What did you watch? 2013-03-15 (Friday)

[Ubiquitous]

On the Ides of March, I watched:

THE O'REILLY FACTOR
� Report: Grand jury investigating Senator Robert Menendez
� The biggest pinheads of the week
� Impact on democracy when press supports a political party

MOONRAKER:
Well, that wasn't so good! James Bond investigates the theft of several
Space Shuttles by a man who wants to kill everyone on Earth and
repopulate it with the descendants of his beautiful henchmen. Yeah, it
doesn't make a bit of sense to me either.

TMC UNDERGROUND:
"The Awful Dr. Orlof". A mad doctor is killing women in France in order
to resuurect his deceased wife. You know what happens to Doctor Orlof at
the end of the movie? He dies!

What did you watch?

--
"Right now, the president is not solving the budget chaos because he
doesn't want to cut federal spending. That's the truth. And the spinners
are misleading you. They are lying to you. That makes me angry. So you
saw that and will most likely see it again in the future."
-- Bill O'Reilly

[Obveeus]

"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

> What did you watch?


GRIMM: The second half of the spell breaking procedure was a big old
nothing...but then poor Juliette is forgotten about and sent home to suffer
in a pit of her own despair. Meanwhile, everyone else fights to stop a band
of Wesen bank robbers. Nick blew it big time in this episode. What would
have happened if the Wesen Council had not stopped these bank robbers? What
if they had changed for the cameras at the police station as they were
brought in? Nick was still thinking too much like a cop and not enough like
a creature.

CULT: It occurred to me in this episode that 'our hero' might actually be
the one that is getting indoctrinated into the cult. They have him spending
all his time following clues in the show and then kidnapping, beating,
drugging, etc... people the clues lead him to. I wish they had saved all
the pictures off the wall that had Xes through their face to see if those
people are dead or just wandering around sulking because they failed in
their cult initiation, but I don't think they bothered. They did 'save' one
guy, though, even if he wasn't wanting/needing to be saved.

BLUE: Julia Stiles is back on www.youtube.com/wigs as a barely functioning
working girl with a super-genius kid (that often seems not to know stuff
kids his age should know). I like that the channel is taking a more NETFLIX
like approach this time around and releasing 7 episodes at a time rather
than one episode every few days.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,

Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

> MOONRAKER:
> Well, that wasn't so good! James Bond investigates the theft of several
> Space Shuttles by a man who wants to kill everyone on Earth and
> repopulate it with the descendants of his beautiful henchmen. Yeah, it
> doesn't make a bit of sense to me either.

I saw it in the theater with an astronaut. When they stole the ship in
the beginning off the back of the 747, she says "um, the orbiter doesn't
have a fuel supply ..." :)

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

[Ubiquitous]

anim...@cox.net wrote:
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

>> MOONRAKER:
>> Well, that wasn't so good! James Bond investigates the theft of several
>> Space Shuttles by a man who wants to kill everyone on Earth and
>> repopulate it with the descendants of his beautiful henchmen. Yeah, it
>> doesn't make a bit of sense to me either.
>
>I saw it in the theater with an astronaut. When they stole the ship in
>the beginning off the back of the 747, she says "um, the orbiter doesn't
>have a fuel supply ..." :)

I wondered how a flying jet plane could provide a stable platform for take-off.

And how could it be flown like an airplane.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <ki1v9p$c9$1...@dont-email.me>, Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net>
wrote:

> anim...@cox.net wrote:
> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> >> MOONRAKER:
> >> Well, that wasn't so good! James Bond investigates the theft of several
> >> Space Shuttles by a man who wants to kill everyone on Earth and
> >> repopulate it with the descendants of his beautiful henchmen. Yeah, it
> >> doesn't make a bit of sense to me either.
> >
> >I saw it in the theater with an astronaut. When they stole the ship in
> >the beginning off the back of the 747, she says "um, the orbiter doesn't
> >have a fuel supply ..." :)
>
> I wondered how a flying jet plane could provide a stable platform for
> take-off.
>
> And how could it be flown like an airplane.

They did test the Orbiter that way, but it didn't have fuel, it was just
a glider, and did not so much 'fly' as 'plummet'

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

> What did you watch?

After I slept in a *really* long time (recovering from my late lab
day!), and then tracked down the records to an errant retirement fund, I
watched:

soaps - Mostly, pass (not enough happened here to make it work
mentioning) - though I will mention that (an almost unrecognizable) Tony
Todd did show up on Y&R...

Then while I did other stuff, I rewatched "The Woods" (in the
background) - it held up on second viewing, and this time I understood
what the "evil plan" was, and what happened at the end of the movie.

Elsewhere (Chiller) - (Aside: Great title - it needs to be used by a
much better movie!...)
This was OK - it was atmospheric, and the genuine Goshen, Indiana
location shooting helped - but ultimately I was expecting a lot more
(for one thing, it was overlong), and they can/should have done a lot
more with this.
In this flick, a young Anna Kendrick (she's short!!) plays a
goodie-goodie (with a mostly absentee mom), whose best friend is a
slutty bad girl with a horrible mom, played by Tania Raymonde. After
some sketchy online man-trolling, Raymonde's character goes missing, and
only Kendrick's character seems to care enough to find out what happened
to her.
Paul Wesley, playing very much against type here, shows up in this as
a lothario stoner/loser ex-boyfriend of Raymonde's; John Gries (best
remembered from "The Pretender") and Olivia Dawn York (who got her start
on "Ned's Declassified...") also show up prominently in this.
Anyway, this wasn't really horror, nor was it 'true crime'.

Nikita - This was a bit of a letdown after the preceding couple of
episodes, though guest-star Olga Fonda (Tchakova) sure is pretty! (she's
like a Russian Amy Acker!!). But, basically, the gist was that the 'Ari
arc' is over once and for all, and Amanda successfully stirs up conflict
between Alex and Nikita.
This is off next week, and will be back in two weeks...

Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show is
just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full background-noise
for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).

Blue Bloods - Danny's and Marisa Ramirez's case was pretty interesting,
and floated the whole episode. Because the Jamie story (what?! - are
nurses not bound by privacy ethics like doctors?!!) and the Tom Selleck
story (what does this drunk astronaut have to do with *anything*??!!)
sure tried their best to drag this episode down... :(

Recorded for later: The Wizards Return: Alex vs. Alex, and Degrassi
(from the promos, this looked like a 'Fiona' episode...).

--
"Surf-crazed aliens... Of course." - Amber, "Alien Surf Girls",
Episode #1.1, "Wipeout".
Wait a minute... "Of course"?! "*Of course*"?!! Did I miss a step here??!!

[JRStern]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:39:22 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

>Blue Bloods - Danny's and Marisa Ramirez's case was pretty interesting,
>and floated the whole episode. Because the Jamie story (what?! - are
>nurses not bound by privacy ethics like doctors?!!) and the Tom Selleck
>story (what does this drunk astronaut have to do with *anything*??!!)
>sure tried their best to drag this episode down... :(

Three plot lines, Danny's case, Jamie's case, Frank's case, none went
anywhere in particular, that is, any would have been fine - that is,
much better - for a whole hour instead of just throwing them at us.

J.

[icebreaker]

"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
news:ijball-NO_SPAM-312...@news.eternal-september.org...

> In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>

> Nikita - This was a bit of a letdown after the preceding couple of
> episodes, though guest-star Olga Fonda (Tchakova) sure is pretty! (she's
> like a Russian Amy Acker!!). But, basically, the gist was that the 'Ari
> arc' is over once and for all, and Amanda successfully stirs up conflict
> between Alex and Nikita.
> This is off next week, and will be back in two weeks...

I'm at the point where I don't care if it comes back.

> Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show is
> just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full background-noise
> for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).

Good cast, bad show.

> Blue Bloods - Danny's and Marisa Ramirez's case was pretty interesting,
> and floated the whole episode. Because the Jamie story (what?! - are
> nurses not bound by privacy ethics like doctors?!!) and the Tom Selleck
> story (what does this drunk astronaut have to do with *anything*??!!)
> sure tried their best to drag this episode down... :(

This was pretty boring.

I also watched:

Last Man Standing -- Ryan belts a drunk (Richard Kerns) in front of Mike,
Eve, and Boyd at the ballpark and becomes a son in Mike's words instead of a
4th daughter. Naturally, Kristen and Vanessa are less than thrilled and Boyd
seems a bit scared of his Dad. In the B storyline which was better, Mandy is
banned from her cell phone and internet until she raises her grade in
history. On the hunt for her stuff she discovers a ham radio in the basement
and discovers instant voice Twitter. Unfortunately, she entered her history
paper using a typewriter and is still waiting for it to print.

Degrassi -- Fi loses Drew as her roommate and to combat the loneliness and
need for money takes a job slinging juice and uses twitter as a substitute
for a roommate with whom to converse. Unfortunately, her address escapes to
the wild because her GPS attached to her tweets and she gets a surprise when
she returns to her apartment. Mike Dallas the hockey player and Ali are
about to go from friends to romantic duo in his basement when his ex,
Vanessa (the really tiny and very pretty Vanessa Morgan from My Babysitter's
a Vamp), shows and a none-too-pleased Ali departs. We learn Dallas got the
ex preggers when he was 15 and it's his weekend. So that's a possible
roadblock to his romantic plans as Ali has only just escaped her own
pregnancy scare with Dave and isn't too interested in having rugrats around,
or so she tells Mike without knowing his circumstance. Zig isn't happy with
French class 'cause people keep bringing up Cam and he feels responsible for
his death. The French teacher, who the boys think is hot (I don't see it),
talks him down, but are we going to have another one of those student hot
for teacher arcs? Hope not.

[Ubiquitous]

That was my point. :-)

[David Barnett]

In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
web...@polaris.net says...
>
> What did you watch?

After watching MIDSOMER MURDERS: The Sicilian Defence I
watched:

NCIS: LA: Free Ride
"Callen, Sam, Kensi and Deeks spend Christmas aboard an
aircraft carrier investigating the death of a fellow NCIS
special agent.
My grade is B

PERSON OF INTEREST: All In
Posts exist elsewhere.
Unfortunately, no Paige Turcor nor Amy Acker.

ELEMENTARY: Dￜjￜ Vu All Over Again
Again posts exist elsewhere.
I had to re-watch parts the next morning due to nodding.

This morning, Sun Mar 17, I have also watched: :

THE PARADISE: 1-07
A rather pleasant episode IMO.
Only one more to go to & I am interested in how it ends,
tho I don't know whether there is to be a second season.

--
David Barnett

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2baf98fa6...@news.bigpond.com>,

David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> web...@polaris.net says...
> >
> > What did you watch?
>
> After watching MIDSOMER MURDERS: The Sicilian Defence I
> watched:
>
> NCIS: LA: Free Ride
> "Callen, Sam, Kensi and Deeks spend Christmas aboard an
> aircraft carrier investigating the death of a fellow NCIS
> special agent.
> My grade is B
>
> PERSON OF INTEREST: All In
> Posts exist elsewhere.
> Unfortunately, no Paige Turcor nor Amy Acker.
>

> ELEMENTARY: D�j� Vu All Over Again

> Again posts exist elsewhere.
> I had to re-watch parts the next morning due to nodding.
>
> This morning, Sun Mar 17, I have also watched: :
>
> THE PARADISE: 1-07
> A rather pleasant episode IMO.
> Only one more to go to & I am interested in how it ends,
> tho I don't know whether there is to be a second season.

Happy St. Patrick's Day!

[David Johnston]

GRIMM ****

Apparently Our Hero is a lot less corrupt than Renard. But was there
ever any doubt? Also the show's Lois Lane trips balls all day.
Hallucinogens. They're the cure to what ails ya.

GAME OF THRONES ****

This show has some profoundly brilliant casting. Tyrion in particular.
I have changed my mind though about the categories the characters fit
into. In addition to evil and stupid, they also have crazy.

AVENGERS, EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES ****

The Red Hulk tries to take over the Avengers as their newest member.
Poor Thunderbolt Ross. You know, he actually had some very admirable
qualities back in the day. The green Hulk is amazingly forgiving about
the Avengers letting him get locked up in isolation for what must have
been at least a month. But then somehow he knows this Cap isn't the
Skrull who convinced him not to resist. I have no idea how.

AVENGERS, EARTH'S MIGHTIEST HEROES ***

Cap demonstrates that a domino mask is not an impenetrable disguise by
recognising his former sidekick who has been working for the Red Skull
since World War II (Which if you'll recall, had nothing to do with
anyone named "Adolph Hitler"). Of course having lost his history as a
brainwashed _Russian_ agent in the Cold War, his "Winter Soldier" alias
no longer seems quite apt.

CLONE WARS ***

Anakin has the brilliant idea to teach disgruntled dissidents in
Separatist territory irregular warfare. And that most certainly will
never bite his side in the ass later.

THE SOUP ***

OK, so what is the joke about him not being allowed to talk about the
Batchelor?

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 3/16/2013 1:41 PM, icebreaker wrote:
> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ijball-NO_SPAM-312...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>>
>>> What did you watch?
>>
>> Nikita - This was a bit of a letdown after the preceding couple of
>> episodes, though guest-star Olga Fonda (Tchakova) sure is pretty! (she's
>> like a Russian Amy Acker!!). But, basically, the gist was that the 'Ari
>> arc' is over once and for all, and Amanda successfully stirs up conflict
>> between Alex and Nikita.
>> This is off next week, and will be back in two weeks...
>
> I'm at the point where I don't care if it comes back.

The episode wasn't *that* bad.

>
>> Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show is
>> just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full background-noise
>> for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).
>
> Good cast, bad show.
>

I was noticing the only thing that keeps Cult from seeming *completely*
farfetched is the show within a show is even more farfetched.


>
> I also watched:

>

>
> Degrassi -- Fi loses Drew as her roommate and to combat the loneliness
> and need for money takes a job slinging juice and uses twitter as a
> substitute for a roommate with whom to converse. Unfortunately, her
> address escapes to the wild because her GPS attached to her tweets and
> she gets a surprise when she returns to her apartment.

I read a few years ago this really does happen to people who post their
real time comings and goings to social media.

Mike Dallas the
> hockey player and Ali are about to go from friends to romantic duo in
> his basement when his ex, Vanessa (the really tiny and very pretty
> Vanessa Morgan from My Babysitter's a Vamp),

I didn't recognize her. I had no idea what was happening with this plot
line. It seemed to come out of nowhere.

shows and a
> none-too-pleased Ali departs. We learn Dallas got the ex preggers when
> he was 15 and it's his weekend. So that's a possible roadblock to his
> romantic plans as Ali has only just escaped her own pregnancy scare with
> Dave and isn't too interested in having rugrats around, or so she tells
> Mike without knowing his circumstance. Zig isn't happy with French class
> 'cause people keep bringing up Cam and he feels responsible for his
> death. The French teacher, who the boys think is hot (I don't see it),
> talks him down, but are we going to have another one of those student
> hot for teacher arcs? Hope not.

I didn't really see it going there but you can't expect them to not
recycle the same storylines over and over. ;-)

[Tony Calguire]

David Johnston <davidjo...@block.com> wrote in news:ki3g3l$4mc$1@dont-
email.me:

>
> THE SOUP ***
>
> OK, so what is the joke about him not being allowed to talk about the
> Batchelor?
>

I think they're implying that The Bachelor has become so ridiculous that
it's not even worth making fun of anymore.

[Hunter]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:39:54 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:

>
>"Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>
>GRIMM: The second half of the spell breaking procedure was a big old
>nothing...but then poor Juliette is forgotten about and sent home to suffer
>in a pit of her own despair.

----
I believe it represents the memory gap she has and I think her memory
is coming back bit by bit.

It is funny how real life can mirror fiction sometimes. Just a week
ago a sink hole opened up right inside of a house so neatly from the
outside the house looked perfectly normal, killing some poor bastard
asleep in his bed (the "Grimm" episode was obviously filmed before the
tragedy).

>
> Meanwhile, everyone else fights to stop a band
>of Wesen bank robbers. Nick blew it big time in this episode. What would
>have happened if the Wesen Council had not stopped these bank robbers? What
>if they had changed for the cameras at the police station as they were
>brought in? Nick was still thinking too much like a cop and not enough like
>a creature.

----
He still looks at himself as a cop first but you are right it would be
pretty hard to say it was special effects with all the news cameras
and on the spot eyewitnessess right there.

>
>CULT: It occurred to me in this episode that 'our hero' might actually be
>the one that is getting indoctrinated into the cult. They have him spending
>all his time following clues in the show and then kidnapping, beating,
>drugging, etc... people the clues lead him to. I wish they had saved all
>the pictures off the wall that had Xes through their face to see if those
>people are dead or just wandering around sulking because they failed in
>their cult initiation, but I don't think they bothered. They did 'save' one
>guy, though, even if he wasn't wanting/needing to be saved.

----
He was, of course brain washed.

------>Hunter

"No man in the wrong can stand up against
a fellow that's in the right and keeps on acomin'."

-----William J. McDonald
Captain, Texas Rangers from 1891 to 1907

[Hunter]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 09:39:22 -0700, "Ian J. Ball"
<ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

>In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
>> What did you watch?
>
>After I slept in a *really* long time (recovering from my late lab
>day!), and then tracked down the records to an errant retirement fund, I
>watched:

(snip)

>Nikita - This was a bit of a letdown after the preceding couple of
>episodes, though guest-star Olga Fonda (Tchakova) sure is pretty! (she's
>like a Russian Amy Acker!!).

----
She still could be alive since we never actually saw her die.

>
>But, basically, the gist was that the 'Ari
>arc' is over once and for all, and Amanda successfully stirs up conflict
>between Alex and Nikita.
> This is off next week, and will be back in two weeks...

-----
As I said the girl that Alex bonded to could still well be alive and
the conflict between Nikita and her partly uneccessary although the
main underlying "We do everything Nikita wants" issue will still be
there. Ryan is getting a bit darker willing to use a kill chip. If
this show survives another two seasons I think we see Ryan become
another Percy if he isn't careful.

It was a good episode. One thing about this season of Nikita you don't
have so many intertwining story lines like in the first three seasons.

>
>Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show is
>just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full background-noise
>for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).
>
>Blue Bloods - Danny's and Marisa Ramirez's case was pretty interesting,
>and floated the whole episode. Because the Jamie story (what?! - are
>nurses not bound by privacy ethics like doctors?!!)

-----
It probably concerned a potential crime possible child abuse and such
with the blood on him. Medical care givers have to report possible
abuse to the police. She just happens to have a cop brother in law.
One has to find out what is the confidentialty laws concerning
children.

>
> and the Tom Selleck
>story (what does this drunk astronaut have to do with *anything*??!!)
>sure tried their best to drag this episode down... :(

-----
The astronaut story was just a human interest one for Frank, no
crisis, no emergecy or ordinary crime, just an old friend that went
off the rails because he felt useless with Frank putting him back on
the straight and narrow.
(snip)

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <ki2lba$888$1...@dont-email.me>,

"icebreaker" <icebr...@anywherebuthere.com> wrote:

> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
> news:ijball-NO_SPAM-312...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> >
> >> What did you watch?
> >
> > Nikita - This was a bit of a letdown after the preceding couple of
> > episodes, though guest-star Olga Fonda (Tchakova) sure is pretty! (she's
> > like a Russian Amy Acker!!). But, basically, the gist was that the 'Ari
> > arc' is over once and for all, and Amanda successfully stirs up conflict
> > between Alex and Nikita.
> > This is off next week, and will be back in two weeks...
>
> I'm at the point where I don't care if it comes back.

It's not a strong enough show these days where I'd feel good about a
fourth season.

I also think I'd rather that they just wrap up the "good" Section arc,
and call it quits at the end of season #3...

> > Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show is
> > just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full background-noise
> > for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).
>
> Good cast, bad show.

Agreed. It's criminal that Robert Knepper and Alona Tal (not to mention
Stacey Farber) are being wasted like this... :/

[icebreaker]

"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message

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> In article <ki2lba$888$1...@dont-email.me>,
> "icebreaker" <icebr...@anywherebuthere.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:ijball-NO_SPAM-312...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> > Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> What did you watch?
>> >
>> > Nikita - This was a bit of a letdown after the preceding couple of
>> > episodes, though guest-star Olga Fonda (Tchakova) sure is pretty!
>> > (she's
>> > like a Russian Amy Acker!!). But, basically, the gist was that the 'Ari
>> > arc' is over once and for all, and Amanda successfully stirs up
>> > conflict
>> > between Alex and Nikita.
>> > This is off next week, and will be back in two weeks...
>>
>> I'm at the point where I don't care if it comes back.
>
> It's not a strong enough show these days where I'd feel good about a
> fourth season.
>
> I also think I'd rather that they just wrap up the "good" Section arc,
> and call it quits at the end of season #3...

Yes. If the good guys lose hands and people and Amanda gets off scot-free
and wins when she loses, it becomes so boring. Take off one of her legs or
something. Make her pay a price sometime. She has unlimited resources and is
the invincible super-criminal for this show. I would have killed her off
last season and found a different big baddie.

>
>> > Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show
>> > is
>> > just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full
>> > background-noise
>> > for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).
>>
>> Good cast, bad show.
>
> Agreed. It's criminal that Robert Knepper and Alona Tal (not to mention
> Stacey Farber) are being wasted like this... :/

Did you see that large hideous tat Farber had over her left shoulder and
arm? I hope that was a costume tat to go along with the red hair for her
character and not a real one.

[Ian J. Ball]

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wrote:
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> > In article <ki2lba$88...@dont-email.me>,
> > "icebreaker" <icebrea...@anywherebuthere.com> wrote:
>
> >> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-NO_S...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
> >>news:ijball-NO_SPAM-312...@news.eternal-september.org...
>

> >> > Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show
> >> > is
> >> > just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full
> >> > background-noise
> >> > for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"...  :/  ).
>
> >> Good cast, bad show.
>
> > Agreed. It's criminal that Robert Knepper and Alona Tal (not to mention
> > Stacey Farber) are being wasted like this...  :/
>
> Did you see that large hideous tat Farber had over her left shoulder and
> arm? I hope that was a costume tat to go along with the red hair for her
> character and not a real one.

I did not. I may have to do a net search now to see if anyone reports
it being real...

[Ian J. Ball]

Doing a quick search on this, it looks like it's part of the role -
E.J. is supposed to be "punked out" and "tatted up".

So I'm thinking Farber doesn't really have tattoos.

[Mason Barge]

On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:18:40 -0600, David Johnston
<davidjo...@block.com> wrote:


>GAME OF THRONES ****
>
>This show has some profoundly brilliant casting. Tyrion in particular.
> I have changed my mind though about the categories the characters fit
>into. In addition to evil and stupid, they also have crazy.

You also have heroic, honorable and supernatural-visionary.

[David Johnston]

I already covered stupid.


and supernatural-visionary.
>

Don't think I've gotten to those.

[KoshN]

re. 3/15 Grimm, did nobody happen to notice that Nick, Hank, the three robber wesen and the homeless guy appear to be tracking through (presumably) low level radioactive waste. Do none of these characters know what the radiation symbol means, or the problem of spreading contamination (e.g. into the police station)? Any rad techs watching this ep.?

The green color of the spilled goo on the floor reminded of "Modern Problems."

KoshN

[Obveeus]

"Hunter (Hunter)" <buffh...@my-deja.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:39:54 -0400, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>>GRIMM: The second half of the spell breaking procedure was a big old
>>nothing...but then poor Juliette is forgotten about and sent home to
>>suffer
>>in a pit of her own despair.
> ----
> I believe it represents the memory gap she has and I think her memory
> is coming back bit by bit.
>
> It is funny how real life can mirror fiction sometimes. Just a week
> ago a sink hole opened up right inside of a house so neatly from the
> outside the house looked perfectly normal, killing some poor bastard
> asleep in his bed (the "Grimm" episode was obviously filmed before the
> tragedy).

That did make for a fun coincidence. The difference being that the hole
under his house was real while her problem seems to be in her head.

>>CULT: It occurred to me in this episode that 'our hero' might actually be
>>the one that is getting indoctrinated into the cult. They have him
>>spending
>>all his time following clues in the show and then kidnapping, beating,
>>drugging, etc... people the clues lead him to. I wish they had saved all
>>the pictures off the wall that had Xes through their face to see if those
>>people are dead or just wandering around sulking because they failed in
>>their cult initiation, but I don't think they bothered. They did 'save'
>>one
>>guy, though, even if he wasn't wanting/needing to be saved.
> ----
> He was, of course brain washed.

Only in that he brainwashed himself. As near as we can tell, all of his
'brainwashing' was in his level of obsession with trying to solve the stupid
clues hinted at within a TV show. Again, some of the people on this
newsgroup are getting 'brainwashed' by this show as much as this guy was
'brainwashed'. He wasn't being held against his will and no one as forcing
him to try and solve the puzzle. He simply wanted to do it.

[Obveeus]

"KoshN" <macthe...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>re. 3/15 Grimm, did nobody happen to notice that Nick,
>Hank, the three robber wesen and the homeless guy appear
>to be tracking through (presumably) low level radioactive
>waste. Do none of these characters know what the radiation
>symbol means, or the problem of spreading contamination
>(e.g. into the police station)? Any rad techs watching this ep.?

It probably would have been better if the symbol was just for 'poisonous
material' rather than nuclear waste, but I'm not sure the cops noticed it in
any case (when they initially went in there in the dark). I'm guessing that
the stuff leaking from the oil drums is causing the Wesen to behave in a way
that they normally would not.

[Obveeus]

"Arthur Lipscomb" <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

> I was noticing the only thing that keeps Cult from seeming *completely*
> farfetched is the show within a show is even more farfetched.

I think that is intentional. Make the TV show within the TV show look like
bad acting and silly plots so that the show we are watching seems reasonable
by comparison. That strategy seems to play out most every time there are
'acting scenes' within a TV show.

[Obveeus]

"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote:

> "icebreaker" <icebr...@anywherebuthere.com> wrote:
>> > Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show
>> > is
>> > just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full
>> > background-noise
>> > for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).
>>
>> Good cast, bad show.
>
> Agreed. It's criminal that Robert Knepper and Alona Tal (not to mention
> Stacey Farber) are being wasted like this... :/

The biggest weakness for CULT is the lack of acting ability from the cast.

[Obveeus]

"David Johnston" <davidjo...@block.com> wrote in message
news:ki3g3l$4mc$1...@dont-email.me...

> GRIMM ****
>
> Apparently Our Hero is a lot less corrupt than Renard.

I'm not sure why you think that. Nick has killed Wesen on many occasions,
choosing to do his GRIMM job over his cop job. It was rather illogical for
him to have chosen otherwise on this occasion given that the Wesen openly
exhibited a desire to change in front of humans and to change the world
order.

[David Johnston]

On 3/17/2013 1:56 PM, Obveeus wrote:
> "David Johnston" <davidjo...@block.com> wrote in message
> news:ki3g3l$4mc$1...@dont-email.me...
>> GRIMM ****
>>
>> Apparently Our Hero is a lot less corrupt than Renard.
>
> I'm not sure why you think that.

Because he almost instantly recovered from the potion.

[Obveeus]

Almost instantly? How were you able to determine the amount of time that
passed between last episode when he flopped on the floor and this episode
when he finally woke up (after the point at which one of the characters had
grown tired of waiting and decided that an ambulance should be called)? For
that matter, how were you able to determine how long Renard was out?

[Mason Barge]

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:11:15 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
wrote:

>On 3/17/2013 12:26 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:18:40 -0600, David Johnston
>> <davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> GAME OF THRONES ****
>>>
>>> This show has some profoundly brilliant casting. Tyrion in particular.
>>> I have changed my mind though about the categories the characters fit
>>> into. In addition to evil and stupid, they also have crazy.
>>
>> You also have heroic, honorable
>
>I already covered stupid.

Wow you're really cynical.

>
>and supernatural-visionary.
>>
>
>Don't think I've gotten to those.

How about the dragon lady? Or the kids with the direwolves?

[Arthur Lipscomb]

I didn't really consider any of that to be supernatural. Sure
fantastic, but nothing that couldn't be explained away. It wasn't until
I was listening to the first season commentary tracks where they were
explicitly pointing out supernatural events that I had missed on first
viewing that it became crystal clear to me this is a supernatural world.
Then of course season 2 quickly erased *any* doubt that there's full
on magic involved.

[David Barnett]

In article <anim8rfsk-15AD89.17452016032013
@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...

>
> In article <MPG.2baf98fa6...@news.bigpond.com>,
> David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
> > In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > web...@polaris.net says...
> > >
> > > What did you watch?
> >
> > After watching MIDSOMER MURDERS: The Sicilian Defence I
> > watched:
> >
> > NCIS: LA: Free Ride
> > "Callen, Sam, Kensi and Deeks spend Christmas aboard an
> > aircraft carrier investigating the death of a fellow NCIS
> > special agent.
> > My grade is B
> >
> > PERSON OF INTEREST: All In
> > Posts exist elsewhere.
> > Unfortunately, no Paige Turcor nor Amy Acker.
> >

> > ELEMENTARY: Dￜjￜ Vu All Over Again

> > Again posts exist elsewhere.
> > I had to re-watch parts the next morning due to nodding.
> >
> > This morning, Sun Mar 17, I have also watched: :
> >
> > THE PARADISE: 1-07
> > A rather pleasant episode IMO.
> > Only one more to go to & I am interested in how it ends,
> > tho I don't know whether there is to be a second season.
>
> Happy St. Patrick's Day!

And a Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too as well as all
the good posters here.

I didn't realize it was St. Patrick's Day until later at
the club my daughter ordered the St. Patrick's Day
(grilled lamb) whilst I had my usual Stonegrill King
Prawns.
We usually have lunch every Sunday, & sometimes others of
her family.

--
David Barnett

[David Johnston]

On 3/17/2013 2:18 PM, Obveeus wrote:
> "David Johnston" <Da...@block.net> wrote:
>> On 3/17/2013 1:56 PM, Obveeus wrote:
>>> "David Johnston" <davidjo...@block.com> wrote in message
>>> news:ki3g3l$4mc$1...@dont-email.me...
>>>> GRIMM ****
>>>>
>>>> Apparently Our Hero is a lot less corrupt than Renard.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure why you think that.
>>
>> Because he almost instantly recovered from the potion.
>
> Almost instantly? How were you able to determine the amount of time that
> passed between last episode when he flopped on the floor and this episode
> when he finally woke up (after the point at which one of the characters had
> grown tired of waiting and decided that an ambulance should be called)?

Given his rather drastic symptoms I figured that she'd immediately
propose that an ambulance be called. It's what I would do if I saw
someone suddenly collapse and turn the kind of colour that you can only
get from being poisoned. So I don't think any significant amount of
time was skipped over.

For
> that matter, how were you able to determine how long Renard was out?
>
>

I can't remember what gave me the impression but I though he was out for
at least an hour.

[David Johnston]

On 3/17/2013 4:16 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
> On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:11:15 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
> wrote:
>
>> On 3/17/2013 12:26 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:18:40 -0600, David Johnston
>>> <davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> GAME OF THRONES ****
>>>>
>>>> This show has some profoundly brilliant casting. Tyrion in particular.
>>>> I have changed my mind though about the categories the characters fit
>>>> into. In addition to evil and stupid, they also have crazy.
>>>
>>> You also have heroic, honorable
>>
>> I already covered stupid.
>
> Wow you're really cynical.

George Martin is really cynical

>
>>
>> and supernatural-visionary.
>>>
>>
>> Don't think I've gotten to those.
>
> How about the dragon lady? Or the kids with the direwolves?
>

I don't think the syndicated run has gotten to any "dragon lady" yet.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2bb0f320...@news.bigpond.com>,

David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> In article <anim8rfsk-15AD89.17452016032013
> @news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.2baf98fa6...@news.bigpond.com>,
> > David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > > web...@polaris.net says...
> > > >
> > > > What did you watch?
> > >
> > > After watching MIDSOMER MURDERS: The Sicilian Defence I
> > > watched:
> > >
> > > NCIS: LA: Free Ride
> > > "Callen, Sam, Kensi and Deeks spend Christmas aboard an
> > > aircraft carrier investigating the death of a fellow NCIS
> > > special agent.
> > > My grade is B
> > >
> > > PERSON OF INTEREST: All In
> > > Posts exist elsewhere.
> > > Unfortunately, no Paige Turcor nor Amy Acker.
> > >

> > > ELEMENTARY: D�j� Vu All Over Again

> > > Again posts exist elsewhere.
> > > I had to re-watch parts the next morning due to nodding.
> > >
> > > This morning, Sun Mar 17, I have also watched: :
> > >
> > > THE PARADISE: 1-07
> > > A rather pleasant episode IMO.
> > > Only one more to go to & I am interested in how it ends,
> > > tho I don't know whether there is to be a second season.
> >
> > Happy St. Patrick's Day!
>
> And a Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too as well as all
> the good posters here.
>
> I didn't realize it was St. Patrick's Day until later at
> the club my daughter ordered the St. Patrick's Day
> (grilled lamb) whilst I had my usual Stonegrill King
> Prawns.
> We usually have lunch every Sunday, & sometimes others of
> her family.

I enjoy the stories of you lunching at the club. It just sounds so ...
civilized. :)

[David Barnett]

In article <anim8rfsk-8EFF6E.21574117032013

@news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
>
> In article <MPG.2bb0f320...@news.bigpond.com>,
> David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
>
> > In article <anim8rfsk-15AD89.17452016032013
> > @news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
> > >
> > > In article <MPG.2baf98fa6...@news.bigpond.com>,
> > > David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > > > web...@polaris.net says...
> > > > >
> > > > > What did you watch?
> > > >
> > > > After watching MIDSOMER MURDERS: The Sicilian Defence I
> > > > watched:
> > > >
> > > > NCIS: LA: Free Ride
> > > > "Callen, Sam, Kensi and Deeks spend Christmas aboard an
> > > > aircraft carrier investigating the death of a fellow NCIS
> > > > special agent.
> > > > My grade is B
> > > >
> > > > PERSON OF INTEREST: All In
> > > > Posts exist elsewhere.
> > > > Unfortunately, no Paige Turcor nor Amy Acker.
> > > >

> > > > ELEMENTARY: Dￜjￜ Vu All Over Again

> > > > Again posts exist elsewhere.
> > > > I had to re-watch parts the next morning due to nodding.
> > > >
> > > > This morning, Sun Mar 17, I have also watched: :
> > > >
> > > > THE PARADISE: 1-07
> > > > A rather pleasant episode IMO.
> > > > Only one more to go to & I am interested in how it ends,
> > > > tho I don't know whether there is to be a second season.
> > >
> > > Happy St. Patrick's Day!
> >
> > And a Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too as well as all
> > the good posters here.
> >
> > I didn't realize it was St. Patrick's Day until later at
> > the club my daughter ordered the St. Patrick's Day
> > (grilled lamb) whilst I had my usual Stonegrill King
> > Prawns.
> > We usually have lunch every Sunday, & sometimes others of
> > her family.
>
> I enjoy the stories of you lunching at the club. It just sounds so ...
> civilized. :)

Many thanks, anim.
After posting I thought the stories of my lunches would be
boring.
I also have dinner almost every Wednesday night at my
daughter's place.
I really look forward to Sundays & Wednesdays.

--
David Barnett

[Ian J. Ball]

In article <ki56qt$a35$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

Except it doesn't work in "Cult" - I'd rather be watching the
show-within-a-show here, rather than the show itself.

[Obveeus]

"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
news:ijball-NO_SPAM-2A0...@news.eternal-september.org...

> In article <ki56qt$a35$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Arthur Lipscomb" <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>>
>> > I was noticing the only thing that keeps Cult from seeming *completely*
>> > farfetched is the show within a show is even more farfetched.
>>
>> I think that is intentional. Make the TV show within the TV show look
>> like
>> bad acting and silly plots so that the show we are watching seems
>> reasonable
>> by comparison. That strategy seems to play out most every time there are
>> 'acting scenes' within a TV show.
>
> Except it doesn't work in "Cult" - I'd rather be watching the
> show-within-a-show here, rather than the show itself.

It comes as no surprise that you would gravitate towards the part of the
show that is intentionally stupid and badly acted.

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2bb15deea...@news.bigpond.com>,

David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

> In article <anim8rfsk-8EFF6E.21574117032013
> @news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.2bb0f320...@news.bigpond.com>,
> > David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <anim8rfsk-15AD89.17452016032013
> > > @news.easynews.com>, anim...@cox.net says...
> > > >
> > > > In article <MPG.2baf98fa6...@news.bigpond.com>,
> > > > David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> > > > > web...@polaris.net says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What did you watch?
> > > > >
> > > > > After watching MIDSOMER MURDERS: The Sicilian Defence I
> > > > > watched:
> > > > >
> > > > > NCIS: LA: Free Ride
> > > > > "Callen, Sam, Kensi and Deeks spend Christmas aboard an
> > > > > aircraft carrier investigating the death of a fellow NCIS
> > > > > special agent.
> > > > > My grade is B
> > > > >
> > > > > PERSON OF INTEREST: All In
> > > > > Posts exist elsewhere.
> > > > > Unfortunately, no Paige Turcor nor Amy Acker.
> > > > >

> > > > > ELEMENTARY: D�j� Vu All Over Again

> > > > > Again posts exist elsewhere.
> > > > > I had to re-watch parts the next morning due to nodding.
> > > > >
> > > > > This morning, Sun Mar 17, I have also watched: :
> > > > >
> > > > > THE PARADISE: 1-07
> > > > > A rather pleasant episode IMO.
> > > > > Only one more to go to & I am interested in how it ends,
> > > > > tho I don't know whether there is to be a second season.
> > > >
> > > > Happy St. Patrick's Day!
> > >
> > > And a Happy St. Patrick's Day to you too as well as all
> > > the good posters here.
> > >
> > > I didn't realize it was St. Patrick's Day until later at
> > > the club my daughter ordered the St. Patrick's Day
> > > (grilled lamb) whilst I had my usual Stonegrill King
> > > Prawns.
> > > We usually have lunch every Sunday, & sometimes others of
> > > her family.
> >
> > I enjoy the stories of you lunching at the club. It just sounds so ...
> > civilized. :)
>
> Many thanks, anim.
> After posting I thought the stories of my lunches would be
> boring.

Nope, not at all

> I also have dinner almost every Wednesday night at my
> daughter's place.
> I really look forward to Sundays & Wednesdays.

Good! :)

[Ian J. Ball]

On Mar 18, 7:32 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-NO_S...@mac.invalid> wrote in messagenews:ijball-NO_SPAM-2A0...@news.eternal-september.org...
> > In article <ki56qt$a3...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com>

> > wrote:
> >> "Arthur Lipscomb" <art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:
>
> >> > I was noticing the only thing that keeps Cult from seeming *completely*
> >> > farfetched is the show within a show is even more farfetched.
>
> >> I think that is intentional.  Make the TV show within the TV show look
> >> like
> >> bad acting and silly plots so that the show we are watching seems
> >> reasonable
> >> by comparison.  That strategy seems to play out most every time there are
> >> 'acting scenes' within a TV show.
>
> > Except it doesn't work in "Cult" - I'd rather be watching the
> > show-within-a-show here, rather than the show itself.
>
> It comes as no surprise that you would gravitate towards the part of the
> show that is intentionally stupid and badly acted.

It comes as no surprise that you'd turn your nose up at the only part
of this show that is actually *entertaining* and interesting.

[Mason Barge]

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:54:29 -0600, David Johnston

<davidjo...@block.com> wrote:

>On 3/17/2013 4:16 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:11:15 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/17/2013 12:26 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:18:40 -0600, David Johnston
>>>> <davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> GAME OF THRONES ****
>>>>>
>>>>> This show has some profoundly brilliant casting. Tyrion in particular.
>>>>> I have changed my mind though about the categories the characters fit
>>>>> into. In addition to evil and stupid, they also have crazy.
>>>>
>>>> You also have heroic, honorable
>>>
>>> I already covered stupid.
>>
>> Wow you're really cynical.
>
>George Martin is really cynical
>
>>
>>>
>>> and supernatural-visionary.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't think I've gotten to those.
>>
>> How about the dragon lady? Or the kids with the direwolves?
>>
>
>I don't think the syndicated run has gotten to any "dragon lady" yet.

Ah, well, I hope that didn't constitute a spoiler. I don't think it
did. I read the series (all five books) and need to be careful,
especially with people who aren't current with the t.v. show.

[Mason Barge]

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 15:37:42 -0700, Arthur Lipscomb
<art...@alum.calberkeley.org> wrote:

>On 3/17/2013 3:16 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
>> On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 13:11:15 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/17/2013 12:26 PM, Mason Barge wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 16 Mar 2013 22:18:40 -0600, David Johnston
>>>> <davidjo...@block.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> GAME OF THRONES ****
>>>>>
>>>>> This show has some profoundly brilliant casting. Tyrion in particular.
>>>>> I have changed my mind though about the categories the characters fit
>>>>> into. In addition to evil and stupid, they also have crazy.
>>>>
>>>> You also have heroic, honorable
>>>
>>> I already covered stupid.
>>
>> Wow you're really cynical.
>>
>>>
>>> and supernatural-visionary.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Don't think I've gotten to those.
>>
>> How about the dragon lady? Or the kids with the direwolves?
>>
>
>I didn't really consider any of that to be supernatural. Sure
>fantastic, but nothing that couldn't be explained away.

I just looked at an episode list. By the end of Season 1, you've got
the White Walkers north of the wall, the reanimation of Daenerys'
husband, and the big climax, Danny walking into the bonfire with the
dragon eggs and staying until it burns out.

I don't see how could you miss it, especially since Danny comes out
with all her clothes burned off :) You must have been half-watching.

[David Johnston]

I don't care about spoilers.

[Jim G.]

Ubiquitous sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 05:03:59 -0400:
>
> What did you watch?

GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
[Nick, Monroe and Hank discover that members of a Wesen community have
been responsible for a series of bank robberies; Juliette questions her
mental state.]

There's a nasty termite problem at Nick's house. Or something. Or maybe
it's something that Juliette ate. Or drank. On a less funny note, the
writers had her drop her phone into the "pit"? Seriously? Do they hate
the Juliette character or the actress? Because everyone else is getting
some awesome stuff to chew on while Juliette is getting shuffled off to
the side with this lame crap. Elsewhere, the Exotic Spice & Tea Shop is
still Wesen Central, with Rosalee (along with more and more Monrosalee)
taking over for her late brother, who had taken over for their father.
As for the weekly plot, the Wesen Council more or less hires a Jack Ruby
wannabe to take care of the problem children as Nick and Hank escort
them into the police station. That's one way to remove a headache, I
guess. All in all, it was great to see various combos of Nick, Hank,
Monroe and Rosalee all working together, and having Renard on their side
(more or less) shows that the battle lines are becoming more and more
defined for the inevitable Wesen Civil War. Again, my biggest beef is
the Juliette crap. Renard was saddled with it for a long time, too, but
at least he's getting back in the groove now. Juliette ... not so much.

Grade: A-

CULT (CW, 8 PM) / Get With the Program
[Skye and Jeff meet with a woman who says her husband went missing after
he became obsessed with ``Cult''; E.J. finds an IP address that could
help locate Nate.]

So our guest star gal ran a strange CD on an office net? Including the
executable(s)? Yeah, that's not stupid, or anything. Or grounds for
termination. And the hackers left an IP address on their burned disks?
And it was a legit IP addy? Not too bright. And there's no security at
an ongoing "Cult" set, even though it has so many batshit crazy fans who
would/should be constantly tearing it up looking for clues to whatever
it is that they're seeking? And what was Rami doing in the massive
septic tank when our gang arrived? Napping? Oh, well. Despite this
silliness, it was still fun. And we got our first bit of Cool Black
Dude, who guests this week but would probably be a regular if the show
survived for long (which it won't). But someone needs to tell him that
Cool Black Dudes must have shaved heads these days. It's a rule, or
something.

Grade: B- (still fun and creepy and innovative, but it's getting harder
to ignore the stupid)

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre
"Good evening. I'm a lizard woman from the dawn of time, and this is my wife." -- Madame Vastra, DOCTOR WHO

[Jim G.]

Obveeus sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 08:39:54 -0400:

>
> "Ubiquitous" <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> > What did you watch?
>
>

> GRIMM: The second half of the spell breaking procedure was a big old
> nothing...but then poor Juliette is forgotten about and sent home to suffer

> in a pit of her own despair. Meanwhile, everyone else fights to stop a band
> of Wesen bank robbers. Nick blew it big time in this episode. What would
> have happened if the Wesen Council had not stopped these bank robbers? What
> if they had changed for the cameras at the police station as they were
> brought in?

That would have defeated the plan. Yes, they wanted to use their
Wesen-ness as cover for their crimes, but they knew that their best
defense was that very same Wesen-ness, and they presumably knew that
anything on that front that the cops raised would have been seen as
being batshit crazy--as long as the robbers *didn't* volunteer to change
into their Wesen form and offer the proof themselves.

> Nick was still thinking too much like a cop and not enough like
> a creature.

You could be right, or he could have just had a sense of their
unwillingness to out themselves as Wesen.

[Jim G.]

anim8rFSK sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 06:47:41 -0700:
> In article <ki1cek$7t5$1...@dont-email.me>,
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>
> > MOONRAKER:
> > Well, that wasn't so good! James Bond investigates the theft of several
> > Space Shuttles by a man who wants to kill everyone on Earth and
> > repopulate it with the descendants of his beautiful henchmen. Yeah, it
> > doesn't make a bit of sense to me either.
>
> I saw it in the theater with an astronaut. When they stole the ship in
> the beginning off the back of the 747, she says "um, the orbiter doesn't
> have a fuel supply ..." :)

If anyone is looking for me, I'll be over here. Sitting on my hands.
Saying nothing. Humming to myself. Thinking happy thoughts.

[Jim G.]

Ian J. Ball sent the following on Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:20:30 -0700:
> In article <ki2lba$888$1...@dont-email.me>,

> "icebreaker" <icebr...@anywherebuthere.com> wrote:
>
> > "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message

> > news:ijball-NO_SPAM-312...@news.eternal-september.org...

>
> > > Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show is
> > > just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full background-noise
> > > for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).
> >
> > Good cast, bad show.
>
> Agreed. It's criminal that Robert Knepper and Alona Tal (not to mention
> Stacey Farber) are being wasted like this... :/

I'm still trying to figure out if the blonde playing Kelly sucks as an
actress or if she's an actress trying to make it clear that she's
playing an actress. But "Kelly" is terrible, and I don't know if it's on
purpose (to some extent) or not.

[David Johnston]

On 3/18/2013 2:02 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> Ubiquitous sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 05:03:59 -0400:
>>
>> What did you watch?
>
> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
> [Nick, Monroe and Hank discover that members of a Wesen community have
> been responsible for a series of bank robberies; Juliette questions her
> mental state.]
>
> There's a nasty termite problem at Nick's house. Or something. Or maybe
> it's something that Juliette ate. Or drank. On a less funny note, the
> writers had her drop her phone into the "pit"? Seriously? Do they hate
> the Juliette character or the actress? Because everyone else is getting
> some awesome stuff to chew on while Juliette is getting shuffled off to
> the side with this lame crap.

As I've pointed out before, if they were a team of superheroes, Juliette
would be "Useless Lass". She has nothing to contribute bar being the
girlfriend/damsel in distress.

[Obveeus]

"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
> Ian J. Ball sent the following on Sun, 17 Mar 2013 09:20:30 -0700:
>> In article <ki2lba$888$1...@dont-email.me>,
>> "icebreaker" <icebr...@anywherebuthere.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
>> > news:ijball-NO_SPAM-312...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> > > Sorry, folks - "Cult" couldn't hold my interest this week - this show
>> > > is
>> > > just not getting it done. This is now consigned to full
>> > > background-noise
>> > > for me. (I may even switch to "Grimm"... :/ ).
>> >
>> > Good cast, bad show.
>>
>> Agreed. It's criminal that Robert Knepper and Alona Tal (not to mention
>> Stacey Farber) are being wasted like this... :/
>
> I'm still trying to figure out if the blonde playing Kelly sucks as an
> actress or if she's an actress trying to make it clear that she's
> playing an actress. But "Kelly" is terrible, and I don't know if it's on
> purpose (to some extent) or not.

This is why I was confused after the first episode and thought that she was
Anna Kendrick. The blonde's acting is terrible, but I'm with you on not
being quite sure yet if it is as intended or just a function of the casting.

[Obveeus]

"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
> [Nick, Monroe and Hank discover that members of a Wesen community have
> been responsible for a series of bank robberies; Juliette questions her
> mental state.]
>
> There's a nasty termite problem at Nick's house. Or something. Or maybe
> it's something that Juliette ate. Or drank. On a less funny note, the
> writers had her drop her phone into the "pit"? Seriously? Do they hate
> the Juliette character or the actress? Because everyone else is getting
> some awesome stuff to chew on while Juliette is getting shuffled off to
> the side with this lame crap.

But ultimately, the pit was not real. It was all in her mind and she had
only dropped her phone onto the floor...or maybe she never even dropped her
phone, but only thought she had? In any case, My eyes rolled way back when
she first dropped her phone (becauswe the scenario was so silly), but they
saved it when the scene was transformed into one in which she was having a
mental event (perhaps part of the process of her recovering her memory or
part of the ongoing spell that made her forget Nick in the first place).

> As for the weekly plot, the Wesen Council more or less hires a Jack Ruby
> wannabe to take care of the problem children as Nick and Hank escort
> them into the police station. That's one way to remove a headache, I
> guess.

It was also a very familiar plotline for mafia shows...guy is paid to
eliminate a problem for 'the family', frequently even agreeing to jail time
of his own as part of the process.

[Ubiquitous]

jimg...@geemail.com.invalid wrote:
>anim8rFSK sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 06:47:41 -0700:

>> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:

>> > MOONRAKER:
>> > Well, that wasn't so good! James Bond investigates the theft of several
>> > Space Shuttles by a man who wants to kill everyone on Earth and
>> > repopulate it with the descendants of his beautiful henchmen. Yeah, it
>> > doesn't make a bit of sense to me either.
>>
>> I saw it in the theater with an astronaut. When they stole the ship in
>> the beginning off the back of the 747, she says "um, the orbiter doesn't
>> have a fuel supply ..." :)
>
>If anyone is looking for me, I'll be over here. Sitting on my hands.
>Saying nothing. Humming to myself. Thinking happy thoughts.

Oh? Nothing to say? :-)

I noticed that the Roger Moore movies were mostly derivitive of the Connery
ones.

--
"Right now, the president is not solving the budget chaos because he
doesn't want to cut federal spending. That's the truth. And the spinners
are misleading you. They are lying to you. That makes me angry. So you
saw that and will most likely see it again in the future."
-- Bill O'Reilly

[Mason Barge]

On Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:56:05 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>

Well then, I can say that there are huge, even determinative,
supernatural elements, especially in the north (the Stark kids and
miscellaneous zombie-like enemies; in Essos (the Daenyres plot and
some other stuff) and with Stannis Baratheon, the older brother of the
dead king Robert.

[Jim G.]

Obveeus sent the following on Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:42:25 -0400:

When she's just playing an actress, she doesn't seem to be *quite* as
bad as when she's playing an actress playing an actress, so part of it
could be an intentional I'm-acting-like-a-bad-actor bit. But we haven't
seen enough of her as non-Kelly for me to really be able to tell.

And if she *is* intentionally doing some bad acting, I hope that that's
clear to anyone who might be in a position to hire her after this show
gets canceled. Shades of the early Anna Torv in FRINGE if that's the
case...

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre

"Relax. It's North Korea, the nation-state equivalent of the short bus." -- Sterling Archer, ARCHER

[Jim G.]

Obveeus sent the following on Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:49:15 -0400:

>
> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
> > [Nick, Monroe and Hank discover that members of a Wesen community have
> > been responsible for a series of bank robberies; Juliette questions her
> > mental state.]
> >
> > There's a nasty termite problem at Nick's house. Or something. Or maybe
> > it's something that Juliette ate. Or drank. On a less funny note, the
> > writers had her drop her phone into the "pit"? Seriously? Do they hate
> > the Juliette character or the actress? Because everyone else is getting
> > some awesome stuff to chew on while Juliette is getting shuffled off to
> > the side with this lame crap.
>
> But ultimately, the pit was not real. It was all in her mind and she had
> only dropped her phone onto the floor...or maybe she never even dropped her
> phone, but only thought she had?

Everything seems to be real except for the pit, so I'll assume that she
really dropped the phone. It would have been appropriate if the next
thing she'd done was to fall and sprain an ankle.

> In any case, My eyes rolled way back when
> she first dropped her phone (becauswe the scenario was so silly), but they
> saved it when the scene was transformed into one in which she was having a
> mental event (perhaps part of the process of her recovering her memory or
> part of the ongoing spell that made her forget Nick in the first place).

I'm sure that it has something to do with that, but still...

> > As for the weekly plot, the Wesen Council more or less hires a Jack Ruby
> > wannabe to take care of the problem children as Nick and Hank escort
> > them into the police station. That's one way to remove a headache, I
> > guess.
>
> It was also a very familiar plotline for mafia shows...guy is paid to
> eliminate a problem for 'the family', frequently even agreeing to jail time
> of his own as part of the process.

Yep. Heck, pay the guy enough and he's making more a year while in jail
than most of us make outside of jail. And it's Oregon. Prisoners there
probably get cable with all of the premium channels plus Netflix,
regular massages from professional masseuses, and all of the weed that
they can smoke.

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre

[Jim G.]

David Johnston sent the following on Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:02:22 -0600:

And if I'm the actress, I look at my part and my lines and compare them
to what the others are getting and ask (or at least think to myself)
"Really?" Again, it's *so* noticeable to me (especially with Rosalee
getting more and more good stuff) that I have to wonder if the actress
is difficult to work with, or something. I mean, she started out as this
smart and competent and self-sufficient professional, and now look at
her. Yeah, it's all spell-related, but it's still a mighty fall from the
person she was at the outset of the show. And it's been this way for a
long, long time now. She's either been a non-factor or an annoyance for
far too long now.

--
Jim G. | A fan of the good and the bad, but not the mediocre

[David Johnston]

Oh I know that there are supernatural elements. It's low fantasy but it
is definitely fantasy. But magical people still fit into the crazy,
stupid and evil categories.

[David Johnston]

On 3/19/2013 1:40 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> David Johnston sent the following on Mon, 18 Mar 2013 15:02:22 -0600:
>> On 3/18/2013 2:02 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>> Ubiquitous sent the following on Sat, 16 Mar 2013 05:03:59 -0400:
>>>>
>>>> What did you watch?
>>>
>>> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
>>> [Nick, Monroe and Hank discover that members of a Wesen community have
>>> been responsible for a series of bank robberies; Juliette questions her
>>> mental state.]
>>>
>>> There's a nasty termite problem at Nick's house. Or something. Or maybe
>>> it's something that Juliette ate. Or drank. On a less funny note, the
>>> writers had her drop her phone into the "pit"? Seriously? Do they hate
>>> the Juliette character or the actress? Because everyone else is getting
>>> some awesome stuff to chew on while Juliette is getting shuffled off to
>>> the side with this lame crap.
>>
>> As I've pointed out before, if they were a team of superheroes, Juliette
>> would be "Useless Lass". She has nothing to contribute bar being the
>> girlfriend/damsel in distress.
>
> And if I'm the actress, I look at my part and my lines and compare them
> to what the others are getting and ask (or at least think to myself)
> "Really?" Again, it's *so* noticeable to me (especially with Rosalee
> getting more and more good stuff) that I have to wonder if the actress
> is difficult to work with, or something. I mean, she started out as this
> smart and competent and self-sufficient professional,

But what she never was, was relevant. I mean, she's a mundane
veterinarian. About the only thing she had to offer if clued in was
unlawful medical care.

[Obveeus]

"David Johnston" <Da...@block.net> wrote:

> On 3/19/2013 1:40 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>>> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
>>

>> And if I'm the actress, I look at my part and my lines and compare them
>> to what the others are getting and ask (or at least think to myself)
>> "Really?" Again, it's *so* noticeable to me (especially with Rosalee
>> getting more and more good stuff) that I have to wonder if the actress
>> is difficult to work with, or something. I mean, she started out as this
>> smart and competent and self-sufficient professional,
>
> But what she never was, was relevant. I mean, she's a mundane
> veterinarian. About the only thing she had to offer if clued in was
> unlawful medical care.

Juliette saved Nick's life on one or two occasions early in the series. Jim
is correct, the writers have shuffled her to the back burner for some
reason.

[Obveeus]

"Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:

> Obveeus sent the following on Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:49:15 -0400:
>>
>> "Jim G." <jimg...@geemail.com.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> > GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
>> > [Nick, Monroe and Hank discover that members of a Wesen community have
>> > been responsible for a series of bank robberies; Juliette questions her
>> > mental state.]
>> >
>> > There's a nasty termite problem at Nick's house. Or something. Or maybe
>> > it's something that Juliette ate. Or drank. On a less funny note, the
>> > writers had her drop her phone into the "pit"? Seriously? Do they hate
>> > the Juliette character or the actress? Because everyone else is getting
>> > some awesome stuff to chew on while Juliette is getting shuffled off to
>> > the side with this lame crap.
>>
>> But ultimately, the pit was not real. It was all in her mind and she had
>> only dropped her phone onto the floor...or maybe she never even dropped
>> her
>> phone, but only thought she had?
>
> Everything seems to be real except for the pit, so I'll assume that she
> really dropped the phone. It would have been appropriate if the next
> thing she'd done was to fall and sprain an ankle.

Give it time. She cannot sprain an ankle until she has to run away from
something.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

That's how I thought of it too. But it's going to go from low to high
real soon...

But magical people still fit into the crazy,
> stupid and evil categories.

The main magical character(s) who fits the above haven't even been
introduced yet. They don't arrive until season two.


Have you seen the season three promos? The baby dragons are growing up.
:-)

[Jim G.]

David Johnston sent the following on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:06:19 -0600:

Way wrong. Think of the episode where she got called in *as* a
veterinarian and then did some research of her own. That's the sort of
way that I was expecting her character to be used in the future as of
that point. She could have been their go-to person for any Wesen that
they capture, and all that. Instead, they turn her into Sleeping Beauty
for all this time. And even after she awakens, she's still just
wandering aimlessly and cluelessly and doing little more than dropping
her phone.

[Jim G.]

Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:36:13 -0400:

And as I pointed out, a veterinarian would probably come in really handy
when dealing with Wesen critters. The more I think about it, the more I
think that that was the original intent, but that something happened
along the way to get the writers to switch gears. I just don't have any
idea what that "something" would have been, unless it's just a way to
pad things and provide filler. After all, this whole subplot *did* come
about *after* the network placed the original backorder, and now that
the show is on relatively solid ground for yet another renewal, it very
well could be nothing more than padding, with the Juliette character
being the one unlucky enough to get stuck with the sucky stuff.

[Jim G.]

Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:37:50 -0400:

They could have had her slip as she ran up the stairs. I mean, c'mon. If
the writers are gonna make her helpless and incompetent, just go for the
quick strike. Or have her wrench out her back as she reaches down for
the phone. Anything, really, just so long as it's completely lame and
inconsistent with the Juliette that we got to know early on in the first
season.

[David Johnston]

On 3/20/2013 1:59 PM, Jim G. wrote:
> Obveeus sent the following on Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:36:13 -0400:
>>
>> "David Johnston" <Da...@block.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/19/2013 1:40 PM, Jim G. wrote:
>>>>>> GRIMM (NBC, 8 PM) / Natural Born Wesen
>>>>
>>>> And if I'm the actress, I look at my part and my lines and compare them
>>>> to what the others are getting and ask (or at least think to myself)
>>>> "Really?" Again, it's *so* noticeable to me (especially with Rosalee
>>>> getting more and more good stuff) that I have to wonder if the actress
>>>> is difficult to work with, or something. I mean, she started out as this
>>>> smart and competent and self-sufficient professional,
>>>
>>> But what she never was, was relevant. I mean, she's a mundane
>>> veterinarian. About the only thing she had to offer if clued in was
>>> unlawful medical care.
>>
>> Juliette saved Nick's life on one or two occasions early in the series. Jim
>> is correct, the writers have shuffled her to the back burner for some
>> reason.
>
> And as I pointed out, a veterinarian would probably come in really handy
> when dealing with Wesen critters.

If that is, they hadn't introduced Rosalee who actually knows what she's
doing when dealing with Wesen medical problems.

[David Barnett]

In article <mmtjk8pilvgu5qhe3...@4ax.com>,
jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...

The hole in the floor was reminiscent of 666 Park Avenue,
which a cable Channel here is now airing the last 4
episodes.

--
David Barnett

[Jim G.]

David Johnston sent the following on Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:08:23 -0600:

Yes, because when it comes to what Juliette could bring to the table,
there's absolutely no difference between a potion mixer learning as she
goes and a real vet with real schooling and a real understanding of
biology and a real degree behind her. You've convinced me.

[David Johnston]

There's a big difference. Rosalee knows what she's dealing with while
Juliette has irrelevant formal training. It would be different if the
wessen actually were animals so that understanding how to treat a fox
would be helpful when treating a fox wessen but they aren't and it isn't.

[Mason Barge]

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013 14:04:11 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>

Not really. Daenyrys (howthehell DO you spell that?) is very cool. A
couple of the Stark kids aren't evil, stupid or crazy. The redheaded
Northen woman (the one who played the maid turned secretary on Downton
Abbey).

[David Johnston]

Bear in mind that I'm in the first season.

[Jim G.]

David Barnett sent the following on Thu, 21 Mar 2013 10:35:21 +1100:

You're getting the last four already? Lucky bastage. :)

[Mason Barge]

On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 16:59:50 -0600, David Johnston <Da...@block.net>

Yeah and before the final credits roll for S.1, her plot kicks in.
Look forward to it. Well, tastes differ, but I'd give her story an
A+. She's definitely not evil or stupid. And although I'm not 100%
clear on what you'd call "low fantasy", I'm pretty sure she rises to
at least medium-high :)

Stannis' witch is hard to call really "evil", also. For that matter,
Tyrion isn't really evil, although he's hardly good. Just
self-seeking and often amoral.

[David Barnett]

In article <ha6pk8l3t73kcocfl...@4ax.com>,
jimg...@geemail.com.invalid says...

I nearly missed it all!

I will be recording "The Comfort of Death" (1-10)
tomorrow, & lucky for me it is a repeat airing. It is
listed as having CC.

Episode 1-11 "Sins of Our Father" is listed for Monday
March 25, but without CC. However ,I have found CC
listings unreliable. If it doesn't have CC I will wait to
see if the repeat the following Sunday does.

Revolution 1-11 "The Stand" is listed for Wednesday March
27, but I think you get this one 2 days earlier.

--
David Barnett

[David Barnett]

In article <hhhpk89nsh2hobsd3...@4ax.com>,
mason...@gmail.com says...
>
<snips>

> >>>>>>>>>>> GAME OF THRONES ****

Is this Season 3 being discussed.?

--
David Barnett

[anim8rFSK]

In article <MPG.2bb790704...@news.bigpond.com>,

Pity us.

--
"Every time a Kardashian gets a TV show, an angel dies."

[Mason Barge]

On Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:16:00 +1100, David Barnett
<dbar...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:

>In article <hhhpk89nsh2hobsd3...@4ax.com>,
>mason...@gmail.com says...
>>
><snips>
>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> GAME OF THRONES ****
>
>Is this Season 3 being discussed.?

Isn't the big bonfire scene in the last episode of Season 1?

Yeah I checked the Episode Index on Wikipedia. I was trying to talk
about Season 1, at any rate. The Daenerys (got the spelling right!)
plot launches full-bore. Or should I say, her true nature is
"revealed" :)

[Mason Barge]

I'm not sure I can bear to watch them. I was very disappointed to see
this end prematurely. I didn't like it as much as "Awake", but at
least Awake got to do a final episode and tie things up. Not very
well, but that's another thread.

[Jim G.]

David Johnston sent the following on Thu, 21 Mar 2013 14:00:43 -0600:

Wrong again. Rosalee knows they exist and can use books to mix up
potions. That's all. Juliet, once she's told that they exist, could
begin to do biological and chemical analysis of what makes them tick.

What you're saying is similar to suggesting that someone who can drive a
car is, by definition, an automotive engineer.

> with while
> Juliette has irrelevant formal training.

Irrelevant? So Wesen aren't carbon-based biological entities? Who knew?

> It would be different if the
> wessen actually were animals so that understanding how to treat a fox
> would be helpful when treating a fox wessen but they aren't and it isn't.

You can't possibly know what you conveniently claim to know about Wesen
anatomy and biology. And I'm not claiming that Juliette would be able to
figure it all out in any hurry, but for you to suggest that she would
bring nothing to the table is not very bright.

[Jim G.]

David Barnett sent the following on Sat, 23 Mar 2013 10:13:00 +1100:

But you didn't! That's the main thing!

> I will be recording "The Comfort of Death" (1-10)
> tomorrow, & lucky for me it is a repeat airing. It is
> listed as having CC.
>
> Episode 1-11 "Sins of Our Father" is listed for Monday
> March 25, but without CC. However ,I have found CC
> listings unreliable. If it doesn't have CC I will wait to
> see if the repeat the following Sunday does.

Have you ever considered a good set of wireless headphones that would
work with your television?

> Revolution 1-11 "The Stand" is listed for Wednesday March
> 27, but I think you get this one 2 days earlier.

Snarkability notwithstanding, I won't be watching unless someone tells
me that the rubber ducky pops up again. Or doesn't pop up, if you know
what I mean. :)

[Jim G.]

Mason Barge sent the following on Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:35:16 -0400:

Knowing not to expect closure, I think that I can watch them without too
much pain. I hope. If they leave a lot of unanswered questions, though,
it'll be another case where it would be nice if the writers would be
allowed to write a text-based summary of what they had planned to do,
and to offer that summary at the show's website, or something. In
addition to being a considerate thing to do, it could also help to get
people to sample serials that they might otherwise not sample out of
fear of never seeing a real ending.