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Hank Gillette

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Sep 14, 2000, 8:24:58 PM9/14/00
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I know this is old, but TV Land just showed the episode where Peter
White was shot: how many of the rapes were committed by Peter? He denied
the new rapes, but he denied raping Cathy Martin also and they showed
him doing that (she pulled his ski mask off).

Furthermore, why did Shirley call a code blue after shooting Peter? If
she had not called and wiped her fingerprints off the gun and just left
it with Peter, she never would have been caught.

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Sep 14, 2000, 9:01:40 PM9/14/00
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In article <hankgillette-085A...@news.bellatlantic.net>, Hank
Gillette <hankgi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>I know this is old, but TV Land just
>showed the episode where Peter
>White was shot: how many of the
>rapes were committed by Peter? He
>denied the new rapes, but he denied
>raping Cathy Martin also and they
>showed him doing that (she pulled
>his ski mask off).

I'm pretty sure they never revealed if Peter had committed all the rapes.
Unless he said something Howie Mandel when Howie's character went to Heaven
and Hell after being shot a few seasons later? I remember that Knox appeared
along with several other dead St. Elsewhere characters in that episode.

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>
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>

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Lynn Riley

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Sep 14, 2000, 10:20:24 PM9/14/00
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Hank Gillette wrote:

> I know this is old, but TV Land just showed the episode where Peter
> White was shot: how many of the rapes were committed by Peter? He denied
> the new rapes, but he denied raping Cathy Martin also and they showed
> him doing that (she pulled his ski mask off).

They never gave us a definative answer about that...we were left to
assume whatever we wanted -- mainly, that he was a liar about Cathy
so he could have lied about them all.

> Furthermore, why did Shirley call a code blue after shooting Peter? If
> she had not called and wiped her fingerprints off the gun and just left
> it with Peter, she never would have been caught.

Sorry I don't remember what her emotional state was at that time.

TVFan87656

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Sep 15, 2000, 1:40:01 AM9/15/00
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Hank Gillette hankgi...@bigfoot.com wrote:

>
>I know this is old, but TV Land just showed the episode where Peter
>White was shot: how many of the rapes were committed by Peter? He denied
>the new rapes, but he denied raping Cathy Martin also and they showed
>him doing that (she pulled his ski mask off).
>

We know he didn't try to rape Annie Cavanero. I always assumed Peter stopped
raping women after his trial, which was the irony, he wasn't punished for the
rapes he committed, but paid for the rapes he didn't do (and when his home life
had finally begun to improve).

>
>Furthermore, why did Shirley call a code blue after shooting Peter? If
>she had not called and wiped her fingerprints off the gun and just left
>it with Peter, she never would have been caught.

Shirley was all over the map. She kept the gun with her at St. Eligius for at
least a few weeks after she shot him. IIRC, she rejected an insanity defense at
trial because she wanted it to be known that she chose to kill Peter in a
rational mindset. I think a part of her took great pride in killing him, and
even when she tried to hide her crime, she ultimately sowed the seeds of her
own capture.

That was an incredible story arc. Unfortunately, it took out so many important
characters and/or women (Cathy, Wendy, Shirley, Peter), and the show suffered
for it in early season 4 when they began to run out of fresh ideas.

Jeanne & Pete McKenna

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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I didn't realize St. Elsewhere was on TV Land. Any idea what time it
broadcasts on the east coast -- my tv books don't carry the schedule for
that station. Thanks. Jeanne
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Alan Sepinwall

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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Hank Gillette <hankgi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>I know this is old, but TV Land just showed the episode where Peter
>White was shot: how many of the rapes were committed by Peter? He denied
>the new rapes, but he denied raping Cathy Martin also and they showed
>him doing that (she pulled his ski mask off).

(See below the spoiler space for the answer to this one, in case you
haven't seen the following episode(s) yet.)

>Furthermore, why did Shirley call a code blue after shooting Peter? If
>she had not called and wiped her fingerprints off the gun and just left
>it with Peter, she never would have been caught.

In-show answer: As others have speculated, Shirley wanted to get
caught. Either that, or she was in such shock from doing it that she
instantly reverted to her most basic nursing instincts and called the
code.

Out-of-show answer: It made for one hell of a closing line, didn't it?
"Code blue in the morgue." Always gives me the chills.

Spoiler space for question one...

We never got an answer on exactly who Peter did and did not rape, but
in one of the follow-up episodes, an undercover cop posing as a nurse
caught a man who'd been committing copycat rapes for at least a few
months. The police actually wound up crediting all the rapes to him, I
believe.

-Alan

testy

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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Jeanne & Pete McKenna wrote:

> I didn't realize St. Elsewhere was on TV Land. Any idea what time it
> broadcasts on the east coast -- my tv books don't carry the schedule for
> that station. Thanks. Jeanne

There are many on-line sources you can check for TV scedules:
http://www.tvguide.com/
http://www.tvgrid.com/
http://www.tv-now.com/

to name a few.

But to answer your question, TVLand airs "St. Elsewhere" at the ungodly hour of
4:00 a.m. on the east coast. And "Emergency" gets the prime slot of 8 p.m.
Someone's got a weird sense of priorities.

Testy


Hank Gillette

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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In article <39C23485...@nomail.com>, testy <te...@nomail.com>
wrote:

> But to answer your question, TVLand airs "St. Elsewhere" at the ungodly
> hour of
> 4:00 a.m. on the east coast. And "Emergency" gets the prime slot of 8
> p.m.
> Someone's got a weird sense of priorities.

It is an ungodly hour. But for anyone with a VCR (which seems to be
nearly everyone these days), it's really irrelevant.

I still remember getting up at 3:00 am 20 years ago to see an old movie
I really wanted to see. Glad I don't have to do that anymore.

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Hank Gillette

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Sep 15, 2000, 3:00:00 AM9/15/00
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In article <39c21840...@news.mindspring.com>,
sepi...@mindspring.com wrote:

> We never got an answer on exactly who Peter did and did not rape, but
> in one of the follow-up episodes, an undercover cop posing as a nurse
> caught a man who'd been committing copycat rapes for at least a few
> months. The police actually wound up crediting all the rapes to him, I
> believe.

That seems strange. Perhaps they could totally discount Cathy Martin's
testimony (because everyone thought she was a wacko), but Fiscus and
another doctor (Chandler?) caught Peter in the act of assaulting
Armstrong.

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Hank Gillette

The Munificent but tortured, Mr. Hole

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Hank Gillette <hankgi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:

>In article
><39C23485...@nomail.com>,
>testy <te...@nomail.com> wrote:

>But to answer your question, TVLand airs
>"St. Elsewhere" at the ungodly hour of
>4:00 a.m. on the east coast. And
>"Emergency" gets the prime slot of 8 p.m.
>Someone's got a weird sense of priorities.

>It is an ungodly hour. But for anyone with
>a VCR (which seems to be nearly
>everyone these days), it's really irrelevant.

But how many minutes of the original episodes has been exercised for
more commercial time?

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> But how many minutes of the original episodes has been exercised for
> more commercial time?

It depends on how many minutes are lethargic, overweight,
or sedentary.


Lynn Riley

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Jeanne & Pete McKenna wrote:

> I didn't realize St. Elsewhere was on TV Land. Any idea what time it
> broadcasts on the east coast -- my tv books don't carry the schedule for
> that station. Thanks. Jeanne

4am for EDT.

>
> "Lynn Riley" <pisc...@austin.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:39C18783...@austin.rr.com...
> >
> >

Brian B. Rodenborn

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Naw, Hole just can't speel worth a damn. He meant how many were
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TVFan87656

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Sep 16, 2000, 12:39:01 AM9/16/00
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Hank Gillette hankgi...@bigfoot.com wrote:

>That seems strange. Perhaps they could totally discount Cathy Martin's
>testimony (because everyone thought she was a wacko), but Fiscus and
>another doctor (Chandler?) caught Peter in the act of assaulting
>Armstrong.

He only got as far as roughing her up. They could have argued Peter was under
stress, and never intended to rape her. It didn't help that the medical
evidence was never used in the trial, Peter passed a polygraph, and the jury
probably saw Wendy as a cold fish.


TVFan87656

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holef...@webtv.net (The Munificent but tortured, Mr. Hole) wrote:

>
>But how many minutes of the original episodes has been exercised for
>more commercial time?

Does anyone have any idea how much has been cut? I don't notice the usual cheap
and obvious cuts, but I didn't see St. E during the NBC run, so I don't know
what I've missed.

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The few times I watched it on TV Land, it was time compressed. That's not to
say it's been edited on top of that.

As for "Emergency", I don't watch that at all, so I can't tell you.

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"Scally has feelings too!" benicean...@fungames.com wrote:

>
>The few times I watched it on TV Land, it was time compressed. That's not to

That might explain why the opening credits seem faster in some seasons.

Of course, the question is moot now, since TV Land has taken St. E off for
"A-Team" reruns.

Tom Cervo

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Sep 17, 2000, 10:48:31 PM9/17/00
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>But to answer your question, TVLand airs "St. Elsewhere" at the ungodly hour
>of
>4:00 a.m. on the east coast. And "Emergency" gets the prime slot of 8 p.m.
>Someone's got a weird sense of priorities.

Not really. People who watch "St. Elsewhere" will find it anywhere and tape it.
Whereas "Emergency" needs all the help it can get.

Attmay

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Sep 22, 2000, 1:56:47 AM9/22/00
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The Munificent but tortured, Mr. Hole wrote:
>
> Hank Gillette <hankgi...@bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> >In article
> ><39C23485...@nomail.com>,
> >testy <te...@nomail.com> wrote:
>
> >But to answer your question, TVLand airs
> >"St. Elsewhere" at the ungodly hour of
> >4:00 a.m. on the east coast. And
> >"Emergency" gets the prime slot of 8 p.m.
> >Someone's got a weird sense of priorities.
>
> >It is an ungodly hour. But for anyone with
> >a VCR (which seems to be nearly
> >everyone these days), it's really irrelevant.
>
> But how many minutes of the original episodes has been exercised for
> more commercial time?

Probably four minutes. The show is moving to Bravo in October anyway, so
maybe they'll not cut it.
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Attmay

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Sep 22, 2000, 1:57:49 AM9/22/00
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I pity the fool who thought of that. Sorry, Mr. T, but St. Elsewhere is
much better.

TVFan87656

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Attmay 3s...@bellsouth.net wrote:

>
>Probably four minutes. The show is moving to Bravo in October anyway, so
>maybe they'll not cut it.

St. E's moving to Bravo in October? Where did you hear this? This is Bravo
America, not Bravo Canada, right? Bravo has commercial interruptions now, but
if they run uncut, it will be easier to tell if TV Land made any edits.

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