"Simpsons" renewed for two more seasons; will surpass "Gunsmoke"
David
Fox renews 'Simpsons;' set to surpass 'Gunsmoke' as longest-running
primetime TV series
by James Hibberd
Longest. TV show. Ever.
Fox has ordered two more seasons of "The Simpsons" that will make the
animated hit the longest-running series in primetime TV history.
The 44-episode pickup will bring the show to a whopping 493 episodes.
"Gunsmoke" has held the record as the longest-running series and was
on the air for 20 years (airing on CBS from 1955 to 1975 with 635
episodes). "The Simpsons" and NBC's "Law & Order" have been closing in
on the Western classic, with Fox's comedy tying "Gunsmoke" this year
and "Order" currently airing its 19th season.
With this renewal, "The Simpsons" (which debuted in 1990) will easily
take the lead. And with NBC shedding its 10 p.m. hour and the "L&O"
flagship pulling modest numbers, the chances of the crime drama
outlasting "The Simpsons" seems unlikely.
"The Simpsons" launched in 1990. Twelve years ago, the show surpassed
"The Flintstones" as the longest-running animated series. Outside of
ultra-competitive primetime, other programs have been on the air
considerably longer. NBC's "Meet the Press" has been around since
1947. CBS' soap "Guiding Light" has been airing since 1952 and NBC's
"The Tonight Show" has been in production since 1954.
ib...@san.rr.com
> http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/02/fox-renews-simpsons.html
>
> Fox renews 'Simpsons;' set to surpass 'Gunsmoke' as longest-running
> primetime TV series
> by James Hibberd
>
> Longest. TV show. Ever.
>
> Fox has ordered two more seasons of "The Simpsons" that will make the
> animated hit the longest-running series in primetime TV history.
Sorry, it my book, animated shows don't count.
"Gunsmoke" is still the winner (with L&O coming up fast) AFAIAC. "The
Simpsons" only rate a footnote.
Mr. Hole the Magnificent
Duh....
David
Oh sure. On the one hand you have a show set entirely on a studio
backlot that reused every standard Western plot and probably a few
scripts from earlier seasons. On the other hand you have an animated
show densely packed with jokes, crafted by hundreds of people on two
different continents over several months.
I'd say what "The Simpsons" has done is more impressive than anything
ever accomplished in television, and they've managed to fill out every
one of FOX's orders for 20 years (by comparison, "Family Guy" has yet
to complete a standard 22-episode order).
Obveeus
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Ian wrote:
>>"Gunsmoke" is still the winner (with L&O coming up fast) AFAIAC. "The
>>Simpsons" only rate a footnote.
>
> Oh sure. On the one hand you have a show set entirely on a studio
> backlot that reused every standard Western plot and probably a few
> scripts from earlier seasons. On the other hand you have an animated
> show densely packed with jokes, crafted by hundreds of people on two
> different continents over several months.
>
> I'd say what "The Simpsons" has done is more impressive than anything
> ever accomplished in television, and they've managed to fill out every
> one of FOX's orders for 20 years (by comparison, "Family Guy" has yet
> to complete a standard 22-episode order).
On the plus side for The Simpsons is the fact that the show existed for
several seasons prior to that as clips within the Tracy Ulman show.
On the minus side for The Simpsons is the fact that it will still need
another 5 or 6 years of renewal (beyond the two year renewal it just got)
before its episode count matches that of Gunsmoke.
...and if anything is worthy of only a 'footnote' rating in this discussion
it would be Law&Order.
Mason Barge
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f0udq495sr85cm30r...@4ax.com...
I think there is a valid point, in that Gunsmoke faced the additional
challenge of retaining a live cast. As Law & Order has shown, it's easy to
go wrong. Yes, sure, James Arness and Amanda Blake made it the whole way,
but that's part of the equation.
But no slight intended to The Simpsons -- it has stayed unbelievably fresh,
funny, and high energy. I couldn't believe that they were still rocking it
after 10.
David
I don't want to diminish "Gunsmoke" but I'm wondering, when they're
doing 39 episodes a season and there's little to no money being made
on backend how much worry is there about quality and how often do they
just say "okay, let's do another "High Noon" episode."
Rob Jensen
>On Feb 26, 8:06 am, David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/02/fox-renews-simpsons.html
>>
>> Fox renews 'Simpsons;' set to surpass 'Gunsmoke' as longest-running
>> primetime TV series
>> by James Hibberd
>>
>> Longest. TV show. Ever.
>>
>> Fox has ordered two more seasons of "The Simpsons" that will make the
>> animated hit the longest-running series in primetime TV history.
>
>Sorry, it my book, animated shows don't count.
Your book isn't fit for public consumption.
>"Gunsmoke" is still the winner (with L&O coming up fast) AFAIAC. "The
>Simpsons" only rate a footnote.
Given that The Simpsons' impact on pop culture has been at least as
big as that of Gunsmoke or even bigger -- both in absolute terms and
relative to each show's era of existence -- I think your assessment is
objectively idiotic.
-- Rob
Rob Jensen
>http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/02/fox-renews-simpsons.html
>
>Fox renews 'Simpsons;' set to surpass 'Gunsmoke' as longest-running
>primetime TV series
>by James Hibberd
>
>Longest. TV show. Ever.
>
>Fox has ordered two more seasons of "The Simpsons" that will make the
>animated hit the longest-running series in primetime TV history.
>
>The 44-episode pickup will bring the show to a whopping 493 episodes.
I'm greatly amused that they're currently pretending that the show
won't be renewed either up to or past its 500th episode.
-- Rob
David
> "David" <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
I guess in those days there was no reason for them to leave. An
established TV actor wasn't going to become a movie star.
Jude Cormier
And highly unlikely that any station will buy a package of the entire
series.....this one will prolly be split into stuff like "The Simpsons: The
Early Years" or "Simpons Saga: The Later Years"
Jude Cormier
don't forget "Gunsmoke" existed as a radio series for a few years before the
TV version debuted.
Jude Cormier
actually no.....Amanda Blake left after the 19th season,
alte...@yahoo.com
> I'm greatly amused that they're currently pretending that the show
> won't be renewed either up to or past its 500th episode.
Come on, how awesome would it be if FOX cancelled the show after only
499 episodes? It would be totally fitting. Also, hasn't 60 Minutes
been on the air longer than both Gunsmoke and The Simpsons? There's
no reason to pit all these long-running shows against one another.
Gunsmoke is the longest-running scripted, hour-long prime time show of
all time, The Simpsons is the longest-running scripted, half-hour
animated show of all time. Both incredible accomplishments.
Ian J. Ball
Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
I rate your post a 0 out of 10.
Ian (Make it out of 20!!)
--
"There's no business, like Cho business."
- Patrick Jane, "The Mentalist", 02/11/09
Ian J. Ball
<8ad338f6-09a8-4e45...@p20g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
alte...@yahoo.com wrote:
> On Feb 26, 3:52 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm greatly amused that they're currently pretending that the show
> > won't be renewed either up to or past its 500th episode.
>
> Come on, how awesome would it be if FOX cancelled the show after only
> 499 episodes? It would be totally fitting. Also, hasn't 60 Minutes
> been on the air longer than both Gunsmoke and The Simpsons?
Well, "60 Minutes" is an *unscripted* show.
Ian (Or so they claim. Personally, I'm pretty sure a fair number of
their (real) scripts come straight from the DNC... :p )
Obveeus
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> Well, "60 Minutes" is an *unscripted* show.
>
>
> Ian (Or so they claim. Personally, I'm pretty sure a fair number of
> their (real) scripts come straight from the DNC... :p )
Your response sounds like you have been drinking the RNC Kool-aid. :p
Obveeus
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> Rob Jensen <Shut...@aol.com> wrote:
>> Given that The Simpsons' impact on pop culture has been at least as
>> big as that of Gunsmoke or even bigger -- both in absolute terms and
>> relative to each show's era of existence -- I think your assessment is
>> objectively idiotic.
>
> Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
>
> I rate your post a 0 out of 10.
>
> Ian (Make it out of 20!!)
I thought we told you not to go to WQ's 'school'.
Ian J. Ball
"Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
"From 'G's to WQ's"
Ian (Actually, this series concept *frightens* me!!)
Captain Infinity
Mason Barge wrote:
>But no slight intended to The Simpsons -- it has stayed unbelievably fresh,
>funny, and high energy.
Let me guess...you stopped watching it 5 years ago, right?
**
Captain Infinity
David
>
>"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
Huh, Ian's new screenname doesn't seem to be coming through on my
newsserver. Anyone know what that's about?
Default User
Do you mean that you are not seeing his posts at all?
Brian
--
Day 23 of the "no grouchy usenet posts" project
Ian J. Ball
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>
> Huh, Ian's new screenname doesn't seem to be coming through on my
> newsserver. Anyone know what that's about?
These aren't posted via Google Groups.
I'm trying to stay away from GG until they fix the Screenname issue.
Anim8rFSK
"Mason Barge" <mason...@comcast.net> wrote:
Amanda didn't make it the whole way.
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Anim8rFSK
"Jude Cormier" <jhcormier...@cox.net> wrote:
How about "The Actually Good Klasky Csupo Years" and "The Other Crap"?
Anim8rFSK
> On Feb 26, 3:52 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm greatly amused that they're currently pretending that the show
> > won't be renewed either up to or past its 500th episode.
>
> Come on, how awesome would it be if FOX cancelled the show after only
> 499 episodes?
Nobody this side of Marvel Comics could be *that* stupid.
Obveeus
"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
news:ijball-NO_SPAM-93E...@nntp.aioe.org...
> In article <4o9eq49q0icerh0o8...@4ax.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> >"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Huh, Ian's new screenname doesn't seem to be coming through on my
>> newsserver. Anyone know what that's about?
>
> These aren't posted via Google Groups.
>
> I'm trying to stay away from GG until they fix the Screenname issue.
Just replying so that David can see the response.
If I were you, David, I'd be worried. It seems that Ian has found a way to
plot against you behind your back.
David
I'm not worried. It very likely involves TNBC somehow.
David
wrote:
>David wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:51:16 -0500, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> Huh, Ian's new screenname doesn't seem to be coming through on my
>> newsserver. Anyone know what that's about?
>
>Do you mean that you are not seeing his posts at all?
I'm not seeing posts from this particular screenname. Is it possible
motzarella thinks it's spam because it says spam?
Obveeus
"David" <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I can see his posts through motzarella, though I have a similar problem with
a poster in another group that doesn't show up on motzarella or google...and
yet other people can see his posts.
All in all, you should probably look at it as a blessing, though it will be
harder to keep up with all the Disney and ABC Family shows without Ian's
reports.
Jude Cormier
I stated
>> And highly unlikely that any station will buy a package of the entire
>> series.....this one will prolly be split into stuff like "The
>> Simpsons: The Early Years" or "Simpons Saga: The Later Years"
Fred replied
> How about "The Actually Good Klasky Csupo Years" and "The Other Crap"?
in the words of Rick Hunter :"Works for me"
Jude Cormier
40 lashes with a wet noodle for saying the blasphemous programming block of
shame!
Rob Jensen
wrote:
>In article
><8ad338f6-09a8-4e45...@p20g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> alte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
>> On Feb 26, 3:52 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> > I'm greatly amused that they're currently pretending that the show
>> > won't be renewed either up to or past its 500th episode.
>>
>> Come on, how awesome would it be if FOX cancelled the show after only
>> 499 episodes?
>
>Nobody this side of Marvel Comics could be *that* stupid.
Dude, we're talking about FOX. Of *course* they're *that* stupid.
Still, I don't think that FOX would cancel the show at 493 episodes.
And even if they did, I suspect that Fox Studio would probably
commission the 7 more episodes to round up the number just because,
well, the Simpsons is a gajillion-dollar franchise and thus, there'd
be no real economic downside to commissioning 7 more episodes and
thus, using episode 500 to be able to send the show off with a
humongously-promotable Event.
-- Rob
Patrick McNamara
<alte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Feb 26, 3:52 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
Correction:
> The Simpsons is the longest-running AMERICAN scripted, half-hour
> animated show of all time.
And that doesn't make it good.
If you think this is a good thing, just think of what other shows the money
could be spent on instead.
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lugnut
<writer...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
><alte...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>news:8ad338f6-09a8-4e45...@p20g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 26, 3:52 pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Correction:
>> The Simpsons is the longest-running AMERICAN scripted, half-hour
>> animated show of all time.
>
>And that doesn't make it good.
>
>If you think this is a good thing, just think of what other shows the money
>could be spent on instead.
Probably spent on development of more reality shows.
-lugnut
Mason Barge
"Captain Infinity" <Infi...@captaininfinity.us> wrote in message
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That's pretty much correct.
Joseph Nebus
>On Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:36:47 -0700, Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net>
>wrote:
>>In article
>><8ad338f6-09a8-4e45...@p20g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>> alte...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 26, 3:52pm, Rob Jensen <ShutUp...@aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I'm greatly amused that they're currently pretending that the show
>>> > won't be renewed either up to or past its 500th episode.
>>>
>>> Come on, how awesome would it be if FOX cancelled the show after only
>>> 499 episodes?
>>
>>Nobody this side of Marvel Comics could be *that* stupid.
>Dude, we're talking about FOX. Of *course* they're *that* stupid.
>Still, I don't think that FOX would cancel the show at 493 episodes.
>And even if they did, I suspect that Fox Studio would probably
>commission the 7 more episodes to round up the number just because,
>well, the Simpsons is a gajillion-dollar franchise and thus, there'd
>be no real economic downside to commissioning 7 more episodes and
>thus, using episode 500 to be able to send the show off with a
>humongously-promotable Event.
... Which they would then schedule at a never-before-used
timeslot after whatever Josh Whedon/The X-Files Guy show they've got
four episodes of to not show before cancelling.
--
Joseph Nebus
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Barry Margolin
<6e169dd5-e89a-436c...@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I think there is a valid point, in that Gunsmoke faced the additional
> > challenge of retaining a live cast. As Law & Order has shown, it's easy to
> > go wrong. Yes, sure, James Arness and Amanda Blake made it the whole way,
> > but that's part of the equation.
>
> I guess in those days there was no reason for them to leave. An
> established TV actor wasn't going to become a movie star.
What ever happened to that guy on Rawhide, anyway?
--
Barry Margolin, bar...@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
David
> In article
> <6e169dd5-e89a-436c-b68a-fb51851aa...@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
>
> David <dimla...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > I think there is a valid point, in that Gunsmoke faced the additional
> > > challenge of retaining a live cast. As Law & Order has shown, it's easy to
> > > go wrong. Yes, sure, James Arness and Amanda Blake made it the whole way,
> > > but that's part of the equation.
>
> > I guess in those days there was no reason for them to leave. An
> > established TV actor wasn't going to become a movie star.
>
> What ever happened to that guy on Rawhide, anyway?
He had to go through Italy to get anywhere in Hollywood.
Mason Barge
"Barry Margolin" <bar...@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
news:barmar-C95653....@mara100-84.onlink.net...
> In article
> <6e169dd5-e89a-436c...@z9g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
> David <diml...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> > I think there is a valid point, in that Gunsmoke faced the additional
>> > challenge of retaining a live cast. As Law & Order has shown, it's easy
>> > to
>> > go wrong. Yes, sure, James Arness and Amanda Blake made it the whole
>> > way,
>> > but that's part of the equation.
>>
>> I guess in those days there was no reason for them to leave. An
>> established TV actor wasn't going to become a movie star.
>
> What ever happened to that guy on Rawhide, anyway?
I was gonna' go with "Wanted: Dead or Alive" -- which I actually liked
better as a kid -- but Rowdy Yates will do.