"Hi, dad."
Mojo
Dawnie
<bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>> Actually, the sexiest scene for me was Deb stripping down for Masuka, seeing
>> what was running through his mind. It was creepy at the same time, exactly
>> the way this show should be.
>
>Every scene with Masuka is creepy, but in a totally different way than
>the creepy scenes with Dexter and Trinity, or Tinity and his family, or
>Dexter and his victims, etc.
Oh yeah, the show is freaky awesome like that! 8-)
On a more serious note, this show can sometimes be a lot more
disturbing than the other serial killer shows (eg. CRIMINAL MINDS)
combined. It humanizes the titular character, and you end up thinking
more deeply about Dexter's psychopathy and corresponding mental state.
Now with the addition of Lithgow's character, it's even better!
Dawnie
wrote:
Re: DEXTER, Nov 22
> Anlatt the Builder wrote:
>> Until recently I thought it might be Trinity's wife - I thought maybe
>> she, and possibly her kids, knew about and had accepted Arthut's
>> quirky hobby for years. But this twist was a good one.
>
>Yeah, the daughter is the right height, and suitably creepy.
The other "daughter" is suitably creepy, too. What did they call her
by accident, Vera? The actress is so familiar, where have we seen her
before?
Mark Nobles
> In article <hek29r$h07$3...@news.albasani.net>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> > Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> > >Dawnie <siok...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:22:35 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > >>Re: DEXTER, Nov 22
> >
> > >>>Barry Margolin wrote:
> >
> > >>>>It's one of those "I should've seen this coming" type things, because
> > >>>>there didn't seem to be any good reason for the character to exist
> >
> > >Well, she fills the gratuitious nudity quotient this season, and rather
> > >well at that.
> >
> > Huh? The nudity was totally tuitous. It was a sex scene after all.
> >
> > Actually, the sexiest scene for me was Deb stripping down for Masuka, seeing
> > what was running through his mind. It was creepy at the same time, exactly
> > the way this show should be.
>
> Every scene with Masuka is creepy, but in a totally different way than
> the creepy scenes with Dexter and Trinity, or Tinity and his family, or
> Dexter and his victims, etc.
Actually, the kind of creepy is not all that different from the scenes
with Trinity and his victims.
Mark Nobles
> Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>John McWilliams <jp...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>David wrote:
> >>>>Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> >>>>>Maybe I'm just not as clever as some, but the original post was so
> >>>>>vague, I have a hard time believing that it could actually be considered
> >>>>>a spoiler. I knew what he was talking about because I'd already seen
> >>>>>the episode. So it seems like it's only a spoiler if you can't be
> >>>>>spoiled.
>
> >>>>>I suppose the timing of the post may have narrowed it down, if you
> >>>>>assume it was about a show that had just aired. Otherwise, I could
> >>>>>think of quite a few shows where that line would be a big deal.
>
> >>>>Since, unbelievably enough, two different people started almost the
> >>>>same exact thread at the same time, I figured that it must've just
> >>>>happened and it must be a big deal. Based on the time I thought it was
> >>>>either "Dexter" or "Desperate Housewives" (not knowing that it was
> >>>>preempted).
>
> >>>>Yes it ruined the episode for me, far less than a more blatant spoiler
> >>>>would have but still I knew that someone was going to deliver that
> >>>>line at or near the end and that took away some of the enjoyment. Even
> >>>>if it did turn out to be "Housewives" or some other show it still
> >>>>would have diminished my enjoyment since I kept waiting for that line.
> >>>>So I'm hoping that people have learned from this to not post spoilers
> >>>>this way.
>
> >>>I agree that spoiler warnings and spacing is a good thing.
>
> >>>But, perhaps oddly, knowing it was going to come at the end of the last
> >>>Dexter enhanced my enjoyment. I thought perhaps Dexter's shadowy Dad
> >>>would materialize in Lithgow's (Trinity) and Dexter's presence, and it'd
> >>>be Lithgow saying "Hi, Dad". .... oh, well.
>
> >>>Does the reveal mean that the young woman is in on Lithgow's secrets- or
> >>>some of them? Why would she have shot Carradine (FBI man) and Jennifer
> >>>Carpenter (Deborah)?
>
> >>She thinks her boyfriend is in love with his police partner, Deb. I'm
> >>guessing that shooting Keith Carradine was unintentional and that she
> >>had no idea he was a danger to her father.
>
> >I think that's backward. She apologized to Deb, suggesting that she
> >only wanted Lundy and hit Deb by accident.
>
> What do you mean, she apologized to Deb? How could she do that without
> admitting her guilt?
She said (omitting the pauses and stammers):
I just wanted to say I'm really sorry about what happened to you.
I can't even imagine looking into the eyes of the person you love
watching him as he takes his last breath.
Maybe if you'd get that big bug out of your ass you could pay attention
to what's happening onscreen.
Barry Margolin
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >>>>Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> >>>>>I think that's backward. She apologized to Deb, suggesting that she
> >>>>>only wanted Lundy and hit Deb by accident.
>
> >>>>What do you mean, she apologized to Deb? How could she do that without
> >>>>admitting her guilt?
>
> >>>She said (omitting the pauses and stammers):
> >>> I just wanted to say I'm really sorry about what happened to you.
> >>> I can't even imagine looking into the eyes of the person you love
> >>> watching him as he takes his last breath.
>
> >>That's not an apology, douchebag, which first requires an acknowledgement
> >>of guilt. That's an attempt to sound sympathetic.
>
> >At the time, that's what we were supposed to think. But we can
> >reinterpret that scene in light of what we know now.
>
> If it's phrased in such a way that your victim cannot possibly recognize
> it as an acknowledgement of guilt... Give me a break.
Read what I said: we (and Deb) were NOT supposed to recognize it as an
acknowledgement of guilt. Now that we know more, we can retcon it.
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
Adam H. Kerman
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Barry Margolin <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>>>Mark Nobles <cmn-n...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>I think that's backward. She apologized to Deb, suggesting that she
>>>>>>>only wanted Lundy and hit Deb by accident.
>>>>>>What do you mean, she apologized to Deb? How could she do that without
>>>>>>admitting her guilt?
>>>>>She said (omitting the pauses and stammers):
>>>>> I just wanted to say I'm really sorry about what happened to you.
>>>>> I can't even imagine looking into the eyes of the person you love
>>>>> watching him as he takes his last breath.
>>>>That's not an apology, douchebag, which first requires an acknowledgement
>>>>of guilt. That's an attempt to sound sympathetic.
>>>At the time, that's what we were supposed to think. But we can
>>>reinterpret that scene in light of what we know now.
>>If it's phrased in such a way that your victim cannot possibly recognize
>>it as an acknowledgement of guilt... Give me a break.
>Read what I said: we (and Deb) were NOT supposed to recognize it as an
>acknowledgement of guilt. Now that we know more, we can retcon it.
It's like an apology made to an empty room. Is that an actual apology?
Give me a break. Retcon all you like but it was no apology at all.
You're wrong, Barry.
Anyway, it was utterly stupid. If she didn't intend to assassinate Keith
Carrdine in front of a witness, why the fuck did she do it? It's not like
she was unaware that Deb was there.