Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

The Jimmy Kimmel Kids plan to pay off the national debt

99 views
Skip to first unread message

thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Aug 4, 2019, 12:01:50 PM8/4/19
to
Previously on, "The Plan"
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772

"Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."






Trump, Congress OK budget with taxpayers’ credit card
By Jessica Wehrman Aug 3, 2019
https://www.srpressgazette.com/news/20190803/trump-congress-ok-budget-with-taxpayers-credit-card



WASHINGTON — Here’s a bar tab you wouldn’t ever want: Within 10 years, the federal government will owe foreign and domestic creditors at least $28.5 trillion.

That’s $28.5 trillion, with a “T.” Or $28,500,000,000,000. Under conservative economic projections.

And there’s no sign that anyone in Washington has the will to do anything about it.

“They don’t care about it,” said former Ohio Gov. John Kasich, who as chairman of the House Budget Committee helped shepherd into law in 1997 a bill that balanced the federal budget within one year. “Santa Claus has always been popular.”




Interestingly, the two House members serving Northwest Florida in Congress, both Republicans, cast different votes on the recent budget legislation in that chamber. Rep. Neal Dunn, a Panama City urologist, voted in favor of the budget deal.

In a statement following his vote, Dunn said he “stood with President Trump and voted in favor of the budget deal at his very specific request. We share a desire to rebuild our military




Just as a credit card incurs interest charges when it’s not paid off, so too does the federal government.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, the federal government — aka U.S. taxpayers — will spend $455 billion on interest next year. By 2029, that figure is projected to rise to $921 billion.

Beginning next year, he said, the federal government will spend more on interest than it will on programs affecting children.

By 2025, he said, taxpayers will pay more on interest than they do on national defense.






“Our budget will be spending more on our past than we do on our future,” Peterson said. “That’s a stark reminder of what we’re leaving our children here.”



///



And now ... THE PLAN

https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/showbiz/jimmy-kimmel-china-apology/index.html

thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Aug 23, 2019, 7:49:55 PM8/23/19
to
Even by Donald Trump’s standards his Twitter rant attacking China on Friday was extraordinary. In a series of outbursts Trump “hereby ordered” US companies to stop doing business with China, accused the country of killing 100,000 Americans a year with imported fentanyl and stealing hundred of billions in intellectual property.

The attack marked a new low in Sino-US relations and looks certain to escalate a trade war already worrying investors, manufacturers and economists who are concerned that the dispute between the two economic superpowers could trigger a recession.

Not so long ago Trump called China’s president, Xi Jinping, “a good friend”. Now he is an “enemy”. How did we get here?

On the campaign trail Trump railed against China accusing it of pulling off “one of the greatest thefts in the history of the world” and “raping” the US economy.

Trump repeated the word China so often it spawned a viral video of him saying it over and over again. The attacks were a hit with voters and helped get him elected. He has continued lambasting China – to cheers – at rallies ever since.

His main beef? The trade deficit.

The US imported a record $539.5bn in goods from China in 2018 and sold the Chinese $120.3bn in return. The difference between those two numbers – $419.2bn – is the trade deficit.

That deficit has been growing for years as manufacturing has shifted to low-cost China and, according to Trump, it explains the hollowing out of US manufacturing.

For Trump, and especially for his adviser Peter Navarro, who once described China as “the planet’s most efficient assassin”, trade deficits represent an existential threat to US jobs and national security. China makes up the largest part of the US trade deficit
Here are the reasons for Trump's economic war with China
Dominic Rushe Aug 2019
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/23/trump-china-economic-war-why-reasons

thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Sep 9, 2019, 4:00:52 PM9/9/19
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Previously on, "The Plan"
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772



> "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."


Esper noted what he described as the coming shift from “low-intensity conflict that lasts 18 years,” referring to the war in Afghanistan, to “high-intensity conflicts against competitors such as Russia and China.”



Pentagon 'very carefully' watching China, it's 'No. 1 priority,' Defense Secretary Mark Esper tells Fox News
By Melissa Leon, Jennifer Griffin Published August 22, 2019
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-china-defense-secretary-mark-esper

thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Apr 3, 2020, 11:43:16 AM4/3/20
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
U.S. and China Will Likely Go to War In the Next 30 Years - James Fanell
Premiered Jan 19, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMyoCIAO9YQ


Zooming In with Simone Gao


James Fanell, Former intelligence chief of the U.S. pacific fleet challenges the conventional wisdom that the U.S. military is unsurpassed by any force on this planet. While acknowledging that the Chinese military has strategic vulnerabilities, he warns that the U.S. might go to war with China over Taiwan in the next 30 years not adequately prepared and not confident to win. What needs to be done and is the current administration addressing these challenges? My interview with Fanell at a critical time when America becomes increasingly wary about China’s global ambition.







-----------------

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi6yGuvKv_E

thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Apr 7, 2020, 5:21:27 PM4/7/20
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Previously on, "The Plan"
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772


> "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."








Gordon Chang: U.S. Should Seize China’s $1 Trillion in Treasury Obligations as Coronavirus Compensation
ROBERT KRAYCHIK7 Apr 2020
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/04/07/gordon-chang-u-s-should-seize-chinas-1-trillion-in-treasury-obligations-as-coronavirus-compensation/




America can seize China’s holdings of U.S. Treasury obligations as compensation for the one-party state’s negligence related to the coronavirus pandemic, said Gordon Chang, Daily Beast columnist and author of The Great U.S.-China Tech War, offering his remarks on Monday’s edition of SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight with host Rebecca Mansour and special guest host Ed Martin.

China owns approximately $1.2 trillion in U.S. Treasury holdings.

Chang said, “What the United States can do is just simply seize the treasury obligations that China holds in their own name, they hold a little more than a trillion U.S. dollars in treasuries, probably through nominees they hold some more.”

Chang continued, “But what I recommend is that we not do this alone, and the reason is that China would say that this was a repudiation of debt. They would say that we were bad stewards of the global financial system. They would just tar us and they would actually go after the dollar.”

“What we can do is work with the issuers of other major currencies,” added Chang. “For instance, the Canadian dollar, the pound, the Swiss Franc, the euro, the yen, if we were to do that, and if all these countries were going to confiscate assets, then we have the makings of a real solution.”


thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Apr 9, 2020, 12:43:14 PM4/9/20
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Previously on, "The Plan"
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772


> "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."






AG Barr: ‘The Chinese Are Engaged In A Full-Court Blitzkrieg’ Against The U.S.
By Daily Wire APRIL 8TH, 2020
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ag-barr-the-chinese-are-engaged-in-a-full-court-blitzkrieg-against-the-u-s



Attorney General William Barr told Fox News’ Laura Ingraham on Wednesday night that the Chinese government is engaged in a “full-court blitzkrieg” against the United States.

“This virus originated in China, we still don’t have all the data, we still don’t really know about Patient Zero in China,” Ingraham said. “A lot of that data is being withheld still from the United States, and top medical people are saying that. What about the Justice Department getting involved more, I guess obviously, to the American people in this battle against the ongoing propaganda machine of China in the United States at our universities, in businesses – hey, in the White House Press Room the other day.”

“Yes. The Department is heavily engaged in that, in fact that’s one of our highest priorities in the counter intelligence realm, counter espionage realm, and protection of trade secrets as our activity’s directed to defend against the Chinese,” Barr responded. “The Chinese are engaged in a full-court blitzkrieg of stealing American technology, trying to influence our political system, trying to steal secrets at our research universities and so forth. And we are focused on it. We have something we call the China Initiative. We’ve brought a lot of indictments, but it’s something that we also have to expose by letting the business community understand exactly the nature of the threat.”

“Given what you know today about the panoply of abuses internationally against the United States, who’s the bigger threat to America’s election security – Russia, or China?” Ingraham asked.

“In my opinion it’s China,” Barr responded. “And not just to the election process, but I think across the board there’s simply no comparison. China is a very serious threat to the United States geopolitically, economically, militarily, and a threat to the integrity of our institutions given their ability to influence things.”

thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Apr 17, 2020, 12:05:21 PM4/17/20
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Previously on, "The Plan"
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772
>
> "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."







Alex Jones is leading the neo-neocons in bloodlust against "Chi-comms".

https://twitter.com/ActivistPost/status/1250780565290147843

thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Apr 24, 2020, 1:08:05 AM4/24/20
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> Previously on, "The Plan"
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772



> "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."





Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told "Hannity" Thursday that he knows many Americans are angry at China over the Beijing government's handling of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan and disclosed "I know that the president feels the same way."

"China caused an enormous amount of pain, loss of life and now a huge challenge for the global economy and the American economy as well by not sharing the information they had," Pompeo said.

"Sean, you should know we still don't have full transparency from the Chinese Communist Party," the former GOP congressman from Kansas added.

Host Sean Hannity suggested that the U.S. could punish (sic) China by self-forgiving its debts to Beijing, though he added that "maybe that's impossible."

Pompeo did not directly address the idea, but promised that the Chinese government will "pay a price for what they did"
Pompeo blasts China for causing 'enormous amount of pain' and 'loss of life' with coronavirus coverup
By Charles Creitz 2020-04-23
https://www.foxnews.com/media/pompeo-china-coronavirus-coverup-loss-of-life


thinbl...@gmail.com

unread,
Apr 24, 2020, 5:12:53 PM4/24/20
to
On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 1:08:05 AM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbl...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Previously on, "The Plan"
> > https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772





> > "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."






> Secretary of State Mike Pompeo told "Hannity" Thursday that he knows many Americans are angry at China over the Beijing government's handling of the coronavirus outbreak in Wuhan and disclosed "I know that the president feels the same way."

> Host Sean Hannity suggested that the U.S. could punish (sic) China by self-forgiving its debts to Beijing, though he added that "maybe that's impossible."




> > And now ... THE PLAN



> > https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/showbiz/jimmy-kimmel-china-apology/index.html



> Pompeo blasts China for causing 'enormous amount of pain' and 'loss of life' with coronavirus coverup
> By Charles Creitz 2020-04-23
> https://www.foxnews.com/media/pompeo-china-coronavirus-coverup-loss-of-life




Leading Republicans are demanding that China be made to pay financially for what they allege was a coverup of the lethal coronavirus outbreak that ultimately brought the U.S. economy to a near halt, erasing more than 26 million American jobs and costing the federal government trillions of dollars in emergency spending. Key lawmakers want President Trump to cancel the $1 trillion-plus U.S. debt to China.


Leading Republicans want to send China the bill for coronavirus pandemic’s costs
David J. Lynch April 24, 2020
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/24/republican-coronavirus-china-xi/

thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN

unread,
Jun 6, 2021, 6:54:57 AM6/6/21
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN wrote:


> Previously on, "The Plan"
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772


> "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."










> And now ... THE PLAN

Los Angeles CNN —
Late night TV host Jimmy Kimmel apologized for airing a clip of a child suggesting that “killing everyone in China” could be a solution to America’s debt problem.

> https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/showbiz/jimmy-kimmel-china-apology/index.html



Trump demands 100% tariffs on Chinese goods, debt cancellation, and $10T in reparations for COVID-19
By Caitlin McFall 2021-06-05
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-china-pay-10-trillion-in-reparations-for-covid-19

Donald Trump returned to the GOP political scene Saturday with a speech at the North Carolina Republican Convention, where he called on China to pay "reparations" to the U.S. for coronavirus-related damages.

"All nations should work together to present China a bill for a minimum of $10 trillion to compensate for the damage," Trump said, adding that the figure was lower than it should be. "As a first step, all countries should collectively cancel any debt they owe to China as a down payment on reparations," he said.






TAGS: war, with, china, began, november 2019, with, a, biological, attack, there, was, nothing, wrong, with, the plan

RichA

unread,
Jun 6, 2021, 6:29:57 PM6/6/21
to
Mongoloid liberals don't pay taxes, the state takes care of them.

chromebook test

unread,
Nov 24, 2021, 1:15:42 PM11/24/21
to
On Sunday, August 4, 2019 at 12:01:50 PM UTC-4, thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN wrote:
> Previously on, "The Plan"
> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073802/characters/nm0731772
>
> "Fact is, there was nothing wrong with the plan. The plan was all right. The plan would've worked."





> And now ... THE PLAN


Jimmy Kimmel apologizes for ‘killing everyone in China’ skit

> https://www.cnn.com/2013/10/29/showbiz/jimmy-kimmel-china-apology/index.html







HONG KONG/NEW YORK (Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Jamie Dimon said on Wednesday he regretted his remarks that the Wall Street bank would last longer than China's Communist Party, moving quickly to avoid any longer-term fall out.

Dimon's comments had risked jeopardizing JPMorgan's growth ambitions in China where it won regulatory approval in August to become the first full foreign owner of a securities brokerage in the country. Academics said his quick apology would have been made to ensure no serious damage was done.

"I regret and should not have made that comment. I was trying to emphasize the strength and longevity of our company," Dimon said in a statement issued by the bank.

In a later statement, Dimon said: "I regret my recent comment because it's never right to joke about or denigrate any group of people, whether it's a country, its leadership, or any part of a society and culture. Speaking in that way can take away from constructive and thoughtful dialogue in society, which is needed now more than ever."

Speaking at a Boston College series of CEO interviews on Tuesday, Dimon said: "I made a joke the other day that the Communist Party is celebrating its 100th year - so is JPMorgan. I'd make a bet that we last longer."

"I can't say that in China. They are probably listening anyway," he added.

Beijing's approval for JPMorgan to take full ownership of its securities business had been seen as a milestone in the opening up of China's capital markets after years of gradual moves and pressure from Washington.

Beijing sees the involvement of foreign banks as important for China's domestic financial development, academics say. However, they add, Western companies doing business in China still need to tread carefully.

"Dimon's apology shows the degree of deference foreign businesses have to show to the Chinese government in order to remain in its good graces and maintain access to the country’s markets," said Eswar Prasad, a professor at Cornell University.

Dimon's comments sparked reaction from commentators in China.




JPMorgan's Dimon says he regrets China Communist Party comment
Scott Murdoch and Matt Scuffham November 24, 2021
https://news.yahoo.com/jamie-dimon-walks-back-china-132318241.html

The Horny Goat

unread,
Nov 24, 2021, 4:50:17 PM11/24/21
to
On Wed, 24 Nov 2021 10:15:38 -0800 (PST), chromebook test
<chromiu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>HONG KONG/NEW YORK (Reuters) - JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Jamie Dimon s=
>aid on Wednesday he regretted his remarks that the Wall Street bank would l=
>ast longer than China's Communist Party, moving quickly to avoid any longer=
>-term fall out.

With all due respect, particularly with the prevalence of mergers in
the banking industry what percentage of the major banks pre-date 1949?
Or even 1921 when the Chinese Communist Party was founded?

A >minimum< of half I suspect (I would expect the number to be in the
70-80% range) and that would be true of most major banks in both the
US, UK, Canada and EU.

Yes it was a lame joke. No it is not a 'necktie party' offence.
0 new messages