FS: Bryston 4BST Amplifier
J. Todd Montgomery
1 - Bryston 4BST, 250wpc Power Amplifier
$1,600+ shipping
Trade-In, one owner.
16 months old, nearly 18 years warranty left.
Mint condition, complete box and packaging
Inquiries to:
to...@homeaudio.com
Imtiaz Chhatriwala
based in Washington DC, sells the 4BST for $1760, delivered brand
new with 20 years warranty.
Your price is way too high.
Sell it for around $1300/- and I will buy it.
Jay - Atlanta Digital
<chha...@erols.com> wrote:
Considering that list price is $2265, the $1760 you mention is a 22%
discount. Bryston is a pro product that doesn't have the margins that a
typical music store item would have. That's a very steep and unusual
discount. Bryston also is pretty picky about their dealers selling into
other peoples terrirory.
All this basically means is that the $1760 price is not something most
people will run accross, but if you do, then it's one hell of a great
deal!
This of course really has nothing to do with whether Todd is asking too
much or not. If you want to offer less, go ahead. If it's worth the
$1600 to you, then that's OK too. It's a great amp either way.
- Jay
Atlanta Digital
www.promastering.com
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Amrik Shah
"high-end" companies offer upto 50% margin (and minimum 40% ) on their
products. Check into these figures befores penning a response. Cheers,
Amrik
Johnny Y Boey
> Why do you say that Bryston offers "less" margin, infact so called
> "high-end" companies offer upto 50% margin (and minimum 40% ) on their
> products.
40% minimum is not true. There are a few companies that go less than that.
Wendell Narrod
Amrik,
Where are you getting this information. I have several friends in this
business and I know that the "minimum 40%" is not correct on many, many
lines.
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Wendell Narrod
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Amrik Shah
less than 40% - I was aware of this and these companies are in the minority, so
had to make the statement of "atleast 40% for all companies" to have the desired
impact. Furthermore, most "high-end" speaker companies give on average 50%
margins!! My original statment was aimed at electronic products (excluding
speakers). As a few examples: consider Parasound prices for certain products
available through Audio Advisor (which are 50% OFF), Dunlavy speakers available
for 50% from a retailer in Michigan (demos- and demos have an additional 10%
margin). My above statement is not based upon these two (non-isolated)
incidents, I just mention these examples to further credence. My statement is
not intended to malign retailers- I am well aware of the expenses in running
these retail operations and how difficult it is to cover costs and make some
money at the end of the year. This is made even more difficult by the numerous
online dealers who maintain low(or nil) inventory while undercutting prices and
creating diss-satisfaction with their own customers (by not shipping items on
time) as well as customers who shop locally (by creating the illusion of large
discounts). I merely made the post in response to someone who stated that 22%
discount is unheard of for a Bryston product, wonder where he/she got this
erroneous info.. Cheers to all,
Amrik
Jay - Atlanta Digital
I don't want to get into a big argument here, but when I talked about
Bryston being a pro product and having smaller margins like other pro
products, I was entirely correct. Your 40% minimum is just plain not
true. For music instrument store items, or for hi-fi items, your figures
are correct, but when you get into the high end pro world (like Bryston),
many, many products are at 30%, and a very few are even less. It would be
in poor taste, I believe, for me to list exactly what all the margins are
for the manufacturers, but an example of pro products with lower than
consumer gear margins would include Bryston, Apogee electronics (not the
speakers), Mytek, Sonic Solutions, Dolby, Quested monitors, and I can
easily think of a dozen others off the top of my head. Remember, I'm
talking pro studio pieces here, not home gear, and not project-studio
recording items. It is helpful for people to understand that when a music
store or hi-fi store offers 25% off a product with a 50% margin, and a pro
piece is offered at only 5% off, both products are making the same 25%
profit. The pro people aren't trying to rip you off. It's actually a
more honest pricing system in my opinion. The consumer places inflate the
prices up front so they can get you excited that they are "slashing
prices!" So when somebody discounts Bryston by 22%, they are only making
8% on the deal, which is pretty strange compared to making 20-25% on the
rest of what they are selling.
This is not meant to criticize you, as in certain markets, your comments
are true, but rather to provide information to others that may also not be
aware of the difference in margins for pro gear.
In article <3698FB9D...@mediaone.net>, Amrik Shah
<a-s...@mediaone.net> wrote:
- Jay
Atlanta Digital
www.promastering.com
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