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Gwyneth Paltrow crashes into man, cripples him, sues him for getting in her way
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anim8rfsk
Mar 26, 2023, 2:14:58 AM3/26/23
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The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
Ubiquitous
Mar 27, 2023, 8:47:52 AM3/27/23
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anim...@cox.net wrote:
> https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gwyneth-paltrow-trial-ski-collision-deer-valley-park-city-utah/
Actually, she thought she was being raped.
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Gwyneth Paltrow, the Oscar-winning actress and founder of luxury lifestyle brand Goop, is
currently involved in a civil trial after being sued by a retired optometrist who accused her of
causing permanent brain damage after crashing into him while skiing in Utah.
In 2019, Terry Sanderson, 76, filed a lawsuit against Paltrow initially seeking $3 million in
damages. The amount has since been dropped to $300,000. Sanderson alleges that on February 26,
2016, he was skiing on a beginner’s slope at Deer Valley Resort in Park City, Utah, a resort town
known for hosting the Sundance Film Festival.
Sanderson claims that the actress was skiing behind him on the slope and had turned to watch her
children before, as his attorney said in court Tuesday, “she turns her head back down, she
screams, then skis into the back of Terry Sanderson.” Sanderson’s attorney, Lawrence Buhler, said
that after the collision, his client was left “facedown in the snow, unconscious,” according to
The Washington Post. After the crash, Paltrow allegedly fled, leaving Sanderson “stunned, lying in
the snow, seriously injured,” according to his lawsuit. Paltrow didn’t call for help, he added.
Sanderson later went to an emergency room and was diagnosed with a concussion and four broken
ribs. Sanderson’s ski companion, Craig Ramon, testified at the civil trial that he saw Paltrow
crash into Sanderson and knock him over.
“I hear this scream and then I see this skier just slam into the back of Terry,” Ramon testified.
Buhler, Sanderson’s attorney, said the accident has left his client with lasting damage, blaming
Paltrow’s “neglect, her choices and her disregard for other people on the mountain all combined
together” for Sanderson’s issues.
“Before this crash, Terry was an outgoing, charming, gregarious person,” Buhler said at the trial.
“But after the crash, he’s no longer charming.”
Sanderson’s lawsuit claims he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
pain, suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, emotional distress and disfigurement.”
Paltrow’s attorneys have argued that, while a collision did occur between the actress and
Sanderson seven years ago, it was the retired optometrist who crashed into her. One of her
attorneys, Stephen Owens, said at the trial that because Paltrow was struck so suddenly, she at
first thought she was being assaulted.
“She’s skiing, enjoying herself,” Owens said. “Suddenly she sees two skis appear between her skis.
And a man comes up right behind her.”
Owens said that right after the crash, Sanderson asked, “Who ran into who?” and then apologized to
Paltrow after she said that he ran into her. Paltrow’s defense team said members of her group
checked on Sanderson after the accident and he said he was okay, and that he said the same thing
to a ski patrol member who came to check on them. The actress’ attorneys said Paltrow only skied
away after Sanderson said he was okay and after ski patrol left, and that the retired optometrist
only sought help after he waved away ski patrol.
Owens said Ramon’s account of the incident was “a whole different, crazy story.” Owens argued that
Sanderson didn’t even know that Paltrow was involved at the time, since she was wearing a helmet
and goggles. But later, when he discovered who she was, he sent an email to his daughters saying
“I’m famous.”
Owens also suggested that the crash isn’t the cause of Sanderson’s health issues, saying, “He’s
aging, he has prior problems, and he’s now obsessed, essentially, with this lawsuit.”
“I don’t want to seem like I’m beating up on a kindly old man,” Owens added, “but keep in mind we
have to do this because they’ve said Gwyneth owes me $3 million.”
Paltrow has filed a counterclaim against Sanderson, seeking a symbolic $1 in damages, as well as
attorney fees. Paltrow has called Sanderson’s lawsuit a “meritless claim” and “an attempt to
exploit her celebrity and wealth.”
Paltrow says in her countersuit that Deer Valley ski instructor Eric Christiansen witnessed the
incident and bolstered her version of the story. In his lawsuit, Sanderson claims that
Christiansen didn’t see what happened and filed a false police report supporting Paltrow’s claims.
The civil trial began Tuesday and is scheduled to last eight days, with Paltrow’s husband, Brad
Falchuk, as well as her children, daughter Apple and son Moses,
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> https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gwyneth-paltrow-trial-ski-collision-deer-valley-park-city-utah/
Actually, she thought she was being raped.
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Gwyneth Paltrow, the Oscar-winning actress and founder of luxury lifestyle brand Goop, is
currently involved in a civil trial after being sued by a retired optometrist who accused her of
causing permanent brain damage after crashing into him while skiing in Utah.
In 2019, Terry Sanderson, 76, filed a lawsuit against Paltrow initially seeking $3 million in
damages. The amount has since been dropped to $300,000. Sanderson alleges that on February 26,
2016, he was skiing on a beginner’s slope at Deer Valley Resort in Park City, Utah, a resort town
known for hosting the Sundance Film Festival.
Sanderson claims that the actress was skiing behind him on the slope and had turned to watch her
children before, as his attorney said in court Tuesday, “she turns her head back down, she
screams, then skis into the back of Terry Sanderson.” Sanderson’s attorney, Lawrence Buhler, said
that after the collision, his client was left “facedown in the snow, unconscious,” according to
The Washington Post. After the crash, Paltrow allegedly fled, leaving Sanderson “stunned, lying in
the snow, seriously injured,” according to his lawsuit. Paltrow didn’t call for help, he added.
Sanderson later went to an emergency room and was diagnosed with a concussion and four broken
ribs. Sanderson’s ski companion, Craig Ramon, testified at the civil trial that he saw Paltrow
crash into Sanderson and knock him over.
“I hear this scream and then I see this skier just slam into the back of Terry,” Ramon testified.
Buhler, Sanderson’s attorney, said the accident has left his client with lasting damage, blaming
Paltrow’s “neglect, her choices and her disregard for other people on the mountain all combined
together” for Sanderson’s issues.
“Before this crash, Terry was an outgoing, charming, gregarious person,” Buhler said at the trial.
“But after the crash, he’s no longer charming.”
Sanderson’s lawsuit claims he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
pain, suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, emotional distress and disfigurement.”
Paltrow’s attorneys have argued that, while a collision did occur between the actress and
Sanderson seven years ago, it was the retired optometrist who crashed into her. One of her
attorneys, Stephen Owens, said at the trial that because Paltrow was struck so suddenly, she at
first thought she was being assaulted.
“She’s skiing, enjoying herself,” Owens said. “Suddenly she sees two skis appear between her skis.
And a man comes up right behind her.”
Owens said that right after the crash, Sanderson asked, “Who ran into who?” and then apologized to
Paltrow after she said that he ran into her. Paltrow’s defense team said members of her group
checked on Sanderson after the accident and he said he was okay, and that he said the same thing
to a ski patrol member who came to check on them. The actress’ attorneys said Paltrow only skied
away after Sanderson said he was okay and after ski patrol left, and that the retired optometrist
only sought help after he waved away ski patrol.
Owens said Ramon’s account of the incident was “a whole different, crazy story.” Owens argued that
Sanderson didn’t even know that Paltrow was involved at the time, since she was wearing a helmet
and goggles. But later, when he discovered who she was, he sent an email to his daughters saying
“I’m famous.”
Owens also suggested that the crash isn’t the cause of Sanderson’s health issues, saying, “He’s
aging, he has prior problems, and he’s now obsessed, essentially, with this lawsuit.”
“I don’t want to seem like I’m beating up on a kindly old man,” Owens added, “but keep in mind we
have to do this because they’ve said Gwyneth owes me $3 million.”
Paltrow has filed a counterclaim against Sanderson, seeking a symbolic $1 in damages, as well as
attorney fees. Paltrow has called Sanderson’s lawsuit a “meritless claim” and “an attempt to
exploit her celebrity and wealth.”
Paltrow says in her countersuit that Deer Valley ski instructor Eric Christiansen witnessed the
incident and bolstered her version of the story. In his lawsuit, Sanderson claims that
Christiansen didn’t see what happened and filed a false police report supporting Paltrow’s claims.
The civil trial began Tuesday and is scheduled to last eight days, with Paltrow’s husband, Brad
Falchuk, as well as her children, daughter Apple and son Moses,
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"The sky was low and heavy, like the brow of a retarded child."
anim8rfsk
Mar 27, 2023, 2:28:12 PM3/27/23
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Ubiquitous
Mar 27, 2023, 7:00:57 PM3/27/23
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Gwyneth Paltrow, who is testifying in a trial in which a retired optometrist
is suing her for allegedly crashing into him on a ski slope, was mocked for a
statement she made about any loss she suffered from the accident.
Paltrow was sued by retired optometrist Terry Sanderson in 2019; he alleged
she plowed into him on Flagstaff Mountain, part of the Deer Valley Resort
near Park City on a beginner’s course called the Bandana Run. Sanderson
claimed he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
“stunned, lying in the snow, seriously injured” without calling for help.
Asked at the trial about any losses she suffered from the accident, Paltrow
glibly replied, “Well, we lost half a day of skiing.”
“White Chicks” star Busy Philipps and actress Jen Tullock responded on
Instagram by posting Paltrow’s statement with a photo of the two women
holding drinks.
Another critic referenced the “vagina candles” Paltrow’s Goop company
produced, snapping, “Half a day of skiing that she will never get back! How
many vagina candles did that cost her?!?!”
That was echoed by another critic, who wrote, “’Well, I lost half a day of
skiing…’ —Gwyneth Paltrow ?? I mean, this whole ‘trial’ is bat-shit crazy.
Makes me kinda miss the vagina candle and the $12K vibrator.”
The “lawsuit is completely without merit … anyone who reads the facts will
realize that,” a representative for Paltrow has responded to the lawsuit.
Paltrow filed a countersuit, asking for $1 and the costs of her legal
expenses if she won.
Paltrow has called the lawsuit — which states that Deer Valley ski instructor
Eric Christiansen didn’t see the incident but blamed Sanderson for the
accident and filed a false report to buttress Paltrow’s version of events —
“a meritless claim” and “an attempt to exploit her celebrity and wealth.” She
has stated that she “remembers what happened very clearly.”
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Paltrow’s countersuit stated that Sanderson admitted he didn’t remember the
incident, and that Sanderson skied downhill into her in a “full body blow.”
She claimed Christiansen saw the incident, that she was angry, and that
Sanderson apologized.
An acquaintance of Sanderson’s, Craig Ramon, claimed he saw the incident and
Paltrow “landed right on top of him, and then she slides off to the side.”
Paltrow “didn’t say a single word,” Ramon claimed, adding that she did not
seek help.
Last July, Paltrow, who has made tens of millions of dollars with her
lifestyle company Goop, explained the meaning behind Goop’s candle named
“This Smells Like My Vagina.”
Paltrow introduced the product in 2020; it reportedly sold out within hours
of being available.
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Let's go Brandon!
is suing her for allegedly crashing into him on a ski slope, was mocked for a
statement she made about any loss she suffered from the accident.
Paltrow was sued by retired optometrist Terry Sanderson in 2019; he alleged
she plowed into him on Flagstaff Mountain, part of the Deer Valley Resort
near Park City on a beginner’s course called the Bandana Run. Sanderson
claimed he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
pain, suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, emotional distress and
disfigurement,” and that Paltrow “got up, turned and skied away,” leaving him
“stunned, lying in the snow, seriously injured” without calling for help.
Asked at the trial about any losses she suffered from the accident, Paltrow
glibly replied, “Well, we lost half a day of skiing.”
“White Chicks” star Busy Philipps and actress Jen Tullock responded on
Instagram by posting Paltrow’s statement with a photo of the two women
holding drinks.
Another critic referenced the “vagina candles” Paltrow’s Goop company
produced, snapping, “Half a day of skiing that she will never get back! How
many vagina candles did that cost her?!?!”
That was echoed by another critic, who wrote, “’Well, I lost half a day of
skiing…’ —Gwyneth Paltrow ?? I mean, this whole ‘trial’ is bat-shit crazy.
Makes me kinda miss the vagina candle and the $12K vibrator.”
The “lawsuit is completely without merit … anyone who reads the facts will
realize that,” a representative for Paltrow has responded to the lawsuit.
Paltrow filed a countersuit, asking for $1 and the costs of her legal
expenses if she won.
Paltrow has called the lawsuit — which states that Deer Valley ski instructor
Eric Christiansen didn’t see the incident but blamed Sanderson for the
accident and filed a false report to buttress Paltrow’s version of events —
“a meritless claim” and “an attempt to exploit her celebrity and wealth.” She
has stated that she “remembers what happened very clearly.”
CLICK HERE TO GET THE DAILYWIRE+ APP
Paltrow’s countersuit stated that Sanderson admitted he didn’t remember the
incident, and that Sanderson skied downhill into her in a “full body blow.”
She claimed Christiansen saw the incident, that she was angry, and that
Sanderson apologized.
An acquaintance of Sanderson’s, Craig Ramon, claimed he saw the incident and
Paltrow “landed right on top of him, and then she slides off to the side.”
Paltrow “didn’t say a single word,” Ramon claimed, adding that she did not
seek help.
Last July, Paltrow, who has made tens of millions of dollars with her
lifestyle company Goop, explained the meaning behind Goop’s candle named
“This Smells Like My Vagina.”
Paltrow introduced the product in 2020; it reportedly sold out within hours
of being available.
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Let's go Brandon!
anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2023, 2:18:23 AM3/28/23
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Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> anim...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> She deserves the death penalty, at least, as much as Alec Baldwin does.
>
> Gwyneth Paltrow, who is testifying in a trial in which a retired optometrist
> is suing her for allegedly crashing into him on a ski slope, was mocked for a
> statement she made about any loss she suffered from the accident.
>
> Paltrow was sued by retired optometrist Terry Sanderson in 2019; he alleged
> she plowed into him on Flagstaff Mountain, part of the Deer Valley Resort
> near Park City on a beginner’s course called the Bandana Run. Sanderson
> claimed he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
> pain, suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, emotional distress and
> disfigurement,”
So basically, she turned him into me
> anim...@cox.net wrote:
>
>> She deserves the death penalty, at least, as much as Alec Baldwin does.
>
> Gwyneth Paltrow, who is testifying in a trial in which a retired optometrist
> is suing her for allegedly crashing into him on a ski slope, was mocked for a
> statement she made about any loss she suffered from the accident.
>
> Paltrow was sued by retired optometrist Terry Sanderson in 2019; he alleged
> she plowed into him on Flagstaff Mountain, part of the Deer Valley Resort
> near Park City on a beginner’s course called the Bandana Run. Sanderson
> claimed he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
> pain, suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, emotional distress and
> disfigurement,”
shawn
Mar 28, 2023, 4:51:20 AM3/28/23
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On Mon, 27 Mar 2023 23:18:18 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
>Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> anim...@cox.net wrote:
>>
>>> She deserves the death penalty, at least, as much as Alec Baldwin does.
>>
>> Gwyneth Paltrow, who is testifying in a trial in which a retired optometrist
>> is suing her for allegedly crashing into him on a ski slope, was mocked for a
>> statement she made about any loss she suffered from the accident.
>>
>> Paltrow was sued by retired optometrist Terry Sanderson in 2019; he alleged
>> she plowed into him on Flagstaff Mountain, part of the Deer Valley Resort
>> near Park City on a beginner’s course called the Bandana Run. Sanderson
>> claimed he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
>> pain, suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, emotional distress and
>> disfigurement,”
>
>So basically, she turned him into me
>
Did she also find him a pharmacy girl or did he already have one?
>and that Paltrow “got up, turned and skied away,” leaving him
>> “stunned, lying in the snow, seriously injured” without calling for help.
I don't know why anyone would just ski away from such an accident.
Maybe if they were an unknown person and wanted to avoid getting
involved in any sort of accident report, but Paltrow isn't in that
position. Whether she was responsible or if he was responsible I
wouldn't expect either party to just ski away if one was hurt.
wrote:
>Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> anim...@cox.net wrote:
>>
>>> She deserves the death penalty, at least, as much as Alec Baldwin does.
>>
>> Gwyneth Paltrow, who is testifying in a trial in which a retired optometrist
>> is suing her for allegedly crashing into him on a ski slope, was mocked for a
>> statement she made about any loss she suffered from the accident.
>>
>> Paltrow was sued by retired optometrist Terry Sanderson in 2019; he alleged
>> she plowed into him on Flagstaff Mountain, part of the Deer Valley Resort
>> near Park City on a beginner’s course called the Bandana Run. Sanderson
>> claimed he suffered a “permanent traumatic brain injury, four broken ribs,
>> pain, suffering, loss of enjoyment of life, emotional distress and
>> disfigurement,”
>
>So basically, she turned him into me
>
>and that Paltrow “got up, turned and skied away,” leaving him
>> “stunned, lying in the snow, seriously injured” without calling for help.
Maybe if they were an unknown person and wanted to avoid getting
involved in any sort of accident report, but Paltrow isn't in that
position. Whether she was responsible or if he was responsible I
wouldn't expect either party to just ski away if one was hurt.
Ubiquitous
Mar 28, 2023, 7:17:49 AM3/28/23
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anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2023, 10:55:30 AM3/28/23
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> Let's go Brandon!
>
>
anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2023, 10:55:30 AM3/28/23
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candles stink like your vagina, or name my kid Apple either.
RichA
Mar 28, 2023, 11:05:25 AM3/28/23
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Rhino
Mar 28, 2023, 12:09:38 PM3/28/23
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one other guy who was nearly at the bottom of the hill and on the
opposite side. The friends I'd gone with, who were all experienced
skiers, shouted advice at me all the way down but, as usual, I was
pretty inept at a new physical activity. So inept, it turns out, that I
ended up running into the only other guy on the hill. We both went down,
we both got up and went our merry ways. I don't remember asking him if
he was okay and I don't remember him asking me if I was okay: we just
took it as one of those things that happens on the beginner hill. (My
friends told me later that they'd considered yelling a warning at the
other guy that I was on my way down and might pose a threat of
inadvertent collision but they thought there was no way I could actually
go that far off course, seriously underestimating my incompetence.)
I don't think I'm a monster and I assume the guy I ran into wasn't
either. I doubt it occurred to either of us that someone could be
seriously injured at low speed on the kiddy hill. Maybe Paltrow had the
same thought process.
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Rhino
shawn
Mar 28, 2023, 1:48:30 PM3/28/23
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I'm sure I could equal your accomplishment.
>I don't think I'm a monster and I assume the guy I ran into wasn't
>either. I doubt it occurred to either of us that someone could be
>seriously injured at low speed on the kiddy hill. Maybe Paltrow had the
>same thought process.
serious happened. If someone feels they need to bring a lawsuit
against the person that ran into them then I would also figure they
didn't just get up and ski away. Sure, that's some assumptions on my
part but it seems reasonable that the guy was more seriously hurt if
he's bringing a law suit (or it's a frivolous law suit.)
BTR1701
Mar 28, 2023, 1:52:42 PM3/28/23
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On Mar 28, 2023 at 1:51:14 AM PDT, "shawn" <nanof...@notforg.m.a.i.l.com>
wrote:
Halle Berry was there with Paltrow and gave her post-crash advice.
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Ubiquitous
Mar 28, 2023, 1:55:36 PM3/28/23
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She just left the scene.
Sanderson’s attorney, Lawrence Buhler, said that after the collision,
his client was left “facedown in the snow, unconscious,” according to
The Washington Post. After the crash, Paltrow allegedly fled, leaving
Sanderson “stunned, lying in the snow, seriously injured,” according
to his lawsuit.
Let's go Berandon!
Ed Stasiak
Mar 28, 2023, 3:19:02 PM3/28/23
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> Rhino
Thought process
Pick one and only one...
https://i.postimg.cc/43tLCGKJ/limes.jpg
>
> Maybe Paltrow had the same thought process.
Gwyneth Paltrow
> Maybe Paltrow had the same thought process.
Thought process
Pick one and only one...
https://i.postimg.cc/43tLCGKJ/limes.jpg
anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2023, 3:41:30 PM3/28/23
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If the guy had four broken ribs, I doubt he just got back up by himself.
Would you have left the other skier laying in the snow?
anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2023, 3:41:31 PM3/28/23
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A Friend
Mar 28, 2023, 4:11:38 PM3/28/23
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In article
<1937254214.701724560.4...@news.easynews.com>,
enough away from the site to feel safe. Shock can be a wonderful
thing.
> Would you have left the other skier laying in the snow?
Hell no. You make sure the other party is all right, even if you think
they're at fault. If the other party is not all right, you call for
aid or make sure that someone else has. That's just common decency.
<1937254214.701724560.4...@news.easynews.com>,
anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> If the guy had four broken ribs, I doubt he just got back up by himself.
I don't know. I've been seriously injured but managed to get far
> If the guy had four broken ribs, I doubt he just got back up by himself.
enough away from the site to feel safe. Shock can be a wonderful
thing.
> Would you have left the other skier laying in the snow?
they're at fault. If the other party is not all right, you call for
aid or make sure that someone else has. That's just common decency.
suzeeq
Mar 28, 2023, 4:24:34 PM3/28/23
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not run into her as much as he's able to. Including falling down himself
to avoid hitting another person.
Dimensional Traveler
Mar 28, 2023, 5:14:37 PM3/28/23
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I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
dirty old man.
Rhino
Mar 28, 2023, 5:54:16 PM3/28/23
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anyone's testimony. I thought perhaps his symptoms all manifested
themselves after she'd left and after he'd realized who she was and how
much money she had. If he's got any witnesses that he was down and
didn't get up while she was still present, he'll have a stronger case
than if there are no witnesses and it's effectively a "he said, she
said". (Dozens of people nearby doesn't help much if none of them were
paying attention and there is no camera footage.)
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Rhino
Rhino
Mar 28, 2023, 6:03:51 PM3/28/23
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On 2023-03-28 4:11 PM, A Friend wrote:
> In article
> <1937254214.701724560.4...@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> If the guy had four broken ribs, I doubt he just got back up by himself.
>
>
> I don't know. I've been seriously injured but managed to get far
> enough away from the site to feel safe. Shock can be a wonderful
> thing.
>
I can testify to that from something that happened to a friend. A bunch
> In article
> <1937254214.701724560.4...@news.easynews.com>,
> anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
>> If the guy had four broken ribs, I doubt he just got back up by himself.
>
>
> I don't know. I've been seriously injured but managed to get far
> enough away from the site to feel safe. Shock can be a wonderful
> thing.
>
of us were out horseback riding at a place that offers that. My friend
Gary's wife Catherine, who is legally blind, was startled by a branch
unexpectedly hitting here and started to lose her balance. Her husband
Gary saw her starting to fall and dove to catch her but she caught
herself and he fell to the ground. Gary was in his 70s at the time and
hit pretty hard. He got back up though and the group of us kept going
but when the ride was over, he admitted to being somewhat sore. I
offered to drive his car back with him and Catherine as passengers - I
was the only licensed driver in the group who hadn't driven a vehicle to
this excursion - but Gary REALLY hates to be in a car with anyone else
driving and said he was okay to drive so he drove his own car back to
town. By the time they were back in town - 45 minutes later - he was
really hurting and they stopped at the hospital. The X-Ray showed 13
cracked ribs!!! He spend the next several weeks in bed and made a full
recovery. When we were at the ranch we had no way of knowing he was
nearly that badly hurt. I'm not sure if he really had no idea or if he
was just really determined to drive his own car home ;-)
>
>> Would you have left the other skier laying in the snow?
>
>
> Hell no. You make sure the other party is all right, even if you think
> they're at fault. If the other party is not all right, you call for
> aid or make sure that someone else has. That's just common decency.
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>> Would you have left the other skier laying in the snow?
>
>
> Hell no. You make sure the other party is all right, even if you think
> they're at fault. If the other party is not all right, you call for
> aid or make sure that someone else has. That's just common decency.
Rhino
anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2023, 7:43:13 PM3/28/23
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>>
>>> Would you have left the other skier laying in the snow?
>>
>>
>> Hell no. You make sure the other party is all right, even if you think
>> they're at fault. If the other party is not all right, you call for
>> aid or make sure that someone else has. That's just common decency.
>
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anim8rfsk
Mar 28, 2023, 7:43:14 PM3/28/23
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snow and didn’t move again. But the news coverage on all of this is so bad
that it’s impossible to tell what quotes are actual testimony in court.
> than if there are no witnesses and it's effectively a "he said, she
> said". (Dozens of people nearby doesn't help much if none of them were
> paying attention and there is no camera footage.)
>
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Ubiquitous
Mar 29, 2023, 7:49:31 AM3/29/23
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anim8rfsk
Mar 29, 2023, 9:18:12 AM3/29/23
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Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
> atr...@mac.com wrote:
>
>> Halle Berry was there with Paltrow and gave her post-crash advice.
>
> Was the advice about Disney rides?
>
> https://youtu.be/_Q_MfeFZUMU
That’s actually what BTR is talking about. Berry has a history of causing
> atr...@mac.com wrote:
>
>> Halle Berry was there with Paltrow and gave her post-crash advice.
>
> Was the advice about Disney rides?
>
> https://youtu.be/_Q_MfeFZUMU
accidents and leaving the scene and the cops find her in the nearest bar
and they can’t do a breathalyzer because she’s obviously been drinking but
she can claim she didn’t start until after the accident.
>
> --
> Let's go Brandon!
>
>
shawn
Mar 29, 2023, 9:56:05 AM3/29/23
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On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 06:18:08 -0700, anim8rfsk <anim...@cox.net>
wrote:
>Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> atr...@mac.com wrote:
>>
>>> Halle Berry was there with Paltrow and gave her post-crash advice.
>>
>> Was the advice about Disney rides?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/_Q_MfeFZUMU
>
>That’s actually what BTR is talking about. Berry has a history of causing
>accidents and leaving the scene and the cops find her in the nearest bar
>and they can’t do a breathalyzer because she’s obviously been drinking but
>she can claim she didn’t start until after the accident.
Smart.. Evil, but actually a smart move. So when does Berry start
portraying evil villains in the films given her obvious real life
experience?
wrote:
>Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> atr...@mac.com wrote:
>>
>>> Halle Berry was there with Paltrow and gave her post-crash advice.
>>
>> Was the advice about Disney rides?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/_Q_MfeFZUMU
>
>That’s actually what BTR is talking about. Berry has a history of causing
>accidents and leaving the scene and the cops find her in the nearest bar
>and they can’t do a breathalyzer because she’s obviously been drinking but
>she can claim she didn’t start until after the accident.
portraying evil villains in the films given her obvious real life
experience?
Dimensional Traveler
Mar 29, 2023, 11:57:38 AM3/29/23
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On 3/29/2023 6:18 AM, anim8rfsk wrote:
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> atr...@mac.com wrote:
>>
>>> Halle Berry was there with Paltrow and gave her post-crash advice.
>>
>> Was the advice about Disney rides?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/_Q_MfeFZUMU
>
> That’s actually what BTR is talking about. Berry has a history of causing
> accidents and leaving the scene and the cops find her in the nearest bar
> and they can’t do a breathalyzer because she’s obviously been drinking but
> she can claim she didn’t start until after the accident.
>
Courts in potential drunk driving or other public intoxication cases
> Ubiquitous <web...@polaris.net> wrote:
>> atr...@mac.com wrote:
>>
>>> Halle Berry was there with Paltrow and gave her post-crash advice.
>>
>> Was the advice about Disney rides?
>>
>> https://youtu.be/_Q_MfeFZUMU
>
> That’s actually what BTR is talking about. Berry has a history of causing
> accidents and leaving the scene and the cops find her in the nearest bar
> and they can’t do a breathalyzer because she’s obviously been drinking but
> she can claim she didn’t start until after the accident.
>
will frequently order the defendant wear a TAD (Transdermal Alcohol
Detection) device (its like those blood sugar monitoring devices for
diabetics) with a "No Alcohol" condition for OR release. If Berry has
been involved in multiple instances I am surprised she hasn't had to be
wearing a TAD during one of those instances.
anim8rfsk
Mar 29, 2023, 12:31:03 PM3/29/23
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different states.
Dimensional Traveler
Mar 29, 2023, 4:09:49 PM3/29/23
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routinely include out-of-state cases.
anim8rfsk
Mar 29, 2023, 10:25:27 PM3/29/23
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but as I recall, she definitely pulled this off, probably in California,
and the article said that either she had done it four previous times or
possibly this was the fourth time, but the other ones were in other states
so it didn’t count as a strike against her in California.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-may-11-me-29022-story.html#:~:text=Actress%20Halle%20Berry%20pleaded%20no,200%20hours%20of%20community%20service.
Man, it’s been 23 years. She was drunk and ran a red light and hurt people
and they let her go for being a pretty actress.
It may actually have been 26 years. Some articles are dated 2000 and others
are dated 1997.
This article says it’s the third time she did this, but the information
apparently comes from the lawyers of the woman she hit this time:
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-may-11-me-29022-story.html#:~:text=The%20other%20driver%2C%20Hetal%20Raythatha,result%20of%20her%20head%20injury.
Dimensional Traveler
Mar 29, 2023, 11:21:39 PM3/29/23
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Another thing that might account for it is if the local DA's actually
filed charges against her. Arrests that don't lead to charges being
filed in court won't show up in any inter-state exchange of court cases.
And if the DA's office doesn't think they can prove BRD (Beyond a
Reasonable Doubt) they won't file.
anim8rfsk
Mar 30, 2023, 1:45:52 AM3/30/23
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California anymore.
Dimensional Traveler
Mar 30, 2023, 11:11:28 AM3/30/23
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up a large percentage of the cases I see in my county.
BTR1701
Mar 30, 2023, 12:20:19 PM3/30/23
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The Horny Goat
Mar 30, 2023, 5:15:49 PM3/30/23
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 08:11:25 -0700, Dimensional Traveler
<dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Will have to rely on BTR to tell us if drunk driving is even prosecuted in
>> California anymore.
>>
>It is. Usually it is a misdemeanor but yes it is prosecuted. They make
>up a large percentage of the cases I see in my county.
>
Drunk driving is considered a misdemeanor?
<dtr...@sonic.net> wrote:
>> Will have to rely on BTR to tell us if drunk driving is even prosecuted in
>> California anymore.
>>
>It is. Usually it is a misdemeanor but yes it is prosecuted. They make
>up a large percentage of the cases I see in my county.
>
In Canada it's treated as not much below manslaughter - though
Canada's problem is more with ridiculously light sentencing than
charging.
Dimensional Traveler
Mar 30, 2023, 6:55:12 PM3/30/23
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depending on how drunk as measured by BAC, or where you are caught doing
it or, or, or,.... If you actually hit something or someone while
driving under the influence then felonies come in to play. Prosecutors
usually have a number of choices and options but most of the time it is
charged as a misdemeanor.
Rhino2
Mar 30, 2023, 8:54:31 PM3/30/23
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On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 2:14:58 AM UTC-4, anim8rfsk wrote:
> https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gwyneth-paltrow-trial-ski-collision-deer-valley-park-city-utah/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRMsU13DHNQ
Of course, it's always possible there will be a successful appeal by the plaintiff that will reverse the verdict so don't give up hope!
> https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/gwyneth-paltrow-trial-ski-collision-deer-valley-park-city-utah/
>
>
> --
> The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
And now it's over: the jury has unanimously found in Paltrow's favour. Condolences, anim, I know you were hoping she'd get the electric chair! ;-)
>
> --
> The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRMsU13DHNQ
Of course, it's always possible there will be a successful appeal by the plaintiff that will reverse the verdict so don't give up hope!
anim8rfsk
Mar 30, 2023, 11:50:03 PM3/30/23
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Cyril Motiti
Mar 31, 2023, 12:12:28 AM3/31/23
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