Idiot "Christian" woman on Wife Swap...
Glennsim
Christian, not "hateful" like some Christians can be outside of church,
and that her pastor would get angry if she was disrespectful to others,
and then she goes off on the lesbian, who was really nice to her kids,
and calls her a "sexual predator."
She obviously does not embody the tenants of Christianity. I'm a
Christian, and this is the reason I didn't go to church for a long time
- Sunday morning Christians, hypocrits the rest of the week...
deer...@mindspring.com
Glennsim wrote:
>
> It really pisses me off that this woman says she's not a real
> Christian, not "hateful" like some Christians can be outside of church,
> and that her pastor would get angry if she was disrespectful to others,
> and then she goes off on the lesbian, who was really nice to her kids,
> and calls her a "sexual predator."
Oh, yeah, she had a nerve-and-three-fourths carrying on like
this--especially given she is in an interracial marriage.
Funny--there are still a fair amount of folks out there as
intolerant of that kind of thing as she is of lesbians, but since
she's so godly and moralistic, I guess she feels more justified in
her ignorance and intolerance...
> She obviously does not embody the tenants of Christianity. I'm a
> Christian, and this is the reason I didn't go to church for a long time
> - Sunday morning Christians, hypocrits the rest of the week...
Werd.
C.
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tree...@yahoo.com
told the female couple that they were "depraved" and that there family
wasn't a real "family unit". She can think what she wants...what moral
person spouts that bigoted crap outloud.
Annie
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> She can think what she wants...what moral
> person spouts that bigoted crap outloud.
Yeah, and not only was she annoying but her husband just sat there and
didn't defend the woman at all.
Stephanie James Hoffpauir
#1 - the husband didn't take up for the lesbian woman at ALL and he was
the one who lived with her, not his wife.
#2 - at the beginning of the show Chris (the crazy rich wife) talked
about how she just followed the "golden rule" blah blah..but it doesn't
take her long to get into the lesbian's home ant that "golden rule"
went out the window.
They make Republicans look bad ;-)
Uniblab
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thoroughly disgusted by that woman. Christian, my ass. Does she truly think
that Christ would have treated the lesbian couple that way, reducing one of
them to tears?
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RichA
wrote:
You do know this garbage is scripted, right idiot?
-Rich
deer...@mindspring.com
tree...@yahoo.com wrote:
> She can think what she wants...what moral
> person spouts that bigoted crap outloud.
Proof once again there's a big difference between spouting morality
and _being_ moral.
C.
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judson
People this is EXTREME small town America. It spread through this
homophobic town like fire in a hen house.
I know 3 things. ABC forced the gay issue. The straight man tried so
hard and had a break down. At the end the gay man was so rude and
hateful.
There are 3 open gay men here and a few lesbians here. Gay bash is a
sport here. To be out is a crime. The church rules here.
Since I am out, I kind of live in fear of this show. I know the out
come and pray for safety.
Donna B
<cugh3...@eGroups.com>, "judson" <bootsp...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> WIFE SWAP came to SE Oklahoma. They lied to the straight couple!
What makes you think they lied to Straight Kris & her husband?
> People this is EXTREME small town America. It spread through this
> homophobic town like fire in a hen house.
>
> I know 3 things. ABC forced the gay issue.
How did they force the issue?
> The straight man tried so hard and had a break down.
What kind of a breakdown?
> At the end the gay man was so rude and hateful.
What gay man? Are you talking about a different episode of WIFE SWAP that
the rest of the people here?
> There are 3 open gay men here and a few lesbians here. Gay bash is a
> sport here. To be out is a crime. The church rules here.
>
> Since I am out, I kind of live in fear of this show. I know the out
> come and pray for safety.
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/932/932_wife_swap.asp
Q&A/ Rough trade
When TV’s Wife Swap landed an ultraconservative Texas homemaker in a
two-mommy household in Arizona, the homophobia flowed hot and heavy. How did
it feel to be in the direct path of the bigotry? The Advocate talks to
lesbian mom Nicki Boone
By Dave White
An Advocate.com exclusive posted February 8, 2005
It was only a matter of time before ABC’s Wife Swap went there. In this
week’s episode (airing Wednesday, February 9, at 10 p.m. Eastern/Pacific),
liberal-leaning Arizona lesbian Kris Luffey trades places with Texas
conservative Christian Kris Gillespie. And while Gillespie’s staid, taciturn
husband, Brian, and their three teenage children are depicted as taking the
lesbian invasion of their upscale Texas home mostly in stride, Luffey’s
partner, Nicki Boone, her 8-year-old daughter, Elizabeth, and the virulently
antigay Gillespie didn’t exactly “somehow form a family.” Boone spoke to
Advocate.com about her 10-day ordeal with the perfect Christian mom [Kris
Gillespie has refused to do press about the show]:
Q/ I just want to say before we get started that I’m from Texas myself, and
while there are plenty of antigay Christians out there, there are also a
sizeable minority who would have treated y’all a whole lot nicer than Kris
Gillespie did.
Yes, but ABC wouldn’t have wanted that, right?
Q/ True. Fireworks make better TV. How long where you swapped?
Kris wasn’t with us very long. About 10 days.
Q/ Five days of your routine and then five days where she made all the
rules. Did you have any expectations going in?
I knew what I was getting into. I assumed we’d be paired with an extreme
opposite. I figured it would be a conservative heterosexual couple. We were
actually just hoping to be seen as a gay family on TV, to show people that
our lives are not very different from anyone else’s.
Q/ What sort of changes took place in your family after the show taped?
Well [laughs] I mow the grass now. Of course the show was fixated on that.
What you didn’t see, what wasn’t explained well, was that I do all the
inside housework already. But I’ve stepped up and I do it sometimes. And we
did learn a little more about how to understand one another.
Q/ Have you seen any changes in your daughter, Elizabeth?
No. We were hoping for some [laughs]! We were hoping she’d stop the “I hate
you! You’re mean!” stuff and see that all parents are “mean.” But she didn’t
see that. Kris Gillespie was nothing but kind to her.
Q/ Did Elizabeth have any ideas about what religious people were like before
this?
Yes and no. We’re religious ourselves. We attend church every week, and my
family is also very Christian. We’re just not fundamentalists.
Q/ Oh, wow, see, because the episode never mentions that y’all go to church
too.
No they didn’t. But whatever. I know I go.
Q/ Did Kris Gillespie ever inspire genuine fear in you?
No, I’m not afraid of people like her. Kris [Luffey], on the other hand,
there were times when she was. She and [Gillespie’s husband] Brian had some
arguments that didn’t make the episode, and she also had to go to church
with them. It was “Marriage Amendment Sunday, Call Your Senator Monday” day.
So she had to sit through a gay-bashing sermon. And Brian signed an
amendment petition in front of her at church. It was very emotional for her.
Q/ I could see from the end of the episode that there’s a definite division
of labor with you two. Your Kris was doing the crying and you were doing the
yelling.
If someone pushes me, I get upset, especially when it’s completely idiotic.
Q/ Were there moments during the week when you and Kris Gillespie got along
well at all? The episode shows her just being meaner than a snake to you
almost all the time. And you didn’t necessarily shrink from her yourself.
There were. We both knew how to be civil when it was necessary. There was a
dinner party that you don’t see, and we all had very pleasant conversations
that night. She invited missionary friends of hers who happened to live in
our town. And I know how to be social. I know how to keep my politics under
my hat for a dinner party. Afterward, the producers were like, “Well, you
didn’t bring up anything controversial.” And I said, “Well, we weren’t
talking about it. It didn’t come up.” If you get in my face I’ll get
passionate with you. But we were talking about missionary work, and I was
interested in that. I had nothing rude to say to them. I know how to treat
guests in my own home. But when it was just Kris and me it often became very
tense. She’d bring up an issue and I’d go to the Internet to get some real
facts to show her about her misconceptions.
Q/ In the final moments of the show, did Kris Gillespie actually call you
sexual predators?
She used those words. She used them from the beginning. She was concerned
about her daughter—that my Kris was going to molest her.
Q/ Oh, God.
Yes, not that Kris was going to convert her daughter to lesbianism, but that
she was literally going to molest her.
Q/ And while the episode shows you all talking about having learned
something about yourselves during the filming, Gillespie announces very
clearly and very plainly and in a very unpleasant tone, that you had
“brought nothing to [her] table.”
That really hurt Kris, and that was one of the other reasons she cried at
the end. She went to their house and really tried to do some helpful things,
buying art supplies for the daughter, giving the kids a little more freedom.
[Gillespie] was just incredibly mean-spirited.
Q/ Are y’all going to put the Gillespies on your Christmas card list, just
to annoy them? Make yourself a little holiday thorn in their side every
year?
[Laughs] No, no. I’m not like that. I can’t antagonize people that way. What
I hope is that Kris watches the episode and allows herself to process the
idea that she is actually that person that she sees on-screen, and that
maybe she can learn some compassion and some better ways to behave.
Donna B
When Mama Ain't Happy, Ain't Nobody Happy: 52 Rules Women Want Men to Know
by Kris Gillespie, Brian Gillespie
Editorial Reviews
Capitol Times, April 2000
ØHere’s a must buy book: ‘When Mama Ain’t Happy,...’ will make you laugh
until you want to cry…
Product Description:
(AUSTIN, TX) Authors Kris & Brian Gillespie share 52 humorous “Rules” that
will empower, inspire and strengthen relationships between men and women.
Personal relationsips have three key ingredients: Love, Laughter & Romance.
Of the three, how effectively you communicate your love will set the tone
for fun and romance as well. Their book When Mama Ain’t Happy, Ain’t Nobody
Happy, 52 Rules women want men to know (Destination Publications, January
2000, ISBN:0970559402, paperback $8.99) provides fun and common sense tips
to strengthen communication skills, and keep those home flames hot. If
you’ve ever said “We don’t have fun anymore or we don’t talk like we used
to” then this is the book for you. For example:
Rule #6, “Going shopping with your wife is like being seventeen in an
election year. You can have all the opinions you want, but you just can’t
vote.”
Rule #21, “Ask directions, even if you may be able to find your own way.”
Rule #41, “ Remember that all you have, you share, unless it’s hers.”
Rule #52, “ Marriage is not 50/50, it’s 100/100.
Rule #8, “When looking at other women, the three second rule applies.”
Written mostly through Brian’s own suggestions, based on 15 years of
experience, When Mama Ain’t Happy, Ain’t Nobody Happy, will make you laugh
until you cry…. And then you will laugh some more. It will energize, bring
humor, and fire up the passion in a relationship.
Donna B
Sometimes bloggers & public information & the Internet absolutely ROCKS.
This family makes all of is money by running their own telemarketing
company! She's listed as co-owner of Destination Excellence. Anyone count
how many times she used the word 'excellent' or a variation of it in the
show? LOL
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/2002-03-08/pols_feature15.html
She has apparently run for the Texas state legislature & lost, in 2002,
maybe again in 2004.
Blech.
--
Donna B
"Where I draw the line is with these attack bloggers. Just someone with a
computer who gathers, collates & publishes accurate information that is then
read by the general public. They have no credibility. All they have is
facts. Spare me ... " - Steven Colbert, THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART,
02-16-2005
Jane Chaplin
"Donna B" <shall...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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|I didn't find them to be very humorous people ...
I think this is also them:
Donna B
<zirTd.3394$DW....@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>, "Jane Chaplin"
<janec...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Yes, it is! They co-own it. She really spends a lot of time as a SAHM,
doesn't she? Telemarketers! Ptooey.
--
Donna B
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