What drives you guys crazy?
When characters don't wash their hands in a food preparation scene.
There's one in a 'Frasier' episode where the brothers are forming
hamburger patties for the dad's new grill. You'd think
cleanliness-conscious Niles would wash his hands both before and after
handling the meat, but he never once goes near the sink. Gives me the
heebie-jeebies.
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When characters are watching the news on television, and the reporter is
talking about them or their situation, and they turn the TV off in the
middle of the report. If something that I was involved in was being
reported on the news, I think I would watch the whole report, and then go
to every other channel to see how they reported it.
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New York, NY
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Macbeth, Act 5 Scene 5
Good question.
How about eating ice cream out of the container.
Never getting change when they buy something.
Extras who don't talk (because that way they can pay them less)
Every other line is a clever witty putdown.
15 year olds saying things that took a Harvard graduate 2 weeks to come up with.
Fake accents.
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> When characters are watching the news on television, and the reporter is
> talking about them or their situation, and they turn the TV off in the
> middle of the report. If something that I was involved in was being
> reported on the news, I think I would watch the whole report, and then go
> to every other channel to see how they reported it.
The variation on this that bugs me is when someone comes in to an office
or calls and tell the protagonist to turn on the news to watch something
related to them. Unless it's a major disaster that the entire newscast
is devoted to, the report would be over by the time this happened.
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I do.
The way that they pour just a tiny little bit of coffee into the cup all
the time.
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The thing that drives me totally crazy is when a character, say an
onconlogist, for example, gets into a discussion with another doctor about
cancer treatment, and the oncologist stands there, dumbfounded, asking
questions and looking confused about something to which s/he should already
know the answers.
Obviously, the point of the dialog is to relay information to the audience
about a topic with which they may be unfamiliar, but the character just comes
off looking stupid, in my opinion.
I'm more bothered by watching people handle supposedly full cups of
coffee that are both weightless and unsloshable.
No, and not usually.
I hate that too. Like in CSI or something when someone says some
technical term and then goes you know... and explains it. Obvoiusly
they are just explaining it for the home audience but I always think
it looks dumb because the other people in the room usually know
exactly what the term means. Thats one thing i liked about ER. When
they expained a term it worked because it was usually to a patient who
probably didnt know what it meant.
> I'm more bothered by watching people handle supposedly full cups of
> coffee that are both weightless and unsloshable.
And paper grocery sacks that are perfectly straight-sided and weight four
ounces.
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Well... there isn't much point in showing the fictional wedding unless
something dramatic or funny is going to happen. I wouldn't put the
figure nearly as high as 80% for collapsed weddings, though.
> 18 Aug 2003: Maureen Goldman <inksl...@FOGsunshine.net> wrote
>
> > I'm more bothered by watching people handle supposedly full cups of
> > coffee that are both weightless and unsloshable.
>
> And paper grocery sacks that are perfectly straight-sided and weight four
> ounces.
>
And there always seems to be a loaf of bread sticking out the top, just to
make sure we know there are groceries in there.
People in dramas or soaps who walk into a room and first
thing off are asked if they want a drink (of alcohol)--or
first thing they do is prepare on themselves. How many
people do this routinely? The best tho is how everyone has
sex with their clothes on! Conceivable for women in
"nighties", but c'mon guys, at least take off your pants
(off camera would be
ok!) :) ...tonyC
> The thing that drives me totally crazy is when a character, say an
> onconlogist, for example, gets into a discussion with another
> doctor about cancer treatment, and the oncologist stands there,
> dumbfounded, asking questions and looking confused about something
> to which s/he should already know the answers.
>
> Obviously, the point of the dialog is to relay information to the
> audience about a topic with which they may be unfamiliar, but the
> character just comes off looking stupid, in my opinion.
You must _love_ CSI...
Incidentally, in rec.arts.sf.written and related newsgroups there's a
name for a variation on that theme. It's called "As You Know, Bob..."
in honor of the archetypical bad-writing attempt to justify dialog in
which Character A tells Character B something that they both already
know perfectly well.
-- William December Starr <wds...@panix.com>
Which was sooo true of old 50s space operas, even great flix like
Forbidden Planet.
btw how come every space opera had to have a cook on board from
Brooklyn???
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1. When a person on television addresses, or refers to their aunt or
uncle, they always call them "Aunt _____" or "Uncle _______". How many
people actually do this in real life? I have always called my aunts and
uncles by their first names. And my neice and nephews... well, you
wouldn't want to know what names they call me!
Most people.
How about the ice bucket that always has brand new cubes in
it?
1. A character coming in to eat/drink, getting the item, and
immediately leaving after taking one bite/sip.
2. Traveling across town for a meeting that lasts 30 seconds.
Within my mother's large extended family, my cousins and I used the
whole thing for the aunts and uncles. In speaking to them, Aunt Mary
was "Aunt Mary", Uncle Norman "Uncle Norman", and so on. In speaking
of them as we became older, aunt and uncle might be dropped if they
were being discussed at length. The labelling didn't extend to any
other family area.
Really? Do they do it beyond the age of 12?
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A similar thing that drives me crazy, and it happens all the time on cop
shows like Law and Order: The detectives report on their case to their
captain, and he/she gives them instructions on what to do next. "Canvas
that neighborhood and see if you can find someone who saw the crime,"
and "Go talk to the widow."
If the detectives need to be told what to do next in a routine
investigation, they should be thrown off the force!
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> What drives you guys crazy?
Women in trouble who scream, cower and plead instead of doing something
constructive. Even in the dark ages I doubt most women reacted that way.
> >From: "Jorabi" jor...@pobox.com
> >"Tony Calguire" wrote ...
> >>
> >> 1. When a person on television addresses, or refers to their aunt or
> >> uncle, they always call them "Aunt _____" or "Uncle _______". How many
> >> people actually do this in real life?
> >
> >Most people.
>
> Really? Do they do it beyond the age of 12?
Sure. They didn't stop being your aunt or your uncle.
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That drives me crazy, too. Especially when I consider that the scene is
probably written by a man who is turned on by a woman's helplessness.
A similar thing that makes me want to scream, cower, and plead for it to
stop: Scenes in disaster movies of couples running away from whatever,
with the man holding the woman's hand, dragging her along, and shouting
"RUN!!!" every 15 seconds. Case in point: "Twister."
> Really? Do they do it beyond the age of 12?
If they're respectful they do. If I didn't address my aunts and uncles
by the honorific my mother would have something to say about my
manners.
Heck, I still call all my aunts "Auntie ______" "Aunt" sounds too
stuffy.
>> Women in trouble who scream, cower and plead instead of doing
>> something constructive. Even in the dark ages I doubt most women
>> reacted that way.
>
> That drives me crazy, too. Especially when I consider that the
> scene is probably written by a man who is turned on by a woman's
> helplessness.
More likely the writer's just being lazy and using a ancient and
hoary stereotype rather than coming up with something vaguely new.
Side note: it seemed to me that there was some weirdness going on
on "Beauty and the Beast" regarding Catherine's (Linda Hamilton)
fighting ability. Sometimes it seemed like she operated under a
strict "N-Minus-One" rule -- she could defeat in combat exactly one
fewer thugs than were attacking her. If she was up against five men
she'd fight like James Bond and wipe out four of them and then get
clobbered by the fifth (and have to be rescued by Vincent), whereas
if only one man was attacking her she'd suddenly become helpless (and
have to be rescued by Vincent).
Diagnosis Murder .Thank God it got cancelled on CBS.This show
was the epitomy of everything that could be wrong with a tv show
or movie.It was so stupid,it was laughable.How the hell did it
manage to stay on so long?
Plenty do. Plenty of men do it too. And sometimes cowering and
pleading is a very constructive thing to do.
<<
>1. When a person on television addresses, or refers to their aunt or
>uncle, they always call them "Aunt _____" or "Uncle _______". How many
>people actually do this in real life? I have always called my aunts and
>uncles by their first names.
>
>>
There are quite a few that still do it IRL. A cousin of mine, though she's
about 6 or 7 years older than me, still calls my parents "Aunt X" and "Uncle
Y"...(names withheld to protect the guilty, of course...)
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There can be a big step between having feelings for someone and love
for someone. Love is a strong word to me, although some people seem to
throw it around much more freely. I've had feelings for people that
weren't strong enough or well-developed enough that I would have said
I loved them. There's also some difference to me between saying "I
love you" and "I'm in love with you", although I may be one of the few
that makes that distinction.
In any case, I don't see it as a fear of using the L-word necessarily
(although it could be), but as choosing different words to convey a
different nuance or intensity.
Jeff
> >fru1...@hotmail.com (fruitbat) wrote:
>There can be a big step between having feelings for someone and love
>for someone. Love is a strong word to me, although some people seem to
>throw it around much more freely. I've had feelings for people that
>weren't strong enough or well-developed enough that I would have said
>I loved them. There's also some difference to me between saying "I
>love you" and "I'm in love with you", although I may be one of the few
>that makes that distinction.
>In any case, I don't see it as a fear of using the L-word necessarily
>(although it could be), but as choosing different words to convey a
>different nuance or intensity.
Often on TV the phrase "I have feelings for you" indicates even more
intensity, a fear of stating love directly. My complaint, though, it
that in real life I have never, EVER heard anyone claim to have
feelings for someone, or to state that someone else has feelings for
another person. So it comes across as blatantly phony and writer-ish.
In real life it's usually something like she likes him, she kind of
likes him, she likes him a lot, she really likes him, she really likes
him a lot. These sentiments are more likely to be expressed in
elementary school style than as per a psychiatrist (oh, let me check
in my psche... yes, it appears that I have feelings for him).
However, I could just be out of the loop.
No, I agree with you on what it's been in the past in real life. But now
that "I have feelings for you" is constantly being said on TV, it will
make it into the vernacular.
I also think that the importance given to the phrase "I love you" has been
the product of TV and movies, starting long ago. I would add that to this
thread -- a character is tortured over saying those words or hearing them
from someone else. That part of a plot drives me crazy.
I also don't know what the difference between "I love you" and "I am in love
with you" is (or what the meaning of "is" is (kidding)).
Would you say to your mother/father/brother/sister etc. "I am in love
with you?"
> There are several things that drive me crazy when watching TV and
> movies. First, why does everybody take pills with no water? Who does
> this in real life? Also, when they leave a door open or bring in a prop like
> a purse or a coat or whatever and then forget to take it when they leave.
>
> What drives you guys crazy?
Off the top of my head, here are two things that I'm surprised haven't
been mentioned (unless I missed them):
1. In phony driving scenes, characters often spin the steering wheel
back and forth, similar to the manner in which a young child would
play with a toy. Sometimes, they actually stop momentarily, turn to
address another character, and then turn back and resume this
preposterous behavior. It's as though they've never even seen anyone
drive a car!
2. In one-way telephone conversations, characters rarely pause for a
remotely realistic length of time. (to allow the nonexistent party to
speak) When placing calls, they typically dial and immediately begin
talking. (leaving no time for anyone to answer)
Repetition of the nonexistent party's remarks (for the benefit of the
audience) is okay, as long as the responsible actor is either Bob
Newhart or Patricia Routledge. Most others probably shouldn't attempt
this.
Barry Margolin added:
> The variation on this that bugs me is when someone comes in to an office
> or calls and tell the protagonist to turn on the news to watch something
> related to them. Unless it's a major disaster that the entire newscast
> is devoted to, the report would be over by the time this happened.
Personally, I'm perturbed by the following:
The characters are watching something on television or listening to
something via radio. (an entertainment program, a news report, an
advertisement, etc.) The audio conveniently pauses (with no outside
intervention) just long enough for the insertion of perfectly timed
dialogue. (and often laughter, if it's a sitcom)
It also bothers me when the television/radio receiver suddenly goes
dead at the exact point at which it no longer is needed in the scene.
(In other words, the audio vanishes without anyone turning off or
muting the device.)
> >"Jorabi" <jor...@pobox.com> wrote:
>No, I agree with you on what it's been in the past in real life. But now
>that "I have feelings for you" is constantly being said on TV, it will
>make it into the vernacular.
I hope that "I have feelings for you" doesn't make its way into common
usage via TV, although that's certainly a major way that catchphrases
become popular.
>I also think that the importance given to the phrase "I love you" has been
>the product of TV and movies, starting long ago. I would add that to this
>thread -- a character is tortured over saying those words or hearing them
>from someone else. That part of a plot drives me crazy.
>I also don't know what the difference between "I love you" and "I am in love
>with you"
I take the second as problemsome for the speaker, to be followed by
"but I'll get over it" or "let me think for a while about how I got
into this emotional tangle".
> is (or what the meaning of "is" is (kidding)).
One cannot define love without first defining "define". Kind of takes
the bloom from the rose, that.
> Often on TV the phrase "I have feelings for you" indicates even more
> intensity, a fear of stating love directly. My complaint, though, it
> that in real life I have never, EVER heard anyone claim to have
> feelings for someone, or to state that someone else has feelings for
> another person. So it comes across as blatantly phony and writer-ish.
>
> In real life it's usually something like she likes him, she kind of
> likes him, she likes him a lot, she really likes him, she really likes
> him a lot. These sentiments are more likely to be expressed in
> elementary school style than as per a psychiatrist (oh, let me check
> in my psche... yes, it appears that I have feelings for him).
>
> However, I could just be out of the loop.
I am very aware of people using phrases like this & others to express
feelings that are somewhere between 'Hello' and 'I love you' or even
because they know it would be too early or premature on their part to
declare their love for someone else. Nothing phony about it to me.
Human, regular, ordinary.
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> I also don't know what the difference between "I love you" and "I am in love
> with you" is (or what the meaning of "is" is (kidding)).
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. In some instances it means I don't love
you romantically but instead I love you as a friend. In other
instances it means I used to have romantic love for you but now I only
have friendship love for you. (agape)
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> One cannot define love without first defining "define". Kind of takes
> the bloom from the rose, that.
??? Did I just miss something?
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This is way OT, but I felt like I should explain...
To me, when used seriously, "to be in love" is to be
infatuated/enamored, while "to love" is to deeply care for... The
former connotes a certain irrationality and perhaps newness (hence
when a couple says "we've been married 30 years and we're still in
love", it means that there's still a freshness to their feelings for
each other), while the latter implies a deeper bond.
I don't know why I make a distinction or where I got it from, but
that's just what they mean to me.
Jeff
> >Donna L. Bridges <shall...@rcn.com> wrote:
>??? Did I just miss something?
Nah, it's summer. Just idle chitchat.
>There are several things that drive me
>crazy when watching TV and movies.
>First, why does everybody take pills with
>no water? Who does this in real life? Also,
>when they leave a door open or bring in a
>prop like a purse or a coat or whatever
>and then forget to take it when they leave.
>What drives you guys crazy?
Plain pink pastry boxes from the bakery, in real life all the pastry
boxes I've ever seen are plain white, but on TV and in films they're
always pink.
..
Mr. Hole
I've seen pink pastry boxes, IYKWIM.
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> Plain pink pastry boxes from the bakery, in real life
> all the pastry boxes I've ever seen are plain white,
> but on TV and in films they're always pink.
White objects (particularly those with flat surfaces) tend to reflect
the bright overhead lights, creating glare and various camera-related
distortions. This is why late night talk show hosts typically use
blue index cards.
Maybe, its because I'm a tad shy, but up until now I've been too afraid
to tell you that I too have feelings for you, Maureen, and I've had
these feels for you for so very very long. Deep feelings, do you share
these feelings, can we share these feelings together?
..
Mr. Hole
As a result of reading this post, I too am having feelings. A sort of
queasy, cramping feeling in my stomach. A slight pounding in my head.
Is it possible to say, "I migraine you"?
I think I'm feeling something about this, something sorta positive,
but, not in a completely superlative way!
Or, maybe it's just something I ate.
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> >holef...@webtv.net (The Magically Delicious Mr. Hole) wrote:
>Maybe, its because I'm a tad shy, but up until now I've been too afraid
>to tell you that I too have feelings for you, Maureen, and I've had
>these feels for you for so very very long. Deep feelings, do you share
>these feelings, can we share these feelings together?
I ... I suspect we already do share those feelings. Or at least a
pixel or two worth..
>There are several things that drive me crazy when watching TV and movies.
>First, why does everybody take pills with no water? Who does this in real
>life? Also, when they leave a door open or bring in a prop like a purse or
>a coat or whatever and then forget to take it when they leave.
>
>What drives you guys crazy?
>
Gifts that have the lid giftwrapped separately from the rest of the
package. Obviously, it's so it can be opened easily and reclosed
without messing up the wrapping paper. But who really wraps gifts
this way? Nobody I know!
Lots of things like that are set up to make scenes move faster--especially
in TV--or to make things easier for the actors. One I like is where the
hero has to escape from handcuffs by getting his hands from the back to
the front, and the chain is two feet long.
I've always remembered a little bit in an old movie where some young girl
starts crying and Ethel Barrymore hands her a handkerchief. Barrymore
takes the folded handkerchief by the thumb and forefinger of each hand and
pulls and *presto*, it unfolds instantly. She had carefully planned
exactly how to hold it.
I do on rare occassions.. They look nicer that way. Yeah, it takes longer to do
that, but it's worth it for really special gifts. Or for so-so ones that you
want to make look better :)
--
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Unless it's a Christmas episode. Then it's snowing everywhere!
Brad
: "Kristy" wrote ...
: >
: > There are several things that drive me crazy when watching TV and movies.
: > First, why does everybody take pills with no water? Who does this in real
: > life? Also, when they leave a door open or bring in a prop like a purse or
: > a coat or whatever and then forget to take it when they leave.
: >
: > What drives you guys crazy?
: 1. A character coming in to eat/drink, getting the item, and
: immediately leaving after taking one bite/sip.
: 2. Traveling across town for a meeting that lasts 30 seconds.
On a simalar note, how about trips that SHOULD be long, but seem to be
over right away? I don't mean because they only show the beginning and
the end, I mean instances in which it's obvious that only a little time
has passed.
For example, on "General Hospital" it's well established that members of
the Cassidine family live in a house on an island in the middle of Port
Charles Harbor. In one scene, you'll see a character say something like,
"I have to go talk to Nicholas" and he leaves the scene. This is in a
scene immediatly following another scene showing Nicholas on the island.
After a commercial break we see a continuation of the Nicholas scene,
indicating that not much time has passed. But before the scene is over,
the other character walks in! He has gone to the dockyard, waited for the
boat, made the crossing to the island, walked up to the house and gone to
the room Nicholas is in, in just a few minutes!
And before you say anything, this stuff happens on shows other than the
daytime dramas too.
Brad
>There are several things that drive me crazy when watching TV and movies.
>First, why does everybody take pills with no water? Who does this in real
>life?
I know some people who do that, but yeah, it's fucked up.
>What drives you guys crazy?
People who open their door without looking out the peephole or even
asking who's there.
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>The variation on this that bugs me is when someone comes in to an office
>or calls and tell the protagonist to turn on the news to watch something
>related to them. Unless it's a major disaster that the entire newscast
>is devoted to, the report would be over by the time this happened.
It usually is, too. Well, just the part where the reporter repeats
the headline to the story.
>And there always seems to be a loaf of bread sticking out the top, just to
>make sure we know there are groceries in there.
Unless the stupid bagboy put the eggs at the bottom "so that they don't
leak all over everything if they break".
>1. When a person on television addresses, or refers to their aunt or
>uncle, they always call them "Aunt _____" or "Uncle _______". How many
>people actually do this in real life?
I do. It's called "respecting your elders".
>1. When a person on television addresses, or refers to their aunt or
>uncle, they always call them "Aunt _____" or "Uncle _______". How many
>people actually do this in real life? >>
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LOL, yeah. Buffy did that a lot. Ring, ring. "Quick, Giles, turn on the
news!" <<and now we repeat our story from the very beginning . .. >>
<< >And there always seems to be a loaf of bread sticking out the top, just to
>make sure we know there are groceries in there.
Unless the stupid bagboy put the eggs at the bottom "so that they don't
leak all over everything if they break". >>
Always buy the french bread or baguette that's longer than the grocery bag.
Guaranteed to stick out the top every time.
<< People who open their door without looking out the peephole or even
asking who's there. >>
In fairness, they mostly seem to do that in NYC, where it's apparently safe.
How come they alway only have one grocery bag? I've never come from the
store with just one bag.
Evan
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: How come they alway only have one grocery bag? I've never come from the
: store with just one bag.
Grocery bags in TV land are larger inside than they are here.
I was half way through the sentence before I realized you weren't going
for --
"grocery bags in TV land are larger inside than outside".
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> How come they alway only have one grocery bag? I've never come from the
> store with just one bag.
The character carrying the bag is usually single, and usually lives in New
York, where you don't drive to the store.
:>Grocery bags in TV land are larger inside than they are here.
: I was half way through the sentence before I realized you weren't going
: for --
: "grocery bags in TV land are larger inside than outside".
ANYONE can write that.
>
>>
If you're a D&D fan, you know that TV land bags are really Grocery Bags of
Holding...
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>> People who open their door without looking out the peephole or even
>>asking who's there.
>
>In fairness, they mostly seem to do that in NYC, where it's apparently safe.
Or a (female) teen babysitter, all alone.