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Michel BLOISE

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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Hello,

I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
(with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of sound"
that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).

Thanks for sending your opinions to: mbl...@worldnet.fr

MB

P.S.: XLR input and output are required.

PAUL MACCA

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Oct 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/3/98
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Michel BLOISE <mbl...@worldnet.fr> wrote:

Have you looked at and listened to the LS15?

Johnny Y Boey

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Oct 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/4/98
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Michel BLOISE wrote:

> Hello,


>
> I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of sound"
> that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
>

If the incredible Ref1 is too much, the next step down (tube-balanced)
preamp you should be looking at is the Sonic Frontiers Line3. That's from an
ARC and Krell guy.


JSpence719

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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You might want to try the BAT VK5i and VK3i, they are both fully balanced and
remote controlled. The three I think is for 2500

give it a try

Spence

rne...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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In article <19981003163440...@ng88.aol.com>,
paul...@aol.com (PAUL MACCA) wrote:

>
> Michel BLOISE <mbl...@worldnet.fr> wrote:
>
> >I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> >(with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> >comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> >One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of sound"
> >that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
> >
> >Thanks for sending your opinions to: mbl...@worldnet.fr
> >
> >MB
> >
> >P.S.: XLR input and output are required.
> >
> >
>
> Have you looked at and listened to the LS15?
>
Or the new LS25 -- just out? $4995. Anyone?

Bob Neill/Worcester,MA

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rne...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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In article <3617FD1A...@ix.netcom.com>,
Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Michel BLOISE wrote:
>
> > Hello,

> >
> > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of sound"
> > that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
> >
>
> If the incredible Ref1 is too much, the next step down (tube-balanced)
> preamp you should be looking at is the Sonic Frontiers Line3. That's from an
> ARC and Krell guy.
>
Johnny: Have you heard the new LS25 yet? Curious whether or not
changes anything?

Bob Neill

Kevin Deal / Upscale Audio

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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Michel BLOISE wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of sound"
> that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
>
> Thanks for sending your opinions to: mbl...@worldnet.fr
>
> MB
>
> P.S.: XLR input and output are required.

You're going to have to listen to them. There has never been a "family"
resemblance to the sound of ARC preamps. They seem to change flavor
from model to model and year to year.

Johnny Booey mentioned the Sonic Frontiers Line 3. That is a preamp
that is so spectacular for the price. Dual mono, outboard power supply,
weighs in at 73 lbs boxed.
Before buying I would check one out.


--
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Upscale Audio 2504 Spring Terrace, Upland, California 91784

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Fear3000

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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>Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of >sound"
that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).

JB, I thought Krell was the best? ;-)

Best wishes,
Fear3000

Johnny Y Boey

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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rne...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

> In article <3617FD1A...@ix.netcom.com>,


> Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

> > Michel BLOISE wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,


> > >
> > > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> > > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> > > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> > > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of sound"
> > > that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
> > >
> >

> > If the incredible Ref1 is too much, the next step down (tube-balanced)
> > preamp you should be looking at is the Sonic Frontiers Line3. That's from an
> > ARC and Krell guy.
> >
> Johnny: Have you heard the new LS25 yet? Curious whether or not
> changes anything?
>
>

haven't even seen it.


Johnny Y Boey

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Oct 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/5/98
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Fear3000 wrote:

> >Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of >sound"
> that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
>

> JB, I thought Krell was the best? ;-)
>

before the snide comment, read the original message again. When did Krell come
out with a tube preamp? Please enlighten.


PAUL MACCA

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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fear...@aol.com (Fear3000) wrote:

>>Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of >sound"
>that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
>
>JB, I thought Krell was the best? ;-)

Well, the guy who asked the question wanted to hear about "tubed" line-stages.

Fear3000

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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>From: paul...@aol.com (PAUL MACCA)

> fear...@aol.com (Fear3000) wrote:
>

>>>Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
>> > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
>> > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
>> > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of >sound"
>>that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).

I wrote:

>>JB, I thought Krell was the best? ;-)

Paul:

>Well, the guy who asked the question wanted to hear about "tubed"
>line-stages.

My point exactly!

Best wishes,
Fear3000

Fear3000

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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>From: Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com>

>Fear3000 wrote:
>
>> >Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
>> > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
>> > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
>> > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of
>>sound"
>> that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).

I wrote:

>> JB, I thought Krell was the best? ;-)
>>

JB:

>before the snide comment, read the original message again. When did >Krell
come out with a tube preamp? Please enlighten.
>

Why seek tubes if you _constantly_ post that Krell rules all. Make up your
mind digital boy.

Best wishes,
Fear3000

BTW Most newer ARC gear( other than the LS-7) sounds like ss. Shows how much
you know !

Fear3000

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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>From: Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com>

>When did Krell come out with a tube preamp? Please enlighten

Dan D'Agustino (sic ? ) does not believe in tubes. So much for your God !

Best wishes,
Fear3000

rne...@my-dejanews.com

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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In article <19981006062234...@ng155.aol.com>,
fear...@aol.com (Fear3000) wrote:
>
I don't tune in to this network very often and this exchange
is the reason. I can't believe Fear 3000 could pick a fight
with JB just because he gave the poor guy looking for a tube
amp a decent answer. A very decent answer. But then, I guess
if your alias is Fear. See you guys, back to RAHE.


> >From: Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com>
>

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Johnny Y Boey

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Fear3000 wrote:

> >From: Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com>
>
> >Fear3000 wrote:
> >
> >> >Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> >> > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> >> > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> >> > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of
> >>sound"
> >> that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
>
> I wrote:
>
> >> JB, I thought Krell was the best? ;-)
> >>
>
> JB:
>
> >before the snide comment, read the original message again. When did >Krell
> come out with a tube preamp? Please enlighten.
> >
>
> Why seek tubes if you _constantly_ post that Krell rules all. Make up your
> mind digital boy.
>

DEAD WRONG!!!

1) Krell rules in SS, while ARC rules in tubes. I like SS better, but dig tubes
all the same.

2) I have a nice tt setup. I like digital better, but dig vinyl all the same.


> Best wishes,
> Fear3000
>
> BTW Most newer ARC gear( other than the LS-7) sounds like ss. Shows how much
> you know !


DEAD WRONG!!! They are very neutral but will never sound like SS. You are so
ignorant. I own the Ref1 and VT200, and have also had with the LS15 and VT100
and played with the LS22. The LS7 (which I recently sold after a long time) is
very neutral as well.


JB


Johnny Y Boey

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Fear3000 wrote:

> >From: paul...@aol.com (PAUL MACCA)


>
> > fear...@aol.com (Fear3000) wrote:
> >
>
> >>>Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I am looking for an high-end Audio Research (Line) tube preamplifier
> >> > (with remote), and I would like to one of you has performed a
> >> > comparative listening review of those preamp (excluding the Reference
> >> > One which is too expensive for me), in order to give the "kind of >sound"
> >>that they provide (even if the best is to be neutral).
>
> I wrote:
>
> >>JB, I thought Krell was the best? ;-)
>

> Paul:
>
> >Well, the guy who asked the question wanted to hear about "tubed"
> >line-stages.
>
> My point exactly!

Your point? You have no point!!! If you know that he wants a tube preamp, why did
you want me to recommend Krells?


Johnny Y Boey

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Oct 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM10/6/98
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Fear3000 wrote:

> >From: Johnny Y Boey <jb...@ix.netcom.com>
>

> >When did Krell come out with a tube preamp? Please enlighten
>
> Dan D'Agustino (sic ? ) does not believe in tubes. So much for your God !
>

if you know that, then why the hell did you insist that I recommend Krell
preamps in this thread. Back off, loser.


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