SGU--FINALLY! This is the show we've been waiting for! ("Earth" spoilers)
Ken from Chicago
STARGATE UNIVERSE series that SG and SF fans have been clamoring, waiting,
hoping, for:
Science fiction
Drama
Humor
Excitement
Humor
Take-charge-ness
Courage
Humor
Gumption
Intrigue
and even
Romance (altho ... someone ... had already predicted that)
Yeah, the episode was slow-going at first (yeah, right, like they really
gonna make it back to Earth), but wow did it pick up speed as it went along,
first when the Loumeister took charge (btw, too much Lou is never enough),
but really picked up speed, ironically enough, when the ship lost speed and
came out of FTL drive.
-- Ken from Chicago
P.S. Bonus was them finally explaining how the commstones work. Once the
rules are defined audience can sit back and enjoy (e.g., kryptonite bad,
don't feed the ghoulies after midnight, the invisible man turns invisible
but not his clothes, the invisible cloak turns everything underneath
invisible but they can still be heard, etc.)--and the writers can write
better, more entertaining stories once the limits are clear.
Syvyn11
"Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Six hours / 5 weeks / 5 episodes / 1 month in the making, we FINALLY get
> the STARGATE UNIVERSE series that SG and SF fans have been clamoring,
> waiting, hoping, for:
>
> Science fiction
> Drama
> Humor
> Excitement
> Humor
> Take-charge-ness
> Courage
> Humor
> Gumption
> Intrigue
> and even
> Romance (altho ... someone ... had already predicted that)
And a good dose of "Jack O'Neil" snarky-ness! And Jack sticking it to the
IOA guy at the end.
Pete B
kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
>
> -- Ken from Chicago
Wow, I never knew you were a teenage girl Ken! *g*
PV
>Six hours / 5 weeks / 5 episodes / 1 month in the making, we FINALLY get the
>STARGATE UNIVERSE series that SG and SF fans have been clamoring, waiting,
>hoping, for:
The bit with Rush faking the overload was a nice twist. And they explored
the use of the stones WAY more than I expected them ever to. Good job. *
--
* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.
Gisele
I want what your smoking......<g>
Gisele
erilar
way through. It was even fairly interesting. And I'm getting to like
Eli more and more.
--
Erilar, biblioholic
bib-li-o-hol-ism [<Gr biblion] n. [BIBLIO + HOLISM] books, of books:
habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in excess.
Tim Bruening
Ken from Chicago wrote:
When 3 people needed to go to Earth, they set up 3 commstones on that screen
(what is it called?). What would have happened if there had been only one
person and one stone at the other end?
Dan Lanciani
| P.S. Bonus was them finally explaining how the commstones work.
They did? I was even more confused about how the stones work after
this episode. Which physical brain does the high-level processing
for which body?
Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com
Pete B
tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us says...
> >
> > P.S. Bonus was them finally explaining how the commstones work. Once the
> > rules are defined audience can sit back and enjoy (e.g., kryptonite bad,
> > don't feed the ghoulies after midnight, the invisible man turns invisible
> > but not his clothes, the invisible cloak turns everything underneath
> > invisible but they can still be heard, etc.)--and the writers can write
> > better, more entertaining stories once the limits are clear.
>
> When 3 people needed to go to Earth, they set up 3 commstones on that screen
> (what is it called?). What would have happened if there had been only one
> person and one stone at the other end?
Only one person would have gone through.
Pete B
Well, they didn't explain anything. But it seems clear they are using
the Dollhouse model, they transfer the brain software back and forth
(perhaps they can record it and story it on a hard drive, then they find
the personality of old ancients and download one! Or would that be too
scifiy for StargateOrgasm *g*)
But either way, the consciousness (the software of the body) is
exchanged, what the Eli software is in the other guys body, that person
is Eli - expect in body - and the other way.
Ken from Chicago
"erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
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SEE?!! ERILAR liked it. Erilar.
The only way it could be better if ... (gasp) ... Anim lik-er well, did not
utterly despise it.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Dan Lanciani" <ddl@danlan.*com> wrote in message
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Last person to touch the matching pair of stones does the switch, if they
are in close enough proximity to said commstone, otherwise they wouldn't
have to have "monitor duty" at the base--unless they used that control WHERE
the incoming transfer happens instead of having the commstone roaming
around.
-- Ken from Chicago
DJensen
The one with the matching stone. They haven't said so on SGU, but I
think in the episode where O'Neill jumped into Homer Simpson's body, it
was established that the stones come in pairs.
--
DJensen
Pete B
kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
>
> "erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
> news:drache-909F12....@news.eternal-september.org...
> > This is the first episode that didn't irritate and bore me most of the
> > way through. It was even fairly interesting. And I'm getting to like
> > Eli more and more.
> >
> > --
> > Erilar, biblioholic
> >
> > bib-li-o-hol-ism [<Gr biblion] n. [BIBLIO + HOLISM] books, of books:
> > habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in
> > excess.
> >
> > http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
>
> SEE?!! ERILAR liked it. Erilar.
Hey, that's almost a fox like spin !
She didn't think it was quite as bad as the others ;)
DJensen
> In article <gu6dndC1latZaWjX...@giganews.com>,
> kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
>> Last person to touch the matching pair of stones does the switch, if they
>> are in close enough proximity to said commstone, otherwise they wouldn't
>> have to have "monitor duty" at the base--unless they used that control WHERE
>> the incoming transfer happens instead of having the commstone roaming
>> around.
>
I think proximity was canon first. O'Neill and the guy who voices Homer
Simpson were picking up psychic activity for years just by being near
the stones, but I don't think they had the plate thing to activate them.
--
DJensen
Pete B
i_m...@yahoo.ca says...
Who?
>it
> was established that the stones come in pairs.
Yes, but according to mallozzi stargate command has hacked them a bit.
Though most likely the stones are still paired.
Pete B
i_m...@yahoo.ca says...
Hm, its been too long, I only vaugely remember that episode (felt very
filler like)
DJensen
> In article <6f743$4af5f74c$4c0aa3ea$60...@TEKSAVVY.COM-Free>,
> i_m...@yahoo.ca says...
>> Pete B wrote:
>>> In article <4AF5E212...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
>>> tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us says...
>>>>> P.S. Bonus was them finally explaining how the commstones work. Once the
>>>>> rules are defined audience can sit back and enjoy (e.g., kryptonite bad,
>>>>> don't feed the ghoulies after midnight, the invisible man turns invisible
>>>>> but not his clothes, the invisible cloak turns everything underneath
>>>>> invisible but they can still be heard, etc.)--and the writers can write
>>>>> better, more entertaining stories once the limits are clear.
>>>> When 3 people needed to go to Earth, they set up 3 commstones on that screen
>>>> (what is it called?). What would have happened if there had been only one
>>>> person and one stone at the other end?
>>> Only one person would have gone through.
>> The one with the matching stone. They haven't said so on SGU, but I
>> think in the episode where O'Neill jumped into Homer Simpson's body,
>
> Who?
Joe Spencer, played by the voice of Homer Simpson, Dan Castellaneta.
"Citizen Joe", season 8 episode 15.
I don't think they actually swapped bodies, but they were psychically
connected through stones.
>> it
>> was established that the stones come in pairs.
>
> Yes, but according to mallozzi stargate command has hacked them a bit.
> Though most likely the stones are still paired.
The only evidence of hacking I've seen so far is the custom power plates
they sit the stones on.
--
DJensen
Dimensional Traveler
--
7 Years - 2265 Experiments - 10 tons of explosives - 705 Myths
Myths - Will - Fall!
Dan Lanciani
The problem I have with that model is that historically they were
able to break the connection by destroying or damaging the device,
and the users remembered what had happened up to the disconnect.
If the software is really swapped, what swaps it back in those
cases? The stone on the other end all by itself? (In the SGA
version there was only one terminal device and they zapped it.)
Similarly, the interruptions coming out of FTL would have to be
a result of the system predicting a problem and unswapping in
advance of actually losing communication.
This seems to have many of the problems of Cylon downloading.
Of course, if it really is swapping and they could prevent the
swap back then the clone idea would be a good way to bring
everybody home...
Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com
Anim8rFSK
Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> Ken from Chicago wrote:
> > "erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
> > news:drache-909F12....@news.eternal-september.org...
> >> This is the first episode that didn't irritate and bore me most of the
> >> way through. It was even fairly interesting. And I'm getting to like
> >> Eli more and more.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Erilar, biblioholic
> >>
> >> bib-li-o-hol-ism [<Gr biblion] n. [BIBLIO + HOLISM] books, of books:
> >> habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in
> >> excess.
> >>
> >> http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
> >
> > SEE?!! ERILAR liked it. Erilar.
> >
> > The only way it could be better if ... (gasp) ... Anim lik-er well, did not
> > utterly despise it.
> >
> "Anim will watch it. Anim will watch _anything_!" heehee
I set the DVR for an encore later in the week. We'll see. This better
not be one of Ken's tricks . . .
--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU!
Ken from Chicago
"Dimensional Traveler" <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>> "erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:drache-909F12....@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> This is the first episode that didn't irritate and bore me most of the
>>> way through. It was even fairly interesting. And I'm getting to like
>>> Eli more and more.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Erilar, biblioholic
>>>
>>> bib-li-o-hol-ism [<Gr biblion] n. [BIBLIO + HOLISM] books, of books:
>>> habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in
>>> excess.
>>>
>>> http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
>>
>> SEE?!! ERILAR liked it. Erilar.
>>
>> The only way it could be better if ... (gasp) ... Anim lik-er well, did
>> not utterly despise it.
>>
> "Anim will watch it. Anim will watch _anything_!" heehee
But will he like it? Will he likey?
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Anim8rFSK" <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote in message
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Anim, this is the ep that REMOVES the "u".
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"Dan Lanciani" <ddl@danlan.*com> wrote in message
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Maybe they found different commstones that work differently.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"DJensen" <i_m...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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Maybe these are a different model of commstones.
-- Ken from Chicago
cf
> In article <gu6dndC1latZaWjX...@giganews.com>,
> kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
>>
>> Last person to touch the matching pair of stones does the switch, if they
>> are in close enough proximity to said commstone, otherwise they wouldn't
>> have to have "monitor duty" at the base--unless they used that control
>> WHERE the incoming transfer happens instead of having the commstone
>> roaming around.
>
> Canon used to be you have to TOUCH it.
Damn, another Quinn Martin production? I think Canon(Cannon) is too fat for
the comm stones!
Dimensional Traveler
Seriously though, I have no idea. I've given up trying to figure out
what other people will or won't like.
Anim8rFSK
Are you sure it doesn't just look good compared to the weeks of crap you
ate that I avoided?
erilar
> Anim, this is the ep that REMOVES the "u".
Well, "u" for "uncertain future" stays in, but I didn't spell it SGUgh
this time 8-)
erilar
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> Are you sure it doesn't just look good compared to the weeks of crap you
> ate that I avoided?
That may be the secret, but it was BETTER than any of the earlier
episodes.
Michael Bowker
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9750B...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Are you sure it doesn't just look good compared to the weeks of crap you
>> ate that I avoided?
>
> That may be the secret, but it was BETTER than any of the earlier
> episodes.
>
Better? Well maybe a little bit. But it's not any great leap forward.
Ken from Chicago
Yeah, right, like you didn't watch SGU.
As the OP said, it was not merely "the best SGU ever", which would be
cursing it with faint praise (akin to saying "the best ANDROMEDA episode of
its 5th season"). It was an actually good, even great episode. It even
finally managed to recapture many of the elements fans loved about SG1.
-- Ken from Chicago
Anim8rFSK
erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <Pa-dndzFZra-y2vX...@giganews.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Anim, this is the ep that REMOVES the "u".
>
> Well, "u" for "uncertain future" stays in, but I didn't spell it SGUgh
> this time 8-)
LOL
Anim8rFSK
erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9750B...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > Are you sure it doesn't just look good compared to the weeks of crap you
> > ate that I avoided?
>
> That may be the secret, but it was BETTER than any of the earlier
> episodes.
Gotcha. We'll see on Wednesday.
Anim8rFSK
I quit at "Darkness"
>
> As the OP said, it was not merely "the best SGU ever", which would be
> cursing it with faint praise (akin to saying "the best ANDROMEDA episode of
> its 5th season"). It was an actually good, even great episode. It even
> finally managed to recapture many of the elements fans loved about SG1.
So they blew up the ship, killed them all, and did something else
entirely?
Pete B
ANIM...@cox.net says...
> In article <4af64014$0$1645$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
> > Ken from Chicago wrote:
> > > "erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
> > > news:drache-909F12....@news.eternal-september.org...
> > >> This is the first episode that didn't irritate and bore me most of the
> > >> way through. It was even fairly interesting. And I'm getting to like
> > >> Eli more and more.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Erilar, biblioholic
> > >>
> > >> bib-li-o-hol-ism [<Gr biblion] n. [BIBLIO + HOLISM] books, of books:
> > >> habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in
> > >> excess.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
> > >
> > > SEE?!! ERILAR liked it. Erilar.
> > >
> > > The only way it could be better if ... (gasp) ... Anim lik-er well, did not
> > > utterly despise it.
> > >
> > "Anim will watch it. Anim will watch _anything_!" heehee
>
> I set the DVR for an encore later in the week. We'll see. This better
> not be one of Ken's tricks . . .
Ah! I'm beginning to see your plan Ken! Excellent work!
*cackle*
Pete B
kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
> As the OP said, it was not merely "the best SGU ever", which would be
> cursing it with faint praise (akin to saying "the best ANDROMEDA episode of
> its 5th season"). It was an actually good, even great episode. It even
> finally managed to recapture many of the elements fans loved about SG1.
I did? Which ones?
whodunit
Apparently they didn't have a full connection, but kind of
'eavesdropped' on each other, because Jack viewed mundane aspects of
Joe's life first hand. IIRC, it was posited that Joe didn't actually
'live' the adventures while being Jack, he picked up Jack's memories as
Jack was filling out after action reports.
whodunit
> In article <4af64014$0$1645$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> Ken from Chicago wrote:
>>> "erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:drache-909F12....@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> This is the first episode that didn't irritate and bore me most of the
>>>> way through. It was even fairly interesting. And I'm getting to like
>>>> Eli more and more.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Erilar, biblioholic
>>>>
>>>> bib-li-o-hol-ism [<Gr biblion] n. [BIBLIO + HOLISM] books, of books:
>>>> habitual longing to purchase, read, store, admire, and consume books in
>>>> excess.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo
>>> SEE?!! ERILAR liked it. Erilar.
>>>
>>> The only way it could be better if ... (gasp) ... Anim lik-er well, did not
>>> utterly despise it.
>>>
>> "Anim will watch it. Anim will watch _anything_!" heehee
>
> I set the DVR for an encore later in the week. We'll see. This better
> not be one of Ken's tricks . . .
>
All these big words and phrases from these men here when there's a
three-letter word that narrows down why they enjoyed this particular
episode so much: s-e-x!!
<snickers at the teenager behavior>
Dan Lanciani
I didn't think it was "good" compared to anything. More stuff happened
than usual, but it didn't amount to much. There was a great but missed
opportunity to say, ``then get Carter!''.
A growing problem is that The Last Starfighter (Eli) appears to be the
most level-headed amoung a collection that supposedly includes elite
military personnel. He may also be the smartest, depending on what they
are really doing with Rush. Given a little time he will catch up to
Rush in background information. So you have a Janeway-like situation
where if they would just space Rush, Young, or maybe both and put Eli
in charge they would probably get home soon. The stones make things
worse since there is really no excuse for not bringing in the best
even if Eli were not (the best)...
Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com
Anim8rFSK
Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
See why I suspect a trick?
Dimensional Traveler
> In article <MPG.256148943...@74.209.131.10>,
> Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <QpydnQWYutC7l2rX...@giganews.com>,
>> kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
>>
>>> As the OP said, it was not merely "the best SGU ever", which would be
>>> cursing it with faint praise (akin to saying "the best ANDROMEDA episode of
>>> its 5th season"). It was an actually good, even great episode. It even
>>> finally managed to recapture many of the elements fans loved about SG1.
>> I did? Which ones?
>
> See why I suspect a trick?
>
Pete B
ANIM...@cox.net says...
> In article <MPG.256148943...@74.209.131.10>,
> Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <QpydnQWYutC7l2rX...@giganews.com>,
> > kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
> >
> > > As the OP said, it was not merely "the best SGU ever", which would be
> > > cursing it with faint praise (akin to saying "the best ANDROMEDA episode of
> > > its 5th season"). It was an actually good, even great episode. It even
> > > finally managed to recapture many of the elements fans loved about SG1.
> >
>
> See why I suspect a trick?
I would stock up on comfort food and painkillers before watching.
Pete B
No no, they are "the wrong people in the wrong place"
> He may also be the smartest, depending on what they
> are really doing with Rush. Given a little time he will catch up to
> Rush in background information. So you have a Janeway-like situation
> where if they would just space Rush, Young, or maybe both and put Eli
> in charge they would probably get home soon. The stones make things
> worse since there is really no excuse for not bringing in the best
> even if Eli were not (the best)...
But the best have an exucse: We don't want our bodies to get STD's while
we are off in another galaxy ;)
Ken Arromdee
Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
>Well, they didn't explain anything. But it seems clear they are using
>the Dollhouse model, they transfer the brain software back and forth
>(perhaps they can record it and story it on a hard drive, then they find
>the personality of old ancients and download one! Or would that be too
>scifiy for StargateOrgasm *g*)
No, that's not true. They ask about what happens if the ship blows up and
the answer is that the people on Earth probably die, which means it's not
a transfer, rather the brain is controlling the other body over a distance
of billions of light years.
--
Ken Arromdee / arromdee_AT_rahul.net / http://www.rahul.net/arromdee
Obi-wan Kenobi: "Only a Sith deals in absolutes."
Yoda: "Do or do not. There is no 'try'."
Dan Lanciani
| In article <MPG.25601279...@74.209.131.10>,
| Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
| >Well, they didn't explain anything. But it seems clear they are using
| >the Dollhouse model, they transfer the brain software back and forth
| >(perhaps they can record it and story it on a hard drive, then they find
| >the personality of old ancients and download one! Or would that be too
| >scifiy for StargateOrgasm *g*)
|
| No, that's not true. They ask about what happens if the ship blows up and
| the answer is that the people on Earth probably die, which means it's not
| a transfer, rather the brain is controlling the other body over a distance
| of billions of light years.
In that case it's probably a bad idea to get the brain of the guest
scientist drunk...
Dan Lanciani
ddl@danlan.*com
Pete B
> In article <MPG.25601279...@74.209.131.10>,
> Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
> >Well, they didn't explain anything. But it seems clear they are using
> >the Dollhouse model, they transfer the brain software back and forth
> >(perhaps they can record it and story it on a hard drive, then they find
> >the personality of old ancients and download one! Or would that be too
> >scifiy for StargateOrgasm *g*)
>
> No, that's not true.
I said "perhaps"
> They ask about what happens if the ship blows up and
> the answer is that the people on Earth probably die, which means it's not
> a transfer, rather the brain is controlling the other body over a distance
> of billions of light years.
Yeah, I think its a bit shaky what and what won't happen - mostly
because the writers probably haven't made up their mind.
DJensen
Proximity. Joe picked up Jack's report version of events (which he then
turned into his own stories? Am I remembering that?) because the stone
was in Jack's office, where he wrote the reports.
--
DJensen
Ken from Chicago
"A Watcher" <stoc...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:stGdnT2xw9kq7WrX...@earthlink.com...
> Ken Arromdee wrote:
>> In article <MPG.25601279...@74.209.131.10>,
>> Pete B <xxxh@_xsomeething.com> wrote:
>>> Well, they didn't explain anything. But it seems clear they are using
>>> the Dollhouse model, they transfer the brain software back and forth
>>> (perhaps they can record it and story it on a hard drive, then they find
>>> the personality of old ancients and download one! Or would that be too
>>> scifiy for StargateOrgasm *g*)
>>
>> No, that's not true. They ask about what happens if the ship blows up
>> and
>> the answer is that the people on Earth probably die, which means it's not
>> a transfer, rather the brain is controlling the other body over a
>> distance
>> of billions of light years.
>
Both would die.
-- Ken from Chicago
PV
>They did? I was even more confused about how the stones work after
>this episode. Which physical brain does the high-level processing
>for which body?
Since a swapper can drink and feel drunk, I think that's not even a
question. *
--
* PV Something like badgers, something like lizards, and something
like corkscrews.
PV
>> Who would die? Was that explained?
>
>Both would die.
They said that MIGHT happen. It's not something you would want to test. *
Tim Bruening
Pete B wrote:
> In article <135...@news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM>, ddl@danlan.*com says...
> > In article <bbCdnUkIY6NS42jX...@giganews.com>, kwicker1...@comcast.net (Ken from Chicago) writes:
> >
> > | P.S. Bonus was them finally explaining how the commstones work.
> >
> > They did? I was even more confused about how the stones work after
> > this episode. Which physical brain does the high-level processing
> > for which body?
> >
>
> Well, they didn't explain anything. But it seems clear they are using
> the Dollhouse model, they transfer the brain software back and forth
> (perhaps they can record it and story it on a hard drive, then they find
> the personality of old ancients and download one! Or would that be too
> scifiy for StargateOrgasm *g*)
>
> But either way, the consciousness (the software of the body) is
> exchanged, what the Eli software is in the other guys body, that person
> is Eli - expect in body - and the other way.
I propose that Everett Young be cloned from DNA found in his home on earth. Then a commstone could be used to transfer
his brain software into the clone. He could then visit Emily in a body that looks like HIM!
Tim Bruening
DJensen wrote:
> Pete B wrote:
> > In article <4AF5E212...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
> > tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us says...
> >>> P.S. Bonus was them finally explaining how the commstones work. Once the
> >>> rules are defined audience can sit back and enjoy (e.g., kryptonite bad,
> >>> don't feed the ghoulies after midnight, the invisible man turns invisible
> >>> but not his clothes, the invisible cloak turns everything underneath
> >>> invisible but they can still be heard, etc.)--and the writers can write
> >>> better, more entertaining stories once the limits are clear.
> >> When 3 people needed to go to Earth, they set up 3 commstones on that screen
> >> (what is it called?). What would have happened if there had been only one
> >> person and one stone at the other end?
> >
> > Only one person would have gone through.
>
> The one with the matching stone. They haven't said so on SGU, but I
> think in the episode where O'Neill jumped into Homer Simpson's body, it
> was established that the stones come in pairs.
When did that happen?
Tim Bruening
whodunit wrote:
Why didn't Jack pick up on the emotions caused by the breakdown of Joe's
marriage, or on Joe's joy at finding the commstone his wife had thrown out, and
thus realized that something was wrong?
Pete B
tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us says...
> > But either way, the consciousness (the software of the body) is
> > exchanged, what the Eli software is in the other guys body, that person
> > is Eli - expect in body - and the other way.
>
> I propose that Everett Young be cloned from DNA found in his home on earth. Then a commstone could be used to transfer
> his brain software into the clone. He could then visit Emily in a body that looks like HIM!
Hehe, but that would be science fictiony :)
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
<4AF87BB2...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
Tim Bruening
<tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
That's the premise of SG:Afterlife
Tim Bruening
Pete B wrote:
Plot Twist: Everett Young, suspecting his wife of cheating on him with Telford, pretends to be Telford!
Jack Bohn
>Six hours / 5 weeks / 5 episodes / 1 month in the making, we FINALLY get the
>STARGATE UNIVERSE series that SG and SF fans have been clamoring, waiting,
>hoping, for:
and I was out of town, and didn't see it.
They always do this to me, so a big "You're Welcome!" to those
who did enjoy it.
--
-Jack
Anim8rFSK
Jack Bohn <jack...@bright.net> wrote:
It's on tomorrow midday. The Peach and I are taking a chance on it.
Join us
Joooiinnn ussss
Jooooooooooiiiinnnnnnnnnn uuuuusssssssssssssss
Anim8rFSK
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <drache-29FA55....@news.eternal-september.org>,
> erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9750B...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> > Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Are you sure it doesn't just look good compared to the weeks of crap you
> > > ate that I avoided?
> >
> > That may be the secret, but it was BETTER than any of the earlier
> > episodes.
>
> Gotcha. We'll see on Wednesday.
Okay, I just watched it. Yes, it was better than the earlier episodes.
No, it did not rise to the level of watchability. I honestly think it
only looks good to you by comparision to the total crap that's come
before. With the possible exception of Eli, I want them all dead. All
of them, everybody on the ship, everybody at SGC, including Jack. It
was about even with Sanctuary (current Sancutary, not beginning of this
season or end of last season Sanctuary which was actually good), which
I'm a hair's breadth away from stopping as well. My sig stands.
erilar
Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
> Okay, I just watched it. Yes, it was better than the earlier episodes.
> No, it did not rise to the level of watchability. I honestly think it
> only looks good to you by comparision to the total crap that's come
> before.
That's quite probably the case 8-)
> With the possible exception of Eli, I want them all dead. All
> of them, everybody on the ship, everybody at SGC, including Jack. It
> was about even with Sanctuary (current Sancutary, not beginning of this
> season or end of last season Sanctuary which was actually good), which
> I'm a hair's breadth away from stopping as well. My sig stands.
I gave up on Sanctuary about 2 or 3 episodes in. I'd probably have done
the same with SGU except that it's the only thing between L&O and
Numb3rs and I don't want to turn off the TV and miss the beginning of
Numb3rs. I have to set the oven timer between House and Castle as it is.
rwgibson13
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-508957.11391108112...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
>
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <drache-29FA55.10581208112...@news.eternal-september.org>,
> > erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9750B8.07460308112...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> > > Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Are you sure it doesn't just look good compared to the weeks of crap you
> > > > ate that I avoided?
>
> > > That may be the secret, but it was BETTER than any of the earlier
> > > episodes.
>
> > Gotcha. We'll see on Wednesday.
>
> Okay, I just watched it. Yes, it was better than the earlier episodes.
> No, it did not rise to the level of watchability. I honestly think it
> only looks good to you by comparision to the total crap that's come
> before. With the possible exception of Eli, I want them all dead. All
> of them, everybody on the ship, everybody at SGC, including Jack. It
> was about even with Sanctuary (current Sancutary, not beginning of this
> season or end of last season Sanctuary which was actually good), which
> I'm a hair's breadth away from stopping as well. My sig stands.
I'm gonna be honest. I TIVO SU just so I can fastforward through the
episodes waiting for someone to lay out Rush with a rifle butt, lead
pipe, candlestick, whatever. I wanna see him go through several
episodes with bruise marks and black eyes on his face. If this makes
me a bad person, so be it. I know he hasn't had as many episodes yet
as, say, Ben Linus on LOST, but part of the appeal of that character
(aside from the superior writing, acting, directing, etc :-) is that
the producers KNOW what a dick he is and have the other characters act
appropriately human towards him, even if it means that Mike Emerson
has to go through hell every third or fourth episode because of it.
I realize the other characters know Rush is their main key to
surviving, but I still think it's totally unrealistic for everyone
else to give generic shrugs to his general attitude. Back a couple
episodes ago when everyone (aside from, maybe Rush himself) were sure
they were going to die to the point of staging a death lottery, I
really wanted at least one of them to beat the crap out of him for
rushing them onto the Destiny in the first place. Seems to me, it
would've been the "human" thing to do. But, again, maybe that's just
me.
All that said, strangely enough, Rush is one of the few characters
they've actually given a purpose to. There are only a few of rest of
them who have any individualistic traits (even nasty ones!) assigned
to them. What's the use of having an ensemble cast, when you only
make decent use of four or five of them?
RWG (the good plots will come and go, but the characters are the
reason the audience will continue to wade through them)
Gisele
news:12e88c4a-da48-4ae2...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com:
> RWG (the good plots will come and go, but the characters are the
> reason the audience will continue to wade through them)
That the reason I don't like the show (so far). The characters suck big
time. The only one I like is Rush and that's because he has "something" to
do.
Gisele
Gisele
news:drache-B2E2B1....@news.eternal-september.org:
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9F9DC...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I just watched it. Yes, it was better than the earlier
>> episodes. No, it did not rise to the level of watchability. I
>> honestly think it only looks good to you by comparision to the total
>> crap that's come before.
> That's quite probably the case 8-)
>> With the possible exception of Eli, I want them all dead. All
>> of them, everybody on the ship, everybody at SGC, including Jack. It
>> was about even with Sanctuary (current Sancutary, not beginning of
>> this season or end of last season Sanctuary which was actually good),
>> which I'm a hair's breadth away from stopping as well. My sig
>> stands.
>
> I gave up on Sanctuary about 2 or 3 episodes in.
Me too. It was just too silly and Tapping's accent was a real
distraction. It was too fake sounding.
> I'd probably have
> done the same with SGU except that it's the only thing between L&O and
> Numb3rs and I don't want to turn off the TV and miss the beginning of
> Numb3rs. I have to set the oven timer between House and Castle as it
> is.
I did stop but I've giving it another chance. I have to watch the eps I
missed but can't bring myself to download them......<g>
Gisele
whodunit
joy/grief at finding the stone and learning about Daniel's 'death'
reaction was probably similar to something Jack felt--in fact, Joe may
have been receiving some of *Jack's* deep emotional feelings about
Daniel dying, which is why his reaction was so OTT.
whodunit
BTDT--remember Daniel at the waffle house with Oma? ;-)
trag
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-508957.11391108112...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
>
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
> > erilar <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote:
>
> > > In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9750B8.07460308112...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> > > Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Are you sure it doesn't just look good compared to the weeks of crap you
> > > > ate that I avoided?
>
> > > That may be the secret, but it was BETTER than any of the earlier
> > > episodes.
>
> > Gotcha. We'll see on Wednesday.
>
> Okay, I just watched it. Yes, it was better than the earlier episodes.
> No, it did not rise to the level of watchability. I honestly think it
> only looks good to you by comparision to the total crap that's come
> before. With the possible exception of Eli, I want them all dead.
During the episode "Earth" when they suggested that they might have a
plan which could get them back to Earth, I was thinking, "Yes, I know
the smart money is on it failing because then the show would change.
But. But, let it work. Ship this whole kit and caboodle of crap-
fest victims back to Earth and bring in a new crew. A crew I won't
wish dead every moment of the show. And try Rush for his crime."
Anim8rFSK
<486b2ae0-c727-4be8...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>,
trag <tr...@io.com> wrote:
Yeah, you're right, screw the "we're stuck" crap. Kill/rescue them all,
recast, get new writers, and just go exploring.
Michael Bowker
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9F9DC...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I just watched it. Yes, it was better than the earlier episodes.
>> No, it did not rise to the level of watchability. I honestly think it
>> only looks good to you by comparision to the total crap that's come
>> before.
> That's quite probably the case 8-)
>> With the possible exception of Eli, I want them all dead. All
>> of them, everybody on the ship, everybody at SGC, including Jack. It
>> was about even with Sanctuary (current Sancutary, not beginning of this
>> season or end of last season Sanctuary which was actually good), which
>> I'm a hair's breadth away from stopping as well. My sig stands.
>
> I gave up on Sanctuary about 2 or 3 episodes in. I'd probably have done
> the same with SGU except that it's the only thing between L&O and
> Numb3rs and I don't want to turn off the TV and miss the beginning of
> Numb3rs. I have to set the oven timer between House and Castle as it is.
>
Ok, is it just me or is there something faintly disturbing about setting
the oven timer for Castle?
erilar
Michael Bowker <mi...@rawbw.com> wrote:
It's the easiest way to remind me to turn the TV back on 8-) Do you
have a better solution?
--
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
Pete B
dra...@chibardun.net.invalid says...
> >
> > Ok, is it just me or is there something faintly disturbing about setting
> > the oven timer for Castle?
>
> It's the easiest way to remind me to turn the TV back on 8-) Do you
> have a better solution?
Get a modern tv which can turn on by itself ;)
Ken from Chicago
"Malcom "Mal" Reynolds" <atlas-...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:atlas-bugged-16E0...@aries.ka.weretis.net...
So what happens to the clone's mind?
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"whodunit" <whod...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:hdh9mp$uat$5...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>> In article <4AF87BB2...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
>> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
<snip>
>>> I propose that Everett Young be cloned from DNA found in his home on
>>> earth. Then a commstone could be used to transfer
>>> his brain software into the clone. He could then visit Emily in a body
>>> that looks like HIM!
>>
>> That's the premise of SG:Afterlife
>
> BTDT--remember Daniel at the waffle house with Oma? ;-)
Wow, that sounds like one of the metaphors Picard was spouting to an alien
that the universal translator couldn't translate.
-- Ken from Chicago
Anim8rFSK
Ken from Chicago
"erilar" <dra...@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote in message
news:drache-B2E2B1....@news.eternal-september.org...
> In article <ANIM8Rfsk-9F9DC...@news.dc1.easynews.com>,
> Anim8rFSK <ANIM...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I just watched it. Yes, it was better than the earlier episodes.
>> No, it did not rise to the level of watchability. I honestly think it
>> only looks good to you by comparision to the total crap that's come
>> before.
> That's quite probably the case 8-)
>> With the possible exception of Eli, I want them all dead. All
>> of them, everybody on the ship, everybody at SGC, including Jack. It
>> was about even with Sanctuary (current Sancutary, not beginning of this
>> season or end of last season Sanctuary which was actually good), which
>> I'm a hair's breadth away from stopping as well. My sig stands.
>
> I gave up on Sanctuary about 2 or 3 episodes in. I'd probably have done
> the same with SGU except that it's the only thing between L&O and
> Numb3rs and I don't want to turn off the TV and miss the beginning of
> Numb3rs. I have to set the oven timer between House and Castle as it is.
>
> --
> Erilar, biblioholic
You could watch the recording of that night's HEROES. It's gotten better
from its ... flaw ... start.
-- Ken from Chicago
Ken from Chicago
"rwgibson13" <rwgib...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:12e88c4a-da48-4ae2...@13g2000prl.googlegroups.com...
*** BEGIN REPLY ***
There's even videos focused on Ben Linus getting beat up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMhnYos_qbE
Rush is an entertaining character to watch even if he's not a likeable
person--and is clearly the most deeply defined character.
-- Ken from Chicago
Pete B
kwicker1...@comcast.net says...
It makes you a bad person!
Now, Chloe on the other hand ;)
Malcom "Mal" Reynolds
<b_OdnU5Y_rHkamLXnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@gigane
Rent it to the Windows Factory and hope
Windows 8 is better
jill
Let tivo get it for you and watch it when you have time. *grin*
Jill
--
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The colors blend, the edges soften. Swirling and mixing
we are becoming white light.
ji...@tuells.org
Michael Bowker
No I don't have a better solution. At least not a free one. But I
stand by my statement/question.
~consul
> they've actually given a purpose to. There are only a few of rest of
> them who have any individualistic traits (even nasty ones!) assigned
> to them. What's the use of having an ensemble cast, when you only
> make decent use of four or five of them?
I think that they are going the LOST route, where they have the ensemble made, but will slowly put them up front over 4 (so far) years.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
~consul
>>> Ok, is it just me or is there something faintly disturbing about setting
>>> the oven timer for Castle?
>> It's the easiest way to remind me to turn the TV back on 8-) Do you
>> have a better solution?
> Get a modern tv which can turn on by itself ;)
Goodness, use a watch alarm. Save all that electricty!
whodunit
channeling Jack O'Neil
whodunit
> In article <nbudnWeWPPJHamLX...@giganews.com>,
> "Ken from Chicago" <kwicker1...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "whodunit" <whod...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:hdh9mp$uat$5...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Malcom "Mal" Reynolds wrote:
>>>> In article <4AF87BB2...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us>,
>>>> Tim Bruening <tsbr...@pop.dcn.davis.ca.us> wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>>>>> I propose that Everett Young be cloned from DNA found in his home on
>>>>> earth. Then a commstone could be used to transfer
>>>>> his brain software into the clone. He could then visit Emily in a body
>>>>> that looks like HIM!
>>>> That's the premise of SG:Afterlife
>>> BTDT--remember Daniel at the waffle house with Oma? ;-)
>> Wow, that sounds like one of the metaphors Picard was spouting to an alien
>> that the universal translator couldn't translate.
>>
>> -- Ken from Chicago
>
> In "DoucheMock"
>
clouddreamer
Euro...
..
rwgibson13
> and thus rwgibson13 inscribed ...
>
> > All that said, strangely enough, Rush is one of the few characters
> > they've actually given a purpose to. There are only a few of rest of
> > them who have any individualistic traits (even nasty ones!) assigned
> > to them. What's the use of having an ensemble cast, when you only
> > make decent use of four or five of them?
>
> I think that they are going the LOST route, where they have the ensemble made, but will slowly put them up front over 4 (so far) years.
eh, LOST already had almost the entire cast spotlighted by the 8th
episode. Sure, they added great characters like Ben and Desmond later,
but (pretty much) you knew who and what the main 8 or 9 main
characters were about by the time Hurley got his spotlight in
"Numbers." And he was the audience surrogate (and effective comedy
relief) long before we ever got any real background on him.
In contrast, I think I have a pretty good handle on Young, Eli and
Rush (and maybe Chloe and the black guy - hell I can't even remember
his name!) at present. Everyone else remains cyphers to me. Jin didn't
even speak English until the fourth season and they found a way to
make him interesting even before he got an episode of his own. They
even had a breakout character (in John Locke) by the fourth episode.
Hard to match that, of course, due to Dave Fury, Jack Bender and the
always amazing Terry O'Quinn, but I don't see anyone on SGU even
coming close to an O'Neil or Carter or, hell, even a Rodney. They're
just...well...exceedingly BORING at this point.
I certainly understand the emphasis of the two series are different
and that accounts for some of it. The SGU people are more focused on
plot and that's all well and good. But they really need to start
ramping up the "it" factor of a few of the characters or no one is
going to care what happens to them.
RWG (right now, I'm much more interested in finding out what the ship
is all about and that's the main reason I continue to watch)
erilar
<85afcf2b-0f46-4c13...@z4g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
rwgibson13 <rwgib...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The SGU people are more focused on
> plot and that's all well and good.
Plot??????????
rwgibson13
> In article
>
> rwgibson13 <rwgibso...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > The SGU people are more focused on
> > plot and that's all well and good.
>
> Plot??????????
Obviously written before last night's episode :-)
RWG (which was pretty much straight soap opera stuff)