Fun and games with CW programming.
William George Ferguson
won't be on the CW this fall, so I'll fill the vacuum. Down at the bottom,
I'll include a breakdown on all the shows 'presumably' under consideration.
Here's the probables, from my point of view.
Hours to fill - 13
WWE Smackdown (2 hour)
Gilmore Girls (hour)
Smallville (hour)
Supernatural (hour)
Amerca's Next Top Model/Beauty and the Geek (alternating) (hour)
Everwood (hour)
Veronica Mars (hour) [only because Ostroff loves it]
Everybody Hates Chris (half)
Reba (half)
Girlfriends (half)
That's 8 1/2 of the 13
New
The Game (half)
Palm Springs (hour)
Split Decision (hour)
Aquaman (hour)
That's 12 of the 13
And the schedule
Monday 800: Everwood 900: Palm Springs
Tuesday 800: Gilmore Girls 900: Veronica Mars
Wednesday 800: ANTM/BATG 900:
Thursday 800: EHC 830: Girlfriends 900: Reba 930: The Game
Friday 800: Smackdown
Sunday 700: Supernatural 800: Smallville 900: Aquaman
The CW could elect to do the comedies on Sunday and the scifi on Thursday
(Reba reruns do fairly well on Sundays right now)
There's an hour missing (and that's also one of the reasons I think VM will
get in). One Tree Hill might get that slot, or a new hour show might. IF
you look down at the bottom at the CW shows ordered to pilot, I don't
really see one of those getting in. In addition to the one I haven't
picked, the CW should have at least two other half hours and two other hour
shows ordered without schedule positions, to have replacements. They
almost have to have some more shows than we've seen so far go to pilot.
The players:
First the current UPN/WB shows.
WB Seventh Heaven hour cancelled
rumors swirl, but I don't think it's going to be uncancelled
WB Related hour cancelled
dead
WB Gilmore Girls hour ongoing
virtal lock on going to the CW
WB Supernatural hour ongoing
strong likelihood of going to the CW
WB One Tree Hill hour ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
WB Smallville hour ongoing
virtual lock on going to the CW
WB Everwood hour ongoing
some likelihood on goiong to the CW
WB Beauty and the Geek hour ongoing/strip
already announced as in
WB Reba half ongoing
strong likelihood on going to the CW
WB WILAY half cancelled
Dead
WB Living With Fran half cancelled
Dead
WB Twins half cancelled
Dead
WB Modern Men half ongoing
weak likelihood on going to the CW (didn't improve on Twins)
WB Survival of the Richest hour ongoing/strip
weak likelihood on going to the CW (didn't improve on WILAY)
WB Pepper Dennis hour ongoing
We'll see, starting tonight
WB The Bedford Diaries hour ongoing
Dying (premiere ratings sucked)
WB Charmed hour cancelled
Producer and all three stars have already said they're gone
UPN One on One half ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
UPN Half and Half half ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
UPN Girlfriends half ongoing
strong likelihood of going to the CW
UPN All of Us half ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
UPN Sex, Lies, and Secrets hour cancelled
Just to be completist
UPN America's Next Top Model hour ongoing/strip
already announced as in
UPN Veronica Mars hour ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
UPN Everybody Hates Chris half ongoing
virtual lock on going to the CW
UPN Love, Inc. half ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
UPN Eve half ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
UPN Cuts half ongoing
weak likelihood of going to the CW
UPN WWE Smackdown
already announced as in
UPN South Beach hour cancelled
Dead
The Pilots
Flirt half Updated: 3/29/06
Wayne Brady: only male staffer on women's magazine
The Game half Updated: 3/22/06
Backdoor spinoff of Girlfriends. Wives and SOs of pro footballers
Palm Springs hour Updated: 3/20/06
Kevin Williamson project. coming of age, troubled teen in gated community
Runaway hour Updated: 3/24/2006
Entire family as "The Fugitive", trying to prove father's innocenc
She Said, He Said half Updated: 4/3/06
story from woman's viewpoing and from man's viewpoint
Split Decision hour Updated: 3/22/2006
Alona Tal. Double plotline, split at beginnng when she decides to hang
with cool kids or not
Aquaman project hour Updated: 3/22/06
Giving Aquaman the Smallville treatment
--
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- Willow Rosenberg
WQ
crack at it now.
To counter NBC's all-male Sunday with Football, CW goes all-female
with:
7:00 America's Next Top Model / Beauty and the Geek
8:00 Girlfriends
8:30 Half & Half
9:00 Reba
9:30 SHE SAID, HE SAID
Monday sticks with sitcoms, but with a fresh new look:
8:00 Everybody Hates Chris
8:30 ALIENS IN AMERICA [just announced pilot order]
9:00 All of Us
9:30 FLIRT
Tuesday sticks with one, adds a newbie:
8:00 Gilmore Girls
9:00 SPLIT DECISION
Wednesday is the wild card:
8:00 Take your pick: Veronica Mars / One Tree Hill / Everwood
9:00 PALM SPRINGS
Thursday stays put with:
8:00 Smallville
9:00 Supernatural
Friday stays put with:
8:00 WWE Friday Night Smackdown
But if I really did it my way, the above would remain the same except
for:
Wednesday:
8:00 Everwood
9:00 PALM SPRINGS
Friday:
8:00 Veronica Mars [it did somewhat well during its brief CBS run in
this slot]
9:00 One Tree Hill
And I'd add Saturday with:
8:00 WWE Saturday Night Smackdown [this could work on Saturday]
But if I really, really did it my way, none of these shows would be on
as I'd start totally from scratch and also rename The CW to the The WQ.
alte...@yahoo.com
WQ
--- It's just wishful thinking that it is cancelled.
Zombie Elvis
>But if I really, really did it my way, none of these shows would be on
>as I'd start totally from scratch and also rename The CW to the The WQ.
Ah yes, nothing but thirty year old sitcoms and John Stamos projects.
Let me contain my excitement.
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should have Joe Peschi beaten severely and buried
alive."
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roberto...@ameritech.net
http://www.freewebs.com/robertocastillo/
WQ
Zombie Elvis wrote:
> On 4 Apr 2006 19:11:17 -0700, "WQ" <w...@email.com> wrote:
>
> >But if I really, really did it my way, none of these shows would be on
> >as I'd start totally from scratch and also rename The CW to the The WQ.
>
> Ah yes, nothing but thirty year old sitcoms and John Stamos projects.
> Let me contain my excitement.
--- 30-year-old sitcoms are so yesteryear. Today's sitcoms are even
before yesteryear. And John Stamos landing on ER next fall doesn't win
any big points with me either. So you got all that wrong.
William George Ferguson
>> Not to get off topic, but when was Related officially cancelled?
On 4 Apr 2006 19:40:34 -0700, "WQ" <w...@email.com> wrote:
>--- It's just wishful thinking that it is cancelled.
Of course it isn't cancelled. Just because they've shown all the episodes,
aren't making any more episodes, and the actors have moved on to take other
jobs, doesn't mean it's cancelled (and I'm looking forward to the new
season of Savannah).
Laddy
"William George Ferguson" <wmgf...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
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> >alte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>> Not to get off topic, but when was Related officially cancelled?
>
> On 4 Apr 2006 19:40:34 -0700, "WQ" <w...@email.com> wrote:
>>--- It's just wishful thinking that it is cancelled.
>
> Of course it isn't cancelled. Just because they've shown all the
> episodes,
> aren't making any more episodes, and the actors have moved on to take
> other
> jobs, doesn't mean it's cancelled (and I'm looking forward to the new
> season of Savannah).
>
LOL
William George Ferguson
>I already did this two months ago, but things change, so here's my
>crack at it now.
But nobody had done it in the last week, there was obviously a missing
opportunity there :)
>To counter NBC's all-male Sunday with Football, CW goes all-female
>with:
>
>7:00 America's Next Top Model / Beauty and the Geek
>8:00 Girlfriends
>8:30 Half & Half
>9:00 Reba
>9:30 SHE SAID, HE SAID
I don't see them putting the reality wheel on Sunday at 7pm. Keep in mind
that, unlike us, they want it to succeed.
>Monday sticks with sitcoms, but with a fresh new look:
>
>8:00 Everybody Hates Chris
>8:30 ALIENS IN AMERICA [just announced pilot order]
>9:00 All of Us
>9:30 FLIRT
The Aliens pilot won't shoot until June, and is being targeted as a
possible mid-season replacement.
>Tuesday sticks with one, adds a newbie:
>
>8:00 Gilmore Girls
>9:00 SPLIT DECISION
>
>Wednesday is the wild card:
>
>8:00 Take your pick: Veronica Mars / One Tree Hill / Everwood
>9:00 PALM SPRINGS
Everything anybody connected to the new network has said indicates that if
Veronica Mars is picked up, it will run behind Gilmore Girls. It's almost
true that it would only be picked up to run behind Gilmore Girls.
>Thursday stays put with:
>
>8:00 Smallville
>9:00 Supernatural
I really do think they're going to pick up the Aquaman show. If they do, I
don't see them not pairing it with Smallville.
Of course, I also think they're going to keep Supernatural, so that made
the Sunday positioning make sense (it's the only 3 hour block).
>Friday stays put with:
>
>8:00 WWE Friday Night Smackdown
I think this has been a given in all scenarios, ever since it's been
confirmed that Smackdown will be in the lineup.
>But if I really did it my way, the above would remain the same except
>for:
>
>Wednesday:
>
>8:00 Everwood
>9:00 PALM SPRINGS
>
>Friday:
>
>8:00 Veronica Mars [it did somewhat well during its brief CBS run in
>this slot]
>9:00 One Tree Hill
Ronny really can't anchor a night, not at this time.
>And I'd add Saturday with:
>
>8:00 WWE Saturday Night Smackdown [this could work on Saturday]
I do agree that if they extend to Saturday, Rasslin' works there (and is
the ideal 'bring its own audience' show to extend to Saturday with). I
don't see them doing it, certainly not the first season.
As it stands, based on the current programming, they have four solid nights
worth of programming, with the exact nights those are on varying. They
have Tuesday with Gilmore Girls and whatever they put on behind it, they
have Thursday, or whatever night they put Smallville on, they have Friday
with Smackdown, they have whatever night they put the sitcoms on, and they
have the reality wheel. They need to position these for maximum coverage
through the week.
So, starting off, lets all agree that Smackdown is on Friday. One night
down and five to go.
Gilmore Girls will likely stay on Tuesday. They will either put a new show
or one of the weaker carry overs after it, because they need the stronger
carry overs for other nights. If they renew VM, it will go here, if it
doesn't go here, it won't be renewed.
The reality wheel can work at either 8pm or 9pm. They won't move it to 7pm
or 9pm on Sunday, because that's likely to wreck it. That leaves Monday,
Wednesday, or Thursday. Whichever night it moves to, it will be paired
with a new show or with a weaker carryover
Smallville will anchor a night in the 8pm slot. It could be any of the
four nights. It will likely be paired with Supernatural, which has doen
well, but isn't ready to anchor a night yet.
The sitcoms will likely be stripped on a single night.
That's five of the six nights, leaving one left. The WB is obviously
trying to position Everwood to take over 7th's slot. If that happens, the
rest of the schedule just falls into place, with the only question being,
do the sitcoms take Thursday and the sf take Sunday, or vice-versa?
WQ
> On 4 Apr 2006 19:11:17 -0700, "WQ" <w...@email.com> wrote:
>
> >I already did this two months ago, but things change, so here's my
> >crack at it now.
>
> But nobody had done it in the last week, there was obviously a missing
> opportunity there :)
>
> >To counter NBC's all-male Sunday with Football, CW goes all-female
> >with:
> >
> >7:00 America's Next Top Model / Beauty and the Geek
> >8:00 Girlfriends
> >8:30 Half & Half
> >9:00 Reba
> >9:30 SHE SAID, HE SAID
--- Well, it's all a crapshoot anyway, but I'd still slot Sunday this
way. It's lightweight counterprogramming to all the heavyweight stuff
of dramas and football and movies on the other nets. It carves out a
distinct identity for the night, one primarily targetting femme viewers
looking for fluff and laughs.
> I don't see them putting the reality wheel on Sunday at 7pm. Keep in mind
> that, unlike us, they want it to succeed.
--- No reason why ANTM couldn't succeed on Sunday at 7. Who would've
even thought it'd succeed on Wednesdays, or at all?
> >Monday sticks with sitcoms, but with a fresh new look:
> >
> >8:00 Everybody Hates Chris
> >8:30 ALIENS IN AMERICA [just announced pilot order]
> >9:00 All of Us
> >9:30 FLIRT
>
> The Aliens pilot won't shoot until June, and is being targeted as a
> possible mid-season replacement.
--- Well, that screws up my Monday night. Maybe All of Us moves back
to 8:30 and the Girlfriends spinoff The Game slips in at 9?
> >Tuesday sticks with one, adds a newbie:
> >
> >8:00 Gilmore Girls
> >9:00 SPLIT DECISION
> >
> >Wednesday is the wild card:
> >
> >8:00 Take your pick: Veronica Mars / One Tree Hill / Everwood
> >9:00 PALM SPRINGS
>
> Everything anybody connected to the new network has said indicates that if
> Veronica Mars is picked up, it will run behind Gilmore Girls. It's almost
> true that it would only be picked up to run behind Gilmore Girls.
--- Personally, I don't think Split Decision will work as an hour-long
series but at this point I'm giving it the benefit of a doubt. As for
VM, the network can say what it wants, but the show is so dead in the
water ratings-wise. There's nowhere they can put it on that'll see its
lot improve any, except maybe Friday at 8 which can be realistically
ruled out for now. So why would they want to stick with a show that
has no chance of doing better than it is, being pretty underwhelmingly
as it is?
> >Thursday stays put with:
> >
> >8:00 Smallville
> >9:00 Supernatural
>
> I really do think they're going to pick up the Aquaman show. If they do, I
> don't see them not pairing it with Smallville.
--- I originally thought Aquaman would get a pick-up, but then as I
read the premise I'm thinking this show is really stupid. The king of
Atlantis runs a diving shop? Maybe as a sitcom I'd give it some slack.
> Of course, I also think they're going to keep Supernatural, so that made
> the Sunday positioning make sense (it's the only 3 hour block).
>
> >Friday stays put with:
> >
> >8:00 WWE Friday Night Smackdown
>
> I think this has been a given in all scenarios, ever since it's been
> confirmed that Smackdown will be in the lineup.
>
> >But if I really did it my way, the above would remain the same except
> >for:
> >
> >Wednesday:
> >
> >8:00 Everwood
> >9:00 PALM SPRINGS
> >
> >Friday:
> >
> >8:00 Veronica Mars [it did somewhat well during its brief CBS run in
> >this slot]
> >9:00 One Tree Hill
>
> Ronny really can't anchor a night, not at this time.
>
> >And I'd add Saturday with:
> >
> >8:00 WWE Saturday Night Smackdown [this could work on Saturday]
>
> I do agree that if they extend to Saturday, Rasslin' works there (and is
> the ideal 'bring its own audience' show to extend to Saturday with). I
> don't see them doing it, certainly not the first season.
--- I think they should strike while the iron is hot, when CW still has
a Smackdown audience to carry over into Saturday. The year after next
may be a completely different story.
> As it stands, based on the current programming, they have four solid nights
> worth of programming, with the exact nights those are on varying. They
> have Tuesday with Gilmore Girls and whatever they put on behind it, they
> have Thursday, or whatever night they put Smallville on, they have Friday
> with Smackdown, they have whatever night they put the sitcoms on, and they
> have the reality wheel. They need to position these for maximum coverage
> through the week.
>
> So, starting off, lets all agree that Smackdown is on Friday. One night
> down and five to go.
--- Yeah, ok.
> Gilmore Girls will likely stay on Tuesday. They will either put a new show
> or one of the weaker carry overs after it, because they need the stronger
> carry overs for other nights. If they renew VM, it will go here, if it
> doesn't go here, it won't be renewed.
--- GG is a shoe-in.
> The reality wheel can work at either 8pm or 9pm. They won't move it to 7pm
> or 9pm on Sunday, because that's likely to wreck it. That leaves Monday,
> Wednesday, or Thursday. Whichever night it moves to, it will be paired
> with a new show or with a weaker carryover
--- I'm thinking that if CW wants its presence felt on Sunday,
especially when NBC's football kicks in, it's going to have to make
itself known somehow, that's why I start the ball rolling with ANTM
[alternating with Beauty and the Geek] and follow through on the femme
theme with femme-slanted sitcoms. It carves out an identifiable niche.
Putting in dramas would seem to only have the effect of diluting CW's
presence on a night heavy with dramas, including NBC's football and
CBS's movie night.
> Smallville will anchor a night in the 8pm slot. It could be any of the
> four nights. It will likely be paired with Supernatural, which has doen
> well, but isn't ready to anchor a night yet.
--- Just as you doubt ANTM being on at 7 on Sunday, so too I doubt
Supernatural being on at that time. Seems like it would be too early a
slot for it. The Smallville-Supernatural combo on Thursday seems to be
doing well enough so I don't think CW should jeopardize that night by
fiddling with it.
> The sitcoms will likely be stripped on a single night.
>
> That's five of the six nights, leaving one left. The WB is obviously
> trying to position Everwood to take over 7th's slot. If that happens, the
> rest of the schedule just falls into place, with the only question being,
> do the sitcoms take Thursday and the sf take Sunday, or vice-versa?
--- Guess we'll see in May what'll be where.