The Thorens seems lighter and less precision than the very heavy Micro
Seiki, and I like the overall look of the MS tonearm.
Opinions?
MJ
The Thorens is a classic belt drive table, with an effective floating
subchassis suspension (very good for preventing acoustic feeback, bad
if you do a lot of jumping around on suspended floors). You are
correct that the arm is it's weak spot, but the table is very
tweakable if you are so inclined.
I am not familiar with the specific Micro Seiki, but from the product
nomenclature, its probably direct drive. Most audiophiles find belt
drive more "analog" sounding, but not all.
If you could hear the same cartridge iin both, you'd have the best
basis to decide. Failing that, at least use the same recording.
--
Bruce Kinch
Editor
Primyl Vinyl
The Audiophile Record Collectors Newsletter
I like the 126 better than the neighbors Micro Seiki or the 165 and
while I prefer belt drive, I would go with the Micro Seiki over the
165 - if condition is equal. I do plan to stay with my Thorens and
Grace Arm for many more years, if I can get the arm wiring renewed.
Anyone know if a grace cable with the male din connector is available?
On 12 Aug 1999 09:02:53 GMT, Mangrove Jack <phat...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
>Anyone with ideas?? I have a chance to grab either a Micro Seiki DD-40
>or a Thorens TD-165.
>
>The Thorens seems lighter and less precision than the very heavy Micro
>Seiki, and I like the overall look of the MS tonearm.
>
>Opinions?
>
>MJ
>Anyone with ideas?? I have a chance to grab either a Micro Seiki DD-40
>or a Thorens TD-165.
--> The Thorens TD-165 was their entry level model. With Thorens
you get a suspended belf drive which has an exceptional alloy
turntable designed to lessen interaction with the photo cartridge.
Thorens, except the 124 - 125 - 126, can be very easy to jolt if
you move around in anything less than a very solid home. It will
last forever. The TD-165's tonearm looks spartan but is decidedly
a well designed piece of machinery. I own a Thorens TD-145, which
is a mid-range model with opto-electric arm lift. I like it quite
a lot but preferred my Denon DP-1700 with anti-resonant mat which
was stolen. I prefer CDs.
--> Micro Seiki turntables are also very well built with more
amenable industrial design. It likely would be less susceptible to
skip when you move around. Direct drive turntables have a VERY
different "signature" of low frequency components relative to belt
driven models and some audiophiles object. YET, the customers who
bought Micro Seiki through us never complained while VERY MANY
Thorens customers were frustrated with how easy it was to make the
tone-arm skip -- dancing being out of the question. In this case,
I'd tend to advise you to consider the Micro Seiki. If you can get
(or see) a Micro MR-622, then you'll get to know what a good
looking direct drive turntable can get to be, especially the
original tone-arm. Consider adding an anti-resonant mat and you'll
have many hours of good listening.
Best regards,
Andre Jean Quintal