Today's premieres and other notes (Sunday, Sept. 10)

[Robin Miller]

Volo, House of Cars [new] (7 am, History)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc080IcFdrc

https://www.volocars.com/blog/volo-house-of-cars-teaser




It's How You Get There [new] (7:30 am, History)

Sometimes the journey is just as important as the destination. These
guys cover the best locations the world has to offer from the mode of
transportation to experiences along the way. Its not where you go, "Its
How You Get There"

https://www.itshowyougetthere.com/




Beachfront Bargain Hunt (season 17 premiere) (8 and 8:30 pm,
two episodes, HGTV)



Outlander (season 3 premiere) (8 pm, Starz)

13 episodes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7N1vi7qg5k

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/outlander-2014/season-3 [Metacritic
score 87]

https://www.starz.com/series/outlander/featured




The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)

Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane's latest Fox series is a live-action
homage to one of his favorite programs, Star Trek, complete with
color-coded uniforms and an alien working among the bridge crew. The
hourlong sci-fi dramedy is set 300 years in the future aboard a
"mid-level" exploratory interstellar vessel named Orville. MacFarlane
himself stars alongside Adrianne Palicki (as his first officer and
ex-wife), Scott Grimes, Penny Johnson Jerald, and Chad L. Coleman. Fox
is giving the series a high-profile post-NFL launch on successive Sunday
nights (tonight and 9/17) before moving the show to its normal Thursday
9 pm timeslot on September 21.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy9sKeCE8V0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMKECRnZe2U

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-orville [Metacritic score 34]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5691552/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Orville

https://www.fox.com/the-orville/




Endeavor (season 4 finale) (9 pm, PBS)

Renewed for season 5 by ITV.




Island Life (season 9 premiere) (9 and 9:30 pm, two episodes,
HGTV)




Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)




The Deuce [new] (9 to 10:30 pm, HBO)

Twin brothers Vincent (James Franco) and Frankie Martino (James Franco)
- one a double-shifting bartender with two kids and a wayward wife in
Brooklyn, the second an insouciant gambler with piling mob debts -
navigate their way through the rough-and-tumble world of 1971 Times
Square. While Vincent plots ways to improve his situation and pay off
his brother's debt, he crosses paths with other midtown denizens -
including veteran hookers Candy (Maggie Gyllenhaal) and Ashley (Jamie
Neumann), young streetwalkers Darlene (Dominique Fishback) and Lori
(Emily Meade), and smooth-talking pimps C.C. (Gary Carr), Larry (Gbenga
Akinnagbe) and Rodney (Cliff Smith/Method Man) - as they ply their
trades under the not-so-watchful eye of the NYPD. Meanwhile, when NYU
student Abby (Margarita Levieva) is enlisted by friends to buy
amphetamines on the street, she ends up in the Times Square precinct, an
unlikely starting point for making a bold change to her privileged life.
8 episodes; regular time is 9-10 pm.

Note: The 90-minute episode pushes back the start time of HBO's
following programs.]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7YMlL8x8GE

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/the-deuce [Metacritic score 85]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4998350/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Deuce_(TV_series)

http://www.hbo.com/the-deuce




Fear the Walking Dead (premiere of 2nd half of season 3)
(9 and 10 pm, two episodes, AMC)

Preceded by a "preview special" at 8 pm. 8 episodes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI2U47UUVjY

http://www.amc.com/shows/fear-the-walking-dead




Top of the Lake: China Girl (season 2 premiere) (9-11 pm,
SundanceTV)

China Girl serves as the follow-up to Jane Campion's acclaimed 2013
miniseries. Star Elisabeth Moss returns—joined by Nicole Kidman and Game
of Thrones' Gwendoline Christie—for a new mystery that takes place in
the much more urban setting of Sydney, Australia, where the body of an
Asian girl washes up on the beach. The six-hour miniseries will air
across three consecutive nights, with additional chapters on 9/11 and
9/12 at 9-11 pm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ebH6h7zLqI

http://www.metacritic.com/tv/top-of-the-lake/season-2 [Metacritic
score 73]

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5024708/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_of_the_Lake

http://www.sundance.tv/series/top-of-the-lake




97th Miss America Competition (special) (9-11 pm, ABC)



Mexico Life (season 2 fall premiere) (10 and 10:30 pm, two
episodes, HGTV)




Talking Dead: Fear Edition (season 2 fall premiere) (11
pm, AMC)



Tim & Eric's Bedtime Stories (season 2 premiere) (midnight
and 12:15 am, two episodes, Adult Swim)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2COXyYRd8I




Tomorrow's scripted and network premieres:


I am Frankie (time slot premiere) (7:30 pm, Nickelodeon)


--Robin

[anim8rfsk]

In article <f1lauq...@mid.individual.net>,

So even if I *wanted* to watch The Orville, there's no telling when it
will start or if it will show in it's entirety. Guess that makes my
mind up for me.

Thanks,> --Robin

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[Dimensional Traveler]

On 9/10/2017 10:26 AM, Robin Miller wrote:
>
> Talking Dead: Fear Edition        (season 2 fall premiere)         (11
> pm, AMC)
>

Yup, that's definitely something to fear.

--
Inquiring minds want to know while minds with a self-preservation
instinct are running screaming.

[Obveeus]

Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
problems.

On 9/10/2017 1:26 PM, Robin Miller wrote:

> Beachfront Bargain Hunt (season 17 premiere) (8 and 8:30
pm, two episodes, HGTV)

Featuring lots of newly added fixer uppers?

> The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)

Will sample.

> Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)

A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF tonight.

> Top of the Lake: China Girl (season 2 premiere) (9-11
pm, SundanceTV)

I would be watching this if I had SUNDANCEtv on my cable.

[Arthur Lipscomb]

On 9/10/2017 11:52 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <f1lauq...@mid.individual.net>,
> Robin Miller <robin....@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>

>snip

>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)
>>
>> Family Guy creator Seth MacFarlane's latest Fox series is a live-action
>> homage to one of his favorite programs, Star Trek, complete with
>> color-coded uniforms and an alien working among the bridge crew. The
>> hourlong sci-fi dramedy is set 300 years in the future aboard a
>> "mid-level" exploratory interstellar vessel named Orville. MacFarlane
>> himself stars alongside Adrianne Palicki (as his first officer and
>> ex-wife), Scott Grimes, Penny Johnson Jerald, and Chad L. Coleman. Fox
>> is giving the series a high-profile post-NFL launch on successive Sunday
>> nights (tonight and 9/17) before moving the show to its normal Thursday
>> 9 pm timeslot on September 21.
>>

snip

>>
>
> So even if I *wanted* to watch The Orville, there's no telling when it
> will start or if it will show in it's entirety. Guess that makes my
> mind up for me.
>
> Thanks,> --Robin
>

My DVR says it's airing twice. First at 6:00 then again at 8:00.

[Robin Miller]

I think it depends on whether your local Fox station is carrying a late
(4/4:30 pm eastern) football game, or only an early one (1 pm). And I
suppose there might only be a conflict in the eastern (and possibly
central?) time zones. Anyway, "check your local listings."

--Robin

[Ian J. Ball]

On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:

> Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
> problems.

Yep - I just now couldn't seem to access it.

> On 9/10/2017 1:26 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>
> > The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)
>
> Will sample.

Ditto, though I'd be a lot more likely to stick with this one if it were 30-minute instead of 60-minute episodes... :|

> > Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)
>
> A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF tonight.

This definitely won't be the same without the naked nudity!!

> > Top of the Lake: China Girl (season 2 premiere) (9-11
> pm, SundanceTV)
>
> I would be watching this if I had SUNDANCEtv on my cable.

I would be watching this if I could watch season #1 first! :/

[anim8rfsk]

In article <op44mf$3jo$1...@news.albasani.net>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
> problems.
>
> On 9/10/2017 1:26 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>
> > Beachfront Bargain Hunt (season 17 premiere) (8 and 8:30
> pm, two episodes, HGTV)
>
> Featuring lots of newly added fixer uppers?
>
> > The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)
>
> Will sample.

If it wasn't starting at a random time and probably abridged and
directed by Brannon Braga ...

> > Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)
>
> A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF tonight.

So twice the lack of Jill Wagner?

> > Top of the Lake: China Girl (season 2 premiere) (9-11
> pm, SundanceTV)
>
> I would be watching this if I had SUNDANCEtv on my cable.

Yeah, it's up in a higher tier here too.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <op46jr$cf8$1...@dont-email.me>,

But since the first one will be delayed, the second one gets screwed up
too.

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 9/10/2017 2:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>
>> > Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)
>>
>> A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF tonight.
>
> This definitely won't be the same without the naked nudity!!
>

You mean "hairy nudity", don't you?

[Dimensional Traveler]

West coast, scheduled for 6pm and 8pm.

[suzeeq]

The first one actually aired early. like 5 (pacific time). But the game
was over by 4.

[Obveeus]

On 9/10/2017 8:26 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <op44mf$3jo$1...@news.albasani.net>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
>> problems.
>>
>> On 9/10/2017 1:26 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>
>> > Beachfront Bargain Hunt (season 17 premiere) (8 and 8:30
>> pm, two episodes, HGTV)
>>
>> Featuring lots of newly added fixer uppers?
>>
>> > The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)
>>
>> Will sample.
>
> If it wasn't starting at a random time and probably abridged and
> directed by Brannon Braga ...

I don't think you have to worry about football time delays nearly as
much in the western time zones. It is only the East/Central where
football overruns mess with stuff.

>> > Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)
>>
>> A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF tonight.
>
> So twice the lack of Jill Wagner?

It turns out that the second episode is just a highlight/discussion fan
wank episode specifically about the female characters, so there will
probably be some Jill Wagner, but not much reason to watch in terms of
the show's plot. Additionally, next week is doing the same thing with a
real episode followed by an hour of fan wank celebration.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <op4sb9$537$1...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

>
>
> On 9/10/2017 8:26 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > In article <op44mf$3jo$1...@news.albasani.net>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
> >> problems.
> >>
> >> On 9/10/2017 1:26 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
> >>
> >> > Beachfront Bargain Hunt (season 17 premiere) (8 and 8:30
> >> pm, two episodes, HGTV)
> >>
> >> Featuring lots of newly added fixer uppers?
> >>
> >> > The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)
> >>
> >> Will sample.
> >
> > If it wasn't starting at a random time and probably abridged and
> > directed by Brannon Braga ...
>
> I don't think you have to worry about football time delays nearly as
> much in the western time zones. It is only the East/Central where
> football overruns mess with stuff.

I recorded something last week where the show ended in plenty of time
but the announces kept talking and talking and finally the program I
wanted started late, in progress, and they cut off the end as well, even
though I'd padded it half an hour.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <op4llb$alo$2...@dont-email.me>,

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

> On 9/10/2017 2:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> > On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
> >
> >> > Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)
> >>
> >> A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF tonight.
> >
> > This definitely won't be the same without the naked nudity!!
> >
> You mean "hairy nudity", don't you?

Didn't he play for the 49ers?

[A Friend]

In article <anim8rfsk-4011D...@news.easynews.com>,

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> In article <op44mf$3jo$1...@news.albasani.net>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
> > problems.
> >
> > On 9/10/2017 1:26 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
> >
> > > Beachfront Bargain Hunt (season 17 premiere) (8 and 8:30
> > pm, two episodes, HGTV)
> >
> > Featuring lots of newly added fixer uppers?
> >
> > > The Orville [new] (8 pm [after football], Fox)
> >
> > Will sample.
>
> If it wasn't starting at a random time and probably abridged and
> directed by Brannon Braga ...

Despite its Braaaaagaaaaness, I rather liked THE ORVILLE. There were
one or two good laughs in it, but I was more impressed that they stayed
true to the sfnal nature of the thing.

I also liked it that the Statue of Liberty, the Empire State Building,
the Chrysler Building and the Brooklyn Bridge were all still around in
the 25th century.

I *really* liked it that the show started on time, despite football.

[Neill Massello]

anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

> So even if I *wanted* to watch The Orville, there's no telling when it
> will start or if it will show in it's entirety. Guess that makes my
> mind up for me.

Repeats on Tuesday night. But trust me, you really *don't* want to watch
it.

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 9/10/2017 8:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> In article <op4llb$alo$2...@dont-email.me>,
> Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>> On 9/10/2017 2:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>
>>>> > Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)
>>>>
>>>> A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF tonight.
>>>
>>> This definitely won't be the same without the naked nudity!!
>>>
>> You mean "hairy nudity", don't you?
>
> Didn't he play for the 49ers?
>

I don't follow sports.

[anim8rfsk]

In article <1nc5muc.t5gils1v4eqaaN%nmas...@yahoo.com>,

hee hee

I'm sure

[anim8rfsk]

In article <op4vpe$jf6$1...@dont-email.me>,

Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:

> On 9/10/2017 8:07 PM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> > In article <op4llb$alo$2...@dont-email.me>,
> > Dimensional Traveler <dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
> >
> >> On 9/10/2017 2:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> >>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> > Teen Wolf: Fiercest Females (special) (9 pm, MTV)
> >>>>
> >>>> A normal episode airs at 8pm, so there are two hours of TEEN WOLF
> >>>> tonight.
> >>>
> >>> This definitely won't be the same without the naked nudity!!
> >>>
> >> You mean "hairy nudity", don't you?
> >
> > Didn't he play for the 49ers?
> >
> I don't follow sports.

Funny, I've heard they follow you ...

[Dimensional Traveler]

o_O

[~consul]

On 9/10/2017 5:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>> Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
>> problems.
> Yep - I just now couldn't seem to access it.

I've been getting intermittent error message for just this newsgroup
of " News (NNTP) error occurred: load at 23.20, retry later"
I couldn't find any info on what this means and why only this group.
--
"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here,
at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul

[Dimensional Traveler]

On 9/12/2017 8:28 AM, ~consul wrote:
> On 9/10/2017 5:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>> Forgive me if this shows up twice.  eternal-september is still having
>>> problems.
>> Yep - I just now couldn't seem to access it.
>
> I've been getting intermittent error message for just this newsgroup of
> " News (NNTP) error occurred: load at 23.20, retry later"
> I couldn't find any info on what this means and why only this group.

I'm getting those two but not for just one newsgroup. I retry later and
it is usually up.

[Robin Miller]

Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 9/12/2017 8:28 AM, ~consul wrote:
>> On 9/10/2017 5:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>> Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having
>>>> problems.
>>> Yep - I just now couldn't seem to access it.
>>
>> I've been getting intermittent error message for just this newsgroup
>> of " News (NNTP) error occurred: load at 23.20, retry later"
>> I couldn't find any info on what this means and why only this group.
>
> I'm getting those two but not for just one newsgroup. I retry later and
> it is usually up.
>

10 euros a year and zero problems:

http://www.individual.net/

--Robin

[Dimensional Traveler]

ES has been zero problems for several years and $0.

[Ian J. Ball]

On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-7, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

> On 9/12/2017 12:22 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
> > Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> >> On 9/12/2017 8:28 AM, ~consul wrote:
> >>> On 9/10/2017 5:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
> >>>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Forgive me if this shows up twice.  eternal-september is still having
> >>>>> problems.
> >>>
> >>>> Yep - I just now couldn't seem to access it.
> >>>
> >>> I've been getting intermittent error message for just this newsgroup
> >>> of " News (NNTP) error occurred: load at 23.20, retry later"
> >>> I couldn't find any info on what this means and why only this group.
> >>
> >> I'm getting those two but not for just one newsgroup.  I retry later and
> >> it is usually up.
> >
> > 10 euros a year and zero problems:
> >
> > http://www.individual.net/
>
> ES has been zero problems for several years and $0.

I'm going to give ES one more week. But it's been so unreliable as to be unusable lately. (Eating 2 posts on 2 separate days is unacceptable, and it's currently timing out on post I am trying to read.) If they haven't gotten it together by next week, I will start looking at alternatives, and individual.net will definitely be something I will look at.

[suzeeq]

Ian J. Ball wrote:
> On Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 1:58:10 PM UTC-7, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>
>> On 9/12/2017 12:22 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>>> On 9/12/2017 8:28 AM, ~consul wrote:
>>>>> On 9/10/2017 5:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Forgive me if this shows up twice. eternal-september is still having

>>>>>>> problems.
>>>>>> Yep - I just now couldn't seem to access it.
>>>>> I've been getting intermittent error message for just this newsgroup
>>>>> of " News (NNTP) error occurred: load at 23.20, retry later"
>>>>> I couldn't find any info on what this means and why only this group.

>>>> I'm getting those two but not for just one newsgroup. I retry later and

>>>> it is usually up.
>>> 10 euros a year and zero problems:
>>>
>>> http://www.individual.net/
>>
>> ES has been zero problems for several years and $0.
>
> I'm going to give ES one more week. But it's been so unreliable as to be unusable lately. (Eating 2 posts on 2 separate days is unacceptable, and it's currently timing out on post I am trying to read.) If they haven't gotten it together by next week, I will start looking at alternatives, and individual.net will definitely be something I will look at.

Make sure individual.net carries all the groups you want to read. They
don't carry some of them.

[Obveeus]

On 9/12/2017 4:58 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 9/12/2017 12:22 PM, Robin Miller wrote:
>> Dimensional Traveler wrote:
>>> On 9/12/2017 8:28 AM, ~consul wrote:
>>>> On 9/10/2017 5:47 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>>>>> On Sunday, September 10, 2017 at 12:44:19 PM UTC-7, Obveeus wrote:
>>>>>> Forgive me if this shows up twice.  eternal-september is still having
>>>>>> problems.
>>>>> Yep - I just now couldn't seem to access it.
>>>>
>>>> I've been getting intermittent error message for just this newsgroup
>>>> of " News (NNTP) error occurred: load at 23.20, retry later"
>>>> I couldn't find any info on what this means and why only this group.
>>>
>>> I'm getting those two but not for just one newsgroup.  I retry later and
>>> it is usually up.
>>>
>>
>>
>> 10 euros a year and zero problems:
>>
>> http://www.individual.net/
>>
> ES has been zero problems for several years and $0.

Remind me again, did eternal-september stop working reliably right about
when ian started using it? There must be a way to blame him for this.
>

[anim8rfsk]

In article <opa55o$uab$3...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

You can see Dimensional Traveler's posts?

[suzeeq]

I can too.

[Obveeus]

Dimensional who?

[anim8rfsk]

In article <opbbl0$ivt$3...@dont-email.me>, Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com>

Exactly. Although I liked his companion, Clara ...