A Gift For Gary, Richard & Randy
Paul Wagner
This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
of the Hitler Youth.
Please enjoy -- it's right up your alley(s)!
--Paul Wagner--
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THE NEW WORLD OF THE 21ST CENTURY:
THE FINAL VOYAGE
NEW BEGINNINGS OR WORLD ANNIHILATION?
Copyright © 1999 by Jeri Lynn Ball
Captains Clinton and Gore: Salvaging the Sunken German Ship;
Rechristening the American Version—The USS Clintanic
For years, nihilistic Nazi thugs pumped the Germans full of
mind-killing, ego-killing socialist doctrines in a deliberate
attempt to
shape their minds, to mold their character, and to transform them
from civilized human beings into a nation of hardened criminals,
cold-blooded killers, and brainless, obedient zombies. Not
comprehending that the soul-destroying socialist ideas were the root
cause of the decadence and degeneration, the Germans begged their
socialist government to restore order. Hitler obliged by
confiscating all guns and ammunition and creating the Gestapo, the
community police, the concentration camps, and the torture
chambers—the cornerstone of his Nazi Gangster Empire.
Our psychopathic co-captains Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and their
socialist-communist comrades at home and abroad, are navigating this
same socialist ship to a similar destination—a global totalitarian
community, i.e., a Nazi-fascist-communist Global Gangster Empire.
Like the Nazis, our nihilistic leaders have created a national
community and thousands of local socialist communities in order to
socialize and communize Americans... spreading the same Nazi
slogans, i.e.,
selfless service, the obligation to community, the duty to work for
the "common good," ad nauseam, but are implementing an array
of fascist, Nazi, and communist programs and strategies...using our
government-run schools and universities and the modern-day version
of the Hitler Youth, i.e., The Boys & Girls Clubs of America, to
shape the minds and
mold the character of youth; acquiring the power to choose the
career and residence of every American through the passage of
legislation, such as The School to Work Opportunities Act (SWO);
flooding the country with socialist rules and regulations and
instituting Nazi-communist environmental programs in order to gain
government control or ownership of land and production; and
achieving autocratic, ironhanded totalitarian government power over
the economic and political activities of the nation.
Just as Adolf Hitler's socialist communities spawned legions of
criminals, drug addicts, misfits, murderers, psychotics, and sexual
perverts, so Bill Clinton's and Al Gore's socialist communities have
become the breeding grounds of crime, of violence, of drug
addiction, of every kind of heinous depravity. The soaring teen
homicide and suicide, the growing gang warfare, the proliferation
of serious mental disorders, the mushrooming bureaucracy, the
explosion of government controls, the disintegration of the
educational system, the satanic cults and mystic crazes, the rising
homosexuality, promiscuity, and pornography, the spreading
hunger and homelessness, the broken homes, racial strife, crumbling
neighborhoods, the bloody massacres on school campuses—all
the outcome of their socialist propaganda and their
socialist-communist community system. Saturated with hatred,
addicted to
drugs, even children are becoming vicious, brutal, cold-blooded
killers.
Captains Clinton, Gore, et al. are planning to use Y2K, government
sponsored terrorism, organized crime, environmental "crises,"
and the "global economic crisis," among other things, to accomplish
the seizure of absolute power by the year 2000—or shortly
thereafter. These ruthless tyrants plan to declare a state of
emergency and martial law, abrogate individual rights, suppress
personal freedom, and create a police state to enforce its draconian
socialist laws. There can be no doubt that there will be a
bloody reign of terror, with massive bloodbaths and horrific destruction...
Captains Clinton, Gore, and their communist-socialist comrades at
home and abroad will take all Americans and every other nation to
world annihilation.
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greg pavlov
<paulw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
>
>My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
>paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
>of the Hitler Youth.
>
That's the sort of thing I alluded to. That does *not*
equate to anything from mainstream Dems or Republicans.
Greg Pavlov
Stewart Pinkerton
No, but it's just the kind of thing that 'nice guy' Wagner loves to
associate with them............
--
Stewart Pinkerton | Music is art, audio is engineering
Paul Wagner
Alluded to where, Greg, and how? I'm not following...
MrHONESTY
realize that our governments are puppets in the new world communist
regime!!!!
Steve Zipser
says...
> This whole article is a mindless piece of filth! Someday you will all
> realize that our governments are puppets in the new world communist
> regime!!!!
Huh? Go back to bed, and don't forget to seig heil, comrade ;-)
You are definitely rowing through the river of life and your oars aint
hittin the water, dude.
Zip
greg pavlov
<paulw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Alluded to where, Greg, and how? I'm not following...
... when I said
>The modern crop of conservatives exhibit a fundamental
>viciousness towards anyone they disagree with politically
>and/or philosophically. It's something that I have not seen
>in mainstream politics in the US since the Southern reaction
>to the civil rights movement of the `60s. Apparently the lack
>of a true external enemy requires the creation of many within.
.... and someone decided to blame it on Democrats
(I think; it was hard to tell what the logic was in bringing
them up)
Greg
Paul Wagner
Ah, I see -- yes, now I see the tie.
I think that behind them both is a toxic and primarily unconscious
force, the force that Americans have shown ourselves to want
to talk about less than any other -- that of class. Race, yes, is
also an issue, but if you listen carefully to racists, you'll get down
to their issuing behavioral descriptions which are also class-based.
The Democrats, in addition to having the nerve to defend the
interests of the working class and poor, have the double nerve
to mention the issue in the first place. Hence, I think, the vicious
response.
Gary Eickmeier
>
> Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
>
>
> My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
> paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> of the Hitler Youth.
Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
Gary Eickmeier
George M. Middius
> Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
Not all. Rational people are quite capable of loving the sinner
while hating the sin.
George M. Middius
Gary Eickmeier
Huh? Who's doing all this sinning?
Gary Eickmeier
George M. Middius
> > > Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
> >
> > Not all. Rational people are quite capable of loving the sinner
> > while hating the sin.
> Huh? Who's doing all this sinning?
Are you always this stupid, or are you practicing for a contest?
George M. Middius
Stewart Pinkerton
>Paul Wagner wrote:
>>
>> Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
>>
>> This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
>>
>> My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
>> paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
>> of the Hitler Youth.
>
>Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
Well, the Boy Scouts Association actually *does* have its origins in
the military training of a new generation of soldiers (which is what
scouts are, after all), the idea being to teach 'em woodcraft,
self-discipline and esprit de corps while they were still young and
impressionable. Baden-Powell was not exactly a left-wing sort of chap!
Gary Eickmeier
>
> Gary Bosemeier said:
>
> > >
> > > while hating the sin.
>
> > Huh? Who's doing all this sinning?
>
> Are you always this stupid, or are you practicing for a contest?
Answer the question.
Gary Eickmeier
George M. Middius
> > > > > Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
> > > > Not all. Rational people are quite capable of loving the sinner
> > > > while hating the sin.
> > > Huh? Who's doing all this sinning?
> > Are you always this stupid, or are you practicing for a contest?
> Answer the question.
Grow a brain.
George M. Middius
Gary Eickmeier
>
> Gary Eickmeier <geic...@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
> >Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
>
> Well, the Boy Scouts Association actually *does* have its origins in
> the military training of a new generation of soldiers (which is what
> scouts are, after all), the idea being to teach 'em woodcraft,
> self-discipline and esprit de corps while they were still young and
> impressionable. Baden-Powell was not exactly a left-wing sort of chap!
Right. I said liberals don't like them. They boo them trying to recite the
Pledge of Allegiance. Their "reasoning" is that they don't allow homosexual
troop leaders (!).
Gary Eickmeier
Gary Eickmeier
>
> Gary Bosemeier said:
>
>
> > > > > while hating the sin.
>
> > > > Huh? Who's doing all this sinning?
>
> > > Are you always this stupid, or are you practicing for a contest?
>
> > Answer the question.
>
> Grow a brain.
Just as I suspected. Challenge a lib who gets caught in his own logic and you
get no response.
Gary Eickmeier
George M. Middius
> > > > > > > Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
> >
> > > > > > Not all. Rational people are quite capable of loving the sinner
> > > > > > while hating the sin.
> >
> > > > > Huh? Who's doing all this sinning?
> >
> > > > Are you always this stupid, or are you practicing for a contest?
> >
> > > Answer the question.
> >
> > Grow a brain.
>
> Just as I suspected. Challenge a lib who gets caught in his own logic and you
> get no response.
Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
George M. Middius
MrHONESTY
thought I said is in no way connected!!!! P.S. Have you been drinking
again????
Steve Zipser wrote in message ...
Joe Duffy
George M. Middius <glan...@ipo.net> wrote:
>Gary Bosemeier said:
>
>> Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
>
>
>Not all. Rational people are quite capable of loving the sinner
>while hating the sin.
>
>
stringent scout-master requirements.
Joe
Steve Zipser
says...
> Paul Wagner wrote:
> >
> > Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
> >
> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
> >
> > My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> > of the Hitler Youth.
>
I liked being in the Boy Scouts. I enjoyed it immensely and learned a
lot.
Now maybe, as you allude, gary, conservatives like Boy Scouts. Does that
mean you are comming our of the closet?
Zip
Gary Eickmeier
> Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
> idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
> simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
Still no response.
Gary Eickmeier
waiting...
Gary Eickmeier
> I liked being in the Boy Scouts. I enjoyed it immensely and learned a
> lot.
>
> Now maybe, as you allude, gary, conservatives like Boy Scouts. Does that
> mean you are comming our of the closet?
No, it doesn't mean I'm "comming our of the closet." Conservatives don't believe
that homosexuals should be boy scout troop leaders. Do you?
Gary Eickmeier
Joe Duffy
Steve Zipser <z...@sunshinestereo.com> wrote:
>In article <39A2866D...@tampabay.rr.com>, geic...@tampabay.rr.com
>says...
>> Paul Wagner wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
>> >
>> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
>> >
>> > My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
>> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
>> > of the Hitler Youth.
>>
>> Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
>
>lot.
>
>Now maybe, as you allude, gary, conservatives like Boy Scouts. Does that
>mean you are comming our of the closet?
Oh, please keep the commies in
the closet!
Joe
Steve Zipser
says...
> Steve Zipser wrote:
>
> > I liked being in the Boy Scouts. I enjoyed it immensely and learned a
> > lot.
> >
> > Now maybe, as you allude, gary, conservatives like Boy Scouts. Does that
> > mean you are comming our of the closet?
>
> that homosexuals should be boy scout troop leaders. Do you?
>
> Gary Eickmeier
I do not care. To me it is a meaningless requirement - as long as it is
not visible to the troops (just my opinion).
Zip
mdryoon
>
> Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
>
> This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
Another "sky is falling" type of website. So what? Who cares?
> My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
> paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> of the Hitler Youth.
Boy and Girl Scouts are closer to Hitler Youth than the Boys & Girls
Club.
> Please enjoy -- it's right up your alley(s)!
How so?
Richard Yoon
Bill Watkins
says...
---
Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
Bill Watkins
trotsky
What would be the antecedent to "it" in your sentence above, Zippy?
George M. Middius
> > Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
> > idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
> > simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
> Still no response.
Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
> > No, it doesn't mean I'm "comming our of the closet." Conservatives don't believe
> > that homosexuals should be boy scout troop leaders. Do you?
> I do not care. To me it is a meaningless requirement - as long as it is
> not visible to the troops (just my opinion).
And why not, pray tell? While you're at it, why don't you define
"visible" for us. Remember that most TV men are straight.
George M. Middius
trotsky
Bill Watkins wrote:
>
> In article <39A304BE...@tampabay.rr.com>, geic...@tampabay.rr.com
> says...
> >
> >"George M. Middius" wrote:
> >
> >> Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
> >> idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
> >> simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
> >
> >Still no response.
> >
> >Gary Eickmeier
> >
> >waiting...
>
> ---
>
> Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
> face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
> the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
> in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
> to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
Where'd you find the apostrophe, Bill--in the Frank Zappa bin at a
record store?
George M. Middius
> > Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
> > face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
> > the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
> > in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
> > to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
> Where'd you find the apostrophe, Bill--in the Frank Zappa bin at a
> record store?
He's also indulging freely in Krooglish potion -- witness "strowing".
Anyway, Booby, what is the one thing a horse's ass doesn't look back
to see? That's you!
George M. Middius
Trotsky
"George M. Middius" wrote:
>
> trotsky said:
>
> > > Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
> > > face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
> > > the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
> > > in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
> > > to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
>
> > Where'd you find the apostrophe, Bill--in the Frank Zappa bin at a
> > record store?
>
> He's also indulging freely in Krooglish potion -- witness "strowing".
I missed that one. Is that something out of "The Canterbury Tales", or
what? These guys and their archaic words. Pretty soon Kroogey is going
to type some mangle combination of letters and say "So, that combination
of letters appears in the Dead Sea Scrolls."
As for Mr. Watkins, I'm a-feared he's had too much of the yellow snow.
Trotsky
Gary Quagmeier wrote:
>
>
> If you're not going to respond, please stop responding.
Arnii, you have some competition!
George M. Middius
> > Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
> > idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
> > simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
> If you're not going to respond, please stop responding. Then I'll know I won.
Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
> > Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
> > face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
> > the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
> > in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
> > to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
> I'm just trying to get him to tell me which group are the sinners - the boy
> scouts or the homosexuals. If he didn't really mean to say "sinners", then it
> was just a mindless expression. Obviously he's not going to commit himself and
> dig himself a deeper hole.
> Sweet victory!
I'll take that as a full and frank admission that you rate yourself
no sharper than Booby Wumpkins. So now I can give you the answer
you're so desirous of: The BSA are the sinners, and the liberals
don't hate them, but we do condemn the sin of black hatred.
Now don't you feel like an idiot? Wait, I guess that's a stupid
question to pose to Booby II.
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
dense fog of Boobiness. Looks like Krooglish isn't the only RAO
malady that's contagious.
> > I'll take that as a full and frank admission that you rate yourself
> > no sharper than Booby Wumpkins. So now I can give you the answer
> > you're so desirous of: The BSA are the sinners, and the liberals
> > don't hate them, but we do condemn the sin of black hatred.
> > Now don't you feel like an idiot? Wait, I guess that's a stupid
> > question to pose to Booby II.
> Now you've really got me confused. The Boy Scouts are the sinners for not
> wanting homosexual troop leaders?
Yes, Bosey. Hatred is sinful to liberals. Also to non-morons, which
explains why you're struggling so mightily to grasp this concept.
> Who defined that sin?
Good question. Obviously it wasn't a "conservative" or whatever
dimwits like you call yourselves.
> Liberals don't hate
> them, they just boo a bunch of kids reciting the pledge of allegiance for a
> joke?
I'm sorry, your train has derailed. You're both Krooglishizing and
randomizing. Please club yourself in the butt until your brains
start to leak out.
> Now, where does black hatred come in?
We've already covered that. Hatred is bad, or evil, or sinful;
black hatred is simply hatred with the ominous modifier black,
denoting revulsion and other stuff that "conservatives" think is
just A-OK.
> What kind of a nut case are you?
That does not compute. Please rephrase in human speech patterns,
Bosey-Bigot. You may also recite the pledge of allegiance if it'll
give you what you need.
George M. Middius
Gary Eickmeier
> Tell you what, Bosey -- you admit you're a mindless, drooling
> idiot on the same level as Booby Wumpkins, and I'll explain this
> simple little thing to your pathetic, simple self. Deal?
If you're not going to respond, please stop responding. Then I'll know I won.
Gary Eickmeier
Gary Eickmeier
> Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
> face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
> the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
> in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
> to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
I'm just trying to get him to tell me which group are the sinners - the boy
scouts or the homosexuals. If he didn't really mean to say "sinners", then it
was just a mindless expression. Obviously he's not going to commit himself and
dig himself a deeper hole.
Sweet victory!
Gary Eickmeier
Gary Eickmeier
> I'll take that as a full and frank admission that you rate yourself
> no sharper than Booby Wumpkins. So now I can give you the answer
> you're so desirous of: The BSA are the sinners, and the liberals
> don't hate them, but we do condemn the sin of black hatred.
>
> Now don't you feel like an idiot? Wait, I guess that's a stupid
> question to pose to Booby II.
Now you've really got me confused. The Boy Scouts are the sinners for not
wanting homosexual troop leaders? Who defined that sin? Liberals don't hate
them, they just boo a bunch of kids reciting the pledge of allegiance for a
joke? Now, where does black hatred come in? What kind of a nut case are you?
Gary Eickmeier
greg pavlov
<paulw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>I think that behind them both is a toxic and primarily unconscious
>force, the force that Americans have shown ourselves to want
>to talk about less than any other -- that of class. Race, yes, is
>also an issue, but if you listen carefully to racists, you'll get down
>to their issuing behavioral descriptions which are also class-based....
I suspect that you have come across descriptions of
various immigrant neighborhoods written in the 19th and
earlier 20th centuries. It is interesting how remarkably
similar they are to each other and to views of blacks,
and to the broader general anti-poor diatribes we encounter
nowadays. "They" were always victims of their own
behaviors and deserved whatever happened to them
(or didn't).
Greg.
greg pavlov
<geic...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
>
A lot of us liberals *were* Boy Scouts. Some are
still involved with them.
Greg.
Gary Eickmeier
>
> Bosey is struggling to see the dim light flickering through the
> dense fog of Boobiness. Looks like Krooglish isn't the only RAO
> malady that's contagious.
> > wanting homosexual troop leaders?
>
> explains why you're struggling so mightily to grasp this concept.
All right, I guess we're still not connecting here. The Boy Scouts of America
don't wish to have homosexual troop leaders. Now where does the hatred come in?
Gary Eickmeier
Paul Wagner
Yes, they're all boilerplate to the last detail. Plug in
"gays" and you find the same thing. As someone said
here recently, "different dog, same fleas."
Paul Wagner
>
> Paul Wagner wrote:
> >
> > Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
> >
> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
> >
> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> > of the Hitler Youth.
>
I'm a liberal AND an Eagle Scout, so you can drop that one.
Paul Wagner
>
> In article <al45qss4bli3pu0co...@4ax.com>,
> George M. Middius <glan...@ipo.net> wrote:
> >Gary Bosemeier said:
> >
> >> Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
> >
> >
> >while hating the sin.
> >
> >
> Translation: midjets love Boy Scouts but reject the
> stringent scout-master requirements.
>
Requirements which did not exist for the fifteen years
that I was involved with the Scouts, and which they
lied about existing in their court case.
The filthy stench of Reaganites lasts still...
Paul Wagner
>
> Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
> >
> > Gary Eickmeier <geic...@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
>
> > >Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
> >
> > Well, the Boy Scouts Association actually *does* have its origins in
> > the military training of a new generation of soldiers (which is what
> > scouts are, after all), the idea being to teach 'em woodcraft,
> > self-discipline and esprit de corps while they were still young and
> > impressionable. Baden-Powell was not exactly a left-wing sort of chap!
>
> Right. I said liberals don't like them. They boo them trying to recite the
> Pledge of Allegiance. Their "reasoning" is that they don't allow homosexual
> troop leaders (!).
The "reasoning" is the last phrase of the Pledge.
But then I guess you're too self-satisfied to even
look at that, aren't you?
Paul Wagner
>
> Steve Zipser wrote:
>
> > I liked being in the Boy Scouts. I enjoyed it immensely and learned a
> > lot.
> >
> > Now maybe, as you allude, gary, conservatives like Boy Scouts. Does that
> > mean you are comming our of the closet?
>
> that homosexuals should be boy scout troop leaders. Do you?
Conservatives also didnn't want Muslim troop leaders,
until a nationally-reported incident four years ago,
and didn't used to want black patrol leaders before
that, and before that, Jews.
Gotta hand it to you conservatives -- no matter what
the decade, you can always find some new bigotry
to justify, some new way to spread division, some
new way to induce fear. Guess that's all you really
have to offer, since that's the one constant in your
ongoing neurotic campaign to distract people from
the real issues by dividing them from each other.
Paul Wagner
>
> Paul Wagner wrote:
> >
> > Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
> >
> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
>
>
> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> > of the Hitler Youth.
>
> Club.
Neither are anywhere near.
>
> > Please enjoy -- it's right up your alley(s)!
>
> How so?
Well, you're the poster who tried the red-baiting tactic
of publicly using the name "Clinton/Castro," right?
mdryoon
>
> mdryoon wrote:
> >
> > Paul Wagner wrote:
> >
> > > My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
> > > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> > > of the Hitler Youth.
> >
> > Boy and Girl Scouts are closer to Hitler Youth than the Boys & Girls
> > Club.
>
> Neither are anywhere near.
The point is, Boy and Girl Scouts are closer to Hitler Youth than the
Boys & Girls Club.
> > > Please enjoy -- it's right up your alley(s)!
> >
> > How so?
>
> Well, you're the poster who tried the red-baiting tactic
> of publicly using the name "Clinton/Castro," right?
Look at how Elian was treated by Clinton. Clinton tried very hard to
get Elian away from his Miami relatives ASAP. Clinton then
sequestered Elian from virtually everyone except from Cuban officials
and people closely connected to Communist Cuba or anti-anti Castro
organizations. Furthermore, Newsmax did a FOIA request and found
documents that imply that the Clinton Administration was working with
Communist Cuba in the Elian case.
The evidence strongly implies that Clinton and Castro collaborated
with each other to get Elian back to Cuba. "Clinton/Castro" looks
very much like it applies in the Elian case.
Richard Yoon
George M. Middius
Wagsy takes an early lead with his heartfelt calumny against
"americanfreedompress.com":
> > > > My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
> > > > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> > > > of the Hitler Youth.
Here comes Yoon-Yoon the Earnest Pandaschlub to lay the blame for
racial hatred where it really belongs:
> > > Boy and Girl Scouts are closer to Hitler Youth than the Boys & Girls Club.
Paula, horrified, recoils daintily from the mention of the H-word:
> > Neither are anywhere near.
Yoon-Yoon parries, insistent on rooting out the evil racists among us:
> The point is, Boy and Girl Scouts are closer to Hitler Youth than the
> Boys & Girls Club.
I think that round went to Yoon-Yoon. As Trotsky pointed out, Yoonie is
the only RAOer who can spot racist mosquitoes.
After a refreshing break for iced tea, the Earnest Debaters don their
battle caps for another round. Paula starts with a fey double-entendre:
> > > > Please enjoy -- it's right up your alley(s)!
Will Yoon-Yoon bristle in anger, or hand Paula some rope?
> > > How so?
Rope it is. What did Wags have in mind?
> > Well, you're the poster who tried the red-baiting tactic
> > of publicly using the name "Clinton/Castro," right?
Ooh! The old "shame my President, shame me" trick! Yoon-Yoon is feeling
the pressure.
> Look at how Elian was treated by Clinton. Clinton tried very hard to
> get Elian away from his Miami relatives ASAP. Clinton then
> sequestered Elian from virtually everyone except from Cuban officials
> and people closely connected to Communist Cuba or anti-anti Castro
> organizations. Furthermore, Newsmax did a FOIA request and found
> documents that imply that the Clinton Administration was working with
> Communist Cuba in the Elian case.
I'm sorry, Yoonie, but you seem to have switched into Full Paranoiac
Rant instead of sticking to the rules. Earnestness is strong when
pinioned with facts; coupled to fulminative blather like that, it just
makes you look paranoid.
> The evidence strongly implies that Clinton and Castro collaborated
> with each other to get Elian back to Cuba. "Clinton/Castro" looks
> very much like it applies in the Elian case.
Not a bad recovery, but the judges are ruling you disqualified. You
must do penance by taking a correspondence course in "debating trade"
tactics from Krooger U., the Swiss army knife of learning centers.
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
> Gotta hand it to you conservatives -- no matter what
> the decade, you can always find some new bigotry
> to justify, some new way to spread division, some
> new way to induce fear. Guess that's all you really
> have to offer, since that's the one constant in your
> ongoing neurotic campaign to distract people from
> the real issues by dividing them from each other.
Hold me, I'm going to faint.
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
> > Yes, Bosey. Hatred is sinful to liberals. Also to non-morons, which
> > explains why you're struggling so mightily to grasp this concept.
> All right, I guess we're still not connecting here. The Boy Scouts of America
> don't wish to have homosexual troop leaders. Now where does the hatred come in?
I think this is where you switch your brain to "on".
George M. Middius
Gary Eickmeier
>
> Bosey the Victorian Twinkie said:
>
> > > Yes, Bosey. Hatred is sinful to liberals. Also to non-morons, which
> > > explains why you're struggling so mightily to grasp this concept.
>
> > All right, I guess we're still not connecting here. The Boy Scouts of America
> > don't wish to have homosexual troop leaders. Now where does the hatred come in?
>
Answer the question.
Gary Eickmeier
Gary Eickmeier
> The "reasoning" is the last phrase of the Pledge.
>
> But then I guess you're too self-satisfied to even
> look at that, aren't you?
You want to explain that? I let you get away with not answering me once in this
thread, but I'm not letting this go. Explain your meaning.
Gary Eickmeier
Gary Eickmeier
> Conservatives also didnn't want Muslim troop leaders,
> until a nationally-reported incident four years ago,
> and didn't used to want black patrol leaders before
> that, and before that, Jews.
Can you cite evidence for all that? I never heard anything about it when I was a
scout, some 40 years ago.
> Gotta hand it to you conservatives -- no matter what
> the decade, you can always find some new bigotry
> to justify, some new way to spread division, some
> new way to induce fear. Guess that's all you really
> have to offer, since that's the one constant in your
> ongoing neurotic campaign to distract people from
> the real issues by dividing them from each other.
You think it is bigotry to not want homosexuals taking our kids on overnights?
Are you a parent? How about if a single heterosexual male wanted to be a girl
scout leader? Would you let your daughter go on a camping trip with him? If not,
would he be allowed to scream "hatred" and "bigotry" because of your judgement?
Are you getting the concept here Paul?
Gary Eickmeier
George M. Middius
> You think it is bigotry to not want homosexuals taking our kids on overnights?
> Are you a parent? How about if a single heterosexual male wanted to be a girl
> scout leader? Would you let your daughter go on a camping trip with him? If not,
> would he be allowed to scream "hatred" and "bigotry" because of your judgement?
> Are you getting the concept here Paul?
I have nothing to add to this vile rant. I'm just reposting it in
case some RAOers may have killfiled Bosey Birdhouses.
George M. Middius
Bill Watkins
>
> Bill Watkins wrote:
>> Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
>> face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
>> the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
>> in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
>> to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
>
>
>
>Where'd you find the apostrophe, Bill--in the Frank Zappa bin at a
>record store?
---
You noticed. No caps tho'...
Bill Watkins
Steve Zipser
"trotsky" <gsi...@mc.net> wrote in message news:39A31A22...@mc.net...
>
>
> Steve Zipser wrote:
> >
> > In article <39A3055F...@tampabay.rr.com>, geic...@tampabay.rr.com
> > says...
> > > Steve Zipser wrote:
> > >
> > > > I liked being in the Boy Scouts. I enjoyed it immensely and learned
a
> > > > lot.
> > > >
> > > > Now maybe, as you allude, gary, conservatives like Boy Scouts. Does
that
> > > > mean you are comming our of the closet?
> > >
> > > No, it doesn't mean I'm "comming our of the closet." Conservatives
don't believe
> > > that homosexuals should be boy scout troop leaders. Do you?
> > >
> >
> > I do not care. To me it is a meaningless requirement - as long as it is
> > not visible to the troops (just my opinion).
>
>
>
>
> What would be the antecedent to "it" in your sentence above, Zippy?
You aren't too bright. I am referring to Bozomeier's statement, "
Conservatives don't believe that homosexuals should be boy scout troop
leaders. Do you?"
Zip
> >
Bill Watkins
says...
>
>trotsky said:
>
>> > Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
>> > face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
>> > the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
>> > in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
>> > to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
>
>> Where'd you find the apostrophe, Bill--in the Frank Zappa bin at a
>> record store?
>
>
>
>Anyway, Booby, what is the one thing a horse's ass doesn't look back
>to see? That's you!
>
>
>George M. Middius
---
That puts me in front of you, and appropriately so.
Don't get lost in the dust, Middiot.
Bill Watkins
Bill Watkins
says...
---
Looks like you got him! The Middiot occasionally
spews in a mindless fashion, OTOH...
Bill Watkins
Bill Watkins
>
>
>
>"George M. Middius" wrote:
>>
>> trotsky said:
>>
>> > > Hey Gary... If you're waiting for the Middiot to
>> > > face facts, it may be a while. He is puerile in
>> > > the extreme, strowing his childish insults around
>> > > in posts to others, but not having the fortitude
>> > > to deal with me direct. IOW, he is a horse's ass.
>>
>> > record store?
>>
>> He's also indulging freely in Krooglish potion -- witness "strowing".
>
>
>
>
>what? These guys and their archaic words. Pretty soon Kroogey is going
>to type some mangle combination of letters and say "So, that combination
>of letters appears in the Dead Sea Scrolls."
>
>As for Mr. Watkins, I'm a-feared he's had too much of the yellow snow.
---
Look here, Mr. Singh... I'm not following Mr. Middius around...
Bill Watkins
Stewart Pinkerton
>mdryoon wrote:
>>
>> Paul Wagner wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
>> >
>> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
>>
>> Another "sky is falling" type of website. So what? Who cares?
>>
>> > My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
>> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
>> > of the Hitler Youth.
>>
>> Boy and Girl Scouts are closer to Hitler Youth than the Boys & Girls
>> Club.
>
>Neither are anywhere near.
Actually, if you can see past the swastikas, the aims and aspirations
of the two are *extremely* close.
--
Stewart Pinkerton | Music is art, audio is engineering
tony loban
>
>
> Looks like you got him! The Middiot occasionally
> spews in a mindless fashion, OTOH...
>
>
>
>
>
spews, fumes, rants, raves---and then just drops the subject and
disappears from the thread. :-)
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
Stewart Pinkerton
>Gary Eickmeier wrote:
>>
>> Paul Wagner wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
>> >
>> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
>> >
>> > My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
>> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
>> > of the Hitler Youth.
>>
>> Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
>
>I'm a liberal AND an Eagle Scout, so you can drop that one.
Me too, but didn't you become a Liberal *after* you discovered the
neo-militarism of the Scout Movement?
greg pavlov
wrote:
>.... Furthermore, Newsmax did a FOIA request and found
>documents that imply that the Clinton Administration was working with
>Communist Cuba in the Elian case.
>The evidence strongly implies that Clinton and Castro collaborated
>with each other to get Elian back to Cuba.
I would very much hope that our government was
communicating and working with the Cuban gov't
to sort this out, just as I assume Reagan was in
communication with the Lebanese after we lost
a large number of marines there, and GW Bush
lwas talking to the Iraqi gov't even after he sent
troops to Kuwait. Likewise for Grenada, Panama,
etc.
greg pavlov
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Trotsky
So you didn't understand my question, you mean?
Trotsky
What does "strowing" mean, Mr. Watkins?
George M. Middius
> What does "strowing" mean, Mr. Watkins?
Booby, before you and dickie pump each other too much on this
thread, please refrain from posting any clarifications that involve
the Kroo-sausage. TIA.
George M. Middius
Bill Watkins
---
Good question, Mr. Singh. Make that strewing, please.
Bill Watkins
Bill Watkins
says...
>Booby, before you and dickie pump each other too much on this
>thread, please refrain from posting any clarifications that involve
>the Kroo-sausage. TIA.
>
>George M. Middius
---
You seem concerned with the Kroo-sausage,
Mr. Midiot. Would you explain why? TIA
Bill Watkins
Bill Watkins
>
>"George M. Middius" wrote:
>>
---
I too, would be interested in seeing the Middiots
answer. Looks like you've got him cornered again.
Bill Watkins
Paul Wagner
>
> Paul Wagner wrote:
>
> >
> > But then I guess you're too self-satisfied to even
> > look at that, aren't you?
>
> You want to explain that? I let you get away with not answering me once in this
> thread, but I'm not letting this go. Explain your meaning.
"justice for ALL."
As Pat Schroeder asked, "what part of 'all'
don't they understand?" Still a good question.
tony loban
>
>
> You seem concerned with the Kroo-sausage,
> Mr. Midiot. Would you explain why? TIA
>
>
>
>
things *kroo* (kroofeces, kroosausage, krooborg, etc., etc.) it's
merely a byproduct of his insanity.
>
btw, what was your take on the "are-you-bill-winkis?" stuff that
middius was asking you a while back? do you think this winkis person
even exists?
Paul Wagner
>
> Paul Wagner wrote:
>
> > The "reasoning" is the last phrase of the Pledge.
> >
> > But then I guess you're too self-satisfied to even
> > look at that, aren't you?
>
> You want to explain that?
Sure!
I let you get away with not answering me once in this
> thread, but I'm not letting this go.
Excuse me, but you're not my parent or parole officer,
regardless of your tendencies toward right-wing authoritarianism,
and you don't "let" or not "let" me "get away" with anything.
Explain your meaning.
Ask properly, and I will.
Steve Zipser
says...
> Gary Eickmeier wrote:
> >
> > Paul Wagner wrote:
> >
> > > The "reasoning" is the last phrase of the Pledge.
> > >
> > > But then I guess you're too self-satisfied to even
> > > look at that, aren't you?
> >
> > thread, but I'm not letting this go. Explain your meaning.
>
> "justice for ALL."
>
> As Pat Schroeder asked, "what part of 'all'
> don't they understand?" Still a good question.
Eckmeier says justice for all, as long as they are my color, religion,
and sexual persuasion.
Zip
Steve Zipser
> Gary Eickmeier wrote:
> >
> > Paul Wagner wrote:
> >
> > > The "reasoning" is the last phrase of the Pledge.
> > >
> > > But then I guess you're too self-satisfied to even
> > > look at that, aren't you?
> >
> > You want to explain that?
>
>
> I let you get away with not answering me once in this
> > thread, but I'm not letting this go.
>
> regardless of your tendencies toward right-wing authoritarianism,
> and you don't "let" or not "let" me "get away" with anything.
>
> Explain your meaning.
>
> Ask properly, and I will.
>
Way to go Paul! I'd have just told Eckmeier to pound sand or beat his
head against a hammer ( same thing).
Zip
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Paul Wagner
>
> Paul Wagner wrote:
>
> > until a nationally-reported incident four years ago,
> > and didn't used to want black patrol leaders before
> > that, and before that, Jews.
>
> Can you cite evidence for all that? I never heard anything about it when I was a
> scout, some 40 years ago.
Nor should you have -- didn't used to exist before the
'80's, when the Scouts were taken over, bit by bit,
by Reaganite filth. The Muslim incident happened in
Detroit in the early '90's.
>
> > Gotta hand it to you conservatives -- no matter what
> > the decade, you can always find some new bigotry
> > to justify, some new way to spread division, some
> > new way to induce fear. Guess that's all you really
> > have to offer, since that's the one constant in your
> > ongoing neurotic campaign to distract people from
> > the real issues by dividing them from each other.
>
> You think it is bigotry to not want homosexuals taking our kids on overnights?
> Are you a parent? How about if a single heterosexual male wanted to be a girl
> scout leader? Would you let your daughter go on a camping trip with him? If not,
> would he be allowed to scream "hatred" and "bigotry" because of your judgement?
> Are you getting the concept here Paul?
Were the single het male ALREADY a group leader for a troop,
AND had a spotless record of teaching and leading girls
(which IS the precise condition in the Boy Scout case),
I would assume that anyone who suddenly appeared from
somewhere OUTSIDE of that rank of leadership demanding
that he be removed because of the possibility of molestation
would be a pervert who couldn't control his or her own
fantasies, and was projecting their own illness onto the
leader. It's called 'Jimmy Swaggart Syndrome' -- the right-
wing perv begins to get tempted by some kind of dalliance --
in his case, prostitutes -- and suddenly goes on a campaign
against prostitutes. And yes, were someone to show up
and suddenly demand your hypothetical leader's removal
solely because of gender, with no proof or even suspicion
of misbehavior or intent to misbehave, I would indeed scream
"bigotry." EVERY thinking, intelligent, and patriotic American
would. So much for Reaganite filth.
Paul Wagner
>
> Paul Wagner <paulw...@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> >Gary Eickmeier wrote:
> >>
> >> Paul Wagner wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
> >> >
> >> > My own favorite part is the instistence, in the second
> >> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> >> > of the Hitler Youth.
> >>
> >> Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
> >
> >I'm a liberal AND an Eagle Scout, so you can drop that one.
>
> Me too, but didn't you become a Liberal *after* you discovered the
> neo-militarism of the Scout Movement?
I don't think that the Scouts ARE neo-military. Baden-Powell,
observing that inner city boys of his time (many fatherless
due not only to wars but to the British male clubs-system)
could not fend for themselves in case of emergency, set up
a group to teach them basic skills with bright attractive
uniforms and a system of symbolic discipline. There are no
physical punishments, no hazings, no system of shaming,
and until the Marching Morons Of The Drooling Idiot took
over, no guns, symbolic or otherwise, nor military-style
exercises, let alone removals of the "immoral." The entire
conversion to an imitation military is the creation of the
Morons, and there are large groups of Scouts, including
organizations of we Eagle Scouts, who not only oppose it,
but are actively organizing to take back the Scout leaderhip
and restore it to the fine organization it was before the
takeover by the Reagan Filth.
Paul Wagner
>
> On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:02:19 GMT, mdryoon <mdr...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >.... Furthermore, Newsmax did a FOIA request and found
> >documents that imply that the Clinton Administration was working with
> >Communist Cuba in the Elian case.
> >The evidence strongly implies that Clinton and Castro collaborated
> >with each other to get Elian back to Cuba.
>
> I would very much hope that our government was
> communicating and working with the Cuban gov't
> to sort this out, just as I assume Reagan was in
> communication with the Lebanese after we lost
> a large number of marines there, and GW Bush
> lwas talking to the Iraqi gov't even after he sent
> troops to Kuwait. Likewise for Grenada, Panama,
> etc.
That's a little too rational and fact-based for red-
baiters, Greg.
Paul Wagner
> >>
> >> Paul Wagner wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Dear right-wing friends and fellow citizens,
> >> >
> >> > This is from a site called 'americanfreedompress.com.'
> >>
> >>
> >> > paragraph, that the Boys&Girls Clubs are the rebirth
> >> > of the Hitler Youth.
> >>
> >> Club.
> >
> >Neither are anywhere near.
>
> Actually, if you can see past the swastikas, the aims and aspirations
> of the two are *extremely* close.
Right -- to build a nation based on the Maximum Leader
to erect an Empire that will last a thousand years, based
on Total War. Funny how I never heard any of that, in
making my way up to the highest rank a Scout can reach.
Maybe they hid it from we Scouts in New Jersey, and
taught it to everyone else?
Paul Wagner
> > >
> > > Paul Wagner wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > But then I guess you're too self-satisfied to even
> > > > look at that, aren't you?
> > >
> > > You want to explain that?
> >
> > Sure!
> >
> > I let you get away with not answering me once in this
> > > thread, but I'm not letting this go.
> >
> > Excuse me, but you're not my parent or parole officer,
> > regardless of your tendencies toward right-wing authoritarianism,
> > and you don't "let" or not "let" me "get away" with anything.
> >
> > Explain your meaning.
> >
> > Ask properly, and I will.
> >
>
> Way to go Paul! I'd have just told Eckmeier to pound sand or beat his
> head against a hammer ( same thing).
Yep!...
George M. Middius
> btw, what was your take on the "are-you-bill-winkis?" stuff that
> middius was asking you a while back? do you think this winkis person
> even exists?
hey dickie -- I talked to bill on the phone once. also have several
e-mails from him. his grammar ain't perfect but his shift key works.
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
> [The Boy Scouts have] no
> physical punishments, no hazings, no system of shaming,
> and until the Marching Morons Of The Drooling Idiot
And who might they be? Aside from Bosey Birdhouses, I mean.
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
> > You think it is bigotry to not want homosexuals taking our kids on overnights?
> > Are you a parent? How about if a single heterosexual male wanted to be a girl
> > scout leader? Would you let your daughter go on a camping trip with him? If not,
> > would he be allowed to scream "hatred" and "bigotry" because of your judgement?
> > Are you getting the concept here Paul?
> ... And yes, were someone to show up
> and suddenly demand your hypothetical leader's removal
> solely because of gender, with no proof or even suspicion
> of misbehavior or intent to misbehave, I would indeed scream
> "bigotry." EVERY thinking, intelligent, and patriotic American
> would. So much for Reaganite filth.
I wish you hadn't posted this. I was enjoying watching Bosey
demanding his bigotry be explained in detail.
How would you like to live in Bosey's world, where everyone who
comes in contact with children is automatically under suspicion
of being a molestor? The Republicans sure do a lot to advance our
society's moral fiber.
George M. Middius
tony loban
>
>
> > btw, what was your take on the "are-you-bill-winkis?" stuff that
> > middius was asking you a while back? do you think this winkis person
> > even exists?
>
>
>
>
>
> hey dickie -- I talked to bill on the phone once. also have several
> e-mails from him. his grammar ain't perfect but his shift key works.
>
>
>
>
have you visited:
>
http://x55.deja.com/getdoc.xpAN=623028707
&context=966952053.19460267hitnum=34
(you'll have to type in the *entire* address to get to a valid site on
deja)
>
and what, pray tell, led to this correspondance with mr. winkis? did he
call you to tell you he wasn't bill watkins? he doesn't seem to post
here. is he a lurker?
>
and one more thing, 'george'. you never did explain how you knew of mr.
winkis 'situation' *prior* to his post in support of your allegations.
esp? or just good old 'bs'?
Bill Watkins
>> bill watkins:
>> You seem concerned with the Kroo-sausage,
>> Mr. Midiot. Would you explain why? TIA
>>
>>
>as you've probably noticed by now, bill, middius is obsessed with all
>things *kroo* (kroofeces, kroosausage, krooborg, etc., etc.) it's
>merely a byproduct of his insanity.
>>
>btw, what was your take on the "are-you-bill-winkis?" stuff that
>middius was asking you a while back? do you think this winkis person
>even exists?
---
I really didn't follow the thread that closely RE the
Middiot's "Bill Winkis" theory, but at the outset, it
appeared to me the Middiot thought he had something,
then became unsure and ask me if I was "Bill Winkis".
BTW, you and Arny were discussing the business of
who might post using the Middiot name. It occured
to me that possibly _two_ could be doing this. One
handling the cleaner and more informed Middiot, and
another doing the "Kroo/feces" part.
Bill Watkins
tony loban
>
>
> >as you've probably noticed by now, bill, middius is obsessed with all
> >things *kroo* (kroofeces, kroosausage, krooborg, etc., etc.) it's
> >merely a byproduct of his insanity.
> >>
> >btw, what was your take on the "are-you-bill-winkis?" stuff that
> >middius was asking you a while back? do you think this winkis person
> >even exists?
>
>
> I really didn't follow the thread that closely RE the
> Middiot's "Bill Winkis" theory, but at the outset, it
> appeared to me the Middiot thought he had something,
> then became unsure and ask me if I was "Bill Winkis".
>
>
>
entire thread from deja.
>
>
> BTW, you and Arny were discussing the business of
> who might post using the Middiot name. It occured
> to me that possibly _two_ could be doing this. One
> handling the cleaner and more informed Middiot, and
> another doing the "Kroo/feces" part.
>
>
>
theory. in this case, for example, the "are you winkis?" stuff was
posted by <glab...@crosswinds.net>, not <glan...@ipo.net>.
perhaps 'one middius' doesn't always keep up with what the 'other
middius' is posting and this led to the confused situation where
middius claims to 'know' winkis yet asks you if you are winkis. i don't
think this winkis character exists-just another one of middius'
constructs.
MrHONESTY
Gary Eickmeier wrote in message >
>I'm just trying to get him to tell me which group are the sinners - the boy
>scouts or the homosexuals. If he didn't really mean to say "sinners", then
it
>was just a mindless expression. Obviously he's not going to commit himself
and
>dig himself a deeper hole.
>
>Sweet victory!
>
>Gary Eickmeier
Trotsky
MrHONESTY wrote:
>
> Homosexuality is a sin against nature! Pass the offering plate! ;o )
Have you been to Arnii's church, then?
Steve Zipser
says...
> Homosexuality is a sin against nature!
Where does it say that? It may be an aberration, it is not a sin, it is
a choice.
George M. Middius
> and what, pray tell, led to this correspondance with mr. winkis? did he
> call you to tell you he wasn't bill watkins? he doesn't seem to post
> here. is he a lurker?
why, you did, dickie -- your fraud and theft are such fun to
gossip about that people all 'round the nation can't wait to tell
dickie tales.
> and one more thing, 'george'. you never did explain how you knew of mr.
> winkis 'situation' *prior* to his post in support of your allegations.
> esp? or just good old 'bs'?
gee, i'd love to go into this for the sixth time, dickie, but
you're such a basket case, i'll leave you to figure it out for
your exceedingly dim self.
btw, you never did explain what mental defect you have that
prevents you from understanding the nature of Krooger. are you,
perhaps, a Bubble Boy who doesn't come into contact with the
humans at all, but just whiles away his day inside a bubble,
occasionally attempting to strangle people when they beat you at
board games?
George M. Middius
George M. Middius
> > Homosexuality is a sin against nature!
> Where does it say that? It may be an aberration, it is not a sin, it is
> a choice.
Oh, please. Such ignorance is almost as bad as Bosey's bigotry.
George M. Middius
Stewart Pinkerton
As I suspected, you are unable to see past the swastika. Wagner, you
are just so typical of lobotomised US 'liberals'.
Some of us Eagle Scouts saw past the image to the reality, which is
why we bacame Liberals - note the capitalisation. The other side of
the coin is that the Hitler Youth *were* the Scout Movement of
Germany, and had equally high ideals. They were just in the wrong
place at the wrong time.
--
Stewart Pinkerton | Music is art, audio is engineering
Stewart Pinkerton
>Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
>>
>> Paul Wagner <paulw...@earthlink.net> writes:
>>
>> >Gary Eickmeier wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not likely. Liberals don't even like the Boy Scouts of America.
>> >
>> >I'm a liberal AND an Eagle Scout, so you can drop that one.
>>
>> Me too, but didn't you become a Liberal *after* you discovered the
>> neo-militarism of the Scout Movement?
>
>I don't think that the Scouts ARE neo-military. Baden-Powell,
>observing that inner city boys of his time (many fatherless
>due not only to wars but to the British male clubs-system)
>could not fend for themselves in case of emergency, set up
>a group to teach them basic skills with bright attractive
>uniforms and a system of symbolic discipline. There are no
>physical punishments, no hazings, no system of shaming,
>and until the Marching Morons Of The Drooling Idiot took
>over, no guns, symbolic or otherwise, nor military-style
>exercises, let alone removals of the "immoral."
There weren't any of those in the Hitler Youth either. Are you
thinking of something closer to home, perhaps? BTW, if the Scout
Movement isn't neo-military, WTF do you think a scout *is*?
> The entire
>conversion to an imitation military is the creation of the
>Morons, and there are large groups of Scouts, including
>organizations of we Eagle Scouts, who not only oppose it,
>but are actively organizing to take back the Scout leaderhip
>and restore it to the fine organization it was before the
>takeover by the Reagan Filth.
Jeez Wagner, you really are a cretin. The Scout Movement was founded
by a senior British soldier to provide the Empire with disciplined
junior soldiers well versed in woodcraft, whatever your bleeding heart
might like to *pretend* was the case. Sheesh, whatta maroon!
Joe Duffy
Paul Wagner <paulw...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>Gotta hand it to you conservatives -- no matter what
>the decade, you can always find some new bigotry
>to justify, some new way to spread division, some
>new way to induce fear. Guess that's all you really
>have to offer, since that's the one constant in your
>ongoing neurotic campaign to distract people from
>the real issues by dividing them from each other.
For all conservatives I say
thanks, Paul.
Joe
The Devil
<geic...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>You think it is bigotry to not want homosexuals taking our kids on overnights?
>Are you a parent? How about if a single heterosexual male wanted to be a girl
>scout leader? Would you let your daughter go on a camping trip with him? If not,
>would he be allowed to scream "hatred" and "bigotry" because of your judgement?
>Are you getting the concept here Paul?
Yes, I think I see the 'concept'. You are a sick, vile, evil,
disgusting fuck.
--
The Devil
Bill Watkins
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Could the situation be cleared up by the Middiot
giving the "Winkis" phone number for verification
and/or use in resolving the matter?
Bill Watkins
mdryoon
>
> On Wed, 23 Aug 2000 08:02:19 GMT, mdryoon <mdr...@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> >.... Furthermore, Newsmax did a FOIA request and found
> >documents that imply that the Clinton Administration was working with
> >Communist Cuba in the Elian case.
> >The evidence strongly implies that Clinton and Castro collaborated
> >with each other to get Elian back to Cuba.
>
> I would very much hope that our government was
> communicating and working with the Cuban gov't
> to sort this out,
The documents indicated that the Clinton Administration wasn't trying
to sort things out as an impartial third party. Rather, the docs
indicated that the Clinton Administration was trying to work on
behalf of Cuba.
> just as I assume Reagan was in
> communication with the Lebanese after we lost
> a large number of marines there, and GW Bush
> lwas talking to the Iraqi gov't even after he sent
> troops to Kuwait. Likewise for Grenada, Panama,
> etc.
While it's nice for the U.S. to try to sort out some problems with
foreign countries, do you consider it nice for the U.S. to virtually
prostrate itself before Cuba on behalf of Castro?
Richard Yoon
Steve Zipser
in south Florida, but a COURT ruled that he should be returned to his
father. What don;t you understand about rule of law.
Zip
In article <39A460A5...@earthlink.net>, mdr...@earthlink.net
says...
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