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George Avalos

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Nov 24, 2009, 4:51:03 AM11/24/09
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"Thanksgiving"
11-23-09 Heroes

5 stars (capitalism & private enterprise)

0-1 stars (socialism & collectivism)

-George

Ian J. Ball

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:53:20 AM11/24/09
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In article <mNidndFQK-UVMZbW...@supernews.com>,
"George Avalos" <george...@yahoo.com> wrote:

The Bennett Thanksgiving was a hoot. And the character of
Lydia-on-"Heroes" finally catching up to the behavior of the character
of Lydia-on-the-"interactive-story"-"Slow-Burn" was overdue. But, as
usual, the Sylar stuff just bugged me.

So:

3.9

--
"There's no business, like Cho business."
- Patrick Jane, "The Mentalist", 02/11/09

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Pelerin Galimatias

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:28:28 AM11/24/09
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In article <mNidndFQK-UVMZbW...@supernews.com>,
george...@yahoo.com says...
How many stars for (fascism & republicanism) ?
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David

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:13:08 AM11/24/09
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3.8

Enjoyable. Doesn't really grab me but this is probably the best they
can now do. I do want to compliment the directing: The contrast in
hues between the Bennet and Petrelli Thanksgivings, the colors at the
carnival, that scene in the cornfield - it's become a very pretty show
to look at.

And Gretchen only ran to the other side of the campus? So much for me
giving her credit.

suzee

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:23:48 AM11/24/09
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I was surprised, I thought she left school and went home.

Ian J. Ball

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Nov 24, 2009, 11:14:24 AM11/24/09
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In article <hegtpv$ndd$1...@news.eternal-september.org>,
suzee <suz...@imbris.com> wrote:

> David wrote:
> >
> > 3.8
> >
> > Enjoyable. Doesn't really grab me but this is probably the best they
> > can now do. I do want to compliment the directing: The contrast in
> > hues between the Bennet and Petrelli Thanksgivings, the colors at the
> > carnival, that scene in the cornfield - it's become a very pretty show
> > to look at.
> >
> > And Gretchen only ran to the other side of the campus? So much for me
> > giving her credit.
>
> I was surprised, I thought she left school and went home.

I thought they strongly implied that, yes. I believe Gretchen
specifically said she was going home to her family, with the implication
being that she was going to leave school.

Frankly, I consider this specific plot development from this episode to
be a bit of a 'retcon'... :/

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Davej

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:32:10 PM11/24/09
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3.0

Hmmm... is this "Tea Bag" guy with the mascara around his eyes a
complete idiot or what? Sylar pulls his head out of his own left butt
cheek just as expected. Claire can't resist some teen angst and self
mutilation at the dinner table. Didn't Hiro have his brain erased
several times already? In a show like this it is difficult to decide
whether this is aimless wandering or character development.

Jim Gysin

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:48:39 PM11/24/09
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George Avalos sent the following on 11/24/2009 3:51 AM:

3.7. The Petrelli gathering showed just how amazingly stupid that
particular story line has been all along. I'm also not thrilled to see
Gretchen back. And the whole time travel thing with Hiro falls
apart--as does every time travel plot in every show--once you realize
that he could simply go back to a time before he first met Samuel and
know to play things differently the second time around. In short, he
has no reason whatsoever to allow himself (or Charlie) to be held
hostage by Samuel's demands. Once he crossed that "changing the past"
bridge, there would be no reason to turn back.

--
Jim Gysin
Waukesha, WI

Gisele

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:32:44 PM11/24/09
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pgali...@hotmail.com (Pelerin Galimatias) wrote in
news:WridnSmh8pkRcJbW...@giganews.com:

> In article <mNidndFQK-UVMZbW...@supernews.com>,
> george...@yahoo.com says...
>>
>>"Thanksgiving"
>>11-23-09 Heroes
>>
>>5 stars (capitalism & private enterprise)
>>
>>0-1 stars (socialism & collectivism)
>>
>>-George
>>
>>
>>
> How many stars for (fascism & republicanism) ?

Lol...good one.

Gisele

Gisele

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:36:55 PM11/24/09
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"George Avalos" <george...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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Nothing wrong with socialism mixed with Capitalism per se like in
so many countries (Canada for one). I think you meant communism
and collectivism.

In any case,

1.0 Not much new here. I guess were waiting for the big Samuel
blow-out sale.......<g> Again, we have Nathan's thoughts taking
over Sylar's body. This is just too silly.

Gisele

brou...@aol.com

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Nov 24, 2009, 2:41:23 PM11/24/09
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3

not as good as last week but ok. but please please please kill off
sylar.

Penni

Martin Phipps

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:57:29 PM11/24/09
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4.0

I still like the show but I feel like they are running around in
circles.

Martin

Martin Phipps

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Nov 24, 2009, 6:59:31 PM11/24/09
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On Nov 25, 12:14 am, "Ian J. Ball" <ijball-NO_S...@mac.invalid> wrote:
> In article <hegtpv$nd...@news.eternal-september.org>,

>
>  suzee <suz...@imbris.com> wrote:
> > David wrote:
>
> > > 3.8
>
> > > Enjoyable. Doesn't really grab me but this is probably the best they
> > > can now do. I do want to compliment the directing: The contrast in
> > > hues between the Bennet and Petrelli Thanksgivings, the colors at the
> > > carnival, that scene in the cornfield - it's become a very pretty show
> > > to look at.
>
> > > And Gretchen only ran to the other side of the campus? So much for me
> > > giving her credit.
>
> > I was surprised, I thought she left school and went home.
>
> I thought they strongly implied that, yes. I believe Gretchen
> specifically said she was going home to her family, with the implication
> being that she was going to leave school.
>
> Frankly, I consider this specific plot development from this episode to
> be a bit of a 'retcon'...  :/

Her parents didn't want to waste the $40 000 tuition either.

Martin

jewahe

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Nov 24, 2009, 8:11:02 PM11/24/09
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4.85.

Truly an amazing episode.

--
JWH

MDH

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:28:06 PM11/24/09
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"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in news:ijball-NO_SPAM-
6CE91F.081...@nntp.aioe.org:

> Frankly, I consider this specific plot development from this episode to
> be a bit of a 'retcon'... :/

Oh c'mon, maybe they didn't write it well in that episode, but these were
in the can long enough that they could have made the change. Maybe
Gretchen had a change of heart and just moved out.

MDH

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:29:48 PM11/24/09
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Davej <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:b9f6e954-114b-499e-8628-
85f2d8...@e31g2000vbm.googlegroups.com:

> Hmmm... is this "Tea Bag" guy with the mascara around his eyes a
> complete idiot or what?

No, seems rather smart to me.

> Sylar pulls his head out of his own left butt cheek just as expected.

Yeah, so?

> Claire can't resist some teen angst and self mutilation at the dinner
> table.

Yeah, but proved a point. Seems like she's saying she finally gives up on
being "normal"

> Didn't Hiro have his brain erased several times already?

Nope, just once, and we don't yet know what has happened this time.

Arthur Lipscomb

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Nov 24, 2009, 9:40:59 PM11/24/09
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"Jim Gysin" <jimg...@geemail.com> wrote in message
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Which is one of the most frustrating aspects of Hiro's character every
season. Although this season may be the worse.

Dragon Lady

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:01:47 PM11/24/09
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"Ian J. Ball" <ijball-...@mac.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <mNidndFQK-UVMZbW...@supernews.com>,
> "George Avalos" <george...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> "Thanksgiving"
>> 11-23-09 Heroes
>>
>> 5 stars (capitalism & private enterprise)
>> 0-1 stars (socialism & collectivism)
>
> The Bennett Thanksgiving was a hoot. And the character of
> Lydia-on-"Heroes" finally catching up to the behavior of the character
> of Lydia-on-the-"interactive-story"-"Slow-Burn" was overdue. But, as
> usual, the Sylar stuff just bugged me.
>
> So:
>
> 3.9

It's the Hiro stuff that bugs me. Why doesn't he use his brain and do to
Samuel what he did to Adam, telling him "I'll be back when you're ready to
talk."


Dragon Lady

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:03:25 PM11/24/09
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"suzee" <suz...@imbris.com> wrote in message
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That's what she said she was doing. Looks like mom and dad sent her back.


Dragon Lady

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Nov 24, 2009, 10:06:01 PM11/24/09
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"MDH" <n...@email4u.com> wrote in message
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Or realized she couldn't tell her parents what happened without being shut
up in the nut hut.


Davej

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Nov 25, 2009, 7:40:52 PM11/25/09
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On Nov 24, 8:29 pm, MDH <n...@email4u.com> wrote:

> Davej <galt...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hmmm... is this "Tea Bag" guy with the mascara around his
> > eyes a complete idiot or what?
>
> No, seems rather smart to me.  

Not when you consider what he wants. He wants to know how to create
earthquakes which would kill "millions of people."

> > Claire can't resist some teen angst and self mutilation at the dinner
> > table.
>
> Yeah, but proved a point. Seems like she's saying she finally gives up on
> being "normal"

She's perfectly normal when she isn't digging a knife into herself or
throwing herself out a window.

Pete B

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:08:20 PM11/25/09
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No matter where they live, there are always good times to be had at the
Bennet Household! *g*

Pete B

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:14:01 PM11/25/09
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In article <WridnSmh8pkRcJbW...@giganews.com>,
pgali...@hotmail.com says...

> In article <mNidndFQK-UVMZbW...@supernews.com>,
> george...@yahoo.com says...
> >
> >"Thanksgiving"
> >11-23-09 Heroes
> >
> >5 stars (capitalism & private enterprise)
> >
> >0-1 stars (socialism & collectivism)
> >
> >-George
> >
> >
> >
> How many stars for (fascism & republicanism) ?
>

You can't have negative stars.

Pete B

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Nov 25, 2009, 9:15:52 PM11/25/09
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In article <hmtng5pi9t0d3ig0h...@4ax.com>, dimlan17
@yahoo.com says...

> On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:51:03 -0800, "George Avalos"
> <george...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >"Thanksgiving"
> >11-23-09 Heroes
> >
> >5 stars (capitalism & private enterprise)
> >
> >0-1 stars (socialism & collectivism)
>
> 3.8
>
> Enjoyable. Doesn't really grab me but this is probably the best they
> can now do. I do want to compliment the directing: The contrast in
> hues between the Bennet and Petrelli Thanksgivings, the colors at the
> carnival, that scene in the cornfield - it's become a very pretty show
> to look at.

So they can afford to hire a color grader :)

Bob(but not THAT Bob)

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Nov 26, 2009, 2:46:06 AM11/26/09
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George Avalos wrote:
>
> "Thanksgiving"
> 11-23-09 Heroes
>
> 5 stars (capitalism & private enterprise)
>
> 0-1 stars (socialism & collectivism)
>
> -George


3.5 - the .5 is for the return of my favorite character - Mr Muggles!

So first it was Sylar-in-Parkman's-head, now it's Nathan-in-Sylar's-head
- them writers is just full of great ideas!

MDH

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Nov 29, 2009, 8:03:23 PM11/29/09
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Davej <gal...@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:e39c8c28-2ba1-4285...@s15g2000yqs.googlegroups.com:

>> Yeah, but proved a point. Seems like she's saying she finally gives
>> up on being "normal"
>
> She's perfectly normal when she isn't digging a knife into herself or
> throwing herself out a window.

Or gets in a fight? accidentily cuts her self on glass? Trips and fall,
get's punched? Thousands of ways her power would display at unwanted times.

Donald Cavender

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Nov 29, 2009, 10:53:48 PM11/29/09
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:) You made a really good point, Claire is really accident prone. Lucky
for Claire she is indestructible, because any normal human would have
been dead a long time ago.

Donald Cavender

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Nov 29, 2009, 10:58:01 PM11/29/09
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I agree time travel is the ultimate power, it should never been in a
show; time travel opens way too many possible plot wholes.

Jim Gysin

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Nov 29, 2009, 11:40:10 PM11/29/09
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Arthur Lipscomb sent the following on 11/24/2009 8:40 PM:

> "Jim Gysin" <jimg...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> news:heh6a8$89c$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> George Avalos sent the following on 11/24/2009 3:51 AM:
>>> "Thanksgiving"
>>> 11-23-09 Heroes
>>>
>>> 5 stars (capitalism & private enterprise)
>>>
>>> 0-1 stars (socialism & collectivism)
>> 3.7. The Petrelli gathering showed just how amazingly stupid that
>> particular story line has been all along. I'm also not thrilled to see
>> Gretchen back. And the whole time travel thing with Hiro falls apart--as
>> does every time travel plot in every show--once you realize that he could
>> simply go back to a time before he first met Samuel and know to play
>> things differently the second time around. In short, he has no reason
>> whatsoever to allow himself (or Charlie) to be held hostage by Samuel's
>> demands. Once he crossed that "changing the past" bridge, there would be
>> no reason to turn back.
>>
> Which is one of the most frustrating aspects of Hiro's character every
> season. Although this season may be the worse.

What makes it especially aggravating is the fact that Hiro *himself*
pointed out this mulligan option when he commented to Mohinder about the
fact that his first attempt to save Mohinder's life failed because he
arrived too late. But whereas he apparently won't try again where
Charlie is concerned, he told Mohinder that not only did he try again in
his case, but that he made sure to bring that bulletproof vest with him
in order to change the outcome.

Martin Phipps

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Nov 30, 2009, 6:01:30 AM11/30/09
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On Nov 30, 11:58 am, Donald Cavender <doncaven...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Arthur Lipscomb wrote:
>
> > "Jim Gysin" <jimgy...@geemail.com> wrote in message
> show; time travel opens way too many possible plot holes.

Actually a show about time travel could be interesting if it had well
established rules. Because time travel doesn't exist (yet?) in real
life writers follow whatever rules make sense to them personally.
Multiple writers means multiple rules and contradictions.

Martin

~consul

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Dec 1, 2009, 8:31:48 PM12/1/09
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Fashion question. Where can one get the type of carnival 3/4 coat that Samuel is wearing?
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"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>
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