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'Touched by an Angel' star John Dye has passed away

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Sarah B

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Jan 13, 2011, 8:12:22 PM1/13/11
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http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/john-dye-touched-by-an-angel-star-dies-at-47--2105

Wow, this is a shock. The guy was only 47. RIP. Andew was the only
reason I watched that show!

Robin Miller

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Jan 13, 2011, 10:09:03 PM1/13/11
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Whenever an actor under 50 dies for no apparent reason like this, I find
myself thinking that drugs must have played a role. That's probably unfair.

--Robin


Remysun

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Jan 13, 2011, 10:34:32 PM1/13/11
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On Jan 13, 8:12 pm, Sarah B <sarah.ly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://tv.yahoo.com/blog/john-dye-touched-by-an-angel-star-dies-at-47...

>
> Wow, this is a shock. The guy was only 47. RIP. Andew was the only
> reason I watched that show!

Andrew took himself?!

Clifford Blau

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Jan 13, 2011, 11:02:08 PM1/13/11
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Why don't you just say he dye-d?

"Curse you, Don Tickles, Notary Public!"

Sarah B

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Jan 14, 2011, 9:10:57 AM1/14/11
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On Jan 13, 10:09 pm, Robin Miller <Not_My@Real_Address.com> wrote:

> Whenever an actor under 50 dies for no apparent reason like this, I find
> myself thinking that drugs must have played a role. That's probably unfair.

Maybe, but I'm thinking "heart attack" looks a little suspicious
myself. The fact that a. he died on Monday and we only heard about it
yesterday and b.newer articles are saying the cause of death has 'yet
to be determined' is making me think that the manner of his death was
something the TBAA community wanted to spin, maybe because it was
something that could hurt sales of the DVDs and the TBAA franchise as
a whole (they're still selling the books and DVDs, and Hallmark has
been running the show). Maybe a drug overdose, kinky sex act gone
wrong (a la David Carradine) or, most sadly, a suicide. Actors don't
hide having AIDS like they used to, so I'm thinking that's not very
likely.

Of course, it IS possible that he DID have a heart attack, but in an
otherwise reasonably healthy guy, heart attacks at 47 are very rare.
His father, who has since been interviewed, didn't mention any kind of
heart condition, and you think he would have if John had one.

No matter how it happened, it's sad. 47 is WAY too young. RIP John.

Meghan Benson

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Dec 21, 2022, 4:29:45 AM12/21/22
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On Friday, January 14, 2011 at 8:10:57 AM UTC-6, Sarah B wrote:
> On Jan 13, 10:09 pm, Robin Miller <Not_My@Real_Address.com> wrote:
> > Whenever an actor under 50 dies for no apparent reason like this, I find
> > myself thinking that drugs must have played a role. That's probably unfair.
> Maybe, but I'm thinking "heart attack" looks a little suspicious
> myself.

Turns out, it was indeed drugs. Over at Wikipedia Commons, they have his actual death certificate (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:John_Dye_Death_Certificate.pdf). And it shows that John Dye died of a methamphetamine overdose. His family apparently claimed variably that he died of congestive heart failure or a heart attack, and I'm guessing they did so to cover up the true nature of his death. Like you said, the delay in reporting his death is suspicious in itself, and I'm betting they needed a moment to come up with a cover story.

Ian J. Ball

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Dec 21, 2022, 11:40:20 AM12/21/22
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Yeah, I have a couple of irons in the fire over at Wikipedia about
this. Medical examiner didn't give an initial cause of death. Family
said "probably heart failure". Later media just picked up what the
family said without fact-checking it.

Actual death cert. was released five month later in May 2011. It looks
like no media reported on the real cause of death (an OD) after the
release of the death cert. (Dye was probably too small-time for the
media to go back an report on the real COD.)

Wikipedia was reporting the B.S. cause of death, without even sourcing
anything.

What I need to find out is whether the actual death cert. can be cited
on Wikipedia - I suspect it can, but I'm not sure.


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Adam H. Kerman

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Dec 21, 2022, 12:44:03 PM12/21/22
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Ian J. Ball <IJB...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>On 2022-12-21 09:29:43 +0000, Meghan Benson said:
>>On Friday, January 14, 2011 at 8:10:57 AM UTC-6, Sarah B wrote:
>>>On Jan 13, 10:09 pm, Robin Miller <Not_My@Real_Address.com> wrote:

>>>>Whenever an actor under 50 dies for no apparent reason like this, I find
>>>>myself thinking that drugs must have played a role. That's probably unfair.

>>>Maybe, but I'm thinking "heart attack" looks a little suspicious
>>>myself.

>>Turns out, it was indeed drugs. Over at Wikipedia Commons, they have
>>his actual death certificate
>>https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:John_Dye_Death_Certificate.pdf

>> And it shows that John Dye died of a methamphetamine overdose. His
>>family apparently claimed variably that he died of congestive heart
>>failure or a heart attack, and I'm guessing they did so to cover up the
>>true nature of his death. Like you said, the delay in reporting his
>>death is suspicious in itself, and I'm betting they needed a moment to
>>come up with a cover story.

>Yeah, I have a couple of irons in the fire over at Wikipedia about
>this. Medical examiner didn't give an initial cause of death. Family
>said "probably heart failure". Later media just picked up what the
>family said without fact-checking it.

>Actual death cert. was released five month later in May 2011.

How the hell did it take five months? Even on tv in the '70s, they got
tox screens back in three weeks.

>It looks
>like no media reported on the real cause of death (an OD) after the
>release of the death cert. (Dye was probably too small-time for the
>media to go back an report on the real COD.)

>Wikipedia was reporting the B.S. cause of death, without even sourcing
>anything.

>What I need to find out is whether the actual death cert. can be cited
>on Wikipedia - I suspect it can, but I'm not sure.

Wikipedia isn't a news organzation. It's not an archive. It's not an
encyclopaedia. It's not fact checked. It's helpful only in that it
provides what citations it does for further reading.
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