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David Johnston

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May 16, 2013, 8:13:39 PM5/16/13
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Fugitive seeks out our heroine to ask her to prove his innocense, even
though she should have a police escort. Oh, that old saw. So the real
question is, afterward why the heck is he wandering around without even
being guarded? He escaped custody. That's a crime. He's going to be
charged and serve time for it. That's how it works.

Artis

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May 16, 2013, 8:17:44 PM5/16/13
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But he was wrongly charged and convicted. He shouldn't go back to jail.

David Johnston

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May 16, 2013, 9:24:07 PM5/16/13
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And he would be rightly charged and convicted for his new crimes. It's
not like they'd want to encourage people who think of themselves as
innocent to break out and go after whoever they imagine was responsible.

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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May 17, 2013, 12:55:48 AM5/17/13
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In article <kn40kd$s3t$1...@dont-email.me>,
one would suppose that he would get time served

Hunter

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May 17, 2013, 12:31:09 PM5/17/13
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I have to agree with you on this one. Riley not only escaped but he
attacked a corrections officer discharged a weapon, is responsible for
another convict attacking another corrections officer and shooting
that officer and getting that other inmate shot.

Then he breaks in and attacks a person who as we found out later lied
on the witness stand in his original murder trial. He didn't kill him
but he admitted to hurting him enough to have him treated with some
first aid.

Then he holds Megan at gunpoint in her car. I am sure she didn't press
charges but still.

Then the wrongly convicted Riley holds who he-and Megan in her
arrogant way-thought was the real killer hostage with the gun to the
guy's head, who later turned out ironically totally innocent himself.

Yes he should go to prison again. As much as I feel for him being
wrongly convicted the first time. He should get some time off for the
four years plus of time he unjustly served but he has to serve another
sentence.

If he was like Dr. Richard Kimble in "The Fugitive" where he didn't
hurt anybody in his escape-and indeed helped at least one CO out of
the wreckage of the prison bus-and while being on the
run/investigating his wife's murder-except at the end that is who did
turn out to be the killer of his wife-I could forgive the guy and say
let him go even if escape is against the law. He shouldn't have been
in prison in the first place. He also saved a kid's life to boot. And
he almost got shot in the back by Marshal Gerard (thank God for bullet
proof electronic doors in the court house {IIRC}) so he deserves to be
let go right then and there. Not Riley.

BTW, When Marshal Gerard shot at Dr. Kimble he had by then known that
there was questions about the Dr. Kimble's conviction and knew that
Dr. Kimble was investigating the case. I wonder how he would've felt
if it was discovered that he was innocent? Marshals and Corrections
officers do have the right to shoot in the back an unarmed fleeing
escaping convict but still how would he have felt killing an innocent
man?

------>Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

Horace LaBadie

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May 17, 2013, 12:05:11 PM5/17/13
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In article <519654c4....@news.optonline.net>,
Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:

> If he was like Dr. Richard Kimble in "The Fugitive" where he didn't
> hurt anybody in his escape-and indeed helped at least one CO out of
> the wreckage of the prison bus

For a few seconds there, I thought that you were talking about the real
"The Fugitive."

David Johnston

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May 17, 2013, 1:04:04 PM5/17/13
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On 5/16/2013 10:55 PM, Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
> In article <kn40kd$s3t$1...@dont-email.me>,
> David Johnston <davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
>
>> On 5/16/2013 6:17 PM, Artis wrote:
>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:13:39 PM UTC-5, David Johnston wrote:
>>>> Fugitive seeks out our heroine to ask her to prove his innocence, even
>>>>
>>>> though she should have a police escort. Oh, that old saw. So the real
>>>>
>>>> question is, afterward why the heck is he wandering around without even
>>>>
>>>> being guarded? He escaped custody. That's a crime. He's going to be
>>>>
>>>> charged and serve time for it. That's how it works.
>>>
>>> But he was wrongly charged and convicted. He shouldn't go back to jail.
>>>
>>
>> And he would be rightly charged and convicted for his new crimes. It's
>> not like they'd want to encourage people who think of themselves as
>> innocent to break out and go after whoever they imagine was responsible.
>
> one would suppose that he would get time served
>

He has to go to prison for the new charges before he gets any time served

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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May 17, 2013, 2:56:40 PM5/17/13
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In article <kn5nmm$u37$2...@dont-email.me>,
then he would have to receive some compensation for being unjustly
imprisoned previously

David Johnston

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May 17, 2013, 11:28:38 PM5/17/13
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Well this isn't a case where the police or prosecution did anything
wrong. They did not falsify or suppress evidence. He could sue the
participants in the conspiracy but that's about it.

Hunter

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May 18, 2013, 4:44:25 AM5/18/13
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The TV show could work just as well for the example in contrast
between Riley and Kimble. :-)

Hunter

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May 18, 2013, 8:05:04 AM5/18/13
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Not for all he did and was responsible for. Some time off his new
sentence for the time he was wrongly incarcerated should be subtracted
but not to get off Scot free.

David Johnston

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May 18, 2013, 3:40:47 PM5/18/13
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On 5/18/2013 6:05 AM, Hunter (Hunter) wrote:
> On Thu, 16 May 2013 21:55:48 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
> <atlas-...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <kn40kd$s3t$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> David Johnston <davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/16/2013 6:17 PM, Artis wrote:
>>>> On Thursday, May 16, 2013 7:13:39 PM UTC-5, David Johnston wrote:
>>>>> Fugitive seeks out our heroine to ask her to prove his innocense, even
>>>>>
>>>>> though she should have a police escort. Oh, that old saw. So the real
>>>>>
>>>>> question is, afterward why the heck is he wandering around without even
>>>>>
>>>>> being guarded? He escaped custody. That's a crime. He's going to be
>>>>>
>>>>> charged and serve time for it. That's how it works.
>>>>
>>>> But he was wrongly charged and convicted. He shouldn't go back to jail.
>>>>
>>>
>>> And he would be rightly charged and convicted for his new crimes. It's
>>> not like they'd want to encourage people who think of themselves as
>>> innocent to break out and go after whoever they imagine was responsible.
>>
>> one would suppose that he would get time served
> -----
> Not for all he did and was responsible for. Some time off his new
> sentence for the time he was wrongly incarcerated should be subtracted
> but not to get off Scot free.

Functionally under the law, they'd probably give him the mininimum and
allow concurrent sentences but he'd still be in custody until his new
sentencing and since he'd probably plead out a bit of jail time afterward.

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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May 18, 2013, 8:22:29 PM5/18/13
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In article <kn8l7o$7qj$2...@dont-email.me>,
of course he could just have been out on bail

Adam H. Kerman

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May 19, 2013, 3:08:03 PM5/19/13
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Megan did something wrong: Failed to match the knife wound in the body to
the purported murder weapon. We've seen that done forensically going back
to Quincy.

Adam H. Kerman

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May 19, 2013, 3:08:46 PM5/19/13
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He would have killed an innocent man if Megan hadn't talked him down.

Adam H. Kerman

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May 19, 2013, 3:13:58 PM5/19/13
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I'll agree.

Did anyone notice that this episode had been delayed from earlier in
the season? Based on Megan's interactions with "Junior", I'd say it
should have been aired the week before the family religious nuts/incest
episode.

David Barnett

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May 19, 2013, 6:32:06 PM5/19/13
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In article <kn6s92$tja$1...@dont-email.me>, davidjohnston29
@block.com says...
Which would be small compensation.

--
David Barnett

Hunter

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May 19, 2013, 11:12:37 PM5/19/13
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On Sat, 18 May 2013 17:22:29 -0700, "Malcom \"Mal\" Reynolds"
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For him to escape again? I think he would be remanded into custody.

Malcom "Mal" Reynolds

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May 19, 2013, 10:32:10 PM5/19/13
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In article <51999493...@news.optonline.net>,
Hunter <buffh...@my-deja.com> (Hunter) wrote:

> afterward.
> >
> >of course he could just have been out on bail
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> For him to escape again? I think he would be remanded into custody.

why would he escape again?

Hunter

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May 25, 2013, 2:59:43 PM5/25/13
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It would be what the judge and prosecutor would think. He did start an
escape that got a prison guard shot. They have no way of knowing that
he will stay in the jurisdiction like a good boy as he is prepared for
trial for the escape, the hostage situation, and breaking and entering
to and did attack another person.
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