Has China Won?

[thinbluemime2]

Previously on, "How Far Behind Are We?"
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Has China Won? | Kishore Mahbubani | John Mearsheimer | Tom Switzer
279,140 views•Premiered May 11, 2020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnkC7GXmLdo



CIS Executive Director, Tom Switzer interviews John Mearsheimer and
Kishore Mahubani to ask Has China Won?

At a time when tensions are running high, CIS Executive Director Tom
Switzer asked Has China Won? Our debate between John Mearsheimer and
Kishore Mahbubani, two of the world’s leading foreign policy
intellectuals. Covid-19 has greatly raised tensions between China and
the West. Washington and its allies express outrage at the Communist
regime’s opacity concerning the outbreak of the coronavirus. Meanwhile,
fears are growing that a pandemic that began in the Chinese city of
Wuhan may end by increasing Beijing’s international influence and power.

Kishore Mahbubani is author of Has China Won? The Chinese Challenge to
American Primacy (just out, PublicAffairs) A former Singaporean
ambassador to the United Nations (twice), he was the founding dean of
the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy. He was a guest of CIS in
September 2018.

John Mearsheimer is author of The Great Delusion: Liberal Dreams and
International Realities (Yale University Press, 2019) and The Tragedy of
Great Power Politics (Norton, 2014.) He is professor of Political
Science at the University of Chicago. He was a guest of CIS in August 2019.

Tom Switzer, has written for the Wall Street Journal, New York Times,
Washington Post, The Spectator, Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, The
National Interest, The American Interest and The American Conservative.
He has also appeared on CNN, CNBC, Bloomberg, Al Jazeera, Sky News, SBS,
Seven, Nine, Ten and ABC radio and television. He hosts Between the
Lines on the ABC's Radio National.

[thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN]

On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 4:53:10 PM UTC-4, thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN wrote:
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> Has China Won? | Kishore Mahbubani | John Mearsheimer | Tom Switzer
> 279,140 views•Premiered May 11, 2020
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnkC7GXmLdo

Has China Already Won? You Bet
Enrique Dans Aug 27, 2020
https://www.forbes.com/sites/enriquedans/2020/08/27/has-china-has-already-won-youbet/#6c880072377f
https://www.fastcompany.com/90544259/eric-schmidt-china-could-be-ais-superpower-if-we-dont-act-now


On Tuesday, former Google CEO Eric Schmidt spoke at the Bipartisan Policy Center about artificial intelligence and global leadership, concluding that China will pretty much be running things from now on.

This is a position I have been defending for quite some time: Beijing’s approach, which we in the West consider unacceptable, has positioned China as a world leader in the technologies that will dictate the future of humanity, while the rest of the world sat back and watched or, in the case of the United States during the Trump administration, took steps backwards.

“China is on its way to surpass us in many, many ways, and they’re cleverly run in a way that’s different from the way we would ever want to run. We need to take them seriously… they’re going to end up with a bigger economy, more R&D investments, better quality research, wider applications of technology, and a stronger computing infrastructure.”

The Chinese government has long asserted, repeated at Communist Party congresses, that its model is not only different, but superior, and that the time has come for China to take center stage and make a bigger contribution to humanity. From a purely strategic point of view, China’s form of government and the reinvention of state capitalism carried out by Xi Jinping has produced any number of large, decisive and top-down initiatives, which implies a much higher degree of efficiency. In Schmidt’s words:

“The Chinese model is a vision of high-tech authoritarianism which is incompatible with the way America works. I’m not saluting it, I’m not endorsing it in any way, but I’m telling you to take it seriously (…) It has benefits from the standpoint of the strategic execution.”

Schmidt believes a world where China controls artificial intelligence and trade would not be a nice place for many of us, and highlights the need for a long-term, well-funded plan to counter Beijing’s hegemony by doubling R&D spending over the next five years. He adds that the way to fight China is not through a trade war, sanctions or executive orders, which is the approach taken by the Trump administration, but instead by moving faster and leaving China behind. Right now, the problem is not only that China is able to develop technology faster, more efficiently and with less resistance, but also that it is enjoying success in attracting and retaining talent.

These are issues that I’ve been discussing for a long time now, and they have a lot to do with the comments made a few days ago by Tim Wu in his article in The New York Times: China has behaved unilaterally unfairly, giving it a huge advantage in terms of leadership over the rest of the world, along with access to global markets while keeping its own out of reach.

Schmidt’s views are gaining wider traction, but the problem is that China has already won: the macroeconomic data has yet to prove it, but it has become the world’s leader in generating data to feed its algorithms, has more artificial intelligence patents, and is streets ahead in implementing cutting-edge developments. A surveillance society where resistance to planned and centralized management is impossible, a social contract accepted by much of the population in return for improved economic welfare.

As democrats, we might not like to live under such an authoritarian regime, but we might as well start accepting that to all intents and purposes, China has already won.







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"For the United States to effectively compete against China, the USA must increasingly adopt many of the authoritarian methods employed by China" - mime with the crystal balls





https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/08/27/china-tech-facebook-google/
All this confirms the worst fears of Silicon Valley’s tech elite: that Google’s progressive laissez-faire model is no match for the state-supported growth of the Chinese system. And that the only way to stay competitive is to drop the progressive act and embrace deeper ties with the U.S. government.












https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoXu6QmxpJE

[irishra...@gmail.com]

On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 4:53:10 PM UTC-4, thinbluemime CAN"T KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN wrote:

> Previously on, "How Far Behind Are We?"
> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv/eytBG0B47S0/3W_sYBhzAQAJ
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> Has China Won?

Not unless Alzheimer Joe and the left wing Socialist/Communist Democrats
with the election in November, 2020.

Irish Mike

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[trotsky]

What?

[trotsky]

On 8/31/20 2:34 AM, FPP wrote:
> On 8/31/20 1:20 AM, irishra...@gmail.com wrote:
>> On Monday, August 17, 2020 at 4:53:10 PM UTC-4, thinbluemime CAN"T
>> KEEP A GOOD MIME DOWN wrote:
>>> Previously on, "How Far Behind Are We?"
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.tv/eytBG0B47S0/3W_sYBhzAQAJ
>>>
>>> Has China Won?
>>
>> Not unless Alzheimer Joe and the left wing Socialist/Communist Democrats
>> with the election in November, 2020.
>>
>> Irish Mike
>>
>
> Oh, look... the cicada is back.
>

I sure hope we can with the election!