Ken Kantor and NHT
Prodigy
new speaker company. Is this true? If so which company is it? Has he
produced any products yet?
And just a little question. (but very important) I am looking for the
specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
Psyscho...??
Steve Zipser
troumb...@shaw.wave.ca says...
> I heard a while back ago that Ken Kantor left from NHT and decided to make a
> new speaker company. Is this true?
Yes, Ken sold his share of NHT and has left the company, sort of.
> If so which company is it? Has he produced any products yet?
First of all, NHT is still selling his designs - that hasn't changed.
Secondly, Ken's new company is called NHT PRO. He will be marketing
thess speakers primarily to the professional industry - recording
studios, theatre monitors and sound reinforcement, etc.
> And just a little question. (but very important) I am looking for the
> specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
> don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
> Psyscho...??
I think you're gonna have to explain this more thoroughly.
Cheers
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> > specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
> > don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
> > Psyscho...??
psychoacoustics?
Stewart Pinkerton
>psychoacoustics?
Psychosomatics?
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Richard D Pierce
David Lange <dla...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
>> > And just a little question. (but very important) I am looking for the
>> > specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
>> > don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
>> > Psyscho...??
>
>psychoacoustics?
Please...
It is NOT psychoacoustics.
It might be preconceived notions, it might be the power of suggestion, it
might be a lot of things, it is NOT psychoacoustics. Psychoacoustics is
the study of physiological responses to the physical stimulus of sound.
The subjects moods, whims and such are quite apart from psychoacoustics.
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>
> > > And just a little question. (but very important) I am looking for the
> > > specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
> > > don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
> > > Psyscho...??
>
> psychoacoustics?
psychoneurotic? <g>
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And just a little question. (but very important) I am looking for the
specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
Psyscho...??
I think the word you are looking for is "Audiophile".
Garth
Warren Tremain
>> > And just a little question. (but very important) I am looking for the
>> > specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
>> > don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
>> > Psyscho...??
>psychoacoustics?
First re the original question
Isn't ken kantor back with NHT designing professional Studio Monitors
under contract?
Secondly
You must mean affected, effected has entirely different meaning. even
changing that word still makes your question hard to understand.
are you asking for a specific word that implies a preconcieved notion
that even if a system is good (whatever that means) one can think it
sounds bad if they are predisposed to do so? For example I build a
system around Single ended triode amps that, for what ever reason,
sounds just like real music, but upon seeing that I'm a using SET's
and because you know set's are bad because they measure poorly you
decide the system sounds bad regardless of what your ears tell you.
if thats the case the word is Rec.audio.opinon ( note: this is a joke
never the less please direct all hate mail to me personally at
humo...@hatemail.com)
seriously that would be called prejuidice which means:
1 : injury or damage resulting from some judgment or action of
another in disregard of one's rights; especially : detriment to one's
legal rights or claims
2 a (1) : preconceived judgment or opinion (2) : an adverse opinion
or leaning formed without just grounds or before sufficient knowledge
b : an instance of such judgment or opinion c : an irrational
attitude of hostility directed against an individual, a group, a
race, or their supposed characteristics
I dont think or at least I can't find a psycho- word that would
replace prejudice in this case
though what you are trying to do is psychologize which means
intransitive senses : to speculate in psychological terms or on
psychological motivations transitive senses : to explain or interpret
in psychological terms
And many Audiophiles suffer from psychosis
which means:
fundamental mental derangement (as schizophrenia) characterized by
defective or lost contact with reality
Btw psychosomatic means
1 : of, relating to, concerned with, or involving both mind and body
<the psychosomatic nature of man -- Herbert Ratner>
2 : of, relating to, involving, or concerned with bodily symptoms
caused by mental or emotional disturbance <psychosomatic illness>
<psychosomatic medicine>
- psy搾ho新o搶at搏搾al損y /-ti-k(&-)lE/ adverb
which by a stretch could be used to explain what you asking but I
think requires a much more concerted effort on the subconcious of an
individual for such denial to be truly psychomatic. (but I only took
psych 101 so correct me if I'm wrong)
In the end you are talking about a denial of reality that is
subjective at best. For who is to say that what you believe sounds
good really does sound good to anyone else. The ability to approach
anything new or different such as a stereo system with an open mind
is based upon the ability to remove prejudice and bias from your
judgement. easier said than done but the ability to do so or not do
so does not rely on a pre-existing mental instability which would be
implied by use of a psycho- word. and finally i am well aware that
not all words beginging with psycho- relate to mental illness the
prefix psycho-can also imply the study of the mind as it applies to
something as in the case of psycho-acoustics.
Mark J. Young
>
> In article <708a7b$ed5$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>,
> David Lange <dla...@uiuc.edu> wrote:
> >> > specific word that describes that the sound quality can be effected if we
> >> > don't believe that the system is good. (but it is) what is this word?
> >> > Psyscho...??
> >
> >psychoacoustics?
>
>
> It is NOT psychoacoustics.
>
> It might be preconceived notions, it might be the power of suggestion, it
> might be a lot of things, it is NOT psychoacoustics. Psychoacoustics is
> the study of physiological responses to the physical stimulus of sound.
> The subjects moods, whims and such are quite apart from
psychoacoustics.
This is wrong too. The "psycho" prefix in
"psychoacoustics" refers to the psychological component
of experiencing acoustic phenomena. The more general term, "psychophysics", describes the study of psychological responses
(i.e., perceptions) to external stimulation with respect to
physical dimensions of the stimuli. Subjects' moods and whims
(not to mention experience, knowledge, aesthetic tastes and
other cognitive factors) are definitely a part of the
perceptual system. I don't know what term the original poster
was looking for but I certainly believe that *perceptions* of
audio quality are *biased* by *attitudes* since this is true
of perceptions in general.
Mark
Curtis Leeds
> Psychoacoustics is
> the study of physiological responses to the physical stimulus of sound.
> The subjects moods, whims and such are quite apart from psychoacoustics.
This definition certainly conflicts with what I've always
understood the word "psychoacoustics" to mean. The prefix
"psycho" is clearly routed in the Greek "Psyche" (also,
"psukhe"), so the implication of soul would seem to include
such things as mood and whim rather than purely physical
response.
English being the strange and inconsistent language that it
is, it is possible that Pierce's definition is literally
correct. However, confusion is sure to result since the root
prefix doesn't suit the meaning.
If psychoacoustics isn't concerned with the non-physical
aspect of sound, what discipline is?
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Trouble
"psychodynamics"?
Psychodynamics. "The study of human behavior from the point of
motivation and drives, depending largely on the functional
significance of emotion, and based on the assumption that an
individual's total personality and reaction at any given time are the
product of the interaction between his genetic constitution and his
environment"
Hmm. Still not exactly the term we want I guess....but closer maybe.