading the center channel to the CC-350
>>>for better quality sound. Is it any good?
>>
>>What is considered a good price in Canada for the CC-350?
>>Anyone know what list price is and what the dealer gets it for?
>
>Anything lower than 340 $CAN is a good price.
Are you sure? 340 seems ok, but not great. I was quoted $320 cdn over
the phone. I suppose that if I went in person to negotiate, the price
would even be lower. Just wondering how much room the dealer has to
move on the price?
Zsolt Major
Yes you are right, i heard 319 as well, but also 350 and 337.
MSRP is 399.
(all $CAN)
Personally I think dealers who offer it for 320 are really desperate
for sales. (I heard they get it for 300, i might have heard BS
though.)
Ken Gregoire
I got a 350 for a centre channel and love it. This is my speaker
combination.
Speakers
Fronts - Paradigm Monitor 7's - 1 - 1" Tweeter, 2 - 6.5" Midrange's
Centre - Paradigm CC350 - 1 - 1" Tweeter, 2 - 6.5" Midrange's
Rears - Paradigm Mini Monitors - 1 - 1" Tweeter, 1 - 6.5" Midrange
Subwoofer - Energy ES10 - 1 - powered 10"
Cheers!
On Sat, 24 Jan 1998 02:40:24 GMT, ke...@icom.ca wrote:
>I've currently got Paradigm Titans for the L/C/R channels
>of the home theater system for AC-3 and Prologic.
>
>I'm considering upgrading the center channel to the CC-350
>for better quality sound. Is it any good?
>
Adrian D. Henderson
>
>Yes you are right, i heard 319 as well, but also 350 and 337.
>MSRP is 399.
>(all $CAN)
>
>Personally I think dealers who offer it for 320 are really desperate
>for sales. (I heard they get it for 300, i might have heard BS
>though.)
Hehehe
Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
paradigm items.
Adrian D. Henderson, BA
Email: had...@rogers.wave.ca
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bi...@descent.com
had...@rogers.wave.ca (Adrian D. Henderson) wrote:
>On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 01:39:24 GMT, die_junkmail...@sprint.ca
>(Zsolt Major) wrote:
>
>>
>>Yes you are right, i heard 319 as well, but also 350 and 337.
>>MSRP is 399.
>>(all $CAN)
>>
>>Personally I think dealers who offer it for 320 are really desperate
>>for sales. (I heard they get it for 300, i might have heard BS
>>though.)
>Hehehe
>
>Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
>make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
>paradigm items.
Well.....tell us.
Ed Norris
I believe you! But my suspicion is that it's no different for other
"non-mail-order" type of brands. Paradigm knows that there has to an
acceptable return for the dealers for them to viable long term. The
bottom line is that (IMO) Paradigm is a great buy, even at or near list
price.
Adrian D. Henderson wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:34 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
>
> >>Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
> >>make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
> >>paradigm items.
> >
> >Well.....tell us.
>
> Well, would you beleive me? Probably not unless you saw my dealer
> price list to prove the actual markup. Its confidential information,
> and I don't feel it would be appropriate to paste it all over the net
> :). As I said, there would probably be a sincere doubt layed over any
> costs i published. My only advice would be this to Canadian
> customers. Don't pay the merchants price, especially if you are in
> the Toronto area.
Adrian D. Henderson
bi...@descent.com
had...@rogers.wave.ca (Adrian D. Henderson) wrote:
>On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:34 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
>
>
>>>Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
>>>make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
>>>paradigm items.
>>
>>Well.....tell us.
>
>Well, would you beleive me? Probably not unless you saw my dealer
>price list to prove the actual markup. Its confidential information,
>and I don't feel it would be appropriate to paste it all over the net
>:). As I said, there would probably be a sincere doubt layed over any
>costs i published. My only advice would be this to Canadian
>customers. Don't pay the merchants price, especially if you are in
>the Toronto area.
Ok, let's put it this way.
Around what price range should one pay for the CC-350 in western
Canada and know that they didn't get gouged? Also, what is a good
price for the CC-450? So far, I've been quoted $300 and $400 CDN
respectively.
JD
>Well, would you beleive me? Probably not unless you saw my dealer
>price list to prove the actual markup. Its confidential information,
>and I don't feel it would be appropriate to paste it all over the net
Would it be half of the MSRP, like most wholesale/retail markups? I know that
computers have a really low markup of 10%, but I'm not sure of other
electronics.
Ed Norris
Without an "special" connections, I can get the CC-450 for around $435.00
U.S.
bi...@descent.com wrote:
> had...@rogers.wave.ca (Adrian D. Henderson) wrote:
>
> >On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:34 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
> >>>make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
> >>>paradigm items.
> >>
> >>Well.....tell us.
> >
> >Well, would you beleive me? Probably not unless you saw my dealer
> >price list to prove the actual markup. Its confidential information,
> >and I don't feel it would be appropriate to paste it all over the net
Kevin Neptune
Here in Dallas, TX. the local Paradigm dealer is recommending the LCR-450
instead of the CC-450 as a center channel speaker. It has the EXACT same
drivers and specifictaions except that the enclosure is square (actually
rectangular) versus the more "sculpted" CC-450. Per the dealer, it costs
Paradigm $50.00 more to make the CC-450 cabinet so they pass the cost on,
otherwise there is NO difference. So get an LCR-450 for the center channel
and save $50.00 US (the Paradigm/Reference sticker can be placed anywhere on
the front grille, ie., the center, etc.). Thought I pass this on.
JD wrote in message <34d0f...@news.westel.com>...
>>Well, would you beleive me? Probably not unless you saw my dealer
>>price list to prove the actual markup. Its confidential information,
>>and I don't feel it would be appropriate to paste it all over the net
>
Adrian D. Henderson
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:17:40 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
>had...@rogers.wave.ca (Adrian D. Henderson) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:34 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
>>>>make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
>>>>paradigm items.
>>>
>>>Well.....tell us.
>>
>>Well, would you beleive me? Probably not unless you saw my dealer
>>price list to prove the actual markup. Its confidential information,
>>and I don't feel it would be appropriate to paste it all over the net
>>:). As I said, there would probably be a sincere doubt layed over any
>>costs i published. My only advice would be this to Canadian
>>customers. Don't pay the merchants price, especially if you are in
>>the Toronto area.
>
>Ok, let's put it this way.
>
>Around what price range should one pay for the CC-350 in western
>Canada and know that they didn't get gouged? Also, what is a good
>price for the CC-450? So far, I've been quoted $300 and $400 CDN
>respectively.
Its a STEAL at $300. You won't find it any lower.
Adrian D. Henderson
On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:17:40 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
>had...@rogers.wave.ca (Adrian D. Henderson) wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:00:34 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
>>>>make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
>>>>paradigm items.
>>>
>>>Well.....tell us.
>>
>>Well, would you beleive me? Probably not unless you saw my dealer
>>price list to prove the actual markup. Its confidential information,
>>and I don't feel it would be appropriate to paste it all over the net
>>:). As I said, there would probably be a sincere doubt layed over any
>>costs i published. My only advice would be this to Canadian
>>customers. Don't pay the merchants price, especially if you are in
>>the Toronto area.
>
>Ok, let's put it this way.
>
>Around what price range should one pay for the CC-350 in western
>Canada and know that they didn't get gouged? Also, what is a good
>price for the CC-450? So far, I've been quoted $300 and $400 CDN
>respectively.
Errrrr, silly me. $400 for the reference? Probably still a good deal.
Over $500 MSRP on my last list
bi...@descent.com
Wow, Paradigms are a lot cheaper in Canada. Given that
I was quoted $400 cdn also without special connections and before even
negotiating, this would work out to only $270 US for the CC-450!
Ed Norris <ej...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>Without an "special" connections, I can get the CC-450 for around $435.00
>U.S.
>
>bi...@descent.com wrote:
>
bi...@descent.com
had...@rogers.wave.ca (Adrian D. Henderson) wrote:
>On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 03:17:40 GMT, bi...@descent.com wrote:
>
>>Around what price range should one pay for the CC-350 in western
>>Canada and know that they didn't get gouged? Also, what is a good
>>price for the CC-450? So far, I've been quoted $300 and $400 CDN
>>respectively.
>
>Its a STEAL at $300. You won't find it any lower.
You mean $300 is a steal for the CC-350 or the CC-450?
Paul Prior MD
>
>Well, you are way off on what 'they' get it for. It would probably
>make you sick if you saw the actual dealer cost on this, and other
>paradigm items.
Please, fill us in.
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