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[Art Sackman]

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[mINE109]

https://i.redd.it/slow-day-get-your-rage-on-with-the-maga-wheel-of-outrage-v0-52za2987bn2b1.jpg?

[Art Sackman]

On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:08:24 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> https://i.redd.it/slow-day-get-your-rage-on-with-the-maga-wheel-of-outrage-v0-52za2987bn2b1.jpg?

You looney tune lefties give me a lot of choices.

But sterilizing and dismembering children is at the top of the list.
And you even take "Pride" in it.

[ScottW]

I see Steve planning a new piano class promotion....free tuckwear.

Don't say we didn't warn him.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/target-plunges-10th-day-boycott-results-traffic-weakness-jpm-downgrade-adds-groom-and-doom

ScottW

[mINE109]

[Rufo] proposed that instead of saying “drag queens in schools,”
conservatives should use “trans stripper” to shift “the debate to
sexualization.” That way, the left “will find themselves defending
concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”

[Art Sackman]

You are conflating two different things,
I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
Let them perform in night clubs,

Drag queens are not approptiate for children.

[Fascist Flea]

The Super-Uptight Scaredy Shmoo intoned:

>
> Drag queens are not approptiate for children.
>

No wonder you drowned your children. Or was it because they
were about to rat you out to the Pedophile Police?

[mINE109]

No, that's you conflating public schools and library story time.

> Let them perform in night clubs,

> Drag queens are not approptiate for children.

Adult drag shows are not appropriate for children. Story time is not an
adult drag show.

"Drag queen" is a subset of costumed performer, many of which are
appropriate for children, or will your next moral panic be about
pantomime horses?

[Art Sackman]

On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> On 6/2/23 12:40 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 4:37:26 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >> On 6/1/23 1:29 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:08:24 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >>>> https://i.redd.it/slow-day-get-your-rage-on-with-the-maga-wheel-of-outrage-v0-52za2987bn2b1.jpg?
> >>>
> >>> You looney tune lefties give me a lot of choices.
> >>>
> >>> But sterilizing and dismembering children is at the top of the list.
> >>> And you even take "Pride" in it.
> >> [Rufo] proposed that instead of saying “drag queens in schools,”
> >> conservatives should use “trans stripper” to shift “the debate to
> >> sexualization.” That way, the left “will find themselves defending
> >> concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”
> >
> > You are conflating two different things,
> > I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
> No, that's you conflating public schools and library story time.
> > Let them perform in night clubs,
>

> > Drag queens are not appropriate for children.

> Adult drag shows are not appropriate for children. Story time is not an
> adult drag show.

Still, not appropriate for children.
QdRAG QUEENS ARE LIVING OUT THEIR FETISHES

>
> "Drag queen" is a subset of costumed performer, many of which are
> appropriate for children, or will your next moral panic be about
> pantomime horses?

Is that your latest kinky fetish?

Fetishes are not appropriate for childern

[Art Sackman]

On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

Drag queens are living out their fetishes.
Exhibitions of fetishes are not appropriate for children.

[mINE109]

On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 8:09:59 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 6/2/23 12:40 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 4:37:26 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>>>> On 6/1/23 1:29 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>>>> On Thursday, June 1, 2023 at 11:08:24 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>>>>>> https://i.redd.it/slow-day-get-your-rage-on-with-the-maga-wheel-of-outrage-v0-52za2987bn2b1.jpg?
>>>>>
>>>>> You looney tune lefties give me a lot of choices.
>>>>>
>>>>> But sterilizing and dismembering children is at the top of the list.
>>>>> And you even take "Pride" in it.
>>>> [Rufo] proposed that instead of saying “drag queens in schools,”
>>>> conservatives should use “trans stripper” to shift “the debate to
>>>> sexualization.” That way, the left “will find themselves defending
>>>> concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”
>>>
>>> You are conflating two different things,
>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
>> No, that's you conflating public schools and library story time.
>>> Let them perform in night clubs,
>>
>>> Drag queens are not appropriate for children.
>> Adult drag shows are not appropriate for children. Story time is not an
>> adult drag show.
>
> Still, not appropriate for children.

Reading children's stories to children is appropriate even if the reader
is wearing a costume while doing it.

> QdRAG QUEENS ARE LIVING OUT THEIR FETISHES

No, they're performing artists. You're mixing them up with the old
attitudes towards "transvestites" who were assumed to be fetishists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transvestic_fetishism

"Transvestic fetishism is a psychiatric diagnosis applied to men who are
thought to have an excessive sexual or erotic interest in
cross-dressing; this interest is often expressed in autoerotic behavior.
*It differs from cross-dressing for entertainment or other purposes that
do not involve sexual arousal.* Under the name transvestic disorder, it
is categorized as a paraphilia in the DSM-5."

>> "Drag queen" is a subset of costumed performer, many of which are
>> appropriate for children, or will your next moral panic be about
>> pantomime horses?

> Is that your latest kinky fetish?

Kink shaming? No.

> Fetishes are not appropriate for childern

Following the Rufo rules, I see, trying to make it look like I'm

[Art Sackman]

Grooming shaming

> > Fetishes are not appropriate for childern
> Following the Rufo rules, I see, trying to make it look like I'm
> "defending concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”

Huh?

[Fascist Flea]

Time for "let's pretend".

>
> > > Fetishes are not appropriate for childern
> > Following the Rufo rules, I see, trying to make it look like I'm
> > "defending concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”
> Huh?
>

I would have commented that nobody could possibly be that obtuse.
Then again, this is the Year of the Shmoo-Sack.

[mINE109]

On 6/2/23 6:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:

>>>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.

More Art:

> Grooming shaming

All-purpose smear word.

>>> Fetishes are not appropriate for childern
>> Following the Rufo rules, I see, trying to make it look like I'm
>> "defending concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”
>
> Huh?

For example, you just said "grooming shaming" because everyone's against
grooming, right? But what you're calling 'grooming' is simply existing
in public, representation.

This is a real slippery slope. A Montana anti-drag law was used as an
excuse to cancel a public speech by a trans person. Drag is not trans. A
lecture is not a drag show.

A golden oldie:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality

"A central idea of The Authoritarian Personality is that
authoritarianism is the result of a Freudian developmental model.
Excessively harsh and punitive parenting was posited to cause children
to feel immense anger towards their parents; yet fear of parental
disapproval or punishment caused people to not directly confront their
parents, but rather to identify with and idolize authority figures."

Better to bully than to be bullied.

[Art Sackman]

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> On 6/2/23 6:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> > On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >> On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
>
> >>>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
> More Art:
>
> > Grooming shaming
>
> All-purpose smear word.

FALSE grooming is exactly why the trans community is invading schools.
forcing their gender ideology (and who knows what else!) down the little kiddies throats,

> >>> Fetishes are not appropriate for childern
> >> Following the Rufo rules, I see, trying to make it look like I'm
> >> "defending concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”
> >
> > Huh?

> For example, you just said "grooming shaming" because everyone's against
> grooming, right? But what you're calling 'grooming' is simply existing
> in public, representation.

no no no
Its ideological force feeding
it has no place in schools
even representation has no place in schnooks.

>
> This is a real slippery slope. A Montana anti-drag law was used as an
> excuse to cancel a public speech by a trans person. Drag is not trans. A
> lecture is not a drag show.
>

We don't need either one in schoold

> A golden oldie:
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
>
> "A central idea of The Authoritarian Personality is that
> authoritarianism is the result of a Freudian developmental model.
> Excessively harsh and punitive parenting was posited to cause children
> to feel immense anger towards their parents; yet fear of parental
> disapproval or punishment caused people to not directly confront their
> parents, but rather to identify with and idolize authority figures."
>
> Better to bully than to be bullied.

Its the trans that are doing the bullying.

Case in point:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dallas-requires-officials-to-use-preferred-pronouns-docs-reveal/ar-AA1c0mdT

[mINE109]

On 6/3/23 11:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 6/2/23 6:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>>>> On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>
>>>>>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
>> More Art:
>>
>>> Grooming shaming
>>
>> All-purpose smear word.
>
> FALSE grooming is exactly why the trans community is invading schools.
> forcing their gender ideology (and who knows what else!) down the little kiddies throats,

Gender identity is inherent. You can't say you're for "live and let
live" if you claim appearing in public is recruitment.

>>>>> Fetishes are not appropriate for childern
>>>> Following the Rufo rules, I see, trying to make it look like I'm
>>>> "defending concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”
>>>
>>> Huh?
>
>> For example, you just said "grooming shaming" because everyone's against
>> grooming, right? But what you're calling 'grooming' is simply existing
>> in public, representation.
>
> no no no
> Its ideological force feeding

By existing.

> it has no place in schools
> even representation has no place in schnooks.

There, you've said it.

>> This is a real slippery slope. A Montana anti-drag law was used as an
>> excuse to cancel a public speech by a trans person. Drag is not trans. A
>> lecture is not a drag show.

> We don't need either one in schoold

So no trans allowed in schools? You'd fire trans teachers? Would you
expel trans kids? or just send them to special schools? Maybe a camp?

>> A golden oldie:
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
>>
>> "A central idea of The Authoritarian Personality is that
>> authoritarianism is the result of a Freudian developmental model.
>> Excessively harsh and punitive parenting was posited to cause children
>> to feel immense anger towards their parents; yet fear of parental
>> disapproval or punishment caused people to not directly confront their
>> parents, but rather to identify with and idolize authority figures."
>>
>> Better to bully than to be bullied.
>
>
> Its the trans that are doing the bullying.

More Adorno:

"Moreover, the book suggested that authoritarianism was rooted in
suppressed homosexuality, which was redirected into outward hostility
towards the father, which was, in turn, suppressed for fear of being
infantilized and castrated by the father."

> Case in point:
>
> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dallas-requires-officials-to-use-preferred-pronouns-docs-reveal/ar-AA1c0mdT

Required pronouns? Is that all you've got? Common courtesy?

https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021

[ScottW]

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 9:24:37 AM UTC-7, mINE109 wrote:
> On 6/3/23 11:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >> On 6/2/23 6:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >>>> On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
> >> More Art:
> >>
> >>> Grooming shaming
> >>
> >> All-purpose smear word.
> >
> > FALSE grooming is exactly why the trans community is invading schools.
> > forcing their gender ideology (and who knows what else!) down the little kiddies throats,
> Gender identity is inherent.

BS, very hard to differentiate between inherent and indoctrinated gender dysphoria.

ScottW

[Art Sackman]

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:24:37 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> On 6/3/23 11:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >> On 6/2/23 6:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >>>> On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
> >> More Art:
> >>
> >>> Grooming shaming
> >>
> >> All-purpose smear word.
> >
> > FALSE grooming is exactly why the trans community is invading schools.
> > forcing their gender ideology (and who knows what else!) down the little kiddies throats,
> Gender identity is inherent. You can't say you're for "live and let
> live" if you claim appearing in public is recruitment.
> >>>>> Fetishes are not appropriate for childern
> >>>> Following the Rufo rules, I see, trying to make it look like I'm
> >>>> "defending concepts and words that are deeply disturbing to most people.”
> >>>
> >>> Huh?
> >
> >> For example, you just said "grooming shaming" because everyone's against
> >> grooming, right? But what you're calling 'grooming' is simply existing
> >> in public, representation.
> >
> > no no no
> > Its ideological force feeding


> By existing.

you are very welcome to exist.
Just stay away from the kiddies.

> > it has no place in schools
> > even representation has no place in schnooks.
> There, you've said it.
> >> This is a real slippery slope. A Montana anti-drag law was used as an
> >> excuse to cancel a public speech by a trans person. Drag is not trans. A
> >> lecture is not a drag show.
>
> > We don't need either one in schoold
> So no trans allowed in schools? You'd fire trans teachers? Would you
> expel trans kids? or just send them to special schools? Maybe a camp?

no not what I said.
No adult groomers and fetishists, that's what I said.

> >> A golden oldie:
> >>
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
> >>
> >> "A central idea of The Authoritarian Personality is that
> >> authoritarianism is the result of a Freudian developmental model.
> >> Excessively harsh and punitive parenting was posited to cause children
> >> to feel immense anger towards their parents; yet fear of parental
> >> disapproval or punishment caused people to not directly confront their
> >> parents, but rather to identify with and idolize authority figures."
> >>
> >> Better to bully than to be bullied.

that is why I am counterpunching back at you six times more strong than you punch me.

> >
> >
> > Its the trans that are doing the bullying.
> More Adorno:
>
> "Moreover, the book suggested that authoritarianism was rooted in
> suppressed homosexuality, which was redirected into outward hostility
> towards the father, which was, in turn, suppressed for fear of being
> infantilized and castrated by the father."

gobbledygook

> > Case in point:
> >
> > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dallas-requires-officials-to-use-preferred-pronouns-docs-reveal/ar-AA1c0mdT
> Required pronouns? Is that all you've got? Common courtesy?
>

"Required" is NOT common courtesy, it is compelled speech, and not free speech

> https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021

Compelling speech is fatal violence. whatever that is!

[Art Sackman]

On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:24:37 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

> On 6/3/23 11:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >> On 6/2/23 6:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >>>> On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>
> >>>>>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
> >> More Art:
> >>
> >>> Grooming shaming
> >>
> >> All-purpose smear word.
> >
> > FALSE grooming is exactly why the trans community is invading schools.
> > forcing their gender ideology (and who knows what else!) down the little kiddies throats,

> Gender identity is inherent. You can't say you're for "live and let
> live" if you claim appearing in public is recruitment.

Putting on shows in front of kids goes way beyond appearing in public.
You are welcome to shop in the supermarket.
Stay out of schools and kiddie programs.

[mINE109]

There's no reason for LGBTQ to stay away from children as such. And the
next step is forbid being in public as bathroom bills would do.

>>> it has no place in schools
>>> even representation has no place in schnooks.
>> There, you've said it.
>>>> This is a real slippery slope. A Montana anti-drag law was used as an
>>>> excuse to cancel a public speech by a trans person. Drag is not trans. A
>>>> lecture is not a drag show.
>>
>>> We don't need either one in schoold
>> So no trans allowed in schools? You'd fire trans teachers? Would you
>> expel trans kids? or just send them to special schools? Maybe a camp?
>
> no not what I said.
> No adult groomers and fetishists, that's what I said.

You're equating LGBTQ with "groomers and fetishists." You're ignoring
that some school children are also LGBTQ.

>>>> A golden oldie:
>>>>
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authoritarian_Personality
>>>>
>>>> "A central idea of The Authoritarian Personality is that
>>>> authoritarianism is the result of a Freudian developmental model.
>>>> Excessively harsh and punitive parenting was posited to cause children
>>>> to feel immense anger towards their parents; yet fear of parental
>>>> disapproval or punishment caused people to not directly confront their
>>>> parents, but rather to identify with and idolize authority figures."
>>>>
>>>> Better to bully than to be bullied.
>
> that is why I am counterpunching back at you six times more strong than you punch me.

That's what I meant when I said you're hurting yourself. And I'm not
punching you, just showing your justifications to be false.

>>> Its the trans that are doing the bullying.
>> More Adorno:
>>
>> "Moreover, the book suggested that authoritarianism was rooted in
>> suppressed homosexuality, which was redirected into outward hostility
>> towards the father, which was, in turn, suppressed for fear of being
>> infantilized and castrated by the father."
>
> gobbledygook

The castration anxieties seem apropos, what with all your going on about
mutilation and chopping things off. Sure, Freud is passe, but still...

[mINE109]

On 6/3/23 7:56 PM, Art Sackman wrote:

>>> Case in point:
>>>
>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/dallas-requires-officials-to-use-preferred-pronouns-docs-reveal/ar-AA1c0mdT

>> Required pronouns? Is that all you've got? Common courtesy?
>
>
> "Required" is NOT common courtesy, it is compelled speech, and not
> free speech

Not using preferred address is discourteous. You are free to not work as
a Dallas official if you can't follow the rules.

>> https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-transgender-and-gender-non-conforming-community-in-2021

> Compelling speech is fatal violence. whatever that is!

You're sad you might have to correctly gender someone, that someone is
worried about being killed or beaten. Winner: not you.

[mINE109]

Reading books wearing a costume. Still not "recruitment" and I didn't
miss your attempt to equate being at a school with child abuse.

> You are welcome to shop in the supermarket.
> Stay out of schools and kiddie programs.

It's all for show. Schools already have dress codes for teachers.

[Art Sackman]

On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 3:23:41 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> On 6/3/23 7:59 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 12:24:37 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >> On 6/3/23 11:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 11:03:34 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >>>> On 6/2/23 6:34 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>>>> On Friday, June 2, 2023 at 11:11:54 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> >>>>>> On 6/2/23 9:09 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>>>>> I don't want attired drag queens in public schools.
> >>>> More Art:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Grooming shaming
> >>>>
> >>>> All-purpose smear word.
> >>>
> >>> FALSE grooming is exactly why the trans community is invading schools.
> >>> forcing their gender ideology (and who knows what else!) down the little kiddies throats,
> >
> >> Gender identity is inherent. You can't say you're for "live and let
> >> live" if you claim appearing in public is recruitment.
> >
> >
> > Putting on shows in front of kids goes way beyond appearing in public.
> Reading books wearing a costume. Still not "recruitment" and I didn't
> miss your attempt to equate being at a school with child abuse.

because you are throwing your agenda on them, which they
don'y need to see. Its inappropriate for that age group.

> > You are welcome to shop in the supermarket.
> > Stay out of schools and kiddie programs.
> It's all for show. Schools already have dress codes for teachers.

well, there is that monster prosthetic boob crossdresser/trans/whatever up in Canada.


We don't need your kind of show.
Keep LGBT+ advocates out of schools. They don't need to be there.
Stay away from the kiddies. The only reason they do this is to groom.

Live your lives on your own as adults, i have no interest in oppressing you,
until you start messing with children.

You guys and dolls can lead your happy lives without parading yourselves
in front of children.

[mINE109]

On 6/4/23 4:52 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 3:23:41 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:

>>>> Gender identity is inherent. You can't say you're for "live and let
>>>> live" if you claim appearing in public is recruitment.

>>> Putting on shows in front of kids goes way beyond appearing in public.
>> Reading books wearing a costume. Still not "recruitment" and I didn't
>> miss your attempt to equate being at a school with child abuse.
>
> because you are throwing your agenda on them, which they
> don'y need to see. Its inappropriate for that age group.

It's not inappropriate for children to see adults in costume reading
books. And "agenda" = "existing in public"

>>> You are welcome to shop in the supermarket.
>>> Stay out of schools and kiddie programs.
>> It's all for show. Schools already have dress codes for teachers.
>
> well, there is that monster prosthetic boob crossdresser/trans/whatever up in Canada.

Yes, you all love to nut-pick. You're not trying to ban females with
boob jobs from schools.

> We don't need your kind of show.
> Keep LGBT+ advocates out of schools. They don't need to be there.
> Stay away from the kiddies. The only reason they do this is to groom.

A portion of those children are LGBTQ.

> Live your lives on your own as adults, i have no interest in oppressing you,
> until you start messing with children.

By existing in public.

> You guys and dolls can lead your happy lives without parading yourselves
> in front of children.

Can't be happy if you're not allowed to exist.

[ScottW]

That sounds so pedophilic.

ScottW

[mINE109]

No, drag is an art form. You're mixing it up with old-school
transvestites. I suppose you're going to continue repeating this canard.

[Fascist Flea]

mINE109 wrote:
>
> >> "Drag queen" is a subset of costumed performer, many of which are
> >> appropriate for children, or will your next moral panic be about
> >> pantomime horses?
> >
> > Drag queens are living out their fetishes.
> > Exhibitions of fetishes are not appropriate for children.
> No, drag is an art form. You're mixing it up with old-school
> transvestites. I suppose you're going to continue repeating this canard.
>

Just because something is false is no reason not to repeat it.
Dumpster leads the way, and the MAGA morons bleat along compliantly.
Remember "drain the swamp"? Dumpy did the opposite, along with his
coterie of grifters and thieves. Nonetheless, he claimed success. Same
with "rebuilding the military" - utter nonsense, debunked hundreds of
times, but he continues to repeat it. And don't even start with "witch hunt",
my pretties.

[Art Sackman]

you can exist just fine without pushing your agenda onto other people's children.

[Art Sackman]

v
> No, drag is an art form. You're mixing it up with old-school
> transvestites. I suppose you're going to continue repeating this canard.

Strip tease is an art form.
Both drag and strip tease are not suitable for children.

Keep your fetish away from other people's children.

[Fascist Flea]

Shmoo-Sack has an intractable infection of stubbornness. Or stupidity.
Or religious fascism. Or all of the above...

>
> you can exist just fine without pushing your agenda onto other people's children.
>

"Agenda"? WTF are you babbling about, moron?

[mINE109]

On 6/6/23 3:51 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> v
>> No, drag is an art form. You're mixing it up with old-school
>> transvestites. I suppose you're going to continue repeating this canard.
>
> Strip tease is an art form.

There's no "Strip Tease Story Hour."

> Both drag and strip tease are not suitable for children.

Book reading is.

> Keep your fetish away from other people's children.

No fetishes involved no matter how many times you misapply the word.

[Art Sackman]

On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 9:58:08 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
> On 6/6/23 3:51 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> > v
> >> No, drag is an art form. You're mixing it up with old-school
> >> transvestites. I suppose you're going to continue repeating this canard.
> >
> > Strip tease is an art form.
> There's no "Strip Tease Story Hour."
> > Both drag and strip tease are not suitable for children.
> Book reading is.

not by dragsters.
Nor by naked people having sex.
Thseobjection is not to the books,

> > Keep your fetish away from other people's children.
> No fetishes involved no matter how many times you misapply the word.

Maybe you're right, lets teach the kiddies how a drag queen prepares for his "performance art".

this is an instructional video on how to tuck, how
to dress up, and how to carry yourself as a drag queen
some frontal nudity, no sex acts,

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=816611165

[Art Sackman]

On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 10:16:56 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>

> Can't be happy if you're not allowed to exist.

More like the whiny "can't exist if not allowed to be happy"

[mINE109]

On 6/7/23 11:43 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 9:58:08 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 6/6/23 3:51 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>> v
>>>> No, drag is an art form. You're mixing it up with old-school
>>>> transvestites. I suppose you're going to continue repeating this canard.
>>>
>>> Strip tease is an art form.
>> There's no "Strip Tease Story Hour."
>>> Both drag and strip tease are not suitable for children.
>> Book reading is.
>
> not by dragsters.

Wrong.

> Nor by naked people having sex.

Not happening.

> Thseobjection is not to the books,

Yes, it's to men dressed in women's clothes.

>>> Keep your fetish away from other people's children.
>> No fetishes involved no matter how many times you misapply the word.
>
> Maybe you're right, lets teach the kiddies how a drag queen prepares for his "performance art".

No worse than watching an actor put on makeup and costume.

> this is an instructional video on how to tuck, how
> to dress up, and how to carry yourself as a drag queen
> some frontal nudity, no sex acts,

Nudity is not appropriate for schools or library children's hour.

> https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=816611165

Yes, your antipathy to drag has led you to watch pornhub videos about
drag. Why not something a little nicer?

Andrew in Drag:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf_l3EGQvL8

No, not that Andrew in drag:

https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2016/10/giuliani-dressed-drag-trump-couldnt-keep-mouth-off-either/

[mINE109]

You're out of replies.

[Art Sackman]

say that again!

If you are unhappy, I am glad.
If I made you unhappy, I am doubly glad.

Happy or not, you exist

[mINE109]

On 6/7/23 4:07 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 2:35:12 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 6/7/23 12:33 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 5, 2023 at 10:16:56 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Can't be happy if you're not allowed to exist.
>>>
>>> More like the whiny "can't exist if not allowed to be happy"
>> You're out of replies.
>
> say that again!

Sure, echolalia and babbling remain options for you.

> If you are unhappy, I am glad.
> If I made you unhappy, I am doubly glad.
>
> Happy or not, you exist

You overestimate your effect on your reader. "Pity" or "sorrow" are
better descriptions of what you inspire.

[Art Sackman]

Sounds like you have been bound, tucked and castrated.
Sorry to hear about that.

[Art Sackman]

You can't surgically turn a cabbage into a watermelon
Hormones don't do it either.
However, such attempts may leave the cabbage infertile.
No such thing as fruit (or fruitcake) affirming surgery

[mINE109]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruciferous_vegetables

[Art Sackman]

you got me! I'm busted!
It said right in there that cabbages can be turned into watermelons!

NOT!!!!!!!!!!

[mINE109]

You missed the point. Cruciferous vegetables are the same species
expressed differently.

https://www.encyclopedia.com/food/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/cabbage-and-crucifer-plants

"[B]roccoli, brussels sprouts, cabbage, cauliflower, collards, kale, and
kohlrabi belong to the same species (Brassica oleracea L.) in the
Brassicaceae or mustard family."

Looking at the genes can't tell you if you've got kale or cauliflower.

[Art Sackman]

I doubt that.
If the genes were identical you would have the same thing, given identical stages in life.

What does all that have to do with watermelon?

[mINE109]

Species can have diverse gene expression.

> What does all that have to do with watermelon?

That's a question for you since you brought it up.

[Art Sackman]

> You missed the point. Cruciferous vegetables are the same species
> expressed differently.
>

I didn't know that cabbages and Kale were capable of self expression.
Is a cabbage a him, or a her, or a they?

> Looking at the genes can't tell you if you've got kale or cauliflower.

Looking at the human genes tells you if you've got a man or woman.

[Art Sackman]

>
> Looking at the genes can't tell you if you've got kale or cauliflower.

FALSE!

Through their work, Arias and Niederhuth found 3,958 expressed genes that separated kale from cabbage and TO1000. Some of these differences were in genes that regulate vegetative and reproductive transitions — things that create the very different look of cabbage versus kale.

https://bondlsc.missouri.edu/2021/04/28/lab-explores-link-between-genetic-differences-and-domestication-in-kale/#:~:text=Through%20their%20work%2C%20Arias%20and%20Niederhuth%20found%203%2C958,genes%20they%20found%20in%20kale%20were%20particularly%20interesting.

[mINE109]

On 6/11/23 8:29 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>
>
>> You missed the point. Cruciferous vegetables are the same species
>> expressed differently.
>>
>
> I didn't know that cabbages and Kale were capable of self expression.
> Is a cabbage a him, or a her, or a they?

Go ahead, ask one.

>> Looking at the genes can't tell you if you've got kale or cauliflower.
>
> Looking at the human genes tells you if you've got a man or woman.

No, that's not always true.

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/16324-intersex

[mINE109]

On 6/11/23 8:36 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>> Looking at the genes can't tell you if you've got kale or
>> cauliflower.
>
> FALSE!
>
> Through their work, Arias and Niederhuth found 3,958 expressed genes
> that separated kale from cabbage and TO1000. Some of these
> differences were in genes that regulate vegetative and reproductive
> transitions — things that create the very different look of cabbage
> versus kale.
>
> https://bondlsc.missouri.edu/2021/04/28/lab-explores-link-between-genetic-differences-and-domestication-in-kale/

Well-done! Except this refers to gene expression, which involves
switching on or off genes in common. You've made my point in that these
are the same genetic species with very different expressions.

I accept these are kale vs cabbage, not cauliflower.

[Art Sackman]

That is a mutation.

[Art Sackman]

Your head is definitely cabbage,
You are a cabbagehead.

[mINE109]

Still a human. Go read your old X-Men comics to see how your attitude
can go, plus bonus Morlock content.

[mINE109]

SCTV fan? Or Kids in the Hall?

[Art Sackman]

Some humans have been born with six fingers, four fingers, no fingers, three feet,
attached to a twin human, some with two heads, and even one with no brain who is named Steve.
That does not confer upon them a category.
WE CAN SAFELY SAY THAT HUMANS HAVE TWO LEGS, TWO ARMS, FIVE
FINGERS ON EACH HAND, AND ARE OF ONE OF TWO SEXES, EITHER MALE OR FEMALE.

[Art Sackman]

Merrian Webster
cabbagehead
noun
1
: the compact head formed by the leaves of a cabbage
2
: a thick-witted person
3
: an abnormal growth in rutabagas caused by the larvae of a gall midge (Contarinia nasturtii) feeding in the basal part of the stalks

First Known Use
1682, in the meaning defined at sense 2


but not this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_Alley

[mINE109]

On 6/14/23 11:22 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 6:16:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 6/13/23 5:06 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>> On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 10:38:07 AM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>>>> On 6/11/23 8:29 PM, Art Sackman wrote:
>>
>>>>>> You missed the point. Cruciferous vegetables are the same
>>>>>> species expressed differently.
>>
>>>>> I didn't know that cabbages and Kale were capable of self
>>>>> expression. Is a cabbage a him, or a her, or a they?
>>>> Go ahead, ask one.
>>>>>> Looking at the genes can't tell you if you've got kale or
>>>>>> cauliflower.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking at the human genes tells you if you've got a man or
>>>>> woman.
>>>> No, that's not always true.
>>>>
>>>> https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/16324-intersex
>>>
>>> That is a mutation.
>> Still a human. Go read your old X-Men comics to see how your
>> attitude can go, plus bonus Morlock content.
>
> Some humans have been born with six fingers, four fingers, no
> fingers, three feet, attached to a twin human, some with two heads,
> and even one with no brain who is named Steve.

All still human with the same genes. Calling BS on "three feet."

> That does not confer upon them a category. WE CAN SAFELY SAY THAT
> HUMANS HAVE TWO LEGS, TWO ARMS, FIVE FINGERS ON EACH HAND, AND ARE OF
> ONE OF TWO SEXES, EITHER MALE OR FEMALE.

Not all humans...

[mINE109]

On 6/14/23 11:28 AM, Art Sackman wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 6:18:17 PM UTC-4, mINE109 wrote:
>> On 6/13/23 5:07 PM, Art Sackman wrote:

>>> You are a cabbagehead.
>> SCTV fan? Or Kids in the Hall?

> but not this
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabbage_Alley

There's the whimsy and cultural awareness one hopes for on RAO. I see
your Meters and raise you:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27Homme_à_tête_de_chou