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Lisa or Jeff

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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Was there any season finale for shows like Green Acres or the Beverly
Hillbillies--any sort of closure or wrap up?

IIRC, Petticoat Jct did have sort of a closure--June Lockart finally
convinced Homer Bedloe to give up trying to shut down the railroad.

Puz1

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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hancock4 wrote:

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>Was there any season finale for shows like Green Acres or the Beverly
>Hillbillies--any sort of closure or wrap up?
>

Not that I can recall; the season they all were cancelled [71?], CBS pretty
much cleaned house. However, the Clampetts and the Douglases were pretty
stationary, so lack of closure wasn't so bad.

But, poor Hogan and his Heroes were still fighting WWII when we last left them
that same season... :-[


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Jaclyn Mussehl

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Jun 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/12/99
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Lisa or Jeff wrote:
>
> Was there any season finale for shows like Green Acres or the Beverly
> Hillbillies--any sort of closure or wrap up?
>
> IIRC, Petticoat Jct did have sort of a closure--June Lockart finally
> convinced Homer Bedloe to give up trying to shut down the railroad.

I think you mean *series* finale, and as far as I know, Green Acres did
not have one. Petticoat Junction didn't have one either. The last
episode was the one where Betty Jo wanted to get a job but Steve didn't
want her to because someone had to stay home with the baby, so she
opened a daycare center in the hotel, so that she could just take care
of her baby along with a bunch of other ones. As for the part about
Homer Bedloe giving up shutting down the railroad - I've never seen that
episode, so I don't know the exact circumstances, but it wasn't the last
episode - I believe I heard that the character of Homer left the series
before it ended.

Jaclyn

TGBromley

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Jun 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/13/99
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Once the syndication market started to develop, producers shied away from doing
"final" episodes in the belief that such closure would hurt the rerun potential
of the series. (Such was the case with "The Fugitive", which aired a final
show that became the most watched episode of any series, and held that record
for years until either "MASH" or "Dallas" unseated it.)

Plus, as is still the case, many series wrap production for the season well in
advance of the networks' announcements of the fall lineups, so unless the
decision is made early to end a series (as with "The Nanny", "Mad About You"
and "Home Improvement" among others this season), there is often no way of
knowing that the last episode filmed/taped will ultimately be the series
finale.

Last-minute decisions have sometimes led to cliffhanger endings going
unresolved (i.e. "ALF") or else series that thought they were dead filming
endings then being renewed ("Sledge Hammer" found a clever way to resolve this
problem).

Tom Bromley
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Lisa or Jeff

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Jun 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/15/99
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> IIRC, "Sledge Hammer" was well aware it was painting itself into a
> corner with that episode, and was well aware that renewal was on
> the bubble. Agreed the Season 2 opener was very clever.

I really liked the first season of "Hammer", but something got lost
in the second. I think the pilot was the best episode of them all.

ShadZ

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Jun 16, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/16/99
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In article <19990612215034...@ng66.aol.com>,

tgbr...@aol.comNOSPAM (TGBromley) wrote:
>
> Last-minute decisions have sometimes led to cliffhanger endings going
> unresolved (i.e. "ALF") or else series that thought they were dead
> filming
> endings then being renewed ("Sledge Hammer" found a clever way to
> resolve this
> problem).

The ALF cliffhanger was eventually resolved in a TV movie about 5 years
later . . .

While we are on the topic, one of the cliffhangers from the final
episode of "Soap" was resolved in an episode of Benson. But the
cliffhanger from the final episode of Benson was never resolved
anywhere . . .

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Brent McKee

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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Didn't Petticoat Junction end with an episode in which Betty Jo announced
that she was going to have another baby? The series ended or was cancelled
a year or two before Green Acres and Beverly Hillbillies, along with Gomer
Pyle. The decision to get rid of the latter was very sudden - they were
doing well in the ratings but Fred Silverman who was in charge of
programming at CBS at the time decided that the network needed a more urban
and sophisticated feel to it, so he cancelled all the network's rural based
shows - Green Acres, Beverly Hillbillies, Mayberry RFD and Hee Haw.

Incidentally, a cast list of Petticoat Junction is rather interesting. The
oldest daughter (Billie Jo) was played by three women (Jeanine Riley
[1963-65], Gunilla Hutton [1965-66], and Meredith MacRae [1966-1970]),
while Bobby Jo was played by two women (Pat Woodell [1963-1965], and Lori
Saunders [1965-70]. One of the early actresses was the subject of a CBS
memo from James Aubrey that included the words "bigger tits". Betty Jo was
played throughout by Linda Kaye Henning, daughter of producer Paul Henning.

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Roj Avon

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:47:40 GMT, ShadZ <sh...@rocketmail.com> wrote:

>In article <19990612215034...@ng66.aol.com>,
> tgbr...@aol.comNOSPAM (TGBromley) wrote:

>
>While we are on the topic, one of the cliffhangers from the final
>episode of "Soap" was resolved in an episode of Benson. But the
>cliffhanger from the final episode of Benson was never resolved
>anywhere . . .

I kind of remember this......it ended with Benson and The Gov. on
election night running against each other right. I thought that was
actually a pretty good way to end it.

I loved that show.
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Roj Avon

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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>In article <19990612215034...@ng66.aol.com>,

>TGBromley <tgbr...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>>Last-minute decisions have sometimes led to cliffhanger endings going
>>unresolved (i.e. "ALF")
>


The ultimate episode like this ever was the final Blake's 7.

Jaclyn

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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Brent McKee wrote:
>
> Didn't Petticoat Junction end with an episode in which Betty Jo announced
> that she was going to have another baby?

That episode happened either in the last or second-last season.
However, Linda Kaye Henning decided that she didn't want to do another
pregnancy storyline, and so that storyline was just dropped with no
explanation.

Jaclyn

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Matt Ackeret

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Jun 17, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/17/99
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In article <C8EBE5EA2C5382CF.21337A91...@lp.airnews.net>,

Roj Avon <fe...@airmail.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <19990612215034...@ng66.aol.com>,
>>TGBromley <tgbr...@aol.comNOSPAM> wrote:
>>>Last-minute decisions have sometimes led to cliffhanger endings going
>>>unresolved (i.e. "ALF")
>>
>The ultimate episode like this ever was the final Blake's 7.

But that wasn't really a cliffhanger (though from everything I've read it
wasn't supposed to be the last episode -- someone else will come back with
their opinion that it was)... but there was a book continuation anyway.

Though it is close to the best last episode ever of any show.
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Good ol TSntana97

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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fe...@airmail.net (Roj Avon) wrote in article
<0E31ECD275BFA185.F038522E...@lp.airnews.net>:

>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 1999 23:47:40 GMT, ShadZ <sh...@rocketmail.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <19990612215034...@ng66.aol.com>,
> > tgbr...@aol.comNOSPAM (TGBromley) wrote:
>
> >
> >While we are on the topic, one of the cliffhangers from the final
> >episode of "Soap" was resolved in an episode of Benson. But the
> >cliffhanger from the final episode of Benson was never resolved
> >anywhere . . .
>
> I kind of remember this......it ended with Benson and The Gov. on
> election night running against each other right. I thought that was
> actually a pretty good way to end it.
>
> I loved that show.

It was better when it originally aired when the series was still intact
including the little "epilogues" (a la Andy Griffith) at the end. Especially
for this particular episode. The ending showed clips featuring the evolution
of Benson's success in the govenor's mansion all the way to the "...and the
winner is..." ending.

Would anyone happen to know if there is a video collection of Benson uncut with
the complete opening credits (not the reduced ones that are used in
syndication) and the little "epilogues" at the end?


TSntana97

Marvin Morley

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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What I hated about the SOAP cliffhanger involving Jessica being resolved
on BENSON several years later was that even though she comes to Benson
claiming to be an angel and has to do a good deed, at the end she tells
him that she really isn't dead but in a coma somewhere in South America.
So obviously, she WAS shot in front of that firering squad but was only
wounded. I later found out the reason they did this was because one of
the writers of BENSON wanted to do a reunion special that brought
together the casts of both shows, mainly to try up some of SOAP's loose
ends, but series creator Susan Harris would not agree to do it. The idea
kept bouncing around from time to time thinking that SH would change her
mind but with the death of Cathryn Damon (SP), who played Mary Campbell
and Arthur Petterson who played The Major, the idea was dropped. A shame
I would loved to have seen such a reunion show. One of the features on
my SOAP site is the question in my guestbook which I ask "How would you
have resolved Season 4's cliffhangers?" Some of the responses have been
great!

Marvin
VISIT MY SOAP PAGE- WWW.GOPLAY.COM/M-MORLEY


Dan Tropea

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Jun 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/19/99
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U think now the person that really has to push for a
Soap Reunion is Billy Chrystal. I think he has the
clout to make it happen. I think focusing on Chrystal's
character and bringing in his stepdad and aunt along with
his 2 brothers would be enough to be a good reunion.


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Dennis Handly

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Dan Tropea (tro...@webtv.net) wrote:
: I think focusing on Chrystal's

: character and bringing in his stepdad and aunt along with
: his 2 brothers would be enough to be a good reunion.

3 brothers. Did you forget the foul mouth dummy? :-)

dtropea

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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On 22 Jun 1999 13:16:18 GMT dha...@cup.hp.com (Dennis Handly) wrote:
> Dan Tropea (tro...@webtv.net) wrote:
> : I think focusing on Chrystal's
> : character and bringing in his stepdad and aunt along with
> : his 2 brothers would be enough to be a good reunion.
>

Well lets be technical. Jody had really one biological brother
who was Burt's sidekick. The other brother who had a foul mouthed
dummy was his stepbrother. The stepbrother was very delusional
so i would not consider the dummy as a brother - step or otherwise.

> 3 brothers. Did you forget the foul mouth dummy? :-)

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Marvin Morley

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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And if ya wanna get REALLY technical, it was revealed in he 4th season
that Danny is really a Tate as Chester is his father! So Jodie and Danny
are only half-brothers.

Confused? You won't be.....

Marvin


Dan Tropea

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Marvin Morley wrote:
>
> And if ya wanna get REALLY technical, it was revealed in he 4th season
> that Danny is really a Tate as Chester is his father! So Jodie and Danny
> are only half-brothers.
>

I completely forgot about that. So Danny and Jodie would technically
be half-brothers and cousins by marriage. Also didn't Jodie's mother
have a child with the alien Burt? Which meant Jodie had a alien-half
brother.

Finally to really confuse matters in the last episode or 2 Jodie
believed that he was his uncle.

> Confused? You won't be.....
>

On the next episode of Soap.

> Marvin

Joemovie

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Wow, a soap thread I missed?

>I completely forgot about that. So Danny and Jodie would technically
>be half-brothers and cousins by marriage.

According to the soap family tree, Mary had Chester's baby, Danny, and then had
Jodie (not with Chester)...she also had the alien baby (with Burt, or horny
alien burt).

>Finally to really confuse matters in the last episode or 2 Jodie
>believed that he was his uncle.
>

Who's uncle? If I recall correctly, in the last few episodes, Jodie believes he
is an old Jewish man (kind of always wondered what would have happened with
that if the show didn't end...a disapointing ending in deed)...

I'm currently watching the series on Columbia House home video, just received
volume 8 yesterday, with episodes 28-31, and (after watching the full series on
Comedy Central a year or two ago) I realize that the earlier years were far,
far better (there was something about the show back in the first and even
second season lost in the third and fourth...a kind of humor, Dutch telling
Eunice she's pretty and too bad he isn't a rapist...stuff like that)...

Dan Tropea

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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Joemovie i thought the old Jewish guy was also Jodie's
uncle. I could be misremembering.

What a terrific series that was. I also remember Dutch
he was one of my favs on the show.

That really was an exceptional ensemble cast they had.
Virtually every cast member went off to either do movies
or other series. The only two that didn't really do well
after was Burt's son - the one with the puppet and the
one who played Mary Cambell (although now she is dead).

Joemovie

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Jun 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/22/99
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>Joemovie

Dan, call me Joe...

>i thought the old Jewish guy was also Jodie's
>uncle. I could be misremembering.
>

Nope, Jodie was (I'm sketchy on the exacts) hypnotized to believe he was an old
jewish guy, and so he remained through the rest of the series...

>The only two that didn't really do well
>after was Burt's son - the one with the puppet

Jay Johnson (who played Chuck and Bob) has been in (according to the IMDB)...oh
heck, I'm not writing it, here follow the link
http://us.imdb.com/Name?Johnson,+Jay+(II)

Dan Tropea

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Joemovie wrote:

> Jay Johnson (who played Chuck and Bob) has been in (according to the IMDB)...oh
> heck, I'm not writing it, here follow the link
> http://us.imdb.com/Name?Johnson,+Jay+(II)

Thanks Joe. I noticed that the last thing he was in was back in 1995.
Also i noticed that they didn't give his date of birth. I figure
that in 1979 he was around 25 when he landed that role. Which would
put him at 45.

BTW is Jay Johnson a real ventrilquist or was that all staged?

Marvin Morley

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Jun 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM6/23/99
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Yes, Jay is a real ventriliqist. I remember seeing him on a epsiode of
Mrs. Columbo as a killer who had a split personality and was told to do
it by his dummy-SPOOOKY!!

Also, while we are on the slightly OT of WATN regarding SOAP stars, any
idea what has happened to the following:

JIMMY BAIO (BILLY TATE)-Last seen by me in a pilot for a FACTS OF LIFE
spinoff about boys at a military school.

DIANA CANOVA (CORRINE TATE)- The last time I "heard" her she was in a
revival of Stephen Sondheim's COMPANY.

BTW, Rod Roddy, the announcer, has been the announcer for THE PRICE IS
RIGHT for years now, but has anyone noticed has t sounds NOTHING like he
did on SOAP???? He sounds more hyperacive and his voice sounds more
higher-pitched.

Marvin
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