Rachel Berry's Two Dads (Glee)

Volfie999

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Feb 20, 2012, 4:52:42 PM2/20/12

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First of all, I like Jeff Goldblum and the other guy as her two dads.
But it raises a question I've had since the pilot episode maybe.

In the first episode where we see Rachel narrated about her two gay
dads, she has a photo of them in her locker. Obviously, it wasn't
jeff goldblum and the other guy, but it seemed to me that in that
photo, one of them was white and one black. And the white was fairly
blonde.

I thought there was a joke I was missing, but I was never sure which
joke: That Rachel didn't know which of her dads was her biological
father, in spite of one of them being caucasian and one of them being
black; and the other was the white was was fairly pale, and Rachel/Lea
Michelle is dark-featured, and thus a combination of a white and black
dad (so to speak.)

Did anyone else notice this in the pilot??

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 20, 2012, 5:47:09 PM2/20/12

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That was the joke, sure. I didn't recall that it was in the pilot. Uh,
no, she's not supposed to be mixed race, but the whitest girl you know.

Arthur Lipscomb

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Feb 20, 2012, 7:24:28 PM2/20/12

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On 2/20/2012 2:47 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Volfie999<mooseb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> First of all, I like Jeff Goldblum and the other guy as her two dads.
>> But it raises a question I've had since the pilot episode maybe.
>
>> In the first episode where we see Rachel narrated about her two gay
>> dads, she has a photo of them in her locker. Obviously, it wasn't
>> jeff goldblum and the other guy, but it seemed to me that in that
>> photo, one of them was white and one black. And the white was fairly
>> blonde.
>
>> I thought there was a joke I was missing, but I was never sure which
>> joke: That Rachel didn't know which of her dads was her biological
>> father, in spite of one of them being caucasian and one of them being
>> black; and the other was the white was was fairly pale, and Rachel/Lea
>> Michelle is dark-featured, and thus a combination of a white and black
>> dad (so to speak.)
>
>> Did anyone else notice this in the pilot??

Yes.

>
> That was the joke, sure. I didn't recall that it was in the pilot. Uh,
> no, she's not supposed to be mixed race, but the whitest girl you know.

I don't have a problem with them using different actors but one of the
two *should* have been black.

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 20, 2012, 7:28:35 PM2/20/12

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What, you expect the casting director to watch the show?

Rob Jensen

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:00:06 PM2/20/12

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Brian Stokes MItchell, who plays Leroy, the dad who is not Jeff
Goldblum, is black.

-- Rob

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 20, 2012, 8:09:02 PM2/20/12

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I guess somebody thinks he is; he's played Coalhouse Walker.

IMDb sez his ancestry is German, Scottish, African, and Native American,
and his father was a Tuskegee airman. One of his quotes is that no one
knew how to cast him because he looks so different.

Rachel's gag is ruined. She could be this guy's biological daughter.

Rob Jensen

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:30:59 AM2/22/12

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He looks black to me. What, do you think that all blacks have to look
like they come from Somalia or something?

-- Rob

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 22, 2012, 12:41:30 AM2/22/12

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He might have had a darker complexion than Lea Michelle. The point was
to preserve the gag.

Obveeus

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Feb 22, 2012, 9:29:38 AM2/22/12

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Several of us were commenting a couple weeks ago that he looked black to
us...at least enough so that there was no 'retcon' beyond the picture.

> He might have had a darker complexion than Lea Michelle. The point was
> to preserve the gag.

Modern Family dispelled that joke this past week.

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 22, 2012, 1:19:03 PM2/22/12

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I don't watch that show. What was the gag?

Obveeus

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Feb 22, 2012, 4:11:09 PM2/22/12

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"Adam H. Kerman" <a...@chinet.com> wrote:

> Obveeus <Obv...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>>Modern Family dispelled that joke this past week.
>
> I don't watch that show. What was the gag?

Two gay guys used 'the swirl method' to combine their sperm and have a
surrogate mother carry a child to term for them. The idea of the 'swirl
method' was that neither man would know which one was the biological father
(same sort of setup as on GLEE). Needless to say, the two men were
different colors (one white, one brown) and it was instantly clear* by
looking at the child which one was the biological father.

*NOTE: of course, not knowing the ethnic background of the mother, the
viewer has to assume that her contribution would not effect the outcome.

Stephen Newport

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Feb 22, 2012, 5:42:49 PM2/22/12

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Brian Stokes MItchell, who plays Leroy, the dad who is not Jeff

Goldblum, is black. He's played Coalhouse Walker.
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Remysun

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Feb 23, 2012, 1:03:52 AM2/23/12

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Yeah, I had my kvetch, but they also retconned details about her
mother, saying she was a surrogate, and this year, getting some
teenage mother bonding with Quinn, which makes it more likely that she
would have been to young to enter into a surrogate arrangement.

Adam H. Kerman

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Feb 23, 2012, 2:25:51 AM2/23/12

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Rachel is a doppelganger.

Remysun

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Feb 23, 2012, 4:15:26 AM2/23/12

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On Feb 22, 4:11 pm, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:

> *NOTE: of course, not knowing the ethnic background of the mother, the
> viewer has to assume that her contribution would not effect the outcome.

Well, Indina Menzel + Taye Diggs = ???

Stephen Newport

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Feb 23, 2012, 8:52:10 AM2/23/12

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From: remys...@yahoo.com (Remysun) Indina Menzel + Taye Diggs =
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SN: An ego the size of California! BTW Taye's real first name is Scott.

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Duggy

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Feb 23, 2012, 3:17:55 PM2/23/12

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On Feb 23, 7:11 am, "Obveeus" <Obve...@aol.com> wrote:
> Two gay guys used 'the swirl method' to combine their sperm and have a
> surrogate mother carry a child to term for them. The idea of the 'swirl
> method' was that neither man would know which one was the biological father
> (same sort of setup as on GLEE). Needless to say, the two men were
> different colors (one white, one brown) and it was instantly clear* by
> looking at the child which one was the biological father.

Ah, so the same joke they used on the second season of Arrested
Development.

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