NHT 3.3s vs B&W 801s
Chan Geok Hwee
for his speakers. He's asking me to post this for him, to find out whether
is NHT better than the 801s.
Any comments are welcome.
Thanks
Rick
cha...@singnet.com.sg
MicroBeam
group. I have not been a big Bowers fan except for the earliest days of
my entry into this quest for musical truth. The NHT's are more dynamic,
stay cleaner, image better and seem more musical to me. The B & W's
appear to be more open on some material, but they offer a degree of
sameness that the NHT does not, leading me to believe the NHT's are a
better reproducer.
Best regards,
Robert
Minh Tran-Le
that you listen to the Areial 10T they seems to have a better midrange
than the B&W 801 and a bit cheaper. The hard part is to find a dealer
that has all 3 speakers so you could compare.
Minh Tran-Le.
Steven D. Emmet
3...and sold them to buy the aerial 10 t's, which i don't regret at all. steve
Pavlos Pavlopoulos
MicroBeam
This is the only discontinued speaker of the group and are not in the same
league with either.
Minh Tran-Le
>What about Maggies 3.3 ?
I had a pair of Maggies 3.3r for 4 years before my current pair of
Aerial 10T.
And I think that the Maggies have an unbeattable high end with their
ribbon tweeters. But the things that they seems to be missing is a
deep bass extension (at least in my small living room 18'x13') and
the other thing that they had lacked compared to the Aerial was the
focus, musician heard through the Maggies seems to ocuppy a bigger
space.
With Aerial I have to be carefull not to play music too loud to anoy
my neighbor, californian apartments walls let pass too much low
frequency sounds.
In any case for speakers you really need to try them where you are
going to use them. Mostly to check out if you can live with its
placement requirement. And in that price range $4000-5000 it really
depend personal preferences.
Minh Tran-Le
Aaron Dial
Auditioned the NHT 3.3s and was pretty impressed. I'm wondering
how touchy they are to side wall proximity. My right speaker
will have to be within 6 inches of a brick fireplace jutting into
my listening room.
Also, I have not had an opportunity to spend some time with the
oft recommended 10ts--how do they compare?
Thanks. Aaron
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Jim Kroger
the B&Ws are 20=30 year old designs.
Jim
Chan Geok Hwee
I'm an owner of the 801s series 3. Before I bought them, I actually
considered both the 801s and 3.3s. But in the end, I think both of them
boils down to the rest of the system.
I found the 801s highly compatible with my existing system, therefore I
chose them.
I personally feel that the 801s have a killer midrange.
Kantor
The 3.3's were specifically designed to reduce sidewall sensitivity, as
compared to traditional designs. This has been attempted through the
placement and baffling of the 12" woofer, and control of the radiation
patterns.
Oh, and the angled front.
No speaker is immune to the effects of room boundaries, but the 3.3 is
better than most, in our opinion.
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KLK@NHT/AR
MicroBeam
which are superior to anything else in the sub $10,000 range.
Shiv Swarup Pathak
801s by Micr...@aol.com
> which are superior to anything else in the sub $10,000 range.
Me thinks some people take stereophile and TAS a bit too seriously.
They exist to sell magazines and make a profit (well, TAS exists to
exhibit poor management).
The 10T and 3.3 are good speakers. However, there are *many* other
speakers (and other components) out there which are equally as "good"
and even better. The only reason they are not household names is that
TAS and Stereophile chose not to review them. Instead they review
overpriced stuff like the Infinity II.5 and Apogee Grands. Please,
these mags should give us a break! They should attemp to serve the
public half as much as they serve themselves.
Shiv
MicroBeam
>>Me thinks some people take stereophile and TAS a bit too seriously.
They exist to sell magazines and make a profit (well, TAS exists to
exhibit poor management).
The 10T and 3.3 are good speakers. However, there are *many* other
speakers (and other components) out there which are equally as "good"
and even better. The only reason they are not household names is that
TAS and Stereophile chose not to review them..<<
I don't think a review makes a speaker better or worse so I don't
understand how or why you conclude that reading a review affects the sound
of a speaker, unless you are reading the review while listening to the
speaker so that the weight of the publication affects the room's sonic
characteristics. Mpingo dots on the cover of a large format magazine
reduces page reflections, although I have not noted this effect with
smaller format magazines such as TAS. Of course, not having seen a TAS
for quite some time, I don't know if they have changed the rag content,
thereby modifying the gloss and glare of many midrange transducers.
Perhaps Dick Pierce can comment on this.
If you mean that the magazines omit certain components, I am sure there
are some choices that must be made based upon space, but the likelihood of
a really good component being reviewed is quite high. I am sure there are
poorly marketed products that are not "discovered", but then if they are
not adequately marketed, they will not survive and I wouldn't want to own
a great product that is no longer supported.
Best regards,
Robert Leeds
MicroBeam
>>BTW, I have the 3.3s, and I think they're great speakers --- the
longer I own them (5 months now), the more I like them. Imaging, bass,
and rendering of voices can be superb, if the recording is up to it.<<
I, too, have a pair and think they are awesome. The only criteria for
getting outstanding sound out of them with good associated electronics is
that the recording be good. Great recordings can sound like the real
thing and mediocre recordings can sound worse than a car radio. These
speakers are honest.
Robert Leeds
Tony Farinella
>The 10T and 3.3 are good speakers. However, there are *many* other
>speakers (and other components) out there which are equally as "good"
>and even better. The only reason they are not household names is that
>TAS and Stereophile chose not to review them..
For those who care Tom Norton nearly slipped in his drool over the
NHT 3.3's in the December 1993 issue of Stereophile.
Tony Farinella
Andre Yew
> For those who care Tom Norton nearly slipped in his drool over the
>NHT 3.3's in the December 1993 issue of Stereophile.
I believe it was Corey Greenberg who did the equivalent of that
(except he called it "fawn-jizz") in a later issue. TJN was more reserved
about the speakers even pointing out what he thought were flaws, but for
those who care, he did like them, especially the bass.
BTW, I have the 3.3s, and I think they're great speakers --- the
longer I own them (5 months now), the more I like them. Imaging, bass,
and rendering of voices can be superb, if the recording is up to it.
--Andre
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Steven D. Emmet
with a similar sort of sound...so i sold the 801's and bought the
aerials...when i heard the nht 3.3's i was struck by how impressive they
sounded, with strong bass and marked 'clarity' in the upper frequencies...but
they didn't sound musical at all, just 'hype'...i agree...give the aerial 10
t's a listen...steve
Kwok Nai Ying
: Excerpts from netnews.rec.audio.opinion: 29-May-95 Re: NHT 3.3s vs B&W
: 801s by Micr...@aol.com
: > You would not go wrong with either the Aerial 10T or the NHT 3.3, both of
: > which are superior to anything else in the sub $10,000 range.
: Me thinks some people take stereophile and TAS a bit too seriously.
: They exist to sell magazines and make a profit (well, TAS exists to
: exhibit poor management).
Hmm... I think you're giving too much credit to Stereophile and TAS. I
heard the Apogee Duetta Signatures before I had read any reviews about
it, and I fell in love with them straight away. IMHO, second hand, it's
the BEST value for money speakers around at the moment. Assuming you have
big amps and a largish room, that is.
I don't understand why they stopped its production. Certainly it's better
than the Stages with the subwoofer, which comes in at the same price.
NY
RESacks
suggest
a listen to Dunleavy SC-IV's. I base this on my own listening. I know
Stereophile
loved them, but I don't subscribe to Stereophile, and that doesn't stop me
from
recommending a serious listen to a great dynamic speaker. Above all, let
your
ears and your music be your guide, and don't believe anybody!