Wonder Woman teaser poster
Captain Infinity
http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to cast
the face.
**
Captain Infinity
ANIM8Rfsk
Infi...@world.std.com wrote on 3/17/05 5:48 PM:
Adam Hughes art. He just freaking rocks.
And
'cast breasts'
mmmmmm
jberger
news:BE5F77D4.28258%ANIM...@cox.net...
> in article b69k311jbtrkj69lo...@4ax.com, Captain Infinity at
> Infi...@world.std.com wrote on 3/17/05 5:48 PM:
>
>>
>> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>>
>> Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to cast
>> the face.
>>
>
> Adam Hughes art. He just freaking rocks.
>
> And
> 'cast breasts'
> mmmmmm
Nawww, they're CGI Hollywood b.s.
Paris Hilton's Best 'Gal' Pal, Ian J. Ball
Captain Infinity <Infi...@world.std.com> wrote:
> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>
> Looks like they've already cast the breasts.
Who will play the 'stunt' breasts, tho?!
> Now they just have to cast the face.
I vote for Pete Townsend.
--
"I feel horrible that, once again, someone has invaded my privacy...
I don't know why this stuff always happens to me..."
- Paris Hilton, 02/23/05 (Gee, Paris, I wonder why... Hmmm...)
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forge
> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>
> Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to cast
> the face.
Ironically as all hell, this kind of thing really pisses me off. Do they
think I'm going to rush out to see this film because there were tits on
the poster? I'm sorry, it's going to take more than that. Although of
course seeing "Joss Whedon" in the teeny credits at the bottom of the
poster might do it.
RichA
Better question; Is this real or just a "stunt picture?"
Unlikely they'd be able to keep who got the role under wraps
for more than 2 seconds.
-Rich
forge
RichA <no...@none.com> wrote:
> >> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
> >>
> >> Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to cast
> >> the face.
> >
> >Ironically as all hell, this kind of thing really pisses me off. Do they
> >think I'm going to rush out to see this film because there were tits on
> >the poster? I'm sorry, it's going to take more than that. Although of
> >course seeing "Joss Whedon" in the teeny credits at the bottom of the
> >poster might do it.
>
> Better question; Is this real or just a "stunt picture?"
> Unlikely they'd be able to keep who got the role under wraps
> for more than 2 seconds.
No, those are stunt boobs; I don't think they've even started to cast it
yet. There's a rumor that Joss wants Charisma but I don't think she has
the acting chops for it.
RichA
J. Ball" <ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote:
>In article <b69k311jbtrkj69lo...@4ax.com>,
> Captain Infinity <Infi...@world.std.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>>
>> Looks like they've already cast the breasts.
>
>Who will play the 'stunt' breasts, tho?!
>
>> Now they just have to cast the face.
From TVGuide:
So much for Joss Whedon keeping Wonder Woman in the family. According
to an item in Tuesday's New York Post, the Buffy auteur is looking to
lasso either 7th Heaven's Jessica Biel or Oscar winner Kim Basinger to
slip into Lynda Carter's satin tights in his big screen WW flick. "Kim
would be used if Wonder Woman is older," an insider tells the Post,
"[and] Jessica if she's younger." What do you say we split the
difference and go with Lauren Graham. Please?
Andrew Ryan Chang
>Better question; Is this real or just a "stunt picture?"
>Unlikely they'd be able to keep who got the role under wraps
>for more than 2 seconds.
Adam Hughes is a very talented comic/cheesecake artist; his
signature "AH!" is clearly visible in the corner. This isn't supposed to
be any real actress; it's just a promo drawing.
--
"In short, for the several hundred thousand dollars we tax payers spent on
getting [Bush] trained as a fighter jock, he repaid us with sixty-eight
days of active duty. [...]" concludes a military source.
[http://www.tompaine.com/opinion/2000/09/27/index.html]
David Johnston
<fo...@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote:
>No, those are stunt boobs; I don't think they've even started to cast it
>yet. There's a rumor that Joss wants Charisma but I don't think she has
>the acting chops for it.
There's no rumour as such. Just people on the internet who keep
suggesting it for some inexplicable reason.
Ken from Chicago
Put the cast of the breasts down, and step away, Anim.
-- Ken from Chicago
BTR1701
rgo...@telusplanet.net (David Johnston) wrote:
It's hardly inexplicable. Carpenter would be great for the role. Hence
people suggesting her.
ANIM8Rfsk
no...@none.com wrote on 3/17/05 10:44 PM:
> Better question; Is this real or just a "stunt picture?"
It's not a picture at all. It's artwork by ADAM HUGHES. It's signed in the
bottom right corner -- AH!
Jeremy Billones
ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>in article f2rk311ms3ip8kstu...@4ax.com, RichA at
>no...@none.com wrote on 3/17/05 10:51 PM:
>
>> So much for Joss Whedon keeping Wonder Woman in the family. According
>> to an item in Tuesday's New York Post, the Buffy auteur is looking to
>> lasso either 7th Heaven's Jessica Biel or Oscar winner Kim Basinger
>
Though Basinger as Hypolita would be fine with me.
--
Jeremy Billones
"Excel balances out our desire to throttle that annoying talking paper
clip by being chock-full of useful features."
- Aaron Schatz, footballoutsiders.com
ANIM8Rfsk
> So much for Joss Whedon keeping Wonder Woman in the family. According
> to an item in Tuesday's New York Post, the Buffy auteur is looking to
> lasso either 7th Heaven's Jessica Biel or Oscar winner Kim Basinger
Oh, come on -- that HAS to be a joke.
Terry McNeal
>people suggesting her.
Carpenter would be great in the role, but there's no way she's going to
work with Whedon again. Which is fine, 'cause there's no way he would
cast her anyway.
Terry
jenn...@rdjfan.com
Basinger. TV Guide attributed the information incorrectly here and
corrected it later.
Captain Infinity
To Talk Of Many Things...
>Carpenter would be great in the role, but there's no way she's going to
>work with Whedon again. Which is fine, 'cause there's no way he would
>cast her anyway.
Why, what's their beef?
**
Captain Infinity
BTR1701
"Terry McNeal" <gree...@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't why you'd say that. She worked with Whedon again when she came
back for her final ANGEL episode.
Hope Munro Smith
Captain Infinity <Infi...@world.std.com> wrote:
There doesn't seem to be one.
Ken from Chicago
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CC was miffed to find out Traci Lords was originally cast as "Cordy".
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"BTR1701" <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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Only because Traci Lords turned down the appearance.
-- Ken from Chicago
forge
RichA <no...@none.com> wrote:
> What do you say we split the
> difference and go with Lauren Graham. Please?
Yeah, please??? I'd be at the theatre opening night. And every night
thereafter. At least until my girlfriend kills me.
forge
BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > There's no rumour as such. Just people on the internet who keep
> > suggesting it for some inexplicable reason.
>
> It's hardly inexplicable. Carpenter would be great for the role. Hence
> people suggesting her.
I don't think she can act the part.
BTR1701
forge <fo...@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote:
I do. She and Denisof were easily the best actors in the ANGEL cast.
RichA
wrote:
>I think she could carry off the part. I think I would probably rank
>the actors as 1) Denisof, 2) Acker, 3) Charisma. I've seen Charisma do
>decent jobs at drama, and she's absolutely great at inserting light
>moments in the midst of dark scenes. She's great at comedy and you
>know that Joss will be putting in comedic moments in the movie.
Her sarcastic humour in "Angel" was perfect in each scene.
-Rich
trotsky
I never understood how she went from being a total bimbo on "Buffy" to
being the one with the most clever remarks on "Angel".
BTR1701
wrote:
> >>BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
She was never a bimbo on "Buffy". She was always portrayed as being very
intelligent, just cruel, tactless and catty also. In fact, during the
3rd season, Cordelia aced her SATs and was accepted to a dozen
prestigious universities. That's not something a stupid bimbo could
accomplish.
arnold kim
"forge" <fo...@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
news:forge-4C5DE6....@comcast.dca.giganews.com...
> In article <b69k311jbtrkj69lo...@4ax.com>,
> Captain Infinity <Infi...@world.std.com> wrote:
>
>> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>>
>> Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to cast
>> the face.
>
> think I'm going to rush out to see this film because there were tits on
> the poster? I'm sorry, it's going to take more than that. Although of
> course seeing "Joss Whedon" in the teeny credits at the bottom of the
> poster might do it.
I think that the point of the poster, like with all teaser posters, is to
create a sense of mystery about the character and the movie. You know,
tantalize the audience by giving just a little hint of Wonder Woman.
Arnold Kim
Captain Infinity
To Talk Of Many Things...
>I think that the point of the poster, like with all teaser posters, is to
>create a sense of mystery about the character and the movie. You know,
>tantalize the audience by giving just a little hint of Wonder Woman.
Black hair, boobs, and bracelets? Interesting hint.
**
Captain Infinity
Ken from Chicago
"trotsky" <gms...@email.com> wrote in message
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ACTING!
Oh and she wasn't a bimbo on BTVS. She was the stuck up, narcissistic, rich,
snobby, lead cheerleader (who reformed when daddy went broke from an IRS
audit). But she wasn't a bimbo.
-- Ken from Chicago
ANIM8Rfsk
BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 7:54 AM:
> She was never a bimbo on "Buffy". She was always portrayed as being very
> intelligent, just cruel, tactless and catty also.
Um - she was a total moron on the first season of Buffy. Remember Willow
telling her the 'delete' key meant 'deliver' and she fell for it?
She was pretty much the definition of a bimbo at the start.
She didn't get smart until season 3.
Ken from Chicago
"arnold kim" <arno...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Teaser trailers. Gotta love em:
FADE FROM BLACK TO
Exterior shot of the Smithsonian where we here in voice over. "And this is
one example of the F-22 stealth fighter used on various mission in Europe
and the Middle East. It's flight profile, high tech surface material can
absorb radar and evade most detection systems it's been nicknamed 'The
Invisible Jet'."
CUT TO interior of a huge room with the stealth fighter with a bunch of
soldiers, many of them Air Force and a curator in a business suit and a
woman with long dark flowing ravenous hair in a sleeveless white tunic,
bracelets and white cloak who comments: "Please, tell me more."
Fade to gold text on black: WONDER.
FADE *FROM* BLACK TO:
Bird's eye pan across an ocean to an island coast to a colosseum where there
are two Greek armies clashing in gleeming golden ancient Greek armor (the
metal "skirt", helmets with "mohawks") and white tunics.
Zoom in as the armies stop fighting as a slave slowly walks out onto the
field. He's in little more than a dingy, gray potato sack and sandals, with
long bedraggled hair and his arms bound and chained in front of him where
he is being pulled by a Greek soldier into the center and then uses a hammer
and stake to nail the chain into the ground.
A trumpet sounds and a squad from each of the opposing armies converge on
the slave.
The slave runs right at the soldier who brought him out and he barely has
time to pull out his sword to ward off the slave who dodges, kicks, leaps,
somersaults, lands just as the soldier times it to bring his sword in an
overhand arc right on the slave's head--only the slave holds out his arms as
the sword cuts him loose. The slave does a roundhouse kicks and kicks the
soldier solidly in the head! The slave grabs the sword from the dazed
soldier just as the two converging squadron reach him.
Cut to: Clash of swords / dodging / slash to the head / leaping over
soldiers / somersaulting backwards over soldiers / clanging of sword on
helmets / nicks on the arms, legs and torso / the slave stands alone and
wipes the hair from his face revealiing ... he's a woman!
Cut to: The remaining armies fire arrows at the slave who drops her sword
... and proceeds to spin about and DEFLECT the incoming arrows with the
bracelets on her forearms, spinning about to catch the final four in her
hands. She has a wistful smile.
Fade to gold text on black: WONDER
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.arts.comics.dc.universe/msg/36e7e5232b00879b
FADE FROM BLACK TO:
CLOSE UP of a helmet with clouds racing past reflected on the visor:.
"Mama bear, this is baby bear, I'm coming in. Over."
"STEVE! I mean Captain Trevor, we thought we lost you in that skirmish out
over the Atlantic. Over."
"General! Good to hear you too. Gotta admit I was worried myself, but things
... got better, and I'm coming home. Better set the plates on the carrier,
I've got a wowser of a story for ya."
CUT TO some the command room high above an air carrier when a sailor walks
over to another sailer. "Excuse me, general, Satcom is tracking Captain
Trevor's radio and GPS signal going about 300 MPH, but non of our radar
stations, ships or planes can get a bead on him."
"Um, Steve, you're not flying back in some new kind of stealth invisible jet
are ya?"
"General, ya gotta see it to believe it."
CUT TO close up of Steve Trevor in his flight suits, helmet with oxygen
mask, with the reflection of clouds moving past his visor.
ZOOM SLOWLY OUT out revealing an arm under each of his shoulders, holding
him in drunk man's lift, with his feet dangling, with each arm bare but for
a single bracelet and strands of dark hair whipping in front of the smiling
face of his rescuer as she's flying him home over the ocean waves--without a
plane.
Fade to gold text on black: WONDER.
-- Ken from Chicago
BTR1701
<ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> in article BTR1702-0995DB...@news.east.earthlink.net, BTR1701
> at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 7:54 AM:
>
> > She was never a bimbo on "Buffy". She was always portrayed as being
> > very intelligent, just cruel, tactless and catty also.
>
> Um - she was a total moron on the first season of Buffy. Remember Willow
> telling her the 'delete' key meant 'deliver' and she fell for it?
If I didn't know anything about computers, I might fall for it, too.
There's a difference between stupid and ignorant.
ANIM8Rfsk
BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 1:08 PM:
And she was both in those early episodes.
Yes, she got better.
But there was no hint of her being anything but an ignorant comic book bimbo
before she turned around.
Don't get me wrong - I like Cordy. A lot.
But don't superimpose the later Cordy on the early one. There was no hint
of what she'd become. Other than gorgeous.
ANIM8Rfsk
nanof...@gmail.com wrote on 3/19/05 1:19 PM:
> The same thing happened with Wesley. He was absolutely useless on
> BtVS, but was very effective on "Angel". The change would be like
> taking Topher Grace's character on "That 70's Show" and making the
> character into James Bond in just a few years. I think Joss just
> wanted to drive people mad with the changes in the characters.
>
he did have 6 months as a rogue demon hunter between shows. And was pretty
goofy when he joined Angel. But yeah, Giles wouldn't even recognize Dark
Wesley.
KenM47
These are great IMO. If they're yours, you should send them into
somebody.
BTW, I've decided it should be Heather Graham with a nice dark dye
job. ;-)
Ken (Brooklyn)
peachy ashie passion
There is nothing moronic about not being knowledgable about the
unfamiliar. Even the most brilliant of humans has to have the
opportunity to learn before they know.
--
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an
infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without
even considering if there are men on base. -Dave Barry
ashes...@verizon.net
AFPslave to Mistress Stacie
http://www.vrdimension.com/
Grand Opening Feb 19
RichA
She had evolved beyond the bimbo when she was still in Buffy.
The idea was she needed a catalyst to help her see a better way.
That catalyst was her father getting screwed for tax evasion,
rendering her poor. After that, she slowly became what she
ended up as on "Angel."
-Rich
BTR1701
<ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> in article BTR1702-EC5838...@news.east.earthlink.net, BTR1701
> at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 1:08 PM:
>
> > In article <BE61CC13.28498%ANIM...@cox.net>, ANIM8Rfsk
> > <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> in article BTR1702-0995DB...@news.east.earthlink.net,
> >> BTR1701 at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 7:54 AM:
> >>
> >>> She was never a bimbo on "Buffy". She was always portrayed as being
> >>> very intelligent, just cruel, tactless and catty also.
> >>
> >> Um - she was a total moron on the first season of Buffy. Remember
> >> Willow telling her the 'delete' key meant 'deliver' and she fell for it?
> >
> > If I didn't know anything about computers, I might fall for it, too.
> >
> > There's a difference between stupid and ignorant.
>
> And she was both in those early episodes.
I didn't see any evidence of stupid. Harmony was stupid. Cordelia was
not. Sure, she fell for Willow's ruse because she was not
computer-literate and her arrogance and ego made her believe that Willow
would be willing to help her even though she treated Willow like crap.
None of that makes her stupid, however.
> Yes, she got better.
>
> But there was no hint of her being anything but an ignorant comic book
> bimbo before she turned around.
Now you've changed from stupid to ignorant.
BTR1701
<ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> in article g52p31tbabn3hf2ej...@4ax.com, shawn at
> nanof...@gmail.com wrote on 3/19/05 1:19 PM:
>
> > ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> in article BTR1702-0995DB...@news.east.earthlink.net,
> >> BTR1701 at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 7:54 AM:
> >>
> >>> She was never a bimbo on "Buffy". She was always portrayed as being
> >>> very intelligent, just cruel, tactless and catty also.
> >>
> >> Um - she was a total moron on the first season of Buffy. Remember
> >> Willow telling her the 'delete' key meant 'deliver' and she fell for it?
> >>
> >> She was pretty much the definition of a bimbo at the start.
> >>
> >> She didn't get smart until season 3.
> >
> > The same thing happened with Wesley. He was absolutely useless on
> > BtVS, but was very effective on "Angel". The change would be like
> > taking Topher Grace's character on "That 70's Show" and making the
> > character into James Bond in just a few years. I think Joss just
> > wanted to drive people mad with the changes in the characters.
> he did have 6 months as a rogue demon hunter between shows.
What's the difference between a rogue demon and a regular demon and why
do they need to be hunted?
BTR1701
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
> CUT TO interior of a huge room with the stealth fighter with a bunch of
> soldiers, many of them Air Force and a curator in a business suit and a
> woman with long dark flowing ravenous hair
Ravenous hair? You mean her hair is extremely hungry?
Ken from Chicago
"KenM47" <Ken...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
Thanks. It's pretty much stuff I posted 2 years ago. in the
rec.arts.comics.dc.universe newsgroup.
-- Ken from Chicago
ANIM8Rfsk
no...@none.com wrote on 3/19/05 4:21 PM:
> She had evolved beyond the bimbo when she was still in Buffy.
> The idea was she needed a catalyst to help her see a better way.
> That catalyst was her father getting screwed for tax evasion,
> rendering her poor. After that, she slowly became what she
> ended up as on "Angel."
Oh, she was well on her way before the tax thing.
I'm not sure how you color what happened to her father as 'getting screwed'
being as he apparently hadn't paid taxes at all in years.
peachy ashie passion
Silly BTR.
regular demons might be good. Like Clem. Or Angel.
Rogue demons are obviously bad!
*smirk*
ANIM8Rfsk
BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 4:42 PM:
>> And she was both in those early episodes.
>
> I didn't see any evidence of stupid.
Then you weren't looking very hard.
Harmony was stupid.
Well, yeah, and never really outgrew it, but that doesn't mean Cordy wasn't.
Cordelia was
> not.
Except for the 'sure she was' part.
Sure, she fell for Willow's ruse because she was not
> computer-literate and her arrogance and ego made her believe that Willow
> would be willing to help her even though she treated Willow like crap.
>
> None of that makes her stupid, however.
No, you've got cause and effect reversed. She wasn't stupid because she
fell for it, she fell for it because she was stupid.
>
>> Yes, she got better.
>>
>> But there was no hint of her being anything but an ignorant comic book
>> bimbo before she turned around.
>
> Now you've changed from stupid to ignorant.
Gee, wow, since you can't actually support your completely untenable
position, you come up with that zinger. I'm awestruck.
Look, if Cordy had left the series at the end of season 1, or say anytime
before she started dating Xander, do you really think there's anything in
those stories that says "this is a bright woman, you just don't know yet"?
Ken from Chicago
"ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:BE6235D5.286BB%ANIM...@cox.net...
The same way Buffy ruined Faith's life by killing her father figure, The
Mayor.
-- Ken from Chicago
BTR1701
<ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> in article BTR1702-648EA1...@news.east.earthlink.net, BTR1701
> at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 4:42 PM:
>
> >> And she was both in those early episodes.
> >
> > I didn't see any evidence of stupid.
>
> Then you weren't looking very hard.
No, you weren't looking very hard.
> > Cordelia was not.
>
> Except for the 'sure she was' part.
Except for the "no she wasn't" part.
[I can play this game, too.]
> > Sure, she fell for Willow's ruse because she was not
> > computer-literate and her arrogance and ego made her believe that
> > Willow would be willing to help her even though she treated Willow like crap.
> >
> > None of that makes her stupid, however.
>
> No, you've got cause and effect reversed. She wasn't stupid because she
> fell for it, she fell for it because she was stupid.
And your objective evidence (as opposed to your personal opinion) for
that is?
> >> Yes, she got better.
> >>
> >> But there was no hint of her being anything but an ignorant comic book
> >> bimbo before she turned around.
> >
> > Now you've changed from stupid to ignorant.
>
> Gee, wow, since you can't actually support your completely untenable
> position, you come up with that zinger. I'm awestruck.
How is it untenable? Apparently just 'cause you say so.
All I've seen from you so far in terms of evidence for your position is
"No, she wasn't."
Not really a stunning rebuttal. You've offered nothing other than your
personal opinion to back up your position. Your opinion does not make
your position automatically "tenable".
There is objective evidence from with the series that the character was
not stupid. The ball is in your court. You say she was stupid. You prove
it.
> Look, if Cordy had left the series at the end of season 1, or say anytime
> before she started dating Xander, do you really think there's anything in
> those stories that says "this is a bright woman, you just don't know
> yet"?
That doesn't mean she wasn't bright anymore than it means Willow wasn't
gay just because we hadn't seen it on screen at that point.
BTR1701
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
Faith's life was ruined long before she ever even spoke to the mayor.
Ken from Chicago
"BTR1701" <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:BTR1702-686980...@news.east.earthlink.net...
Might there be some EXAMPLES of Cordy's stupidity?
As opposed to her narcissism?
And could examples of narcissism be interpreted as stupidity?
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
But The Mayor would have been able to help Faith, if weren't for those pesky
kids.
-- Ken from Chicago
James Gassaway
news:qOWdnWixoLT...@comcast.com...
And that dang troublesome dog.
--
Multiversal Mercenaries. You name it, we kill it. Any time, any reality.
alphakitten
Yes. See her conversation with Buffy in OOMOOS about loneliness. That
was when most of us realized she was much smarter and more self-aware
than she acted.
~Angel
James Craine
trotsky wrote:
> RichA wrote:
>>>> I do. She and Denisof were easily the best actors in the ANGEL cast.
>>>
>>>
>>> I think she could carry off the part. I think I would probably rank
>>> the actors as 1) Denisof, 2) Acker, 3) Charisma. I've seen Charisma do
>>> decent jobs at drama, and she's absolutely great at inserting light
>>> moments in the midst of dark scenes. She's great at comedy and you
>>> know that Joss will be putting in comedic moments in the movie.
>>
>>
>> Her sarcastic humour in "Angel" was perfect in each scene.
>
>
>
> I never understood how she went from being a total bimbo on "Buffy" to
> being the one with the most clever remarks on "Angel".
>
Her experience in L.A. was humbling to say the least.
Working with Angel exposed her to people who had very severe
problem and put her on their side. She couldn't see them as
'losers' and dismiss them anymore. At the end of S1 she was
cursed by a demon and made to feel all of the emotional pain
of 'everyone' and that had a very powerful impact on her.
The visions caused her to feel others pain also. Remember
her speech to Harmony about empty air-pockets being filled.
(I hated that dialog.) It took a year but it changed her
into a better person. From minor evil to good.
James Craine
ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
I didn't take that as a sign of low intelligence. I took
that as a sign of un-interest. I have learned several
computer languages and 4 operating systems and every one of
them was the most complicated thing I had ever seen until I
had been at it for a while.
She expected to marry money and didn't see any need to learn
any practical skills. (Don't we have nerds for this?)
James Craine
ANIM8Rfsk wrote:
> Look, if Cordy had left the series at the end of season 1, or say anytime
> before she started dating Xander, do you really think there's anything in
> those stories that says "this is a bright woman, you just don't know yet"?
>
In 'Out of Mind Out of Sight' didn't an English teacher
comment positively on her intelligence?
We know Willow is smart. Cordelia, Buffy, Xander, and Willow
were all in some of the same academic classes so it follows
that they were all above average.
By her general demeanor and speech she just came off as
intelligent to me. Just as Harmony came off as a dingbat.
James Craine
shawn wrote:
> ANIM8Rfsk <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
>>in article BTR1702-0995DB...@news.east.earthlink.net, BTR1701 at
>>BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 7:54 AM:
>>
>>
>>>She was never a bimbo on "Buffy". She was always portrayed as being very
>>>intelligent, just cruel, tactless and catty also.
>>
>>Um - she was a total moron on the first season of Buffy. Remember Willow
>>telling her the 'delete' key meant 'deliver' and she fell for it?
>>
>>She was pretty much the definition of a bimbo at the start.
>>
>>She didn't get smart until season 3.
>
>
> The same thing happened with Wesley. He was absolutely useless on
> BtVS, but was very effective on "Angel". The change would be like
> taking Topher Grace's character on "That 70's Show" and making the
> character into James Bond in just a few years. I think Joss just
> wanted to drive people mad with the changes in the characters.
>
I thought that Wesley's evolution was well done. When we
first see him he is trained but has no field experience. He
has no leadership ability and therefore gets no respect. He
leaves in disgrace and sets out to make something of
himself. When we meet him again he has been hunting demons
and has some useful skills (languages, understanding of
demon culture) but is not yet competent. He then evolves in
competency and gains in respect and stature as he goes. I
don't see any sudden jump in Wesley's abilities. I see a
gradual evolution that was very well done.
ANIM8Rfsk
BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 9:58 PM:
> In article <BE6238D4.286C3%ANIM...@cox.net>, ANIM8Rfsk
> <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> in article BTR1702-648EA1...@news.east.earthlink.net, BTR1701
>> at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 4:42 PM:
>>
>>>> And she was both in those early episodes.
>>>
>>> I didn't see any evidence of stupid.
>>
>> Then you weren't looking very hard.
>
> No, you weren't looking very hard.
>
>>> Cordelia was not.
>>
>> Except for the 'sure she was' part.
>
> Except for the "no she wasn't" part.
>
> [I can play this game, too.]
Not very well. I guess you can't do anything very well though now, can you?
Yawn.
>
>>> Sure, she fell for Willow's ruse because she was not
>>> computer-literate and her arrogance and ego made her believe that
>>> Willow would be willing to help her even though she treated Willow like
>>> crap.
>>>
>>> None of that makes her stupid, however.
>>
>> No, you've got cause and effect reversed. She wasn't stupid because she
>> fell for it, she fell for it because she was stupid.
>
> And your objective evidence (as opposed to your personal opinion) for
> that is?
>
>>>> Yes, she got better.
>>>>
>>>> But there was no hint of her being anything but an ignorant comic book
>>>> bimbo before she turned around.
>>>
>>> Now you've changed from stupid to ignorant.
>>
>> Gee, wow, since you can't actually support your completely untenable
>> position, you come up with that zinger. I'm awestruck.
>
> How is it untenable? Apparently just 'cause you say so.
Well, one of us has to point out how wrong you are.
>
> All I've seen from you so far in terms of evidence for your position is
> "No, she wasn't."
And you aren't looking for anything but confirmation for your own delusions,
are you? Yawn.
>
> Not really a stunning rebuttal. You've offered nothing other than your
> personal opinion to back up your position. Your opinion does not make
> your position automatically "tenable".
>
> There is objective evidence from with the series that the character was
> not stupid.
No, There's not. Except in your imagination. Yawn.
The ball is in your court. You say she was stupid. You prove
> it.
Why? You've done such a beautiful job of proving you're stupid, anything
else would be anticlimactic.
>
>> Look, if Cordy had left the series at the end of season 1, or say anytime
>> before she started dating Xander, do you really think there's anything in
>> those stories that says "this is a bright woman, you just don't know
>> yet"?
>
> That doesn't mean she wasn't bright anymore than it means Willow wasn't
> gay just because we hadn't seen it on screen at that point.
Bored now. Plonk.
ANIM8Rfsk
alphak...@netscape.net wrote on 3/19/05 10:32 PM:
>> Look, if Cordy had left the series at the end of season 1, or say anytime
>> before she started dating Xander, do you really think there's anything in
>> those stories that says "this is a bright woman, you just don't know yet"?
>>
>
>
>
>
> Yes. See her conversation with Buffy in OOMOOS about loneliness. That
> was when most of us realized she was much smarter and more self-aware
> than she acted.
Good point. Just barely in season 1, but she did squeak in. :-)
Paul Hyett
>>
>>She was pretty much the definition of a bimbo at the start.
>>
>>She didn't get smart until season 3.
>
>The same thing happened with Wesley. He was absolutely useless on
>BtVS, but was very effective on "Angel".
IMO the change can be totally accounted for by battle-hardening.
--
Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett
Ken from Chicago
"James Craine" <James...@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Wes is ANGEL's "Spike". He started out as a poofster but ... went dark ...
and toughened up. And died in the series finale with his one true
love--after having let go of love with a femme fatale. Denisof did a great
job with the role.
-- Ken from Chicago
ANIM8Rfsk
p...@nojunkmailplease.co.uk wrote on 3/20/05 12:27 AM:
Getting your arm ripped off has GOT to help on that score.
BTR1701
<ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> in article BTR1702-686980...@news.east.earthlink.net, BTR1701
> at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 9:58 PM:
>
> > In article <BE6238D4.286C3%ANIM...@cox.net>, ANIM8Rfsk
> > <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> >> in article BTR1702-648EA1...@news.east.earthlink.net,
> >> BTR1701 at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 4:42 PM:
> >>
> >>>> And she was both in those early episodes.
> >>>
> >>> I didn't see any evidence of stupid.
> >>
> >> Then you weren't looking very hard.
> >
> > No, you weren't looking very hard.
> >
> >>> Cordelia was not.
> >>
> >> Except for the 'sure she was' part.
> >
> > Except for the "no she wasn't" part.
> >
> > [I can play this game, too.]
>
> Not very well. I guess you can't do anything very well though now, can
> you?
>
> Yawn.
LOL!I gave you an opportunity to gracefully bow out of the kindergarteny
"I know you are but what am I" approach. Not surprised to see you didn't
take it.
Burp.
> >>> Sure, she fell for Willow's ruse because she was not
> >>> computer-literate and her arrogance and ego made her believe that
> >>> Willow would be willing to help her even though she treated Willow
> >>> like
> >>> crap.
> >>>
> >>> None of that makes her stupid, however.
> >>
> >> No, you've got cause and effect reversed. She wasn't stupid because
> >> she fell for it, she fell for it because she was stupid.
> >
> > And your objective evidence (as opposed to your personal opinion) for
> > that is?
No answer here, I see.
> >>>> Yes, she got better.
> >>>>
> >>>> But there was no hint of her being anything but an ignorant comic
> >>>> book bimbo before she turned around.
> >>>
> >>> Now you've changed from stupid to ignorant.
> >>
> >> Gee, wow, since you can't actually support your completely untenable
> >> position, you come up with that zinger. I'm awestruck.
> >
> > How is it untenable? Apparently just 'cause you say so.
>
> Well, one of us has to point out how wrong you are.
So I was right. You're right merely because you are you.
I see...
> > All I've seen from you so far in terms of evidence for your position is
> > "No, she wasn't."
>
> And you aren't looking for anything but confirmation for your own
> delusions, are you? Yawn.
Now you've moved from personal opinion as evidence to ad hominems.
Well done.
Cough.
> > Not really a stunning rebuttal. You've offered nothing other than your
> > personal opinion to back up your position. Your opinion does not make
> > your position automatically "tenable".
> >
> > There is objective evidence from with the series that the character was
> > not stupid.
>
> No, There's not. Except in your imagination. Yawn.
Ah, so I imagined the episode where she aced her SATs and was accepted
to the Ivy League schools. Cool! That means my imagination is on par
with Joss Whedon's.
Fart.
> The ball is in your court. You say she was stupid. You prove
> > it.
>
> Why? You've done such a beautiful job of proving you're stupid, anything
> else would be anticlimactic.
More ad hominems... kinda getting redundant though. Can you come up with
some other more interesting way of not proving anything you say?
> >> Look, if Cordy had left the series at the end of season 1, or say
> >> anytime before she started dating Xander, do you really think there's anything
> >> in those stories that says "this is a bright woman, you just don't know
> >> yet"?
> >
> > That doesn't mean she wasn't bright anymore than it means Willow wasn't
> > gay just because we hadn't seen it on screen at that point.
>
> Bored now. Plonk.
And another coward runs away...
BTR1701
<kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
If there are, this fella hasn't managed to come up with anything other
than her hitting the "delete" key when Willow told her to. However,
that's not stupidity, it's ignorance.
But it doesn't matter because he's killfiled me now. He's apparently one
of those people who is so insecure that if you don't agree with them
within two posts or if you ask them to actually back up what they say
instead of just accepting it on faith, they run away and hide their head
in the sand.
Ken from Chicago
It's okay. Anim can be redeemed.
-- Ken from Chicago
Jason Maxwell
news:sb2dnXXLYZv...@comcast.com...
>
> Might there be some EXAMPLES of Cordy's stupidity?
>
> As opposed to her narcissism?
>
> And could examples of narcissism be interpreted as stupidity?
>
"It's like when I go shopping.I have to have the most expensive thing. Not
because it's expensive, but
because it costs more."
Jason
Harry The Horse
>
>> She was never a bimbo on "Buffy". She was always portrayed as being
>> very intelligent, just cruel, tactless and catty also.
>
> Um - she was a total moron on the first season of Buffy. Remember
> Willow telling her the 'delete' key meant 'deliver' and she fell for
> it?
>
hundred percent consistent character development. There are dozens of
examples that show Cordy as bright but shallow and materialistic. The
stupid one was Harmony, remember.
Ken from Chicago
"Jason Maxwell" <jaso...@cox.net> wrote in message
news:ovh%d.113365$bu.24282@fed1read06...
Ah, good choice.
However there is a loop hole: There are goods that are "cheap" and goods
that "cost less".
-- Ken from Chicago
Terry McNeal
>back for her final ANGEL episode.
She worked with David Fury, the writer and director of the episode,
when she came back for the last episode.
Terry
trotsky
Ah yes, the plot device to bring about a complete personality
change--you can't beat that.
Rob Jensen
Plus, that was clearly a beginning computer class, which probably means
that the only reason Willow was there to begin with was as a TA. That
Cordelia is smart doesn't make her any less an idiot in that scene --
one more interested in gossiping than in her studies. This was, after
all, way back in '97, just before IMing really took off and email and
computers were still the domain of geeks until one learned how to use it
in jr. high or high school. Like the rest of the kids, Cordelia's a
sophomore here, and a rich, spoiled brat (who could always buy her
schoolwork from someone else) to boot -- I find it conceivable that she
was just starting to learn how to use a computer.
The joke wouldn't work *now,* though.
-- Rob
--
"I think [Rory's] just a whore, a strumpet and a crack addict." -- Amy
Sherman-Palladino, noted jokester
arnold kim
"Captain Infinity" <Infi...@world.std.com> wrote in message
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> The Time Has Come, arnold kim said
> To Talk Of Many Things...
>
>>I think that the point of the poster, like with all teaser posters, is to
>>create a sense of mystery about the character and the movie. You know,
>>tantalize the audience by giving just a little hint of Wonder Woman.
>
> Black hair, boobs, and bracelets? Interesting hint.
But off to the side, as opposed to showing her overtly. We don't see what
she looks like, her full costume, or anything.
Arnold Kim
Mark Nobles
> James Craine wrote:
> >
> >
> > trotsky wrote:
> >
> >> RichA wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>>> I do. She and Denisof were easily the best actors in the ANGEL cast.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I think she could carry off the part. I think I would probably rank
> >>>> the actors as 1) Denisof, 2) Acker, 3) Charisma. I've seen Charisma do
> >>>> decent jobs at drama, and she's absolutely great at inserting light
> >>>> moments in the midst of dark scenes. She's great at comedy and you
> >>>> know that Joss will be putting in comedic moments in the movie.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Her sarcastic humour in "Angel" was perfect in each scene.
But that was not her. That was Joss.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I never understood how she went from being a total bimbo on "Buffy" to
> >> being the one with the most clever remarks on "Angel".
> >>
> > Her experience in L.A. was humbling to say the least. Working with Angel
> > exposed her to people who had very severe problem and put her on their
> > side. She couldn't see them as 'losers' and dismiss them anymore. At the
> > end of S1 she was cursed by a demon and made to feel all of the
> > emotional pain of 'everyone' and that had a very powerful impact on her.
> > The visions caused her to feel others pain also. Remember her speech to
> > Harmony about empty air-pockets being filled. (I hated that dialog.) It
> > took a year but it changed her into a better person. From minor evil to
> > good.
>
>
> Ah yes, the plot device to bring about a complete personality
> change--you can't beat that.
>
Cordelia was never a total bimbo, even in "Welcome to the Hellmouth"
when she was nice to Buffy. Then there came "Invisible Girl" where she
revealed depth. It was actually the later scenes when she was making
comments about how hard Marie Antoinette worked to look good that were
out of character.
trotsky
Well, that may be true, but the fact remains she's almost a completely
different character on "Angel" than she was when she began on "Buffy".
Whether or not that gives you difficulty in suspending disbelief is up
to the individual, I guess.
The Babaloughesian
"BTR1701" <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:BTR1702-686980...@news.east.earthlink.net...
> In article <BE6238D4.286C3%ANIM...@cox.net>, ANIM8Rfsk
> <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
BTR1701
> > at BTR...@ix.netcom.com wrote on 3/19/05 4:42 PM:
> >
> > >> And she was both in those early episodes.
> > >
> > > I didn't see any evidence of stupid.
> >
> > Then you weren't looking very hard.
>
> No, you weren't looking very hard.
>
> > > Cordelia was not.
> >
> > Except for the 'sure she was' part.
>
> Except for the "no she wasn't" part.
>
> [I can play this game, too.]
>
> > > computer-literate and her arrogance and ego made her believe that
> > > Willow would be willing to help her even though she treated Willow
like crap.
> > >
> > > None of that makes her stupid, however.
> >
> > No, you've got cause and effect reversed. She wasn't stupid because she
> > fell for it, she fell for it because she was stupid.
>
> And your objective evidence (as opposed to your personal opinion) for
> that is?
>
> > >>
> > >> But there was no hint of her being anything but an ignorant comic
book
> > >> bimbo before she turned around.
> > >
> > > Now you've changed from stupid to ignorant.
> >
> > Gee, wow, since you can't actually support your completely untenable
> > position, you come up with that zinger. I'm awestruck.
>
> How is it untenable? Apparently just 'cause you say so.
>
> "No, she wasn't."
>
> personal opinion to back up your position. Your opinion does not make
> your position automatically "tenable".
>
> There is objective evidence from with the series that the character was
> it.
>
> > Look, if Cordy had left the series at the end of season 1, or say
anytime
> > before she started dating Xander, do you really think there's anything
in
> > those stories that says "this is a bright woman, you just don't know
> > yet"?
>
> That doesn't mean she wasn't bright anymore than it means Willow wasn't
> gay just because we hadn't seen it on screen at that point.
But Willow wasn't gay until they decided to write it into the plot.
The Babaloughesian
> In article <forge-E4F72C....@comcast.dca.giganews.com>,
> forge <fo...@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <BTR1702-DE81A2...@news.east.earthlink.net>,
> > BTR1701 <BTR...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > There's no rumour as such. Just people on the internet who keep
> > > > suggesting it for some inexplicable reason.
> > >
> > > It's hardly inexplicable. Carpenter would be great for the role. Hence
> > > people suggesting her.
> >
> > I don't think she can act the part.
>
> I do. She and Denisof were easily the best actors in the ANGEL cast.
Which isn't saying much.
bllbickel
Captain Infinity wrote:
> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>
> Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to
cast
> the face.
Well, there's always Jennifer Gardner and Halle Barry.
That's a joke. Then again, Barry reportedly ended up with one of the
two Joss Whedon lines that didn't get cut from the first X-Men movie,
so there is some history there.
Bill Bickel
http://www.comicsidontunderstand.com
http://www.missing-kids.us
http://mysterybooks.allinfoabout.com
The Babaloughesian
> In article <zLadnZJX1d6...@comcast.com>, "Ken from Chicago"
> <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > "ANIM8Rfsk" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:BE6235D5.286BB%ANIM...@cox.net...
> > > in article utcp31tcn5ng5ui22...@4ax.com, RichA at
> > > no...@none.com wrote on 3/19/05 4:21 PM:
> > >
> > >> She had evolved beyond the bimbo when she was still in Buffy.
> > >> The idea was she needed a catalyst to help her see a better way.
> > >> That catalyst was her father getting screwed for tax evasion,
> > >> rendering her poor. After that, she slowly became what she
> > >> ended up as on "Angel."
> > >
> > > Oh, she was well on her way before the tax thing.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure how you color what happened to her father as 'getting
> > > screwed'
> > > being as he apparently hadn't paid taxes at all in years.
> >
> > The same way Buffy ruined Faith's life by killing her father figure, The
> > Mayor.
>
> Faith's life was ruined long before she ever even spoke to the mayor.
Not in her opinion, and that's the point.
The Babaloughesian
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:WdWdnb6p75Z...@comcast.com...
Escept with Spike, it worked in the opposite direction. He started out
tough and then got poofsterism added to his backstory and personality.
bllbickel
Captain Infinity wrote:
> http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>
> Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to
cast
> the face.
Has anybody suggested Terminatrix Kristanna Loken?
ANIM8Rfsk
at billb...@gmail.com wrote on 3/21/05 2:48 PM:
> That's a joke. Then again, Barry reportedly ended up with one of the
> two Joss Whedon lines that didn't get cut from the first X-Men movie,
> so there is some history there.
And he blames her terrible line reading for ruining his words.
ANIM8Rfsk
babalou...@invalid.invalid wrote on 3/21/05 1:28 PM:
>> That doesn't mean she wasn't bright anymore than it means Willow wasn't
>> gay just because we hadn't seen it on screen at that point.
>
> But Willow wasn't gay until they decided to write it into the plot.
Exactly. You can't go back to anything before we saw Vampire Willow that
says 'see she was gay all along' just as you can't go back to Cordy before,
at the earliest, OOMOOS and say 'see, she wasn't a bimbo'
forge
"bllbickel" <billb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, there's always Jennifer Gardner and Halle Barry.
(Forge kills self)
Paris Hilton's Best 'Gal' Pal, Ian J. Ball
"bllbickel" <billb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Captain Infinity wrote:
> > http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
> >
> > Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have
> > to cast the face.
>
> Has anybody suggested Terminatrix Kristanna Loken?
Yes. But the problem here - Loken is Norwegen (and very obviously so),
while WW is supposed to be Mediterranean-looking...
P.S. And Loken's boobies aren't big enuff!!
--
"I feel horrible that, once again, someone has invaded my privacy...
I don't know why this stuff always happens to me..."
- Paris Hilton, 02/23/05 (Gee, Paris, I wonder why... Hmmm...)
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Ken from Chicago
"The Babaloughesian" <babalou...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:WdWdnb6p75Z...@comcast.com...
<snip>
>> Wes is ANGEL's "Spike". He started out as a poofster but ... went dark
>> ...
>> and toughened up. And died in the series finale with his one true
>> love--after having let go of love with a femme fatale. Denisof did a
>> great
>> job with the role.
>
> Escept with Spike, it worked in the opposite direction. He started out
> tough and then got poofsterism added to his backstory and personality.
>
>
Chronologically the poofsterness was first.
-- Ken from Chicago
BTR1701
<babalou...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Actually, in the character's current opinion, she has taken
responsibility for her evil deeds and no longer blames Buffy or anyone
else for her failures.
BTR1701
<babalou...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Matter of opinion. Yours is no more correct than anyone else's.
arnold kim
Actually, it would have been an okay line if she said it more off-the-cuff
and not so dramatically.
Arnold Kim
James Gassaway
<ijball***SPAM-No***@mac.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <1111444418....@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
> "bllbickel" <billb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Captain Infinity wrote:
> > > http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
> > >
> > > Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have
> > > to cast the face.
> >
> > Has anybody suggested Terminatrix Kristanna Loken?
>
> Yes. But the problem here - Loken is Norwegen (and very obviously so),
> while WW is supposed to be Mediterranean-looking...
>
>
> P.S. And Loken's boobies aren't big enuff!!
>
"Push-up Bra".
--
Multiversal Mercenaries. You name it, we kill it. Any time, any reality.
Rob Jensen
> Captain Infinity wrote:
>
>>http://www.buffy.nu/article.php3?id_article=8825
>>
>>Looks like they've already cast the breasts. Now they just have to
>
> cast
>
>>the face.
>
>
> Has anybody suggested Terminatrix Kristanna Loken?
>
Me. Only to dismiss her as too Germanic looking for a genre that wants
to *downplay* its more fascistic elements.
Ken from Chicago
"Paul Hyett" <p...@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In alt.tv.buffy-v-slayer on Mon, 21 Mar 2005, Ken from Chicago wrote :
>>
>>"The Babaloughesian" <babalou...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:3a8p7cF...@individual.net...
>>>
>>>
>>> tough and then got poofsterism added to his backstory and personality.
>>>
>>Chronologically the poofsterness was first.
>
> doesn't mean 'poof'.
> --
> Paul 'US Sitcom Fan' Hyett
I agree, but by SPIKE's standards, shy and sensitive = poofsterness (kinda
like Angel).
-- Ken from Chicago
BTR1701
<jaso...@cox.net> wrote:
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> >
> > Might there be some EXAMPLES of Cordy's stupidity?
> >
> > As opposed to her narcissism?
> >
> > And could examples of narcissism be interpreted as stupidity?
> >
> The one that sticks out to me from Welcome to the Hellmouth Part 2
>
> "It's like when I go shopping.I have to have the most expensive thing. Not
> because it's expensive, but because it costs more."
Yes, this seems like a lovely bit of airhead-speak but it isn't.
"Expensive", as Cordelia knows, is subjective: that new detergent might
be expensive and that flawed diamond cheap. "Costs more" is finite,
measureable and therefore attainable. Cordelia has to have the thing
that costs more than anybody else can afford, the thing that's
impossible for anybody else to get, because her world is about
measureable things and she intends to be the material girl at the top.
And since Cordelia is living in the very material world of American
society that the rest of us also occupy, she's usually right. Cordelia
may be a bitch-goddess but she has a calculator for a brain, something
she demonstrates later by acing her SATs.
ANIM8Rfsk
Infi...@world.std.com wrote on 3/22/05 4:13 PM:
> The Time Has Come, arnold kim said
> To Talk Of Many Things...
>
>>>> Then again, Barry reportedly ended up with one of the
>>>> two Joss Whedon lines that didn't get cut from the first X-Men movie,
>>>> so there is some history there.
>>>
>>> And he blames her terrible line reading for ruining his words.
>>
>> Actually, it would have been an okay line if she said it more off-the-cuff
>> and not so dramatically.
>
> What line are you guys talking about? And what's the second one?
The line Berry blew was 'do you know what happens to a toad hit by lighting?
the same as anything else'
the other was wolverine trying to prove who he was to cyclops
"it's me"
"prove it"
"You're a dick"
"okay"
Paul Hyett
>
>news:3a8p7cF...@individual.net...
>>
>>
>> tough and then got poofsterism added to his backstory and personality.
>>
>Chronologically the poofsterness was first.
I disagree - his human personality *was* shy & sensitive, but that
The Babaloughesian
Incorrect. I have a direct line to the PTB. Through me they dictate the
only real truth there is.
Mark Nobles
> arnold kim at arno...@optonline.net wrote
>
> >> Thanks. Still doesn't make me want to see the movie.
> >
> > However, Joss's other remaining line is probably the best in the movie.
> >
> > <Cyclops finds Wolverine (who don't really like each other), but suspects he
> > may be Mystique taking his form>
> >
> > Wolv: It's me.
> > Cycl: Prove it.
> > Wolv: You're a dick.
> > Cycl: <pause> Okay.
>
> Good point.
>
> I bet it still doesn't make Mark want to see the movie though. :-)
>
You win!