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Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 1:01:52 AM5/2/12
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My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

David Barnett

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May 2, 2012, 3:34:37 AM5/2/12
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In article <jnqf40$udp$5...@news.albasani.net>,
a...@chinet.com says...
>
> My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
> first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
> HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

I much prefer Hustle to Leverage.

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Micky DuPree

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May 2, 2012, 3:57:50 AM5/2/12
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David Barnett <dbar...@bigpond.net.au> writes:

> I much prefer Hustle to Leverage.

I like both, but I like _Hustle_ better. I'm also watching _The Rogues_
on MeTV, 4 AM ET Sunday mornings in some markets. It's an obvious 1960s
ancestor text to both, in which a family of charming con artists pulls
underhanded capers to serve a greater good. It stars Charles Boyer and
Gig Young. I think it was deceptive to claim that it also starred David
Niven, though. From what I've seen, Niven is in very few episodes, and
not for very long when he does appear.

-Micky

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 4:04:25 AM5/2/12
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In article <jnqf40$udp$5...@news.albasani.net>,
Jamie Murray ...

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So we're all agreed that Clod is as stupid as Charlie Sheen?

AC

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May 2, 2012, 5:31:01 AM5/2/12
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anim8rFSK wrote:
> In article<jnqf40$udp$5...@news.albasani.net>,
> "Adam H. Kerman"<a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>> first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>> HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
>
> Jamie Murray ...
>

Im a Brit and I never saw the early seasons of Hustle. So it blew my
little mind when she turned up for the finale. WTF was HG Wells doing in
bloody Hustle?????????

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EGK

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May 2, 2012, 9:12:18 AM5/2/12
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On Wed, 2 May 2012 05:01:52 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:

>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

I just recently finished watching all 8 seasons of Hustle. From reading
the net, a lot of people think it diminished in quality in the later
seasons. I didn't find that the case at all. The weakest season was
season 4 but then I thought it picked up nicely again and I was hooked
through the whole run. Enjoyed the hell out of it.

I think it's much better than Leverage which relies too much on the
cartoonish Hardison's super computer hacker and Elliot's practically
indestructible fighting prowess.

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 10:31:46 AM5/2/12
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In article <jnqpdu$i7t$1...@pcls6.std.com>,
Yeah, I've read that Niven is only in 3 or 4 of them, and I've never
seen one he's in at all. Apparently he co-owned the show or something
and I guess they stuck him in for publicity.

Patty Winter

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May 2, 2012, 1:09:48 PM5/2/12
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In article <jnqf40$udp$5...@news.albasani.net>,
Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
At least until HDNet goes away...

I wish I got it. I don't have any local stations airing the series,
and my library only has a few seasons' worth. (And no, I don't have
a Netflix account.)


Patty

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 1:50:05 PM5/2/12
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In article <4fa16a5c$0$16142$742e...@news.sonic.net>,
Netflix doesn't have Hustle.

Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 2:39:34 PM5/2/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

>Jamie Murray ...

She isn't in the main cast any longer in later series, having been replaced
with a blonde, gah.

I'm not watching them in order. Are the replacement blonde and the new guy
brother and sister?

EGK

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May 2, 2012, 2:43:33 PM5/2/12
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On Wed, 2 May 2012 18:39:34 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
Yes, they're brother and sister and were introduced in the first episode of
series (season) 5. I thought that was a great episode that introduced them
too.

Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 2:43:54 PM5/2/12
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Say, does anyone know: Were Hustle later series produced in 16:9 then
upconverted to HD? Or did they actually use HD cameras?

Or am I seeing cropped crap?

Ever since these handful of HD only satellite channels appeared, they've
worked a syndication scam in which distributors sold HD rights separately
from SD rights, pulling stunts like showing Northern Exposure in HD. From
what I can tell, a lot of the older shows were never framed to be cropped
to 16:9 anyway.

I wish they'd leave the bloody aspect ratios alone.

EGK

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May 2, 2012, 2:56:08 PM5/2/12
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On Wed, 2 May 2012 18:43:54 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:

>Say, does anyone know: Were Hustle later series produced in 16:9 then
>upconverted to HD? Or did they actually use HD cameras?
>
>Or am I seeing cropped crap?

I don't know if its true and can't find it now but I read somewhere that
Hustle switched to video tape in later seasons. Probably to save money.
I thought I read it on IMDB.

SoHillsGuy

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May 2, 2012, 2:57:58 PM5/2/12
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> >Jamie Murray ...
>
> She isn't in the main cast any longer in later series, having been replaced
> with a blonde, gah.
>
> I'm not watching them in order. Are the replacement blonde and the new guy
> brother and sister?

Yes, the 'new' characters are brother and sister.

I'm fairly sure Jaime Murray's decision to leave the series was hers, as she came to America to seek TV work. She's been a regular or recurring in a handful of American series since leaving the UK, including "Dexter" and "Ringer."

EGK

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May 2, 2012, 3:06:34 PM5/2/12
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On Wed, 2 May 2012 11:57:58 -0700 (PDT), SoHillsGuy <jerr...@verizon.net>
wrote:
Yup. I think her season on Dexter coincided with her leaving Hustle. I
like her quite a bit but her stint on this season's Ringer shows she's not
having the best of luck finding good roles. Her character on that show
didnt amount to much at all.

Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 3:20:05 PM5/2/12
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SoHillsGuy <jerr...@verizon.net> wrote:

>I'm fairly sure Jaime Murray's decision to leave the series was hers, as
>she came to America to seek TV work. She's been a regular or recurring
>in a handful of American series since leaving the UK, including "Dexter"
>and "Ringer."

It's too bad Valentine was watched by nearly no one. That show was built
for her, and was reasonable entertaining even though I didn't care for
the whole cast. Despite not being in her early 20's, she proved she could
still wear a bikini, yay.

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 4:21:14 PM5/2/12
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In article <7113q71eenh8ngdcm...@4ax.com>,
She just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.

EGK

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May 2, 2012, 4:42:52 PM5/2/12
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I just looked that up on IMDB and there is next to nothing about it. What
is it? Oh, wait. Nevermind. Jaime Murray and Julie Benz. I'm so there
for that. :D

Duggy

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May 2, 2012, 5:15:36 PM5/2/12
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On May 2, 5:34 pm, David Barnett <dbar3...@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
> In article <jnqf40$ud...@news.albasani.net>,
> a...@chinet.com says...
>
>
>
> > My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
> > first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
> > HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
>
> I much prefer Hustle to Leverage.

I own every episode of Hustle on DVD (apart from the final series
which isn't available here yet) some one gave me copies of Leverage to
watch and I only managed a couple of episodes before giving up.

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Duggy

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May 2, 2012, 5:17:28 PM5/2/12
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On May 3, 4:39 am, "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> I'm not watching them in order. Are the replacement blonde and the new guy
> brother and sister?

Yes. Of course, that blows their introduction episode, but then it
was pretty obvious anyway.

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Duggy

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May 2, 2012, 5:19:42 PM5/2/12
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On May 3, 6:42 am, EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 May 2012 13:21:14 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> >She just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.

> I just looked that up on IMDB and there is next to nothing about it.  What
> is it?  Oh, wait.  Nevermind.  Jaime Murray and Julie Benz.  I'm so there
> for that.  :D

All I know about it is posts here about casting for the pilot. That
about all there is to know.

Except that the network doesn't think Julie Benz is beautiful.

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Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 5:20:46 PM5/2/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>[Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.

Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was decent
on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other characters.

Jamie Murray improved a great many truly sucky Warehouse 13 scripts.

Duggy

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May 2, 2012, 5:21:54 PM5/2/12
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On May 2, 11:12 pm, EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> I just recently finished watching all 8 seasons of Hustle.   From reading
> the net, a lot of people think it diminished in quality in the later
> seasons.  I didn't find that the case at all.   The weakest season was
> season 4 but then I thought it picked up nicely again and I was hooked
> through the whole run.   Enjoyed the hell out of it.

I don't think it diminished (although I never liked any of the
replacements as much) I just think they were covering pretty much the
same ground over and over. Even their episodes which tried to be
different felt familiar. Then again, I still enjoyed it.

> I think it's much better than Leverage which relies too much on the
> cartoonish Hardison's super computer hacker and Elliot's practically
> indestructible fighting prowess.

Agreed.

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Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 5:27:30 PM5/2/12
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EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

>I just recently finished watching all 8 seasons of Hustle. From reading
>the net, a lot of people think it diminished in quality in the later
>seasons. I didn't find that the case at all. The weakest season was
>season 4 but then I thought it picked up nicely again and I was hooked
>through the whole run. Enjoyed the hell out of it.

Ah. I've seen Series 4, so my PBS station was repreating the first four
series. Adrian Lester was sorely missed; Marc Warren's character did not
have the intelligence to replace him, and utterly lacked charm. However,
I liked the new kid. I take it he never comes back.

EGK

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May 2, 2012, 5:35:48 PM5/2/12
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On Wed, 2 May 2012 21:27:30 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
The kid, Billy Bond, was written out and is never even mentioned again after
Season 4. Murray and Marc Warren both left the show and were replaced by
Kelly Adams and Matt Di Angelo, the brother and sister. I think a lot of
people disliked them just because they missed the other two but I got to
like them quite a bit.

Duggy

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May 2, 2012, 5:26:04 PM5/2/12
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Wikipedia says:

Picture format 16:9 576i (Series 1-8)
1080i (HD) (Series 4–8)

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Mason Barge

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May 2, 2012, 6:14:49 PM5/2/12
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On Wed, 2 May 2012 18:43:54 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:
Yeah, I agree 100%. Now that the storm has calmed down a little bit and
everybody has given in to "widescreen", I'm starting to see BluRays of
movies that are letterboxed top and bottom! It really gripes me.

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 6:18:21 PM5/2/12
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In article <jns8s2$lg7$3...@news.albasani.net>,
Warren is a major misfire in anything I've seen him in. Dracula?
Really?

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 6:19:56 PM5/2/12
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In article <jns8fe$lg7$2...@news.albasani.net>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >[Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.
>
> Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was decent
> on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other characters.

I would agree, and I'm somewhat mystified as to why DEFIANCE keeps
mentioning Benz as a big deal and Murray as an afterthought; are there
really that many Buffy fans out there still?
>
> Jamie Murray improved a great many truly sucky Warehouse 13 scripts.

And upgraded a splendid Spartacus nude romp.

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 6:20:28 PM5/2/12
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In article <c173q7lmkujm8oveh...@4ax.com>,
Hee hee, yeah, I've only read about it on RAT.

EGK

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May 2, 2012, 6:26:16 PM5/2/12
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Have you seen the UK show, Mad Dogs? I liked that. He plays a much more
realistic character.

Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 6:31:58 PM5/2/12
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Are these 2.35:1 or wider? Yeah, you want the letterboxing. 1.85:1 is
close enough to 16:9 that there should be no letterboxing.

~consul

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May 2, 2012, 8:06:33 PM5/2/12
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'tis on this 5/1/2012 10:01 PM, wrote Adam H. Kerman thus to say:
> My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
> first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
> HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

My Los Angeles one is doing season 4, with the brother & sister.
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"... respect, all good works are not done by only good folk. For here, at the end of all things, we shall do what needs to be done."
--till next time, consul -x- <<poetry.dolphins-cove.com>>

Adam H. Kerman

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May 2, 2012, 8:21:45 PM5/2/12
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~consul <con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com> wrote:
>'tis on this 5/1/2012 10:01 PM, wrote Adam H. Kerman thus to say:

>>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

>My Los Angeles one is doing season 4, with the brother & sister.

No, that's series 5. In Series 4, Adrian Lester was absent and Mark Warren
led them.

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 10:08:46 PM5/2/12
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In article <g3d3q7p6blti928qu...@4ax.com>,
Nope, I think all I've seen him in was Hu$tle and Dracula.

anim8rFSK

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May 2, 2012, 10:09:25 PM5/2/12
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In article <ibc3q7lbm1a04ltth...@4ax.com>,
What? Please tell me that was sarcasm?

~consul

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May 3, 2012, 3:43:42 PM5/3/12
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'tis on this 5/2/2012 5:21 PM, wrote Adam H. Kerman thus to say:
> ~consul<con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com> wrote:
>> 'tis on this 5/1/2012 10:01 PM, wrote Adam H. Kerman thus to say:
>>> My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>>> first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>>> HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
>> My Los Angeles one is doing season 4, with the brother& sister.
> No, that's series 5. In Series 4, Adrian Lester was absent and Mark Warren
> led them.

Oh, right. I think they work out pretty well, even the musical one was good.

Duggy

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May 3, 2012, 4:50:44 PM5/3/12
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On May 3, 8:19 am, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <jns8fe$lg...@news.albasani.net>,
>  "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> > anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > >[Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.
> > Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was decent
> > on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other characters.
> I would agree, and I'm somewhat mystified as to why DEFIANCE keeps
> mentioning Benz as a big deal and Murray as an afterthought; are there
> really that many Buffy fans out there still?

Benz seems to be playing a more important character on the show.

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Duggy

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May 3, 2012, 4:51:58 PM5/3/12
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On May 3, 12:08 pm, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <g3d3q7p6blti928quf0ejsbnj5t5jm6...@4ax.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > On Wed, 02 May 2012 15:18:21 -0700, anim8rFSK <anim8r...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> > >In article <jns8s2$lg...@news.albasani.net>,
> > > "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> > >> EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> > >> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
> > >> >>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
> > >> >>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
> > >> >>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
>
> > >> >I just recently finished watching all 8 seasons of Hustle.   From reading
> > >> >the net, a lot of people think it diminished in quality in the later
> > >> >seasons.  I didn't find that the case at all.   The weakest season was
> > >> >season 4 but then I thought it picked up nicely again and I was hooked
> > >> >through the whole run.   Enjoyed the hell out of it.
>
> > >> Ah. I've seen Series 4, so my PBS station was repreating the first four
> > >> series. Adrian Lester was sorely missed; Marc Warren's character did not
> > >> have the intelligence to replace him, and utterly lacked charm. However,
> > >> I liked the new kid. I take it he never comes back.
>
> > >Warren is a major misfire in anything I've seen him in.  Dracula?
> > >Really?
>
> > Have you seen the UK show, Mad Dogs?  I liked that.  He plays a much more
> > realistic character.
>
> Nope, I think all I've seen him in was Hu$tle and Dracula.

Did you see his Doctor Who episode?

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Duggy

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May 3, 2012, 4:46:12 PM5/3/12
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On May 4, 5:43 am, ~consul <con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com> wrote:
> 'tis on this 5/2/2012 5:21 PM, wrote Adam H. Kerman thus to say:
>
> > ~consul<con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com>  wrote:
> >> 'tis on this 5/1/2012 10:01 PM, wrote Adam H. Kerman thus to say:
> >>> My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
> >>> first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
> >>> HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
> >> My Los Angeles one is doing season 4, with the brother&  sister.
> > No, that's series 5. In Series 4, Adrian Lester was absent and Mark Warren
> > led them.
>
> Oh, right. I think they work out pretty well, even the musical one was good.

There wasn't a musical one. There was one with a Bollywood number in
the middle. Then again, there was one with a Hollywood dance number
in series 1.

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shawn

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May 3, 2012, 5:18:05 PM5/3/12
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Also Benz has had the longer career and is probably better known in
the USA. Murray is great but she's mostly been a guest actor in the
USA until the last few years.

~consul

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May 3, 2012, 6:02:12 PM5/3/12
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Yeah, there is the Bollywood one, and then there was the Kyle Mignoe one with the new girl.

Micky DuPree

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May 15, 2012, 3:34:20 AM5/15/12
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"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:

> anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>> [Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.
>
> Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was
> decent on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other
> characters.

I thought Benz was decent on _Angel_, too. The characters aren't that
similar.

-Micky

Duggy

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May 15, 2012, 3:50:14 AM5/15/12
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Which was probably why Benz was cast as a central character.

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Duggy

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May 15, 2012, 3:50:50 AM5/15/12
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On May 4, 8:02 am, ~consul <con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com> wrote:
> 'tis on this 5/3/2012 1:46 PM, wrote Duggy thus to say:
>
> > On May 4, 5:43 am, ~consul<con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com>  wrote:
> >> 'tis on this 5/2/2012 5:21 PM, wrote Adam H. Kerman thus to say:
> >>> ~consul<con...@dolphinsTAKEAWAY-cove.com>    wrote:
> >>> No, that's series 5. In Series 4, Adrian Lester was absent and Mark Warren
> >>> led them.
> >> Oh, right. I think they work out pretty well, even the musical one was good.
> > There wasn't a musical one.  There was one with a Bollywood number in
> > the middle.  Then again, there was one with a Hollywood dance number
> > in series 1.
>
> Yeah, there is the Bollywood one, and then there was the Kyle Mignoe one with the new girl.

Final season?

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Adam H. Kerman

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May 15, 2012, 4:13:00 AM5/15/12
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They aren't similar at all. On Dexter, she was playing something of a
Carol Lynley type, at least till Dex got rid of her ex. On Angel,
she ate quite a few people.

EGK

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May 15, 2012, 10:08:38 AM5/15/12
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On Tue, 15 May 2012 08:13:00 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:
Yup. Angel literally gave her a much better role to sink her teeth in to.

anim8rFSK

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May 15, 2012, 10:42:55 AM5/15/12
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In article <jot36c$l1s$1...@news.albasani.net>,
"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> Micky DuPree <MDu...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
> >"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:
> >>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>>[Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.
>
> >>Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was
> >>decent on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other
> >>characters.
>
> >I thought Benz was decent on _Angel_, too. The characters aren't that
> >similar.
>
> They aren't similar at all. On Dexter, she was playing something of a
> Carol Lynley type,

Ooo, interesting observation.

at least till Dex got rid of her ex. On Angel,
> she ate quite a few people.

Adam H. Kerman

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May 15, 2012, 2:21:49 PM5/15/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Micky DuPree <MDu...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:
>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>>>[Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.

>>>>Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was
>>>>decent on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other
>>>>characters.

>>>I thought Benz was decent on _Angel_, too. The characters aren't that
>>>similar.

>>They aren't similar at all. On Dexter, she was playing something of a
>>Carol Lynley type,

>Ooo, interesting observation.

Hah! Someone gets my Carol Lynley references. She's somewhat obscure. Good
actress who got typecast early, not much of a career. A friend once showed
me a cheesecake picture of her she'd given him when she was trying to
publicize herself. He was a movie reviewer for a weekly paper and had a
chance to interview her.

anim8rFSK

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In article <jou6rt$44j$3...@news.albasani.net>,
I tweeted your observation to Ms. Benz earlier today, we'll see what she
thinks. :)

Adam H. Kerman

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May 16, 2012, 12:18:22 AM5/16/12
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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Micky DuPree <MDu...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:
>>>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>[Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.

>>>>>>Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was
>>>>>>decent on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other
>>>>>>characters.

>>>>>I thought Benz was decent on _Angel_, too. The characters aren't that
>>>>>similar.

>>>>They aren't similar at all. On Dexter, she was playing something of a
>>>>Carol Lynley type,

>>>Ooo, interesting observation.

>>Hah! Someone gets my Carol Lynley references. She's somewhat obscure. Good
>>actress who got typecast early, not much of a career. A friend once showed
>>me a cheesecake picture of her she'd given him when she was trying to
>>publicize herself. He was a movie reviewer for a weekly paper and had a
>>chance to interview her.

>I tweeted your observation to Ms. Benz earlier today, we'll see what she
>thinks. :)

Suddenly I'm very afraid...

Please tell her I'm going on an all-garlic diet.

anim8rFSK

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May 16, 2012, 12:19:45 PM5/16/12
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In article <jov9qe$t02$1...@news.albasani.net>,
LOL

Obveeus

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May 17, 2012, 5:16:49 PM5/17/12
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"anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> In article <jnqf40$udp$5...@news.albasani.net>,
> "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>> My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>> first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>> HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
>
> Jamie Murray ...

Heads up for Anim8r (and others): www.youtube.com/wigs

This Youtube original series features Jaime Murray prominently in the first
2 episodes (short). The plot here is 'what does Jaime Murray look like
right after having sex...let's photograph that'.

Warning: the lead actress in this 'show' is really bad and the effect is
that watching this feels like you are watching the setup scene in a porno.


anim8rFSK

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May 17, 2012, 8:34:26 PM5/17/12
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In article <jp3ps3$c08$1...@dont-email.me>, "Obveeus" <Obv...@aol.com>
wrote:

> "anim8rFSK" <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
> > In article <jnqf40$udp$5...@news.albasani.net>,
> > "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
> >> first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
> >> HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
> >
> > Jamie Murray ...
>
> Heads up for Anim8r (and others): www.youtube.com/wigs
>
> This Youtube original series features Jaime Murray prominently in the first
> 2 episodes (short). The plot here is 'what does Jaime Murray look like
> right after having sex...let's photograph that'.

Excellent! Can hardly wait for the prequel.
>
> Warning: the lead actress in this 'show' is really bad and the effect is
> that watching this feels like you are watching the setup scene in a porno.

LOL, there's that.

Adam H. Kerman

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anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:
>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>>>Micky DuPree <MDu...@theworld.com.snip.to.reply> wrote:
>>>>>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> writes:
>>>>>>anim8rFSK <anim...@cox.net> wrote:

>>>>>>>[Jamie Murray] just got DEFIANCE with her bestest friend, Julie Benz.

>>>>>>Julie Benz just doesn't have the acting chops of Jamie Murray. She was
>>>>>>decent on Dexter, but she lacks the range to play too many other
>>>>>>characters.

>>>>>I thought Benz was decent on _Angel_, too. The characters aren't that
>>>>>similar.

>>>>They aren't similar at all. On Dexter, she was playing something of a
>>>>Carol Lynley type,

>>>Ooo, interesting observation.

>>Hah! Someone gets my Carol Lynley references. She's somewhat obscure. Good
>>actress who got typecast early, not much of a career. A friend once showed
>>me a cheesecake picture of her she'd given him when she was trying to
>>publicize herself. He was a movie reviewer for a weekly paper and had a
>>chance to interview her.

>I tweeted your observation to Ms. Benz earlier today, we'll see what she
>thinks. :)

Since my neck is still intact, she must not have been too offended.
Did she ever get back to you?

Adam H. Kerman

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Jun 12, 2012, 3:24:21 AM6/12/12
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Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.

I caught up on the Series 5 episodes, so I got to see the brother and
sister introduced. In a classy touch, they were not credited as main
cast in the opening titles of that episode so as not to spoil the plot
for the audience.

I've seen all episodes through Series 7 now. Series 7 ends with
The Delivery. Albie gets a shock: an adult daughter Claire Goose (Mel
from Waking the Dead). His wife left him when she learned she was
pregnant and didn't expect Albie would be much of a family man.

Robert Vaughn gets to show a bit of emotion.

I think my favorite episode was from Series 6, "Conned Out of Luck",
in which Mickey falls for a scam, bad mojo for any grifter. It's absolutely
hysterical when wonderful things keep happening to Eddie whilst Mickey
is miserable. For a change of pace, Robert Glenister attempts to run the
con but really can't do much without Mickey's ideas.

I don't miss Marc Warren even a little bit, but I do miss Jaime Murray.
As others noted, the brother and sister grow on you. The writers were
wise by giving the new characters distinct personalities from the characters
written out.

Interestingly, I don't see how Robert Glenister could have been replaced.
He's The Fixer character, a superior character actor and far more interesting
than Hardison on Leverage. In any con on tv or the movies, The Fixer is
the character creating miracles, and it would have been difficult to
accept another actor in that spot if Glenister ever left. Glenister helped
with the suspension of disbelief.

He's the older brother of Philip Glenister, Gene Hunt on Life On Mars
and Ashes to Ashes.

If Robert Vaughn had left, I don't think he could have been replaced,
but I wonder what they would have done for a roper.

One more series to go. I'll be sad when I've seen them all.

EGK

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Jun 12, 2012, 9:43:14 AM6/12/12
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On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:24:21 +0000 (UTC), "Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com>
wrote:

>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>
>>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool.
>
>I caught up on the Series 5 episodes, so I got to see the brother and
>sister introduced. In a classy touch, they were not credited as main
>cast in the opening titles of that episode so as not to spoil the plot
>for the audience.
>
>I've seen all episodes through Series 7 now. Series 7 ends with
>The Delivery. Albie gets a shock: an adult daughter Claire Goose (Mel
>from Waking the Dead). His wife left him when she learned she was
>pregnant and didn't expect Albie would be much of a family man.
>
>Robert Vaughn gets to show a bit of emotion.
>
>I think my favorite episode was from Series 6, "Conned Out of Luck",
>in which Mickey falls for a scam, bad mojo for any grifter. It's absolutely
>hysterical when wonderful things keep happening to Eddie whilst Mickey
>is miserable. For a change of pace, Robert Glenister attempts to run the
>con but really can't do much without Mickey's ideas.
>
>I don't miss Marc Warren even a little bit, but I do miss Jaime Murray.
>As others noted, the brother and sister grow on you. The writers were
>wise by giving the new characters distinct personalities from the characters
>written out.

I liked the series a whole lot. On IMDB a lot of people seemed to have not
liked Emma and Sean, the brother and sister. I would guess it was more
about missing the others though. Season 4 where Marc Warren's character
leads the cons was by far the weakest of the series, in my opinion. As
much as I like Jaime Murray, she didn't have nearly as much to do in Hustle
as Kelly Adams' Emma. I read somewhere that Hustle was Jaime Murray's big
break and she was extremely nervous in season 1.


>One more series to go. I'll be sad when I've seen them all.

I was sad when I got to the end. I like Leverage ok but that US version
can't hold a candle to this one. I don't find it nearly as witty or the
cons as ingenious as Hustle. Leverage relies more on ridiculous computer
technology and comic book scenes of Elliot beating everyone up.

Dano

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Jun 12, 2012, 11:36:45 AM6/12/12
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"EGK" wrote in message news:9ahet7lm671rrrnst...@4ax.com...
=========================================

I like 'em both. But both are a bit flawed as far as being believable.
That's okay. I think of them each being more character driven. One "trick"
that annoys me sometimes about both is keeping the audience totally in the
dark about some part of the strategy and suddenly revealing it at the end to
bail them out of what looks like a sure "loss". But if you can't go in with
an attitude of suspended disbelief...you won't like either IMO.

Adam H. Kerman

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EGK <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:
>>Adam H. Kerman <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

>>>My local PBS station had been repeating and repeating and repeating the
>>>first three Hustle series. I just noticed that later series are on
>>>HDNet. I can finally see the rest of the series, cool. . . .

>>One more series to go. I'll be sad when I've seen them all.

>I was sad when I got to the end. I like Leverage ok but that US version
>can't hold a candle to this one. I don't find it nearly as witty or the
>cons as ingenious as Hustle. Leverage relies more on ridiculous computer
>technology and comic book scenes of Elliot beating everyone up.

Just watched the first episode of series 8, "Gold Finger". I didn't
care for the con at all and the mark's behavior didn't make a whole lot
of sense. Way, way, way too many coincidences, even for this show, such
as Ash finding property near an Army armoured division training ground
that tends to wander off base at that location. Then at the end of the
episode, the mark is clever enough to track them down to Eddie's bar
but still sees them in character and tells them exaactly how to resolve
the situation so he doesn't have them killed. That was wholly unnecessary.

The story they told the mark? Uh, that was Three Kings. The mark certainly
would be familiar with that movie.

I did like Albert returning money to one of the widows defrauded by
the mark. Albert didn't offer to find other defrauded widows to return
their money.

The fun part of the episode was Eddie throwing the team out of the bar
for defacing a photo of his old football hero. Sean tricks Ash into
recording an apology and kow towing to Eddie's football team rather than
his own beloved team. Ash doesn't realize he's been tricked. Actually,
Albert, Mickey, and Sean had defaced the photo.

Adam H. Kerman

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Jun 26, 2012, 5:44:29 AM6/26/12
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I liked Series 8, Episode 2, better, about the rivals trying to acquire a
Picasso, which has been forged several times.

HDNet rebrands itself AXS (access) TV on Monday, July 2. There's no
series 8 episode of Hustle scheduled at 10 pm ET Monday. I sure hope
it's just because of the rebranding and Independence Day holiday during
the week and that it returns the following week.

They're still doing repeats of earlier seasons at various times. The Web
site doesn't have much in the way of an advance schedule available.
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